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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 03:45:58 PM
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BEEF N CHEDDAR
WALKONTHEMOON
NORTHERN BLIZZARD
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A;LL 3 LOOKING REALLY NICE
ALL LOOKIN GOOD 3 WEEKS TILL QUALIFIERS tmbz1
GOOD LUCK TO AM
AND THE STABLE @CA tmbz1
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everyone is a winner training in 203
all downhill from here
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everyone is a winner training in 203
all downhill from here
Cheddar horse is really good
So is walking on the moon
I wish the guy luck
Everyone says he’s decent guy
Why not
My pal has a three yr old trotter with him
He’s happy with AM
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AM is a zero,,no shot
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They haven't been in 03 and that track is short anyway. Can the Canadians cross the border with horses?
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They haven't been in 03 and that track is short anyway. Can the Canadians cross the border with horses?
I THINK HE SAID THEY BEEN IN 08..
THEY RIGHT ON SCHEDULE
,,CHEDDARS LOOK DANGEROUS THIS YR,,IN CANADA
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when things quiet down on this site, a troll is always ready willing and able to start up
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AM is a zero,,no shot
FEW CALLS ALL YEAR I BET
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FEW CALLS ALL YEAR I BET
his horse pop
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YES is a very nice trotter did well at yonkers tmbz1
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They do better after he sells them
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his horse pop
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YES is a very nice trotter did well at yonkers tmbz1
right...but touting 2yr olds in 2:03 is sketchy, even if they make it look easy. tmbz1
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Hope a better year than last year,
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right...but touting 2yr olds in 2:03 is sketchy, even if they make it look easy. tmbz1
I don't think he was touting
I think hes just making sure his owners are up to date
on progress of particular horses
but yes I wood never post the times the trainng in
sketchy iz word of the day
edward
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If the races only go in 204,,,,,he will be the king
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I don't think he was touting
I think hes just making sure his owners are up to date
on progress of particular horses
but yes I wood never post the times the trainng in
sketchy iz word of the day
edward
YOU KNOW THE SCORE....EVERYBOD Y WENT IN .08 AND A FEW WENT IN 06....THATS ALL YOU BETTORS NEED TO KNOW. ngc3
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They haven't been in 03 and that track is short anyway. Can the Canadians cross the border with horses?
I believe the border is closed both ways, only essential travel, so no horses.
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I believe the border is closed both ways, only essential travel, so no horses.
HORSES ALLOWED TO CROSS THE BORDER
MAY 21
INTO CANADA
BUT WILL HAVE TO QUERANTINE,,FOR 14 DAYS
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I believe the border is closed both ways, only essential travel, so no horses.
Horses have always been & will be allowed to cross the border but unless you are a Canadian Citizen & or permanent resident & or an essential services worker (horse people are not) you will not be able to enter Canada. If you meet the criteria above you will then have to go into a hard quarantine for 14 days & they are checking to make sure you stay in your resident. If you are caught leaving your residents before the 14 days is up you very well could be facing a large fine & or jail time. Horses do not have to be quarantined.
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Horses have always been & will be allowed to cross the border but unless you are a Canadian Citizen & or permanent resident & or an essential services worker (horse people are not) you will not be able to enter Canada. If you meet the criteria above you will then have to go into a hard quarantine for 14 days & they are checking to make sure you stay in your resident. If you are caught leaving your residents before the 14 days is up you very well could be facing a large fine & or jail time. Horses do not have to be quarantined.
They can transfer the horses over the border like Check Point Charlie in that Tom Hanks movie?
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Good Cassie can go home sit in the house for a couple of weeks and eat herself into oblivion, till the come for her fat ass
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well as for the stable.ca, no different than other stables
we will know soon enough, sure some look better than others but the fact is right now you have a pretty good idea of the ones who are not much but you don't really know of the rest who can drop the last 5 seconds to get qualified and race
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Do they run and gun every thing looking for a quick profit. What is their record for producing top horses? Did Tony not run for political office in Canada at one time.
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Good Cassie can go home sit in the house for a couple of weeks and eat herself into oblivion, till the come for her fat ass
Or enjoy herself in her nice home while you sit in your trailor.
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had one of their "stable stars" racing in bottom condition for 4500 tonight at scioto
didnt get a check. run at the start
im sure that didnt have anything to do with sending him 12 weeks in a row at 2 and 3
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Manny with the numbers they turn out the law of averages yes they get a few good ones but the stable average per horse was not good. If I recall it was 18k or less. But hey they are selling entertainment?
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Mazola, not sitting in a trailer, sitting on my deck. Just got home from a stressful day of work. NOT stressful at all! And I am not worrying over all those phone calls with Navarro or someone else, that were being listened to. She got away with that special yogurt. Hopefully when the authorities finally catch up, she willl have some questions to answer.
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purple
I assume you are referring to symba , trained by virgil morgan and driven by brett miller
parked 3 wide out of the 8 hole and broke while trying to get the front in a 27.4 first qtr
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Sounds like great trip handi. Too bad there other ponies in race.
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purple
I assume you are referring to symba , trained by virgil morgan and driven by brett miller
parked 3 wide out of the 8 hole and broke while trying to get the front in a 27.4 first qtr
yes ....thats the one
going all out for a 4500 dollar purse in his first start
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Sorry I missed that. The total purse is $4500.00. Why run. STAY HOME. SAVE A PONIE.
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and so your premise would be that amac called and told virgil morgan and brett miller how to race the horse
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and so your premise would be that amac called and told virgil morgan and brett miller how to race the horse
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the hate of a mack is contstant ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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purses are down 25% at scioto, should they not race?
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purses are down 25% at scioto, should they not race?
you should probably take back and come from behind so you have a horse all season
especially considering the small purse and first start of the year
sad circumstance for what could have been a nice horse
racing in bottom conditions...
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actually his 5th start of the year
Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins
now you’re a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?
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actually his 5th start of the year
Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins
now you’re a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?
THE GUY IS A JOKE
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actually his 5th start of the year
Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins
now you’re a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?
Every yr his horses are in 6 figures in the black with his horses
You better listen. He’s a guru
Yes he’s better than Virgil and better driver than
Miller
He’s a guru
Six figure. Guru
But but but but but but
Never mind he’s a GURU
RONNIE GURU ngc3 ngc3
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actually his 5th start of the year
Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins
now you’re a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?
i perhaps can manage a horse better than a driver or trainer who just want their money now and have different goals than an owner
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i perhaps can manage a horse better than a driver or trainer who just want their money now and have different goals than an owner
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THEIR GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERENT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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THEIR GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERENT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I CANT I JUST CANT
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MY GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERNT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I CANT I JUST CANT
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MY GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERNT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I DONT WANT MONEY TONIGHT,,,PLZ DONT TRY AT ALL UNTIL I SAY 9z.lg
MY GOALS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I DONT WANT MONEY TONIGHT,,,PLZ DONT TRY AT ALL UNTIL I SAY 9z.lg
MY GOALS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
TRULY RETARDED tmbz1
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TRULY RETARDED tmbz1
remind me the last time you made money in a year
pick any year since 2009.
thats when i did
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remind me the last time you made money in a year
pick any year since 2009.
thats when i did
16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT
,17 WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,
,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY
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BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,
13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET
11,,WON KYSS 250K,,
MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS
I NEVER LIE
I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
POST YOUR PLS tmbz1
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16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT
,17 WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,
,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY
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BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,
13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET
11,,WON KYSS 250K,,
MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS
I NEVER LIE
I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
POST YOUR PLS tmbz1
HES TRYNA FIND THEM
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16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT
,17 WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,
,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY
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BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,
13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET
11,,WON KYSS 250K,,
MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS
I NEVER LIE
I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
POST YOUR PLS tmbz1
winning races does not equal turning a profit
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16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT
,17 WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,
,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY
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BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,
13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET
11,,WON KYSS 250K,,
MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS
I NEVER LIE
I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
POST YOUR PLS tmbz1
we are EXACT opposite owners
you want to brag about what races you win and i want to make a proft...
its fine ...we have different goals, thats all
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we are EXACT opposite owners
you want to brag about what races you win and i want to make a proft...
its fine ...we have different goals, thats all
He's saying he's made $$ every year.
IDK,
The guy needs to use his toes to count to 10.
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we are EXACT opposite owners
you want to brag about what races you win and i want to make a proft...
its fine ...we have different goals, thats all
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u asked a question I gave u answer
..mr profit guy
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u asked a question I gave u answer
..mr profit guy
STILL WAITIN ON HIS LIST TOO.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I THINK JOE HAD MORE HORSES IN POCONOS
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STILL WAITIN ON HIS LIST TOO.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I THINK JOE HAD MORE HORSES IN POCONOS
he went thru more trainers than horses
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he went thru more trainers than horses
;D ;D ;D ;D
dont you ever got tired of being wrong about everything??
man that would get discouraging you would think...
or maybe you just keep trying so that the next time you can be right about something to make up for all the pain of being wrong every other time...
heres a hint,...it wont happen, you are destined to be wrong, you dont have the brain capactity to make good decisions or see things correctly
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dont you ever got tired of being wrong about everything??
man that would get discouraging you would think...
or maybe you just keep trying so that the next time you can be right about something to make up for all the pain of being wrong every other time...
heres a hint,...it wont happen, you are destined to be wrong, you dont have the brain capactity to make good decisions or see things correctly
WHAT KINDA PATTERNS WILL YOU BE SEEING THIS YEAR?
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WHAT KINDA PATTERNS WILL YOU BE SEEING THIS YEAR?
not much to see so far..takes time for a pattern to develop
looks like this hitchcock fellow is going to have a big meet
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not much to see so far..takes time for a pattern to develop
looks like this hitchcock fellow is going to have a big meet
fwiw,
This reads less credible than a drunken IceFag name drop post.
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WHAT KINDA PATTERNS WILL YOU BE SEEING THIS YEAR?
judging by symbas race i see a pattern that the stable.ca will be going all out in every race and very few of their horses will get a dozen starts in
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not much to see so far..takes time for a pattern to develop
looks like this hitchcock fellow is going to have a big meet
Alfred?
who's he training; Master Bates?
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judging by symbas race i see a pattern that the stable.ca will be going all out in every race and very few of their horses will get a dozen starts in
Well, it is almost June. the 2 year olds wont get that many starts in and if you think they should then you are a hypocrit for complaining about over racing them.
the 3 year olds should all get 12 starts in - even at 3 a month, and the older horses will get that few starts in -
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Well, it is almost June. the 2 year olds wont get that many starts in and if you think they should then you are a hypocrit for complaining about over racing them.
the 3 year olds should all get 12 starts in - even at 3 a month, and the older horses will get that few starts in -
i dont respond to trolls
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fwiw,
This reads less credible than a drunken IceFag name drop post.
ok...i'm gonna laugh here. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
now fuck off tmbz1
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They sell entertainment so no need to have a winning year because average earnings were18k or less on 2 or olds last year. There having a fire sale to private clients to rid the 1400 open shares. I imagine the sales will be much different especially since prices will be lower. They can't buy 100 8-10k priced yearly?
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You get what you pay for,,,Just look at the stumble bun trainers they use
Most expensive thing in the world is cheap help
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i dont respond to trolls
come on - you just don't like it when you get called out when you make all these stupid fuckin comments all due to your disdain with Amac and your purported superior ability to manage a stable. You doubt any will even get 12 starts . what a fucking stupid comment.
Then you tell the fishing king that he hasn't made any money with his stock at all and he shows you the answer.
you are an easy target - -its like shooting fish in a pot.
Your Ultracrepidariani sm on training is the issue pal (and of course your feud with the Stable or Amac which you have bemoaned more times). The Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer on USTA is a little outdated - you should probably offer to publish your version;
I will wait for your usual when your Sophomania kicks in
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come on - you just don't like it when you get called out when you make all these stupid fuckin comments all due to your disdain with Amac and your purported superior ability to manage a stable. You doubt any will even get 12 starts . what a fucking stupid comment.
Then you tell the fishing king that he hasn't made any money with his stock at all and he shows you the answer.
you are an easy target - -its like shooting fish in a pot.
Your Ultracrepidariani sm on training is the issue pal (and of course your feud with the Stable or Amac which you have bemoaned more times). The Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer on USTA is a little outdated - you should probably offer to publish your version;
I will wait for your usual when your Sophomania kicks in
tmbz1
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come on - you just don't like it when you get called out when you make all these stupid fuckin comments all due to your disdain with Amac and your purported superior ability to manage a stable. You doubt any will even get 12 starts . what a fucking stupid comment.
Then you tell the fishing king that he hasn't made any money with his stock at all and he shows you the answer.
you are an easy target - -its like shooting fish in a pot.
Your Ultracrepidariani sm on training is the issue pal (and of course your feud with the Stable or Amac which you have bemoaned more times). The Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer on USTA is a little outdated - you should probably offer to publish your version;
I will wait for your usual when your Sophomania kicks in
i am not one to back down or not explain my pov.
just not going to waste my time with a troll, mr 4 posts
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i am not one to back down or not explain my pov.
just not going to waste my time with a troll, mr 4 posts
come on pal - I have trolled, I mean corrected you way more times than that. Heck at least 4 times on the Bottle of Red topic when you said he snotted her, she wouldnt come back and how you would have taken her right to the back (and she won next start), 6 times when the topic was about their international winner, 8 times on the topic of anthony keeps robbing his owners and your yapping about your 6500 bill on a maiden, , at least 5 times on the mixed sale and how you could have gotten more, 12 times on how you have an eagle eye at sales and he just buys cheap horses for bills, etc., etc., .
See the PW reset unfortunately doesnt keep track of posts. Dont humble yourself to think I sat here for 8 years waiting to respond to your dribble - so see you next topic (invariably on the same subject).
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i am not one to back down or not explain my pov.
just not going to waste my time with a troll, mr 4 posts
AMAC KICKIN YOUR ASS?
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come on pal - I have trolled, I mean corrected you way more times than that. Heck at least 4 times on the Bottle of Red topic when you said he snotted her, she wouldnt come back and how you would have taken her right to the back (and she won next start), 6 times when the topic was about their international winner, 8 times on the topic of anthony keeps robbing his owners and your yapping about your 6500 bill on a maiden, , at least 5 times on the mixed sale and how you could have gotten more, 12 times on how you have an eagle eye at sales and he just buys cheap horses for bills, etc., etc., .
See the PW reset unfortunately doesnt keep track of posts. Dont humble yourself to think I sat here for 8 years waiting to respond to your dribble - so see you next topic (invariably on the same subject).
Why change User Name?
You convert to Islam?
Witless Protection?
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Why change User Name?
You convert to Islam?
Witless Protection?
lol
seniors moment - you will have them if you havent already - it was PW not username
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lol
seniors moment - you will have them if you havent already - it was PW not username
I challenged your boy purple
On 1000 bet
He backed down
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I challenged your boy purple
On 1000 bet
He backed down
yes its well documented - countless topics that contain this same, ongoing wager
and he aint my boy - he seems to be more like your boy target, victim, sucker, fish, etc.,
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I challenged your boy purple
On 1000 bet
He backed down
one must always ask...what is your goal/target
yes, you will have a horse make more money than any of mine...
i will default that to you...
the question thats really important is who turns a better profit ...
that i will beat you in every year
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Ok let’s forget bout that horse
U pic your two yr.
I will pick one of mine
Nobody has raced
Simple bet. 500
Which two yr old makes more money this yr
U gotta own the horse
Joshua
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Ok let’s forget bout that horse
U pic your two yr.
I will pick one of mine
Nobody has raced
Simple bet. 500
Which two yr old makes more money this yr
U gotta own the horse
Joshua
you really are retarded
it doesnt matter who has one horse that makes more...
courant will have us both beat....but they also will lose thousands...becau se all they want is to win prestigous races....like you
i dont give a damn about winning stakes...im trying to turn a profit...
and that i will beat you in
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Real doctor maybe purple deserves some of that medicine or not? Yes seems to have a axe to grind and it's the same stories. But there is some truth to what he speaks at times. While the stable has whittled down about 600 shares the past weeks there are over 1350 available. Maybe some are breeders but on the street there is north of 600k in CDN dollars to take that to zero. Horses price, training, stakes, sure one can say your getting a final price before racing but one can say its end of May and qualifying is in a couple weeks and there are reasons those shares exist. I'm not sure the big trainers would ever allow that? They buy there horses and owners seem to be in once the first months bill is due. Whether there is a big fire sale to clean that up most of those horses start racing elsewhere and someone will have to pay a real bill to a new trainer.
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the stable disinigrates this year
and his get out of jail free card will be the pandemic
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perhaps
but lets be honest every politician and business person will blame the pandemic for anything bad in the next 5 years
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the stable disinigrates this year
and his get out of jail free card will be the pandemic
actually i think it will a lot of people's potential "get out of jail". I do think that the 2 year olds everywhere within reason should still be on their original schedules (not many changes).
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actually i think it will a lot of people's potential "get out of jail". I do think that the 2 year olds everywhere within reason should still be on their original schedules (not many changes).
all 2 yr olds should be on schedule
many good 3 and 4 yr old races
postponed or terminated
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There are changes IN one less leg and less money for those legs. NY was to announce changes to their SS and I thought I heard no racing at Buffalo. NJ and ONT have government funding maybe no change. OH possibly no changes and PA just getting on board weeks away from knowing anything as racing gets the green light. Whether the 3 and 4 year olds miss any racing there are schedule potential overlapping or very little down time between starts if they are cramming races in.
What will be interesting is if any track has a virus outbreak if its swept under the tug quicker then a rash of contamination positives.
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Your absolutely right and I have been on board with you about this thing blowing up. Where is Anthony and his pearly white smile these days, people have been talking about how he is trying to make like things are all good but you can see in his face he knows this gig is done, he's a bundle of nerves. Looks good on him for playing this pyramid scheme but what it more than likely does is put the rat out of the game and good riddance.
i dont see the stable star knockdown dragout qualifying at meadowlands today
who is going to be the flagship for the stable this year?
500 horses purchased and not 1 horse that you can hang your hat on?
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i dont see the stable star knockdown dragout qualifying at meadowlands today
who is going to be the flagship for the stable this year?
500 horses purchased and not 1 horse that you can hang your hat on?
actually she is into QUA on Monday at mohawk and I don't think she is the flagship horse?
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She was filled with lot of hype and her shares were priced heavily when she sold out. By far the most touted horse as a 2yr old last year into qualifiers.
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NO one gives a SHIT about QUALIFIERS and openin racin.
Are you QUEER FUCS aware whats going on in this COUNTRY.
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actually she is into QUA on Monday at mohawk and I don't think she is the flagship horse?
then who is the flagship horse?
they have bought at least 500 shouldnt there be a few flagships?
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then who is the flagship horse?
they have bought at least 500 shouldnt there be a few flagships?
killing u aint it he kicked u out
that's what Canadian guys told me ,,weds night
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killing u aint it he kicked u out
that's what Canadian guys told me ,,weds night
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killing u aint it he kicked u out
that's what Canadian guys told me ,,weds night
as usual...wrong
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dont you ever get tired of being wrong about things
guess if you have no pride it wouldnt matter
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as usual...wrong
He's not wrong on this one. Word get's around and you know it.
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then who is the flagship horse?
they have bought at least 500 shouldnt there be a few flagships?
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well i guess the 500 they bought is a cumulative total - which seems high - if they have 130 horses, does that mean 370 horses have been moved in the last 4 years?
Swandre the Giant - pretty good horse -
Lawmaker - not a bad horse -think I saw him in the Hambo- who did you have in there?
Globetrotting - she wasnt a bad horse - arguably the best or second best 2 yr. old trotting filly in Ohio last year - tough luck in final
Yes - not a bad horse - think he won some opens at some good tracks
the first three I would say arent bad - the fourth one has a world record
I realize its not a Takter resume but its not that bad - something tells me you werent in on any of those ones?
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all the unsold shares have to be an issue especially with cash flow
as for a flagship horse that is hard to do when you pay between $15k and $35 k
as with any business if you are not profitable than time runs out, if horses were making money than people carry on but when horses are not turning a profit it is hard to invest more dollars in yearlings and now the corvid 19 has meant no cash for 10 weeks so its on thin ice
the verdict will be determined in a few months when the horses hit the track, are they as competitive as he suggests or do they fall short against better bred from bigger stables
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HES TOLD HIS LAST LIE
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He's not wrong on this one. Word get's around and you know it.
He is wrong,,,,Lucpark doesn't know one Canuck,,,,,,He still thinks Toronto is a suburb of Detroit,,,,,,Plus purple outbid him twice at the Meds,,Fact
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He is wrong,,,,Lucpark doesn't know one Canuck,,,,,,He still thinks Toronto is a suburb of Detroit,,,,,,Plus purple outbid him twice at the Meds,,Fact
if i want a horse i take him..
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hes never out bid me on anyhting anywhere
those are facts
junior
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That's what he told me,,, I know purple a long time,,,he doesn't lie
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That's what he told me,,, I know purple a long time,,,he doesn't lie
im alot of things but one thing im not is a liar
lawmaker...not with the stable..
swandre....never was with the stable
globtrotting...ma de some money last year, we will see how she comes back
yes did well because yonkers has giant pursues. i can name 5 trainers with 5 or 6 20 or 30 claimers that made more money than yes last year
out of 500 horses thats not enough
how about the 6 horses that qualified today....1 of them came home faster than 29.2
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He is wrong,,,,Lucpark doesn't know one Canuck,,,,,,He still thinks Toronto is a suburb of Detroit,,,,,,Plus purple outbid him twice at the Meds,,Fact
TORONTO IS NOT THAT FUCKIN FAR JOE
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im alot of things but one thing im not is a liar
lawmaker...not with the stable..
swandre....never was with the stable
globtrotting...ma de some money last year, we will see how she comes back
yes did well because yonkers has giant pursues. i can name 5 trainers with 5 or 6 20 or 30 claimers that made more money than yes last year
out of 500 horses thats not enough
how about the 6 horses that qualified today....1 of them came home faster than 29.2
I dont know why you bemoan everything he does
For someone who was never with the stable - he sure seemed to have a clue about this horse who you say was never with the stable - who do you think broke the horse- Brandon Bates?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4HXC7a0ik
lawmaker not with the stable ? ya thats why he gave the drive to Miller
as to your qua comment, i went and looked in case you were onto something - you are right two of them came home in 29.2, one faster, BUT then again the track variant was in play and no horse came home faster than 29 the entire card - so perhaps thats a factor?
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"and NO horse came home under 29 the entire card"? Perhaps you need to take another look if your calling out the previous poster but two came home in 28 and another in 28.3 if we are being totally correct.
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"and NO horse came home under 29 the entire card"? Perhaps you need to take another look if your calling out the previous poster but two came home in 28 and another in 28.3 if we are being totally correct.
you are correct - they did - ironic in a race that his horses finished one-two - but yes two horse did the entire card (well 3 if the RUS races count). 2 horses out of 35 from the entire card came home in under 29 seconds - none of those two were his horses - thanks for updating that one part of my retort.
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I dont know why you bemoan everything he does
For someone who was never with the stable - he sure seemed to have a clue about this horse who you say was never with the stable - who do you think broke the horse- Brandon Bates?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4HXC7a0ik
lawmaker not with the stable ? ya thats why he gave the drive to Miller
as to your qua comment, i went and looked in case you were onto something - you are right two of them came home in 29.2, one faster, BUT then again the track variant was in play and no horse came home faster than 29 the entire card - so perhaps thats a factor?
the horse was trained down by anthony, he was not part of the stable...but keep trying to twist the story...and lawmaker is in europe and is no longer with the stable.
and you can defend and deflect but its true. 6 horses 1 comes home faster than 29.2
not much to write home about...
that might be the stable slogan for the next few months
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the horse was trained down by anthony, he was not part of the stable...but keep trying to twist the story...and lawmaker is in europe and is no longer with the stable.
and you can defend and deflect but its true. 6 horses 1 comes home faster than 29.2
not much to write home about...
that might be the stable slogan for the next few months
so let me see if I get this right
a guy trains a horse - gets him ready to race - doesnt live in Indiana and ships him to a trainer there, the owners are still the same owners that were with the horse when anthony broke and trained him and that doesnt count?
The guy trains and mostly drives a horse for 2 years, gets him into the Hambo, then sells him and that doesnt count
you said they've never had a flagship horse - maybe you mean you arent sure who it will be this year - is that what you are attempting to articulate ? just asking.
Rocco - Rock N Tony doesnt count for your resume - you sold him (smart move).
I dont care what their slogan is - you just keep knocking and wishing ill-will to someone who you didnt have a good experience with but some 700 others have or do (so far).
Do you have shares in Internet VIP horses?
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so let me see if I get this right
a guy trains a horse - gets him ready to race - doesnt live in Indiana and ships him to a trainer there, the owners are still the same owners that were with the horse when anthony broke and trained him and that doesnt count?
The guy trains and mostly drives a horse for 2 years, gets him into the Hambo, then sells him and that doesnt count
you said they've never had a flagship horse - maybe you mean you arent sure who it will be this year - is that what you are attempting to articulate ? just asking.
Rocco - Rock N Tony doesnt count for your resume - you sold him (smart move).
I dont care what their slogan is - you just keep knocking and wishing ill-will to someone who you didnt have a good experience with but some 700 others have or do (so far).
Do you have shares in Internet VIP horses?
no it doesnt count because he wasnt open to be bought by people of "the stable" and wasnt owned by "the stable"
and yes lawmaker "counted" but now he doesnt...the money that he was sold for was reinvested into horses that arent worth mentioning
and im not wishing ill...beleive me i wanted it to work out...but with the mismanagement, and it only getting worse just prediciting that it wont
and no im not in vip...
i am not in any partnerships at this time...just 21 horses of my own...
but i was in the stable...heavy... untill i saw the ridicoulous bills and overblown promises or horses abilities
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no it doesnt count because he wasnt open to be bought by people of "the stable" and wasnt owned by "the stable"
and yes lawmaker "counted" but now he doesnt...the money that he was sold for was reinvested into horses that arent worth mentioning
and im not wishing ill...beleive me i wanted it to work out...but with the mismanagement, and it only getting worse just prediciting that it wont
and no im not in vip...
i am not in any partnerships at this time...just 21 horses of my own...
but i was in the stable...heavy... untill i saw the ridicoulous bills and overblown promises or horses abilities
U GOT 21 GOIN TO THE TRACK THIS SUMMER?.....GL tmbz1
HAD YOU BEEN IN ON A WIN OR TWO, THE SOUR GRAPES GO AWAY I BET.
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U GOT 21 GOIN TO THE TRACK THIS SUMMER?.....GL tmbz1
HAD YOU BEEN IN ON A WIN OR TWO, THE SOUR GRAPES GO AWAY I BET.
actually had a great year last year...
like every wear
and march was on pace to be my best month ever before the shut down
but yes the shut down has me sour
but still i will point out people who post things incorrectly and that are misleading wether or not im winning
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actually had a great year last year...
like every wear
and march was on pace to be my best month ever before the shut down
but yes the shut down has me sour
but still i will point out people who post things incorrectly and that are misleading wether or not im winning
I would take Rockys bet, just sayin. He can't win a replay..... tmbz1
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some of what purple says is correct, he just doesn't always present it well
harness is a tough business to turn a profit in as an owner
the stable.ca is likely not the best spot if you are in fact trying to break even or better
the model doesn't work for everyone, look at what he buys, but if you like to see your horses train, get fancy updates, feed them carrots etc while not worrying about the bottom line have at it , they serve those clients very well
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ROCKY DONT MIND RIDICULOUS BILLS AND DRONE TRAINING WITH FAKE UPDATES...HE'S A CARROT FEEDER
PURPLE JUST WANTS THE CASH ngc3
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ROCKY DONT MIND RIDICULOUS BILLS AND DRONE TRAINING WITH FAKE UPDATES...HE'S A CARROT FEEDER
PURPLE JUST WANTS THE CASH ngc3
bingo
well actually i like wathicng my horses train too
but profit is the bottom line
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bingo
well actually i like wathicng my horses train too
but profit is the bottom line
Your profits may skyrocket at any time, but I've never seen his luck change. As a free advisor...take the bet tmbz1.
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ROCKY DONT MIND RIDICULOUS BILLS AND DRONE TRAINING WITH FAKE UPDATES...HE'S A CARROT FEEDER
PURPLE JUST WANTS THE CASH ngc3
THKS FOR SPEAKING FOR ME
EDWARD..
ITS MY MONEY TO WASTE,,
bottom line ,,is have fun,,
win or lose we all want to win,,
PS..
dont worry about the fancy videos and anything else
we want to win but if it dont happen
it dont happen
thn we try to buy better horses
follwing yr
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THKS FOR SPEAKING FOR ME
EDWARD..
ITS MY MONEY TO WASTE,,
bottom line ,,is have fun,,
win or lose we all want to win,,
PS..
dont worry about the fancy videos and anything else
we want to win but if it dont happen
it dont happen
thn we try to buy better horses
follwing yr
im tryna have u guys bet so I can decide how to bet.
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Your profits may skyrocket at any time, but I've never seen his luck change. As a free advisor...take the bet tmbz1.
i try to grind out profits with multiple horses...not strike it rich with one horse
so yes, he will have 1 horse make more than any of mine do..
stupid bet for me
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i try to grind out profits with multiple horses...not strike it rich with one horse
so yes, he will have 1 horse make more than any of mine do..
stupid bet for me
Don't blame ya for hatin on AMac then 73cv.2.
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so yes, he will have 1 horse make more than any of mine do..
stupid bet for me
JOSHUA
FOR 2 YRS U HAVE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW BAD A MAC IS WITH BABIES
AND THAT U HAVE AN EYE FOR BABIES,,
ETC ETC ETC
OK MR PROFIT MAN
FORGET ABOUT MY 3 AND 4 YRS OLDS,,
HOW BOUT A SIMPLE
BET
your 2 yr old u own aganist 1 of my 2 yr olds i own
simple bet
1000 bet which horse makes more money in 2020
,,
do u have a 2 yr old ,,
1000 bet ,,,mr profit man
yes or no and name your 2 yr old
,,im waiting,,
or you not sure of your ability to
buy a baby,,
and if I win
IM SENDING MY 1000 TO ANTHONY MAC
AS A GIFT FROM YOU
IS IT A BET
PIC YOUR 2 YR OLD ,
IM WAITING
THKS JOSHUA
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JOSHUA
FOR 2 YRS U HAVE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW BAD A MAC IS WITH BABIES
AND THAT U HAVE AN EYE FOR BABIES,,
ETC ETC ETC
OK MR PROFIT MAN
FORGET ABOUT MY 3 AND 4 YRS OLDS,,
HOW BOUT A SIMPLE
BET
your 2 yr old u own aganist 1 of my 2 yr olds i own
simple bet
1000 bet which horse makes more money in 2020
,,
do u have a 2 yr old ,,
1000 bet ,,,mr profit man
yes or no and name your 2 yr old
,,im waiting,,
or you not sure of your ability to
buy a baby,,
and if I win
IM SENDING MY 1000 TO ANTHONY MAC
AS A GIFT FROM YOU
IS IT A BET
PIC YOUR 2 YR OLD ,
IM WAITING
THKS JOSHUA
JOSHUA TREE HAS 21 HORSES
HOW MANY ARE BABIES?
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JOSHUA
FOR 2 YRS U HAVE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW BAD A MAC IS WITH BABIES
AND THAT U HAVE AN EYE FOR BABIES,,
ETC ETC ETC
OK MR PROFIT MAN
FORGET ABOUT MY 3 AND 4 YRS OLDS,,
HOW BOUT A SIMPLE
BET
your 2 yr old u own aganist 1 of my 2 yr olds i own
simple bet
1000 bet which horse makes more money in 2020
,,
do u have a 2 yr old ,,
1000 bet ,,,mr profit man
yes or no and name your 2 yr old
,,im waiting,,
or you not sure of your ability to
buy a baby,,
and if I win
IM SENDING MY 1000 TO ANTHONY MAC
AS A GIFT FROM YOU
IS IT A BET
PIC YOUR 2 YR OLD ,
IM WAITING
THKS JOSHUA
Everytime i think you cant get any dumber you prove me wrong
i never said he was bad with babies, i said he bought cheap babies in an attempt to get himself rich instead of buying fewer horses and getting more qualitiy...
i never said i had an eye for babies..
EVERY
SINGLE
THING
you say is wrong
i pity people who have to deal with you on a daily basis
i dont own 2 year olds
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Purple remember the guy don’t pay,,,,still owes me 1k from the Obama election
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Purple remember the guy don’t pay,,,,still owes me 1k from the Obama election
plus 6-1 on buying dinners, right Joe?
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The list goes on and on
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Long list,never ending
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Lucpark taking a beating here.
Contest: Who's gonna shred LucPark next?
My pick .... that Webster kid from TV. Fair match
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They are the same height
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luc screams dont trust me
dont beleive me
dont listen to me
thats what happens when you chime in your 2 cents and are WRONG about EVERYTHING
man i would hate myself if i was that type of person
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They are the same height
Lucpark 5'3", 195 lbs... can't jump over a pencil.
Webster 4'7",88 lbs... but got crazy hops.
Fair match.
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I put out a bet
,,
and Joshua
says nooooo,
once again ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
im hoping anthony does well this yr
,,,
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harness owners
jmvhMFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wp4ItWi8y4
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my next Anthony mac thread starts after he qualifies
his babies
until then
keep reading everything I post my little
PIGEONS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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brought out the "big guns" today at mohawk...
so far only 1 of the 3 has come home faster thant 29.2
and that one was losing ground doing so coming home in 29
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stable star knockdown dragout..
her too couldnt beat 29.2 home
i thought in qualifiers your last quarter was supposed to be your fastest??
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brought out the "big guns" today at mohawk...
so far only 1 of the 3 has come home faster thant 29.2
and that one was losing ground doing so coming home in 29
I DONT THINK ANTHONY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HORSES
AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS STALKING HIS HORSES
..U GOT ASKED TO LEAVE HIS BARN
I UNDERSTAND IT STINGS AND HURTS
I FEEL YOUR PAIN
ASK ANTHONY NICELY HE MITE TAKE YOU BACK
I CAN MAKE A CALL IF U WANT ME TOO
IM SERIOUS tmbz1
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Lucpark 5'3", 195 lbs... can't jump over a pencil.
Webster 4'7",88 lbs... but got crazy hops.
Fair match.
I will subscribe if it’s on PPV
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I DONT THINK ANTHONY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HORSES
AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS STALKING HIS HORSES
..U GOT ASKED TO LEAVE HIS BARN
I UNDERSTAND IT STINGS AND HURTS
I FEEL YOUR PAIN
ASK ANTHONY NICELY HE MITE TAKE YOU BACK
I CAN MAKE A CALL IF U WANT ME TOO
IM SERIOUS tmbz1
correct me if im wrong...
isnt this thread about the stable and how its doing this year?
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I DONT THINK ANTHONY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HORSES
AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS STALKING HIS HORSES
..U GOT ASKED TO LEAVE HIS BARN
I UNDERSTAND IT STINGS AND HURTS
I FEEL YOUR PAIN
ASK ANTHONY NICELY HE MITE TAKE YOU BACK
I CAN MAKE A CALL IF U WANT ME TOO
IM SERIOUS tmbz1
you are such a lowlife piece of shit
rather than admit when you are wrong...now its my fault that im paying attention...
you are literally the dumbest most worthless type of loser human i encounter
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next time i see you im going to shoulder you
just because...
enjoy
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Anybody who gets involved with AMAC just burn your money and save the aggravation
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here comes potential flagship globetrotting
they sent this one down the pike ALOT last year
i was always told you gotta be careful sending a horse too much
especially a 2 year old
especially a filly
lets see...
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I will subscribe if it’s on PPV
UFC
'Lil Bit Division
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you are such a lowlife piece of shit
rather than admit when you are wrong...now its my fault that im paying attention...
you are literally the dumbest most worthless type of loser human i encounter
I’m wrong about what
Your angry cus u got asked to leave barn
Anthony did not want a KNOW IT ALL IN BARN
IT HURTS IM SORRY I FEEL FOR YOU
And now your daily stalking of Anthony horses
U wishing he does bad
Remember karma
Joshua
RACE YOUR CHEAP HORSES AND BE HAPPY
YOUR ON YOUR 57 th trainer
got them Working on deals? I hear things ngc3
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I’m wrong about what
Your angry cus u got asked to leave barn
I did hear the same thing
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He's selling entertainment? The low $$$ average per horse shouldn't be a factor in the success of the stable. Poor q's sure the spin will be otherwise?
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here comes potential flagship globetrotting
they sent this one down the pike ALOT last year
i was always told you gotta be careful sending a horse too much
especially a 2 year old
especially a filly
lets see...
some race 2yr olds harder than others
its up to trainers and if owners ok with the way
their trainer of choice does it ,,why u care
again u don't any babies
enjoy racin your cheap horses
and stop giving everyone advice
thks tmbz1
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He's selling entertainment? The low $$$ average per horse shouldn't be a factor in the success of the stable. Poor q's sure the spin will be otherwise?
jimmy you know some don't qualify their babies really hard
..
aka,RW,,
and then u will babies go in 53 or faster in a few weeks at bigm
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globetrotting went first up
walked across the wire
didnt post the lq yet but im guessing 31 and a piece??
thats not going to get it done for a flagship
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correct me if im wrong...
isnt this thread about the stable and how its doing this year?
yes it is
u seem to be angry with Anthony
why can u clarify
why u got asked to leave
oops
im sorry u left on your own'
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What top trainers don’t train hard,,,,Burke ,Tony and Takter and Ake all go hard and they show results ,,,ez training is a thing of the past
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some race 2yr olds harder than others
its up to trainers and if owners ok with the way
their trainer of choice does it ,,why u care
again u don't any babies
enjoy racin your cheap horses
and stop giving everyone advice
thks tmbz1
i have a blast racing 20 horses all over the country getting my picture taken constantly and making more money every year than the year before...
you enjoy what you do
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yes it is
u seem to be angry with Anthony
why can u clarify
why u got asked to leave
oops
im sorry u left on your own'
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i already addressed with you that this is 100 percent false
i left on my own for a number of reasons..
but since you continue to spread lies ill keep that in mind as im measuring you up with my shoulder
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i already addressed with you that this is 100 percent false
i left on my own for a number of reasons..
but since you continue to spread lies ill keep that in mind as im measuring you up with my shoulder
haha im not comin any more
just to piss you off more
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no lies Joshua
just stop wishinh Anthony bad
they are not your horses why worry how bout the people that own them maybe they read here
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RACE YOUR CHEAP FUCKIN HORSES
MAKE A 1200 PROFIT AND THEN TELL US HOW GREAT YOU ARE AT MAKIN A PROFIT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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haha im not comin any more
just to piss you off more
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no lies Joshua
just stop wishinh Anthony bad
they are not your horses why worry how bout the people that own them maybe they read here
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RACE YOUR CHEAP FUCKIN HORSES
MAKE A 1200 PROFIT AND THEN TELL US HOW GREAT YOU ARE AT MAKIN A PROFIT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
6 figures a year every year since 2009
but tell yourself whatever you like
if you ever asked someone real from the east coast they would tell you
now know your role and shut your mouth
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6 figures a year every year since 2009
but tell yourself whatever you like
if you ever asked someone real from the east coast they would tell you
now know your role and shut your mouth
Your flagship horse right now?
(If you had to name one for a tv intrview)
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6 figures a year every year since 2009
but tell yourself whatever you like
if you ever asked someone real from the east coast they would tell you
now know your role and shut your mouth
\\
NAME YOUR FLAGSHIP''
JOSHUA
WE WAITING
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PICK YOUR SIX FIGURE HORSE
AND I WILL PICK MINE
DONT CHICKEN
OUT
2000 BET ,LETS
MR PROFIT
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NO FAITH 6 FIGURES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
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NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
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NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
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F L A G S H I P
NAME YOUR FLAGSHIP HORSE
J O S H U A
NO YOUR PLACE
NAME YOUR FLAGSHIP
OR SHUT THE FUCK UP tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
i dont need a flag ship
i dont pay big money for horses
and im not advertising for my stable
but my best horse is all champy
i paid 10k for him and he earned about 130k just last year
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NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
Your flagship horse right now?
(If you had to name one for a tv intrview)
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
Settle down, Lil Bit.
We talking FLAG ship
Not Fag Ship
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6 figures a year every year since 2009
Do YOU own these horses by your OWN self?
Or are they owned by your Ancestors?
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i dont need a flag ship
i dont pay big money for horses
and im not advertising for my stable
but my best horse is all champy
i paid 10k for him and he earned about 130k just last year
ALL CHAMPY
VERSUS
RGF
FOR 1000?
and im not like you
I wish good for the horse hope he does well
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ALL CHAMPY
VERSUS
RGF
FOR 1000?
and im not like you
I wish good for the horse hope he does well
who said i was hoping for him to do bad?
i want him to do well....
but i dont see things going well seeing how things are being done and thats what im reporting on
i would love for his stable to do things the right way and bring new successful owners in
im just calling it like it see it, not ill wishing
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Every one simmer down, ok,
Now,,,
Bono and The Edge walk into a bar...
The Bartender Says, "Oh no, _________ "
@@ Fill the blank @@@
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hmmmm
globetrotting was a judges scratch
guess i was watching the wrong horse...
any details from up there?
judges scratch in a qually?
lame on track?
refuse the gate?
shit i would refuse the gate too if they sent me 1000 off it every time
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purple
you need to go back to watching his videos,
all the globetrotting issues are on those for the past week
if you are going to troll someone do it correctly and be informed
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purple
you need to go back to watching his videos,
all the globetrotting issues are on those for the past week
if you are going to troll someone do it correctly and be informed
sorry
luc already called me out for paying too close attention
idk if id be allowed to watch his videos that might be paying attention to something i comment on, which is frowned upon by him
only comment on things you dont follow.....then if you start following too much , call the person out for it
great logic
from a loser moron
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I did hear the same thing
fact...
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fact...
Did you see Purple's interview? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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great logic
from a loser moron
You live in your parents condo, right?
Have you ever had a job?
Do you make car payments?
We are told you graduated Junior College and retired to play horse owner.?
With Mom and Pop's Sheckels?
Be a little humple.
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Did you see Purple's interview? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Yes. Skipped answering why he was asked to leave that barn.
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Purple is loaded and buys his fair ,,,,not a cheapskate like another guy we know
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Purple is loaded and buys his fair ,,,,not a cheapskate like another guy we know
Kinder than Chevy Dealer?
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Don’t you mean Chevy car washer
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Purple is loaded and buys his fair ,,,,not a cheapskate like another guy we know
I do not believe that is so.
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I do not believe that is so.
He owns 10% of 21 horses...HEZ LOADED ngc3
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He owns 10% of 21 horses...HEZ LOADED ngc3
Somebody needs to upload his video.
facebook, Pa Horse Racing Facebook.
I do not link facebook pages.
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He owns 10% of 21 horses...HEZ LOADED ngc3
Jerry Silva only owns 10 to 15% of all his horses,,,,whatas your point
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50 percent.
not a bad interview right???
if you dig deep you can find an interview i did for "the stable" when i was at their open house
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50 percent.
not a bad interview right???
if you dig deep you can find an interview i did for "the stable" when i was at their open house
DID U DO ANY INTERVIEWS AFTER YOU WERE ASKED TO LEAVE ,,THE STABLE
JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND...
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HEY PURP
CAN U LIST ALL YOUR HORSES PLS
I WANNA PUT THEM IN MY VIRTUAL STABLE SO I CAN BET AND FOLLOW YOUR HORSES
YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE FOR HORSE FLESH
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DID U DO ANY INTERVIEWS AFTER YOU WERE ASKED TO LEAVE ,,THE STABLE
JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND...
do you know why you are the absoulute lowlife scum
because not only are you wrong about things...
but you keep pushing it even after you are wrong
that makes you scum and worthless
i truly pity anyone that has to deal with you on a daily basis
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50 percent.
not a bad interview right???
if you dig deep you can find an interview i did for "the stable" when i was at their open house
What is your SOURCE OF FUNDS?
Did you Ever WORK?
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HEY PURP
CAN U LIST ALL YOUR HORSES PLS
I WANNA PUT THEM IN MY VIRTUAL STABLE SO I CAN BET AND FOLLOW YOUR HORSES
YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE FOR HORSE FLESH
no hidden ownership. just pay attention and you will see
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no hidden ownership. just pay attention and you will see
do you know why you are the absoulute lowlife scum
because not only are you wrong about things...
but you keep pushing it even after you are wrong
that makes you scum and worthless
i truly pity anyone that has to deal with you on a daily basis
THKS FOR DEALING WITH ME DAILY
ITS APPRECIATED
I ASKED U A QUESTION
ANY INTERVIEWS CRITIZING THE STABLE AFTER U LEFT
SIMPLE QUESTION
ASKIN FOR A FRIEND
WHY U SO UPSET
IM ASKIN PEEPS WANNA \KNOW
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no hidden ownership. just pay attention and you will see
LIST THE HORSES QUIT BE A JAGG ALL THE TIME
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What is your SOURCE OF FUNDS?
Did you Ever WORK?
i did.
many jobs
now since they stable has been paying six figures i do the stable and coach football
ive been a head coach for 2 different teams the past 4 years and was an offensive coordinator for 2 different teams before that, including winning a state championship
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LIST THE HORSES QUIT BE A JAGG ALL THE TIME
,,
stop being such a cheap ass and do a pathway search on me if you care so much
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just sold the andover hall i had advertised so now do to 20...just an fyi
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stop being such a cheap ass and do a pathway search on me if you care so much
i did.
many jobs
now since they stable has been paying six figures i do the stable and coach football
ive been a head coach for 2 different teams the past 4 years and was an offensive coordinator for 2 different teams before that, including winning a state championship
HIGH SCHOOL COACH THATS GREAT
DIDI U SUE THE STABLE
HOW THEY PAYIN SIX FIGURES
JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND
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i did.
many jobs
now since they stable has been paying six figures i do the stable and coach football
ive been a head coach for 2 different teams the past 4 years and was an offensive coordinator for 2 different teams before that, including winning a state championship
does your Pops take any profit?
It is his money after all.
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just sold the andover hall i had advertised so now do to 20...just an fyi
WHY NO
PA OR NY BABIES
THE NY SIRES PROG PRETTY GOOD.
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does your Pops take any profit?
It is his money after all.
yes...we are 50 50
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HIGH SCHOOL COACH THATS GREAT
DIDI U SUE THE STABLE
HOW THEY PAYIN SIX FIGURES
JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND
high school now
before that i worked for temple football and coached at widener football. but as the stable grew i didnt have time to coach in college anymore
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WHY NO
PA OR NY BABIES
THE NY SIRES PROG PRETTY GOOD.
pay attention,,, he said that he don't do stakes.
please keep up
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Jerry Silva only owns 10 to 15% of all his horses,,,,whatas your point
THE GUYS LOADED JOE
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high school now
before that i worked for temple football and coached at widener football. but as the stable grew i didnt have time to coach in college anymore
Temple?
The TOP Harness Jew Taylor got a law degree there.
tmbz1
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HEY PURP
CAN U LIST ALL YOUR HORSES PLS
I WANNA PUT THEM IN MY VIRTUAL STABLE SO I CAN BET AND FOLLOW YOUR HORSES
YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE FOR HORSE FLESH
HEZ FOLLOWING PATTERNS THIS YEAR
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pay attention,,, he said that he don't do stakes.
please keep up
SORRY
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HEZ FOLLOWING PATTERNS THIS YEAR
IM FOLLOWIN A PATTERN MYSELF NOW
,,THE RIOTERS SEEM TO BE COMING TOWARDS LUCPARKS HOUSE AND YARD
HOLY FCK
,,IM CALLING MAYOR GRADY WILSON
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Hey, is that the Grady from “Sanford And Son”?
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Grady Wilson,,,, That’s a classic
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You dumb fuck...that's not him...no wonder they were dumping piss on the ground at the Saratoga
Harness testing barn...it was on your watch !! That's why 11.dt
Hey, B Ryan, lay off. I might not be the brightest guy in the world. Never claimed to be. But at least no one ever said this about me: “He’s lucky his Father was born before was”. And, BTW , why don’t you buy a tie that at least approaches your bellybutton. You look like some dumb ass 5th grader on picture day.
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johann looked good today...
could he big the flagship?
is it sad that out of 600 horses a 59 trotter is holding the flag??
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thought knockdown dragout was good yesterday
and purple he drove them the way you like, taken back and finishing strong
i guess amac was listening to you ...LOL!!
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It’s 600 now? What happened to 500?
for anyone who actually cares, they’ve bought around 250. not 500 or 600
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johann looked good today...
could he big the flagship?
is it sad that out of 600 horses a 59 trotter is holding the flag??
why are you so focused on time - one day its about the last quarters, the next time its about the time of the mile - whatever spin you can make on negativity towards this guy, you drum it up. and now its 600, 3 pages ago it was 500 and any horse no longer in the stable doesnt count - /\
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why are you so focused on time - one day its about the last quarters, the next time its about the time of the mile - whatever spin you can make on negativity towards this guy, you drum it up. and now its 600, 3 pages ago it was 500 and any horse no longer in the stable doesnt count - /\
He's adding 4 years together.
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He's adding 4 years together.
its been 600 over all the years
and if you want me to shuit up stop defending it
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its been 600 over all the years
and if you want me to shuit up stop defending it
We knew you were adding them up. Was tryna help son...... tmbz1
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It’s been in the 250 range since it started, probably less.
not 500
not 600
it’s been going for 5 years
The first 2 years were 20 each = 40
the third year was 40... stay with me. Now we’re at 80
the last 2 years were around 60 each
I know your phone has a calculator and I know it doesn’t say 500 or 600
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Anthony has been straight up from the get go. A way for people to get involved in a sport. I don't recall him pitching it as a profit venture.
Like anything else in business, it is market driven. Anyone who buys in does so with full disclosure.
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It’s been in the 250 range since it started, probably less.
not 500
not 600
it’s been going for 5 years
The first 2 years were 20 each = 40
the third year was 40... stay with me. Now we’re at 80
the last 2 years were around 60 each
I know your phone has a calculator and I know it doesn’t say 500 or 600
You are so full of shit.
Ill bet you 10k dollars it was more than 40 each of the last 2 years.
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Anthony has been straight up from the get go. A way for people to get involved in a sport. I don't recall him pitching it as a profit venture.
Like anything else in business, it is market driven. Anyone who buys in does so with full disclosure.
Hes not straight up.
Just because he says dont do this for profit dies not mean he is straight up.
His bills are still higher than he says they will be, and he overprommises a hirses ability wayyyyy more then most trainers, and thats saying something
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Well Purple , you have the direct experience so, I respect your opinion. It would stand to reason a person such as yourself, a person with years of sole ownership of horses, thestable.ca is not for you. Then again , it was never directed at you. It was always more of a marketing scheme to attract the fan into ownership at low risk. A way for breeders to off load their stock that did not sell at auction. It is probably the least likely way to a champion and profits.
Good luck in this abbreviated season.
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Well Purple , you have the direct experience so, I respect your opinion. It would stand to reason a person such as yourself, a person with years of sole ownership of horses, thestable.ca is not for you. Then again , it was never directed at you. It was always more of a marketing scheme to attract the fan into ownership at low risk. A way for breeders to off load their stock that did not sell at auction. It is probably the least likely way to a champion and profits.
Good luck in this abbreviated season.
Does he still owe the yearling sales money from last fall?
Or just the breeders?
Or both?
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im mad at Anthony
im mad at Anthony
im mad at Anthony
he kicked me out
he kicked me out
he kicked me out
I will never stop stalkin his stable
I will never stop stalking his stable
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Well Purple , you have the direct experience so, I respect your opinion. It would stand to reason a person such as yourself, a person with years of sole ownership of horses, thestable.ca is not for you. Then again , it was never directed at you. It was always more of a marketing scheme to attract the fan into ownership at low risk. A way for breeders to off load their stock that did not sell at auction. It is probably the least likely way to a champion and profits.
Good luck in this abbreviated season.
you make a good point, its not for me
and i only got into it because i dont do yearlings on my own,
but being mislead is being mislead and i dont appreciate that in business or elsewhere..
and thank you for the kind words. qualifiying today. racing friday and saturday!!!!!
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you were not mislead
u thought u had something that u didn't
and when horse didn't progress
u bitched and complained
and cried u got mislead and cheated
thew baby game may not be for you joshie
stick to claimers at freehold
oops that's not for you either
you complain when u get beat there too tmbz1 tmbz1
I know I know you gonna shoulder me .
truth hurts doesn't it joshie
..baby game is hard
I know ive lost million in it my self
pls let me know if I can help you feel better
stick to cheap horse and make a profit ngc3
that's what best for you at this point joshie
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exporter you are correct in how and why the stable was set up
as with any sport/entertainmnet venture the people will stop if they dont feel they get value for their entertainment dollars
same goes for sports teams, what happens when teams stink for a number of years in a row, fans stop going,
this is similar, you need a few horse to step up and make some money
people will pay for the entertainmnet for a while but if they are in on a few horses and they dont race competitvely than there is not much fun in that
thats the only way for any business like this to retain customers, there just is not enough new people now wanting to step into this , hence the reason so many shares of yearlings went unsold
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Brown Jug correct and Exporter yes your right. As Brown Jug explains if your going to sell entertainment you still need a business plan to keep and attract new clients. Knowing your base and how much your base is willing to add year after year. If the theory is I can't buy the 40-50k horses and focus on the 15-20k to find the ones that fall through the crack. Your spending say 1.0mln on 50 horses let's say those shares get bought. What's the difference buying 20 horses at 50k. It's the same outflow just higher price per share. What the business plan won't say in public it benefits short term having 50 training bills a month then 20. Also means less chance % of the 20 picked out won't hit vs having 50
..even if less quality. What's the difference telling a owner you won a SS race or the lower stake in different jurisdiction. It's still sold as a stake win? Your buying yearlings and there is no guarantee at what price level your going to succeed at but if your buying 50k yearlings by the end of its 2 yr old season that said horse needs to make 100k or close to break even. If you bought one for 15k with less expectations and less staking maybe breakeven is 40k? While selling entertainment you still need to meet some type of bottom lines and there average on bottom lines not good. That's what hurts the theory of entertainment...h ow many times will you see a bad movie? Also not one businessman would allow 2,000 shares sit out in the open through April. 1,300 sit open June 1. While all those shares may not be the stable no one in this business would let the client get 7 or 8 months to decide if the product is good or bad. They are animals and at most times they will look ordinary or bad. It's a bad precedent and I'm sure things will be different come the fall when it's time to buy again. To much exposure.
Whether one thinks the stable is good or bad getting people into the sport is good. But I think what lies in question is the type of horses that get bought when the owner/buyer says in open he knows nothing about pedigree. Reads the black type off the page for two or three generations like it will transfer into the current horse. There are few right answers buying yearlings because you can't really know if the horse has heart to be a racehorse.
If one wanted to get people into the game why not claim horses, pay for a young horse in the conditions, or buy yearlings after a qualifier, race or 2. Something already made and not hope and prayers. A longer process but shows more profit and makes more sense then having over 100 training bills on marginally horses that will never make its cost. Otherwise it's flawed from keeping owners and attracting new owners. After two poor years new owners will say enough or buy way less. The other flaw is you can only sell shares to get out to other clients. Usually a dump job while the horse doesn't hit a sale unless the stable directs it there. Anyone in the yearling game knows it takes money and it's a losing proposition that maybe on average 12-14% make money as a whole.
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In summary, Horses First, I share your bottom line. The song that got them to the dance will not be the one that keeps them there. The plan going forward will need tweaking.
Once again, I applaud him on his inital efforts and platform he created.
If Anthony was to have a equity share in each partnership, something paying cash for 25% and thestable.com funding the 75% at the same value as his 25%. He needs credibility and skin in the game to further this business.
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You are so full of shit.
Ill bet you 10k dollars it was more than 40 each of the last 2 years.
I said the last 2 years were around 60 each
SIXTY EACH YEAR ROUGHLY
should I start using Roman numerals?
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I said the last 2 years were around 60 each
SIXTY EACH YEAR ROUGHLY
should I start using Roman numerals?
Don't use Roman numerals. You will lose the guy.
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Does he still owe the sales companies money?
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Does he still owe the sales companies money?
You already asked that.
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Wiggles I can't imagine that's even possible that Lexington or Harrisburg would allow. I would think someone has had to back that? The increase in price from monthly training and stake payments, I would believe that has to come from his pocket? Paying staff and want not. It's not like it's a public company so your never going to know the details.
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PURPLE - no comment on this one - all the things you were critiquing on the other horses qualifying
good time - good last quarter ?
let me guess - you dont like the fact he two moved her
1 MILE, TROT.
QUALIFYING RACE - 3 YEAR OLDS
Last
Horse HV PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Stretch Finish Time 1/4 Driver Odds Trainer
7 Globetrotting= 7 1/3 2/3 2/1T 1/H 1/4T 1:56.1 28.3 A Macdonald NB J Mcginnis
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good mile
done a nice job with this one
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PURPLE - no comment on this one - all the things you were critiquing on the other horses qualifying
good time - good last quarter ?
let me guess - you dont like the fact he two moved her
1 MILE, TROT.
QUALIFYING RACE - 3 YEAR OLDS
Last
Horse HV PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Stretch Finish Time 1/4 Driver Odds Trainer
7 Globetrotting= 7 1/3 2/3 2/1T 1/H 1/4T 1:56.1 28.3 A Macdonald NB J Mcginnis
i didnt see you mention alesund or rose run versatile
guess they arent flagships...
or anything close to what hes been hyping them up to be
but i promiose you that the break will be commented on as a "little" break
still waiting for the first real break that isnt a "little" break
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WHO CARES ABOUT THE FAGSHIP?
YOU LOST
AND
GOT TOSSED
THEY NEEDED/WANTED PARTNERS ON OVER 600 HORSES WHILE YOU WERE AROUND AND YOU UP AND GOT SENT PACKING? WTF IS THAT? CRYING I BET....U BEEN PROTESTING MORE THAN A PRIVILEDGED WHITE KID AROUND HERE...DO YOU EVER GET ANY SLEEP?
VOTE FOR SLEEPY JOE ngc3
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Globetrotting was there one and only bright spot of 75 two year olds purchased last year. Any quick math on 1 100k earner of 75? She is a nice horse but who cares it's only entertainment correct? So 3/4 of 1% should mean much
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Globetrotting was there one and only bright spot of 75 two year olds purchased last year. Any quick math on 1 100k earner of 75? She is a nice horse but who cares it's only entertainment correct? So 3/4 of 1% should mean much
would you consider all 3 of his that made the filly trot final last year a bright spot? if it was 3 (maybe it was 2) ?
really, any that made over X dollars is a bright spot ?
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allow me to inject a little perspective
as i have said the truth is somewhere inbetween and at the end of the day it all comes down to the horses performance
but please remember you dont judge a horse success/failure on their 2 yr old year alone
different stables are like cars, some people drive a chrysler and some drive a bmw
if you go buying at the chrysler stable you have a pretty good idea of what you are likely to get
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allow me to inject a little perspective
as i have said the truth is somewhere inbetween and at the end of the day it all comes down to the horses performance
but please remember you dont judge a horse success/failure on their 2 yr old year alone
different stables are like cars, some people drive a chrysler and some drive a bmw
if you go buying at the chrysler stable you have a pretty good idea of what you are likely to get
I once owned an AMC AMX - you wont hold that against me I hope
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WHO CARES ABOUT THE FAGSHIP?
YOU LOST
AND
GOT TOSSED
THEY NEEDED/WANTED PARTNERS ON OVER 600 HORSES WHILE YOU WERE AROUND AND YOU UP AND GOT SENT PACKING? WTF IS THAT? CRYING I BET....U BEEN PROTESTING MORE THAN A PRIVILEDGED WHITE KID AROUND HERE...DO YOU EVER GET ANY SLEEP?
VOTE FOR SLEEPY JOE ngc3
u must be a trump fan because u beleive the lies and call the truth fake
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of course not
the key wording was you said "once owned" not "currently own "
LOL!!
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u must be a trump fan because u beleive the lies and call the truth fake
AMAC IS ANTIFA?
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of course not
the key wording was you said "once owned" not "currently own "
LOL!!
my friend - if i still owned that car, the amount I could sell it for - I could go partners with Purple on a horse - of course we'd argue about who is in charge of managing the horse and he'd be instructing Dave Miller on how to drive it, but everything else would be aok.
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u must be a trump fan because u beleive the lies and call the truth fake
He is a fan of the Pumpkin
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He is a fan of the Pumpkin
I'm white and priviledged,
vote for Sleepy Joe tmbz1
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I don't vote but,,,ANYONE BESIDES TRUMP
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Real doctor maybe one of those not the third. More or less they came limping into the final and were not a factor. One was a decent horse the other a also ran.
Brown Jug no you don't judge success failure solely on the 2 or old season but this is a game that cost doesn't stop once they finish that 2 yr old season. You can tact on another 45k to the also rans or non starters at 2. The hole only gets bigger if that 3 year old year isnt a complete 180.
The industry however does treat 2 and 3 yr old years for a sire. Also the % that make 50k and that make 100k. That's the standard. If there was a sire batting .075 with 100k earnings I can guarantee that sire won't be breeding many. This game is all about stats, money, success or lack of success. I know the orginal arguement of getting people in the game but I'm just being realistic on the numbers. Maybe many have really good 3 yr old seasons and then these numbers can be viewed as positive.
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my friend - if i still owned that car, the amount I could sell it for - I could go partners with Purple on a horse - of course we'd argue about who is in charge of managing the horse and he'd be instructing Dave Miller on how to drive it, but everything else would be aok.
i never ever EVER tell a driver how to drive a horse
all ill say is " the horse is good" or "lets see what happens"
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knockdown dragout
was selling at a rate of a 250,000 dollar horse
easy fractions on the lead tonight in a nw2 and doesnt get a check
going to be some unhappy people on this one
flag at half mast
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knockdown dragout
was selling at a rate of a 250,000 dollar horse
easy fractions on the lead tonight in a nw2 and doesnt get a check
going to be some unhappy people on this one
flag at half mast
$650+ per share +HST
No earnings since July 2019
Training bills since then though....
Second quarter in 30.1
Middle half of 59.4
Backed through them in the stretch
Not good for advertising
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$650+ per share +HST
No earnings since July 2019
Training bills since then though....
Second quarter in 30.1
Middle half of 59.4
Backed through them in the stretch
Not good for advertising
thats 650 per share nowwwwww
was 2500 per share this time last year
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LOOKING LIKE A PYRAMID SCHEME
,,I MITE HAVE BEEN WRONG ABOUT THE STABLE
IM DISSAPOINTED IN MYSELF AND SOME PEOPLE'
TRYIN TO FLEECE
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Owners wanted a new set of hands and after months of training Ake sent her back. Showed no heart last night. Could just be the SK way?
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amongst other things be very concerned if you own any Sebastian k , so far they are not good anywhere
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That is correct a lot of them are hot. Broadway Hall had issues like that with babies but at least some of them where very fast. Just had to handle them a bit differently. But yes the early talent of SK babies much to the lacking. But SK himself never raced at 2 or 3 in Europe and was a outstanding older horse.
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I was just lookng at the stats of the stables horses for the past few years, only one making money is the CEO. Which is fine as all those penny donators are having fun.
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500 horses
Maybe 4 good ones right now
Mismanagement
Over promising
How does a 250k horse end up not getting checks nw2?
Well winnjng a baby race by 30 lenghts to pump up price and expectations and burning them out early doesnt help
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you lose credibility when you say 500 horses
when it’s clearly less than half of that
when you exaggerate by over 100% it’s hard for people to take you seriously. try dialing it down a bit if you’re looking for anyone to begin to take you seriously
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LOOK AT HIS TRAINERS,,,,,,,DISSASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN
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LOOK AT HIS TRAINERS,,,,,,,DISSASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN
JOSHUA TREE HAS HAD AT LEAST 10
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THOSE TRAINERS HAVENT BEEN RELEVENT SINCE 2000
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THOSE TRAINERS HAVENT BEEN RELEVENT SINCE 2000
CHEAP LABOR AND BAD DEALS?
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Most expensive thing,,,,,cheap help
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JOSHUA TREE HAS HAD AT LEAST 10
just on 2019 ;D ;D
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just on 2019 ;D ;D
THATS TERRIBLE ngc3
JOSHUA HAS THE RECORD THEN
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THATS TERRIBLE ngc3
JOSHUA HAS THE RECORD THEN
Josh says he outbids lucpark every sale,,,,I saw the video
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you lose credibility when you say 500 horses
when it’s clearly less than half of that
when you exaggerate by over 100% it’s hard for people to take you seriously. try dialing it down a bit if you’re looking for anyone to begin to take you seriously
Ok...300 horses
I think i overestimated the good ones also.
Its 1....globetrottin g
So youve made things worse
I at least gave u credit for 1 out of 100.befire
Now its 1 out of 300..
Dont talk about descreditimg me
Thats a losing battle for you
Ive been in the racing game 25 years
Abs been In the stable and seen how it works.
I race is every jurisdiction thete is.
The best thing for youbto do is quiet down and start lookimg for a new job befire the other grooms do because after this summer its all over
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Ok...300 horses
I think i overestimated the good ones also.
Its 1....globetrottin g
So youve made things worse
I at least gave u credit for 1 out of 100.befire
Now its 1 out of 300..
Dont talk about descreditimg me
Thats a losing battle for you
Ive been in the racing game 25 years
Abs been In the stable and seen how it works.
I race is every jurisdiction thete is.
The best thing for youbto do is quiet down and start lookimg for a new job befire the other grooms do because after this summer its all over
GROOMS WILL STILL BE WORKING FOR A MACDONALD JUST NOT WITH A PITCHFORK
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Ok...300 horses
I think i overestimated the good ones also.
Its 1....globetrottin g
So youve made things worse
I at least gave u credit for 1 out of 100.befire
Now its 1 out of 300..
Dont talk about descreditimg me
Thats a losing battle for you
Ive been in the racing game 25 years
Abs been In the stable and seen how it works.
I race is every jurisdiction thete is.
The best thing for youbto do is quiet down and start lookimg for a new job befire the other grooms do because after this summer its all over
Breh,
I watched your video on the Youtube.
Is it too late to take it down?
You look awful.
And sound worse.
If anybody told you that it was good, run away from them.
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Breh,
I watched your video on the Youtube.
Is it too late to take it down?
You look awful.
And sound worse.
If anybody told you that it was good, run away from them.
Looked trashed. Even a bad haircut couldn't help.
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Looked trashed. Even a bad haircut couldn't help.
Can't he pilfer a measly couple thousand more from his Pops to get cleaned up?
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Looked trashed. Even a bad haircut couldn't help.
i rely on and assicate with people with my mind not with my haircut
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i rely on and assicate with people with my mind not with my haircut
YOU DRESS LIKE GURAL
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i rely on and assicate with people with my mind not with my haircut
You slay any pussy with that strategy?
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You slay any pussy with that strategy?
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Lucpark gets a haircut every time he play the Horses ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Lucpark gets a haircut every time he play the Horses ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
GETS TRIMMED ngc3
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lots of baby races tom for the stable
should be interetsting
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18 babies total qualifying tom at mohawk
11 of them are from thestable.com
if this doesnt scream what a disaster the stable is nothing does
MORE THAN HALF of the horses are anthonys....
and you guys wonder why i destroy this guy for mismanagment
is it just a conicidence??
or is he pushing his babies too hard to boost the sales price??
hmmmmmm
the numbers dont like...
how come he has so many ready already when no one else does????
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http://ustrottingnews.com/two-year-old-preview-show-wednesday-on-cosa-tv/
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18 babies total qualifying tom at mohawk
11 of them are from thestable.com
the numbers dont like...
how come he has so many ready already when no one else does????
BURKE BRIGADE
HAD 20 OR SO BABIES IN AT GAITWAY OTHER DAY
WAS IT TO EARLY FOR HIM TOO
CAN U GIVE HIM ADVICE TOO
CAN U HELP HIM MANAGE HORSES TOO ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ANTHONY THru U OUT CAN U JUST ADMIT
,,KICKED TO THE CURB..like a wet butterfly ngc3 ngc3
AND YOUR BITTER
AND IT HURT AND STINGS
I KNOW I FELL FOR U joshie tmbz1
stop stalking anthonys horses
worry about yours,,
pls this is borderline
INSANITY ,,what wrong with you Joshua
get help
ANTHONY IN YOUR HEAD tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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This is about the time babys q. Nothing wrong there happening at many tracks this week
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BURKE BRIGADE
HAD 20 OR SO BABIES IN AT GAITWAY OTHER DAY
WAS IT TO EARLY FOR HIM TOO
CAN U GIVE HIM ADVICE TOO
CAN U HELP HIM MANAGE HORSES TOO ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ANTHONY THru U OUT CAN U JUST ADMIT
,,KICKED TO THE CURB..like a wet butterfly ngc3 ngc3
AND YOUR BITTER
AND IT HURT AND STINGS
I KNOW I FELL FOR U joshie tmbz1
stop stalking anthonys horses
worry about yours,,
pls this is borderline
INSANITY ,,what wrong with you Joshua
get help
ANTHONY IN YOUR HEAD tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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ijit cant see that he trains 'em hard like alot of them do. They gonna be ready. ;D
JOSHUA GARNSEY
HIS BEAK GOT HIM BOOTED AND HE STILL WONT BE QUIET 73cv.2
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Burke had 2.1 million worth of babies at Gaitway Monday
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Burke had 2.1 million worth of babies at Gaitway Monday
RAY CHARLES COULD WIN A FEW Q RACES WITH ALL THOSE
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This is about the time babys q. Nothing wrong there happening at many tracks this week
you are using flawed logic...
there are 18 ...12 of them are the stables
so its not time for all of them
its time for a select few who have done it the right way
if more than half the horses baby racing are yours then you are pushing yours too hard
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No it's the use of a calendar. Five or six tracks this week have baby q's. This week off a week back with another q. Possibly one start into a sire race or a step below stake depending the jurisdiction. No flaws there. I haven't looked but believe ONT starts there gold series later then the states so maybe majority of those ONT babies still have calendar saying not time to q yet.
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you are using flawed logic...
there are 18 ...12 of them are the stables
so its not time for all of them
its time for a select few who have done it the right way
if more than half the horses baby racing are yours then you are pushing yours too hard
I think you need to look at the jurisdiction for the horses - since Ohio starts early in July and its June 12th, when did you want him to QUA them? The first legs are three weeks away. Same thing on PA schedule (although subject to change). maybe 4 are Ontario breds.
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I think you need to look at the jurisdiction for the horses - since Ohio starts early in July and its June 12th, when did you want him to QUA them? The first legs are three weeks away. Same thing on PA schedule (although subject to change). maybe 4 are Ontario breds.
Perhaps you have a point about jurisdiction
But thr breeding on this years crop is horrible.
Would be shocked if sny end up good
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https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/6-10-20/june-11-mohawk-qualifiers.html
Link to the qualifiers which start momentarily & programs.
Personally , my favourite time of the year is watching the next generation start qualifying.
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Perhaps you have a point about jurisdiction
But thr breeding on this years crop is horrible.
Would be shocked if sny end up good
You told us a couple days ago you don't buy babies.
Now you're an expert.
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You told us a couple days ago you don't buy babies.
Now you're an expert.
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Breeding applies to all racehorses not just babies
And yes i know pedigree
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He will blame the head wind today at Mohawk.
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The one that broke and ran the stretch at the start made a "little break" im sure
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Their highest paid yearling
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Their highest paid yearling
An uncle Peter ngc3 ngc3
And 15k for a father patrick so everyone can say the own a father patrick.
Pulling out all thecstops
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You told us a couple days ago you don't buy babies.
Now you're an expert.
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And yes i know pedigree
you know everyhting until its time to raise your hand and sign the sold slip at babies sales
pls hush up
anthony got u so mad...
you got escorted out of his barn
its like dating a model and getting dumped and then finding
shes turned gay because you could not satisfy her
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Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?
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Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?
Why lower the level of discourse with this Cheap Heat?
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Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?
Purple know a lot ,,,100%fact
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Why sell a horse just qualified
Hmmmmmm
Someones getting a problem horse
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Luc wood neva do that
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Why sell a horse just qualified
Hmmmmmm
Someones getting a problem horse
YOU KEEP YOURS AND CRY OR DAD WOULD KILL YOU tmbz1
AMAC CONFIRMED YOU WERE KINDA A TOOL AROUND THE BARN AND WE LET IT GO AT THAT.....JOSHUA, HE SAID OTHER STUFF, BUT THAT'S HOW HE ROLLS. I'M NOT GONNA RAT YOU OUT.
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Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?
she has not developed into sires material
had her 2 yrs
my goal every yr to have a few that can show sires material talent
and try to race in sires program,
when they dont they get sold
,,shes sound.. just not racing to my standards..
shes for sale ,on gait,,
i had her full brother ,,JUST N ACE..3rd in superfinal in 17made over 200k,
we wish new buyer whom ever it is.. great fortune
shes paid into ,,few series and indy sires..
i never lie,,,and shes sound as can be
see joshua ,,
thats how the game is played ,not bitch or blame trainer or cry u got cheated
..just move on to next horse..
and next baby sale,,
you just cant seem to blame your self
its always someone elses fault
later ,,joshie
im try to tan in the pool
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$192,500 worth of two year old trotters qualified today
Any shares left on that swirl horse?
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$192,500 worth of two year old trotters qualified today
Any shares left on that swirl horse?
what makes you put a horse on the track that can only go 209?
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what makes you put a horse on the track that can only go 209?
.....asked to leave the barn
smh :P
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nancy allison ....
pacing up to the gate
i wonder why these horse come back so bad at 3
on a sidenote someone else posted a fb memory of the 2018 baby races from the stable...
14 of the 15 ended up amished within 2 years
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path of totality in super easy....
suprised 25 to 1...
you already know amac is sending her
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path of totality in super easy....
suprised 25 to 1...
you already know amac is sending her
wellthats why she was 30 to 1
another amish future
but look at her lines for last year
first at the quater
first at the quarter
first at the quarter
cant send these things like that
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the title of this thread needs to be amended to a strong factor at the canadian b tracks
no shows at the big stage
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and good old bottle of red gets brutalized again off 3 months ....
its a shame
this one probably had some talent and heart but will be ruined in no tiem
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purple on fire tonight
got all the ammunition he needs
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well lets see....
he sent 20 horses to the races today and the owners got a 1 check
a fourth
but 20 shipping fees at 120 a pop even though its only two trips for the shipper
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The 2 year olds that have the breeder still listed as the owner, are they the ones he hasn’t paid for yet? But selling shares on them?
$300K+ in two year olds qualifying today at Mohawk
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as usual, everything in the post is factually incorrect.
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as usual, everything in the post is factually incorrect.
ok donald trump
fake news,
but no corrections
got it
did you find a new job yet?
going to be ALOT of unhappy owners shortly
NO MONEY COMING IN!!!!
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as usual, everything in the post is factually incorrect.
ANTHONY....HE'S MAD YOU TOSSED HIM
BUT THE NUMBERS ARE GRIM tmbz1
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ANTHONY....HE'S MAD YOU TOSSED HIM
BUT THE NUMBERS ARE GRIM tmbz1
i left when i saw the direction the stable was heading
that was back when he had well bred horses
he couldnt pay me enough now to manage the slugs the have now
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i left when i saw the direction the stable was heading
that was back when he had well bred horses
he couldnt pay me enough now to manage the slugs the have now
YOUR STORY HOLDS WATER...NUMBERS DONT LIE tmbz1
YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE WORKED SOMETHING OUT VS GETTING ESCORTED OUT OF THE BARN MAYBE.
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The topic again to start will be the head wind to lead off the list of excuses. While they have had a handful of good trotters just one hand...have they had anything more then a mediocre pacer?
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Swandre, other then the entertainment so called value, 800 clients whether all participant at this point in time, and the displeasure of one past unsatisfied owner what possible factual statements can you make? 5 years in the ability to spend money how see fit. The factual numbers are horrible and yes with over 300 head bought a blind squirrel can find a few good nuts. Say if they had 15 good horses over time that's 5%. Even by industry standards that is really low. So due tell give us your factual side to the stable - entertainment which is a copout. Because down deep he knows he needs results to buy yearlings. If it was about sole entertainment and a step into the doors for a owner go out and buy some really nice claimer that are made and race week after week for entertainment value? Buy a nice 2 yr old after qualifiers for SS or GC. Many ways to go about instead of a 125 plus also rans with a handful of potential.
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the industry is trying to right itself after the covid and the cheat scandal
I think it is safe to assume that the fall sales are going to be trying at best
given the amount of unsold shares currently it will be difficult for all but especially the stable to "buy" anything , might be taking a lot on consignment next year
june 12 qualifiers are nice but just the start of a long journey up or down
realistically if you have a horse that earns $100 k at the end of their 3 yr old year you can consider that a success( I understand that depends on what you paid but that aside 100k earners is a small % )
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Well sales will be off and if it's a 25% decrease consignments will gladly take that given the current situation while reaping higher prices the past few years. Most would accept this as a one year blimp on any business front. Whether that is the case no one has that answer. You can bet the stable will be unloading a majority of three year olds that they held over. You can bet the leash will be short on unproven 2 yr olds unless they decide to keep what is paid for and not pursue a large number of 2 year olds. But given the discount be sure they rather try and buy potential to sell then mediocre 2 yr old performance.
As with the current situation of more cases as more testing is being done the propaganda machine is up and stoking the high cases and back to work. While not speaking of new cases and low to few new deaths. But that doesn't fit a agenda. Nor does science saying recently the virus is dying off and has had to mutate itself to stay alive being in the form of a cough or low grade fever. If this is the case over the summer months more people infected more people immune to spread down the road.
Also what doesn't fit the propaganda machine is the super spreaders in the streets for weeks. A month ago it was taboo to be out saying open up we what to go back to work. They were vilified. Mum on the protesters spreading
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the worst part is he is getting more and more greedy
as he started to fail he bought more and more bad horses
this years crop is truly disgusting...
again
120 6 to 20k yearlings is only good for amac
40 40 to 50k yearlings would have been much better for the owners and business
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couple of good babies today 1 qualified in 58 and change
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i dont mean to kick a guy when he is down but stonebridge symba racing for 3200 this week
even if he wins that doesnt cover the weeks bills
another one he should have taken my offer on
but then he would have only gotten 119 training bills instead of 120
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it’s a real mystery as to why he wouldn’t sell you a horse 😂
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Globe trotting wins leg of pho
Sires
Nice job Anthony
And Joshua still mad u can’t play with the stable ngc3
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THE GUY IS A TOTAL DISASTER
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anthony mac is a winner
can we just say it
,,u to joshie
..be happy for the guy will yah
hes makin big money
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it’s a real mystery as to why he wouldn’t sell you a horse 😂
you are only adding to the bullshit
basically you are saying he will put his own ego and vendetta against doing the right thing for the partnership and profit?
no wonder youve never gone anywhwere in life
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yes , globtrotting looked good although EXTREMELY hard used from the nine hole
not the way id want to kick off the season
sad that the whole stable revlolves around 1 horse now
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Stop. Hard way to race first starts ngc3 ngc3
It’s sires
U hater
It’s a sires stakes race
Gosh. Josh
You a hater dude
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yes , globtrotting looked good although EXTREMELY hard used from the nine hole
not the way id want to kick off the season
sad that the whole stable revlolves around 1 horse now
second slowest opening quarter on the entire card ? two steps off the gate she was in the 4 path, maybe hard used for 1/8 -
Wrenn left in 27.2 with his trotting filly in another division from the 9 hole - full second faster or harder, whichever you prefer.
soon that group will be down to 2 divisions - the rest into the buckeye or whatever its called -
thought his other filly raced well for only second start of the year -
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Granted, Globetrotting is the best horse in the stable....care to tell everyone who is 2 and 3????? Good Luck
Now or after we see what the 2 year olds they have are like?
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Former stable "superstar" maitainance man was an all out furth in a bottom racecat Hawthorne.
Another horee being sold at 6 figures
Sounds like crickets forv2nd and third brst horse
Normally there are lots of suggestions and its hard to cut when yiu make lists...i guess not this time...
But that didsnt stop amac from making top ten 2 yr lists in January
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Id say yes would be 2
If he ever races again
3 would be the filly that finished 3rd tonight in the ss
4th would be the 2 yr chapter seven that won yesterday
You couldn't give me the rest of the horses for free
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Sunshine n shade looked like he miggt be a good one lastvyear...
But alas, raced too hard
Quit like a pig off easy fractiins on the leas last week, tonghight got distanced and put on the list...
Seems to be a pattern here...
Hence me commenting about how he has too many ready right now...
I've said all i have to say...it will all play out now.
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opening weekend of nationwide racing and baby racing
not a peep from the stable
so much for making noise everywhere huh luc?
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so much for making noise everywhere huh luc?
PROB SAVIN HIS BEST ONES FOR LAST
THATS HOW MOST HALL OF FAMERS DO IT
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so brushcut isnt a good one then???
came home 33 seconds in a nw1 last night
a pacer...
they started him twice right of the bat in NYSS last year
sooooooo many mistakes mismanaging...
just another ruined horse
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there has been more disasters than good results of late especially for 3 yr olds
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Its a joke. Anthony used his political skills to basically scam everyone in a professional manner.
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there has been more disasters than good results of late especially for 3 yr olds
hes bought 400 horses the last 3 years and is still resorting to posting pictures of 2 year olds training as the weekend highlights...
i dont mean to kick a horse when he is down but this is just for all the people that have been battling me the last year when ive been trying to sound the alarm
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Can we stop with the inflated yearling numbers past three years might top 200. The story is bad doesn't need to be ultra fake. The problems early on stemming from last year 2 year olds the ones that barely raced or just were average at best are just bad at 3. Horses need to improve if your paying top bills for a nw1 at a C track that's a MAJOR issue. The client needs to understand that horse will be out 70k after its 3 year old season not counting whatever it cost. The stable has a ton of these types and clients can't shouldn't be that clueless? The only problem or major problem with the stable they only get sold when AM decided to put them in a sale. Sure clients can sell shares on line within the stable but who is dumb enough to buy junk? Sure the three OH fillies raced well on Friday but they had some ability at 2 and we have credited Globetrotting as a nice horse. 1 of 75 or so purchased as a yearling. The blind squirrel theory. The balance are cheap horses perceived by the CEO as having pedigree because of black type in a book. That is your major issue buying into yearlings on this theory. There is no basis....
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as a general rule you get what you pay for at the sales
thats not to say the odd inexpensive one cant jump up and do well but odds are against that
when a 3/4 brother to vegas vacation sells for $30 k you can assume it is not because others were all getting beers when he went through the ring, he has some confirmation issues
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all smoke and mirrors .
Pushed too hard last year and it ruined the horse..
Then tonight he sends her a million off the gate snd goes on an insane gallop..
Looks good for a 16th then blows up...
Par for the course
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Ake knew something when he sent her back from FL. Stable needs to race at B and C tracks a big O for the win spot couple seconds and a whole lot of missed checks in 20 starts. AM three races burns about 27k of wps of the public money not counting ex and tri. KDDO was acting up post parade which will give AM cover to sprint 4L to the lead.
Wonder if he will brag on q's today since he had a 30mph at their backs in the stretch. Whined enough last week with a 40mph headwind. The guy blames everything but himself the list of excuses are so amusing wonder how much these clients believe?
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If a trainer always told an owner that his horses always sucked he wouldn't have an owner for very long.
The truth hurts but it’s the best
Horses are what they are
Owners appreciate the truth versus lies
I do.
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Ake knew something when he sent her back from FL. Stable needs to race at B and C tracks a big O for the win spot couple seconds and a whole lot of missed checks in 20 starts. AM three races burns about 27k of wps of the public money not counting ex and tri. KDDO was acting up post parade which will give AM cover to sprint 4L to the lead.
Wonder if he will brag on q's today since he had a 30mph at their backs in the stretch. Whined enough last week with a 40mph headwind. The guy blames everything but himself the list of excuses are so amusing wonder how much these clients believe?
I wonder if he will describe the quarter mile all out gallop in his recap as a "little break"
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no arguments
however it is a sebastian k and there are not many of them that have been very good
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Half round...going by the Tony Morgan philosophy of treating owners like mushrooms just keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of shit...isn't the best way to run a rather large stable that appears to focus on cheap yearlings that turn into rather large expense for a 3yr olds racing nw 1, nw 2, and only seem to place well at cheap tracks? He is more a CEO rather then trainer/driver?
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Half round...going by the Tony Morgan philosophy of treating owners like mushrooms just keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of shit...isn't the best way to run a rather large stable that appears to focus on cheap yearlings that turn into rather large expense for a 3yr olds racing nw 1, nw 2, and only seem to place well at cheap tracks? He is more a CEO rather then trainer/driver?
A very poor ceo
Ceos are supposed to think long term
At least tge good ones
And giess what, he is a trump supporter
Of course.
Its what sounds good and zhort term, notvsay what needs to be said, sugarcoat everything, use everything you can to pump up everything then make excuses when it fails, but lose orher peoples koney
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He’s saving money on advertising
Your SC fees are paying for it
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purple
only 6 spelling errors in your short diatribe, improvement
I assume you voted for Hilary
remember there was only two choices Trump or Clinton
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Case in point with this guy whines last week of 40mph headwinds that factored into slower times. No doubt it did as it did for all horses that qualified. Yesterday a good 30 mph wind at that their back produced better times and better last quarters. His first race q had a 28 second last quarter any mention of the wind pushing that time...nope. U would like clients can start smelling the bs by watching and knowing the difference. They aren't newbies anymore.
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Anthony at point in the season has to be upfront with owners
he has a few monsters I heard but for the most
just horses
can his 6 monsters pay for the rest of the also rans
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He may have 6 better then average and sure a few may turn into something better but no 9% or under can't pick up a stable of 60 plus babies with some already on the sidelines. A couple more bust at Mohawk but a C track victory. Everyone gave Nicky loafers no cred for placing horses correctly at Freehold. The stable needs to stick to b and c tracks when racing in ONT. 21 starts and the best finishes so far 3 3rds...ouch
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13 2 year olds Qualifying this morning at Mohawk
8 with no yearling sale prices
7 totalling over $110k
McMaster, Baillargeron, Poulton, Anthony, Amy all listed
Good luck
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rose run versitile made it to ongait..
good luck getting 17k
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A couple of good qualifiers, a few just ok pulled along and passed in the lane for minor spots, and the rest well cut the fat and stop charging the clients on forever nw1. Question then becomes can the couple good ON horses compete in the gold when time to rock with the top ON horses?
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pressure is on for ANTHONY MAC TO PERFORM
I THINBK HES GONNA MAKE A BIG BREAK THRU
I SAW THE QUALIFERS YES A FEW WERE EXCELELNT
THE REST ALSO RANS
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AM keeps placing and driving horses at Mohawk he's going to have a client revolt to sell everything. Mohawk horses=very few checks.
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nothing but a con man. Even the blind squirrel gets a nut now and then. Think of all the stables that start out with the numbers he did, they generally have a couple of decent ones, even the shitty trainers. HE CAN NOT DRIVE, HE IS AN ANCHOR.
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i put very little value in qualifiers at this time, you know he is driving them to look good while others are educating horses
i care more how horses look in october or their 3 yr old year not because they beat 6 other mediocre horses in mid june
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Here's the problem the big trainers Takter, Burke, Millers, Alagna, and any other top yearling purchaser sure they focus on the individual and family. Possible but not unlikely they know nothing about pedigree and let's say it is less they hire the people that do. Or their big owners pay for the information from outlets that provide. AM is on record many of times knowing NOTHING about pedigree and if you mention what a foundation mare and the likes of a group of them you probably get a blank stare. I'm not saying you have to be a scientist along with being a trainer but some knowledge would be helpful. He is also clueless on crosses. Yet during yearling videos and afterward he throws in pedigree that some 12k yearling purchase that everyone backed off on like he knew something. Smh. He goes off blacktype which can be meaningless since most mares over a span will throw 1 or 2 100k individual. But not many more then 2. You have your super mares that will throw a half dozen or more to all different type sires. Blacktype in the 3rd or 4th dam doesn't mean it translate to the current dam. If the affinity between sire and dam isn't there the individual won't be there. One can also get into N Hall and how he ranks yearlings.
With all that said the pompous AM rarely goes off his value menu, takes any advice or real pedigree from a client because he is on the hook. But watch every video they send out before and if purchased after the word pedigree is mentioned by someone that actually admits knowing not a thing about. Many top trainers have a eye on certain individuals and watching videos so not saying every horse bought is factored in having to be a top pedigree the horse still has to have heart and conformation.
AM has thought to out smart 1st day Lex and Harrisburg sale to buying 5 the past couple years like a thorn was found in a haystack. There are reasons smart buyers pass on horses on paper should sell well but don't. One of those I believe did die but the others were non factors. If they paddle that much there was a reason a 50-60k individual sold for 20-25k or less.
Again, I want the stable to work and clients to have a chance but what I've seen the past couple years through transparency the whole thing minus training videos need to be revamped. Starting with buying less horses while buying better quality even at a price. If your spending a 1.0mln on 50 you can spend the same 1.0mln on 20-25 if the clients are willing to buy into that which they seem to have minus this year. The result may or may not change but you can be more honest to clients. Otherwise the transparency makes him more like a salesman or a fraud.
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Horses First..........yo u make a valid point about buying fewer higher quality horses
The only problem is that Anthony doesn't want 25 monthly training bills..........he wants 50-60........that way he lines his pockets
One person makes $$$ at The Stable........AMa c........he had a great run the past few years but I don't think it will last much longer
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A couple of good qualifiers, a few just ok pulled along and passed in the lane for minor spots, and the rest well cut the fat and stop charging the clients on forever nw1. Question then becomes can the couple good ON horses compete in the gold when time to rock with the top ON horses?
right
and this is what he has ad the opportunity to do in the past...
do the right thing....
but instead he will milk ALLL the horses
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Horses First..........yo u make a valid point about buying fewer higher quality horses
The only problem is that Anthony doesn't want 25 monthly training bills..........he wants 50-60........that way he lines his pockets
One person makes $$$ at The Stable........AMa c........he had a great run the past few years but I don't think it will last much longer
this is what i have been saying all along
and this year much worse...
did they really need those 6 to 10 thousand dollar yearlings??? i think they got about 12 of them like that....
but amac got rich off it...
and still pushes his horses too hard and ruins them so that he can "meet the expectations" since he talks them up so much
mismanaged all around
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i put very little value in qualifiers at this time, you know he is driving them to look good while others are educating horses
If history repeats itself the qualifiers are where they peak
i care more how horses look in october or their 3 yr old year not because they beat 6 other mediocre horses in mid june
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Yes was pointing at he would rather spread 50 or more instead of 20-25 because it benefits him most and definitely not clients. The more purchases of cheap unknown yearlings does not help the % of the stable having a good group of horses. We will see shortly that 110 horses or so a 100 of them are pure fat and help only 1 person. I think the clients of 800 should start a protest and start marching against inequality. Why there are 5 that make money and 105 horses don't ngc3
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Why don't people be happy for a guy that is making money legally and bringing new people to the game? Jealousy. 11.wp
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The Stable had a big day with Capistrano & Muscle Chrome, in the Prospect Series
Capistrano was 1st at the half in 58' but struggled a little bit w/back half (106 & piece)
Muscle Chrome jumped off early, little miscue- he will get new shoes & come back strong!
His 3 year olds are atrocious, imagine holding them over to 3 yr old season, giving owners false hope- while being molested.
His kids all have the nicest new clothes & they have big house, new jeep etc.
He has 2 years left max, doing this.
There WILL be excuses when it folds- it'll be "the fans & owners" fault...
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Why don't people be happy for a guy that is making money legally and bringing new people to the game? Jealousy. 11.wp
because he lied and misled me and cost me lots of money?
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The Stable had a big day with Capistrano & Muscle Chrome, in the Prospect Series
Capistrano was 1st at the half in 58' but struggled a little bit w/back half (106 & piece)
Muscle Chrome jumped off early, little miscue- he will get new shoes & come back strong!
His 3 year olds are atrocious, imagine holding them over to 3 yr old season, giving owners false hope- while being molested.
His kids all have the nicest new clothes & they have big house, new jeep etc.
He has 2 years left max, doing this.
There WILL be excuses when it folds- it'll be "the fans & owners" fault...
he got to go to australia...
went to all the sales on the owners dimes
think he went to the carribean twice
i dont think i recall any of my trainers going on vacation....ever. ..
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I just legit talked with a guy that worked for A Mac. I just matter of factly asked him what he thought of the operation. His answer was to the effect: "The guy is clueless and rigs them all the same starting out and whips and slashes them alot."
Not exactly the most eloquent description, but he was the only guy I knew who had first hand info. He lives up there and has been a pal for decades. He aint lyin.....looked after Tarport Crystal among a few other good ones along the way.
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ive noticed his groom swandre isnt here defending him anymore
maybe he took the advice and jumped ship
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ive noticed his groom swandre isnt here defending him anymore
maybe he took the advice and jumped ship
I'll ask...
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A couple of good qualifiers, a few just ok pulled along and passed in the lane for minor spots, and the rest well cut the fat and stop charging the clients on forever nw1. Question then becomes can the couple good ON horses compete in the gold when time to rock with the top ON horses?
If history holds true they peak for qualifiers
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I just legit talked with a guy that worked for A Mac. I just matter of factly asked him what he thought of the operation. His answer was to the effect: "The guy is clueless and rigs them all the same starting out and whips and slashes them alot."
Not exactly the most eloquent description, but he was the only guy I knew who had first hand info. He lives up there and has been a pal for decades. He aint lyin.....looked after Tarport Crystal among a few other good ones along the way.
rigged the same? LOL
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Mazola no jealousy and have said hope it works out for getting clients fractionally into the game. But it's been more sham and legal theft by keeping so many horses that will never get close to breakeven or give a client more then a win photo past nw 2 or 3 if mare. His total lack of regard to what he is actually being spending the client money. But yes legal jealousy hell no
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ive noticed his groom swandre isnt here defending him anymore
maybe he took the advice and jumped ship
😴
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I just legit talked with a guy that worked for A Mac. I just matter of factly asked him what he thought of the operation.
Nice information to know , if true..........but why did you throw your informant under the bus , with details on who he looked after.
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Nice information to know , if true..........but why did you throw your informant under the bus , with details on who he looked after.
You know the guy? He aint worried about goin under any bus as far as that gig went. tmbz1
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well he should start worrying about the amount of fibs he tells because no one changes equipment and shoeing as much as Anthony 😂
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well he should start worrying about the amount of fibs he tells because no one changes equipment and shoeing as much as Anthony 😂
What about the "clueless" remark.? Kinda rude, but I did ask. Does he have a wife? Sadly she went under the bus as well. We been around stables that rig them all the same. It's no big deal. It's making the wrong switches that'll kill ya.
And like the other guy said, they seem to peak for quallies.
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Another bad night with a couple decent finishes but the hype of GW Chrome took a backseat yesterday looking ordinary at best. Could be sick, allergies, bled, mucus, farrier, hopples to tight, hopples to long, all the go to's certainly not the driver or maybe not the trainer who has pumped up this horse. But this Ohio gelding will find a much tougher going weeks to come. Another .80 fav burning of public money.
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I thiught you might say something in defense of the stable and all its achievements but i guess youve smartened up
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I thiught you might say something in defense of the stable and all its achievements but i guess youve smartened up
+ He got flushed but took cover again.
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not amacs fault idiots bet gw chrome to $.80
he drove him correctly as a first time 2 yr old starter against older horses
i guess you would have preferred he blast him to the front in 28 out of the 8 holed and back through the field
just sayin
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Why so much interest in this bust out operation
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Why so much interest in this bust out operation
Folks like to stand around the dumpster fire and jaw it up awhile.
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fair comment
considering 99% of the posts are from people who have no financial interest in the stable
its a free country( well kind of, sort of) and he is doing noting illegal
some of you probably bought pet rocks back in the day and thought they were a great idea
people invest at their own free will
time will tell
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On the contrary Brown Jug I'm sure most of the pool was client money on Chrome as the expectations were high and set by tr/dr himself. No I won't expect that from the 8 hole and AM said race would be a learning experience but he also expected high results. Otherwise just wait and enter another qualifier. He raced 2yr olds last year same spot with wins laying back and brushing. Chrome had NO brush last night and did he learn anything? So expectations were set just not met. Don't shoot the messenger just passing along the circumstances.
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Golfhbm is exactly the largest issue of being trapped. You either have to dump at low prices while not being able to have a voice in moving the horse to a sale or a online sale. Even if you own 50% or more. Its solely at AM digression. Whom among clients are going to buy shares of a horse that looks awful? AM himself ngc3
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if you are any kind of serious handicappeer/gambler and you bet a 2 yr first time trotter out of the 8 hole against older horses you deserve to be seperated from your money
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AM on his video says horse is ready, yes a learning curve in first race, but horse has been hyped for some time a top trot colt in the barn. Doesn't take much at a b track with clients backing the words of AM on Chrome. Novice clients novice wagers? I think u continue to miss the point on how words may tend to overvalue a horse race.
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wish i was wagering on georgian that night, quite sure i would have some extra cash from that race
i read the program not listening to trainers who overate their own horses for the benefit of owners
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When AM has had a few beers and someone asks about those who invested you'll get two words out of him, FUCK EM.
I've heard it myself.
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Brown Jug I agree since these aren't true gamblers. I have cashed some nice tri's tossing his favorites all together and going deep 5 or 6 deep looking for longshots.
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Can other owners, trainers and drivers buy shares?
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I know trainers have
Rene did
Blair burgess
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Burke, Harris and James MacDonald bought into horses too at one point
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Knockdowndragout on the move again. Started the season with Ake. Back to the stable and the stable tr/dr can't deal with the animal and off to Moreau barn.
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Knockdowndragout on the move again. Started the season with Ake. Back to the stable and the stable tr/dr can't deal with the animal and off to Moreau barn.
Moraeu with a special needs trotter?
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Even down under they mismanage horses.
Rokndownunder WAS a nive filly.
Qualified for a big race and was an all out 5th.
A normal stablecwould have shevled her at that point but nope not the stable.
Now shes running behind the gate and ruined already
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Burke, Harris and James MacDonald bought into horses too at one point
Harris and James?
Wouldn’t they be driving other horses in the same races?
Is that against the rules?
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Can other owners, trainers and drivers buy shares?
Yes. I did.
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Are your horses racing against the stable horses that you have purchased shares of?
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Are your horses racing against the stable horses that you have purchased shares of?
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Burke had a piece of The Stable.CA horse maybe a couple years ago. Then Burke took horse with The Stables clients and started training that horse. Then they sold that horse. James bought into one of this years 2 year old at stable. Hasn’t raced yet. If James still on partners on that horse, when the horse races James would probably drive him. Not sure if James still a partner. Mentioning of partners, you don’t get to know your partners on a horse. So no say into anything about a horse you bought into. Imagine you buy 20% into a horse and have no say who trainer is and who drives your horse. That is what I am running into. Mario of all the drivers is who is driving my horse. Already had a couple talks with AMAc about Mario driving last year as my horse is now 3. And yes I am getting out little by little of TheStable.CA. At a loss.
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Are your horses racing against the stable horses that you have purchased shares of?
Not yet, but it's no big deal.
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Burke had a piece of The Stable.CA horse maybe a couple years ago. Then Burke took horse with The Stables clients and started training that horse. Then they sold that horse. James bought into one of this years 2 year old at stable. Hasn’t raced yet. If James still on partners on that horse, when the horse races James would probably drive him. Not sure if James still a partner. Mentioning of partners, you don’t get to know your partners on a horse. So no say into anything about a horse you bought into. Imagine you buy 20% into a horse and have no say who trainer is and who drives your horse. That is what I am running into. Mario of all the drivers is who is driving my horse. Already had a couple talks with AMAc about Mario driving last year as my horse is now 3. And yes I am getting out little by little of TheStable.CA. At a loss.
man lots of bad reports on the stable
what the fck is going is he really cheating clients
I cant imagine ,,not bein able to get of a horse when u want
why doesn't stupid shit like happen to me
cus
..I don't do pyramid schemes
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Are t car warranty’s pyramid schemes??
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The truth of the matter is that with 50-60 yearlings (mostly marginally bred) the chance for positive ROI overall is probably 0.001% ... you might get lucky and have a couple do well.
This initiative has gotten more people involved in horse ownership but how many will go on to buy yearlings or race horses themselves (mixed sale, claimers) & continue to have Anthony train & drive! I would say the same % listed above.
This is all about Anthony, same as the buys to bring a horse down for the gold cup & saucer. Unfortunately this is a dog & pony show and it will run its course over time.
Hopefully he’s tucking some away instead of spending lavishly as when this is done, he’ll be racing winners under 7 claimers in Dresden on Sunday afternoons.
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well said rabbit
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Come on up and see us sometime, we'll be waiting.
will pound calhound like oatmeal?
im axing for a friend
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will pound calhound like oatmeal?
im axing for a friend
Tell me what he said.
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Tell me what he said.
calhound bettor not god to Canada
that's what he said
or else
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calhound bettor not god to Canada
that's what he said
or else
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I'll take I.F. in the later rounds
what odds can I get?
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I'll take I.F. in the later rounds
what odds can I get?
ice is 87 yrs old
and calhound aint black
its a toss up ;D
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ice is 87 yrs old
and calhound aint black
its a toss up ;D
Ice bringin heat I heard.
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Ice bringin heat I heard.
YEAH HE JUST BOUGHT THIS NEW
FCKIN HEAT PAD
GOOD FOR PULLED MUSCLE AND GROIN PROBLEMS ;D ;D
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Spirit of deo qualified well...
Thays nimber 3
Still looking for another half decent horse
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very nice filly
if can mind her manners will be heard from in the summer
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Guys not 87 but your right the heat will be there. Those who live in Chitown be my guest I'll send a plane into Midway so you can see it with your own eyes then we can do the races and hit the town.
ROCKY WONT FLY, I THINK WE CAN VAN HIM UP IF HE HAS A COGGINS
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Rocky has a 2 yr old Ontario bred and a standing invite.
Issues after issues after issues
Hit 204.
She mite be little immature At this point
Mite turn out till next yr
Prob
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CONGRATS ON THEIR 2 YEAR OLD WINNER TODAY tmbz1
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Issues after issues after issues
Hit 204.
She mite be little immature At this point
Mite turn out till next yr
Prob
REMEMBER WHAT YOUR PAL GARY BUSSE TOLD U
THEY IS OR THEY AINT
ONGAIT tmbz1
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CONGRATS ON THEIR 2 YEAR OLD WINNER TODAY tmbz1
lol...a winner....yippeee e
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One win doesn't pay the bills and when it comes to TheStable your fucked.
rarely do horses pay their winter training bills in their first lifetime start
not a bad purchase for $4,000 though 👍
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REMEMBER WHAT YOUR PAL GARY BUSSE TOLD U
THEY IS OR THEY AINT
ONGAIT tmbz1
DARRYL BUSSE
GARY BUSSE IS A BUSBOY AT MCDONALDS tmbz1
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rarely do horses pay their winter training bills in their first lifetime start
not a bad purchase for $4,000 though 👍
Spare me the 4k bullshit.
Setting the bar low i see
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Will James drive the stables horses,that he owns shares of, this stakes season?
What about Jody?
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DARRYL BUSSE
GARY BUSSE IS A BUSBOY AT MCDONALDS tmbz1
ACCEPT THE JOKE AND MOVE ALONG tmbz1
TURN OUT OR SELL? IF THEY AINT ATHLETIC, THEY GO IN ALOT OF STABLES AGREED.
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Swandre the idiot with a thumbs on a 4k purchase...lol. let me know when the 60k breaker shows up. Threw a shoe so we are told. Threw her head the week prior. That's why AM likes buying cheap horses 4k+35k has a better chance 60k+45k(sure she is staked to the tilt) has a better shot with one betting a NW1 field then the one failing to qualify. Swandre still showing the chump he is on this topic.
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Swandre the idiot with a thumbs on a 4k purchase...lol. let me know when the 60k breaker shows up. Threw a shoe so we are told. Threw her head the week prior. That's why AM likes buying cheap horses 4k+35k has a better chance 60k+45k(sure she is staked to the tilt) has a better shot with one betting a NW1 field then the one failing to qualify. Swandre still showing the chump he is on this topic.
The good old buy 1 for 4...
Get 25k training bill on it then when it just does mediocre go "well we only paid 4 for it"
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Has anyone noticed SC and WEG are all of a sudden quiet now when it comes to promoting TheStable, they know this thing AM started is ready to blow up and they want to distance themselves.
Compelling commentary tmbz1
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Compelling commentary tmbz1
Indicates he expects an explosion soon.
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Swandre the idiot with a thumbs on a 4k purchase...lol. let me know when the 60k breaker shows up. Threw a shoe so we are told. Threw her head the week prior. That's why AM likes buying cheap horses 4k+35k has a better chance 60k+45k(sure she is staked to the tilt) has a better shot with one betting a NW1 field then the one failing to qualify. Swandre still showing the chump he is on this topic.
I bought 10% of her the day of the sale for $400 and then sold 5% of her for a very tidy profit. I now only own 5% of her but I’m not out a dime and she won her first lifetime start against older horses pretty impressively so who’s the idiot?
chumps
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Indicates he expects an explosion soon.
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Hey Swandre....care to inform us where AM bought her for 4K as that is not the truth. If you want I will post the sales results from2018. In the spirit of AM another person blowing smoke
She was purchased in 2019 for starters.
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Ohio Select Sale. $4,000
I was there. Bought my shares 2 seconds later
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I was talking about the maiden winner in Ohio last night. not spirit of deo.
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Also Swandre...just curious what % of Swandre the Giant did you own or are you just stealing the name?
Agsin, fake news
Swandre was NOT available to members of the stable.ca...
Yiu should see how these 2 year olds are overmatched at mohawk Friday night.
Stick to ohio
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AM already giving out the notice for some upcoming performance because of all the outside post draws.
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Agsin, fake news
Swandre was NOT available to members of the stable.ca...
Yiu should see how these 2 year olds are overmatched at mohawk Friday night.
Stick to ohio
no one is talking to you. maybe stick to speaking when spoken too
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Also Swandre...just curious what % of Swandre the Giant did you own or are you just stealing the name?
no sir, just a fan of the horse.
I believe the entire ownership group was based out of Illinois
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It was 4 guys with one guy 85% the other 3 5% each.
On another note another poor performance from the stable three year olds. Most of these horses brought back to be nw1 or nw2 and they are up the track. Look for more fire sales that could have happened 10 months ago.
On another side note Mohawk off tonight so the stable couldn't build on mediocrity already 0-26 in wins and just to 2nd's with a whole lot of 6th or worse finishes. One would at least these horses could milk a condition for a few races get some money carded but they look can't compete on the A track.
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no one is talking to you. maybe stick to speaking when spoken too
actually you are talking right to me
sorry for pointing out the fraud that is claiming swandre the giant was a stable horse
work on the horses...the ofers are getting old...
worry less about me
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no one is talking to you. maybe stick to speaking when spoken too
shouldnt this be the big time of year for you all
i thought the stable was going to be a "strong factor everywhere in 2020"
seems like you guys have a lockdown on winning or should i say , competing at the b tracks in canada
aside from that its NOTHING. ZILCH.
well, globetrotting.
but beside that ZILCH
1 for 400 horses.....disgus tingly bad.
so shut the fuck up about me. i called it years ago ....maybe you should have listened instead of fighting me the whole way through
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its on thin ice
will depend on how the horses perform next 4 months
lots of unsold shares which has to be problematic
will not be much money for any yearlings this fall
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On a FB stable post today they make mention of "the busiest time of the year getting 100+ race horses ready for their stake season". Lol...glad I wasn't eating at that point in time. They held over what 50-55 three years there have been 20 or more that can't compete in nw1 or 2. Yes a few went to the OH sire stakes looks like the rest of a dozen or so are a grassroots stake horse. So 20% probably less and verdict is out if they can even compete.
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On a FB stable post today they make mention of "the busiest time of the year getting 100+ race horses ready for their stake season". Lol...glad I wasn't eating at that point in time. They held over what 50-55 three years there have been 20 or more that can't compete in nw1 or 2. Yes a few went to the OH sire stakes looks like the rest of a dozen or so are a grassroots stake horse. So 20% probably less and verdict is out if they can even compete.
Why do you care so much?
You've been sobbing over this for 6 months.
Why
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well at least now purple has someone to commiserate with
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Sobbing...that's funny. If you were smart enough following 6 months of post you could answer your stupid question. I've asked for six months your involvement owning and being invested in the sport and on a horse forum. Yet crickets? Are you ashamed owning bad horses or not owning horses at all and using a forum to troll people and sobbing over a President? The stable could work if it was run the correct way and without all the tired excuses. But if your not a member of the stable you don't get a inside look. So again are you a owner or just a fake want to be...knowing little about this topic? People can spend their money on anything they want. They get direct access to horse ownership but for their money they don't deserve to be deceive for that access. If this was truly for entertainment only buy claimers, buy horses out of a qualifier, or pay 200k for somebody's nice 2yr old. Horses are always for sale for a price. AM only cares about one bottom line anyone can see that.
So again what horses have you owned...a simple ?
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Why is that BJ pointing out falsehoods and transparency doesn't work when trying to steal money from owners on poor horses he knows that are poor? If AM can't tell a poor horse from a good horse...is he the one that should be leading the stable? It's a forum and topics on forums have discussions. Unless we should all be talking about the racist shit on here, all the political garbage started by trolls, and all other nonsense that isn't about horse racing. If you don't like the comments which are all factually on my end...just keep scrolling!
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Horses First.....your posts are always factual and accurate
People can spend their money any way they choose.....but as you can see by the shares not sold that people are getting smarter
A particular family that I know got involved with the stable early on.......came out to bet their horses and were told they were ready to win....they left disappointed every time....and finally sold their shares for a loss plus training bills +++......eventually it's not fun when you never win
But people can do what they like with their money.
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Not even about the win or excitement to enter a winner circle but majority of these horses are up the track. That's NOT entertainment in my book? I would change my tune if AM said honestly that the entertainment angle was the hook to garner 800 clients and hundreds of yearlings to bill out a rather large monthly rake. That having good horses actually mean everything to the live and growth of the stable. I've bought yearlings for 11 years. Everyone that buys yearlings know the ROI is not on your side. That the 1 in 10 or 2 in 10 you may end up with a nice horse but can't cover the bills for the other 8 or 9. He does claim that usually he be a fool not to.
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BUYING BABIES IS A LOSING PROPOSITION.
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IT DOES MATTER WHERE THEY FINISH WHEN THEY RACE
NOBODY WANTS TO FINSH DFL ,,nobody after 2 or 3 races
owner loses interest in the horse and the trainer
TRAINER SHOULD BE AT LEAST HONEST
ABOUT THEM AND HOW THEY TRAINING DOWN,,
THE.." you got a monster " stories always come out
in feb and march when stake payments are do
usually by may 15 or june 1 when they hit 204 or little faster
most of the truth comes out,,
they not much
it happens to everyone whos raced babies,,
A MAC ,,mite a little less trustworthy than most..
ANY HOW ,, BUYING BABIES IS A LOSS
if u can absorb the loss and got money to burn or
inherited money
keep buyin babies ,,and try to get a few snap shots
in the winners circle tmbz1
these are jmvfho
,,if u guys disagree
it is what is it,,
thats being said ,,
my 2 yr old filly was awesome in qualifers yesterday tmbz1
race 5 hoosier,,ran 2nd but tmbz1
have to plug my trainer
,,shes been straight about my horses
since ive been with her
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Bill Wellwood a great horseman always said never go to the sales looking for a champion, look for something that will be a good raceway horse and will pay his or her way. If you get lucky that's a bonus and what keeps you in the game.
Armstead Jim - good example of that
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5-2 or better I will jump on Johann to be the stable first Mohawk winner post covid. Looked decent coming onto the track. A 4-5box as well
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this is not a fckin bill odonnell or
STANLY FCKIN DANCER thread
pls doNT ruin thread
with storIEs when
u jagged off in front of ODONELL OR
or stanley dancer saw u take a piss
who the fck cares
you old mutherfcuckers
GOTT MOVE THE FCK ON WITH LIFE
STOP LIVIN IN THE PAST
ITS OVER ,,THEY TEARIN DOWN STATUES NOW
THEM MUTHERFCKERS DONT CARE ABOUT STANLEY DANCER OR BILL FCKIN ODONELL
its startin to be annoyoin as fck with these
66 yr old i dont give a fck about stories
back to my GUY ANTHONY MAC
DOMINATION IN RACIN IN CANADA
FOR 2020
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Well there went 100.00.
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Settle down Rocky that kind of BS will get you a good smack up side the head.
BE QUIET AND DONT DERAIL THREADS WITH
65 YR OLD STORIES THAT NOBODY GIVES A FCK ABOUT
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$130k+ In to qualify this morning
Not including the ones you can’t buy shares on....
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BE QUIET AND DONT DERAIL THREADS WITH
65 YR OLD STORIES THAT NOBODY GIVES A FCK ABOUT
This thread is about crying about AMac. Not crying about Stanley comments.
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This thread is about crying about AMac. Not crying about Stanley comments.
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN
I DONT A RATS ASS ABOUT STANLEY HE DEAD ngc3 ngc3
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THATS WHAT IM SAYIN
I DONT A RATS ASS ABOUT STANLEY HE DEAD ngc3 ngc3
WAS AN ASSHOLE WHEN ALIVE
WHO CARES ABOUT STANLEY I GOTTA AGREE
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Going down faster than tires on an Electra 225
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Or the tires on the cavalier luc bought Jenny
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Or the tires on the cavalier luc bought Jenny
You finally traded that one in?
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You finally traded that one in?
lol ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
She drives a Range Rover
Delroy
And she still not happy
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WOW IM HURT
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Should I band I.F. again?
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Globetrotting ngc3 ngc3
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Should I band I.F. again?
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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at the sire stakes tonight in ohio
1st hirse....6th by 25 last q 32
2nd hirse gallop past the wire no check
3rd hoirse 6th by 20
so with the 1000 shipping 150 ship to the track 120 groom fee
50 overnight watchman fee....
the owners are out bigtime...
take another vacation amac
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oh and up at mohawk watch ave 9th
350 dollar starting fee down the drain
plus 150 paddock me
150 shipping for 20 minute drive....
mismanagement.com
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at the sire stakes tonight in ohio
1st hirse....6th by 25 last q 32
2nd hirse gallop past the wire no check
3rd hoirse 6th by 20
so with the 1000 shipping 150 ship to the track 120 groom fee
50 overnight watchman fee....
the owners are out bigtime...
take another vacation amac
So by your logic they shouldnt pay the groom or the shipper if the horses don’t get a cheque? interesting.
2nd horse earned a small cheque.
total shipping fee from Northfield Park to Northfield Park = $0
being your fact checker is a full time job.
same fillies made $25,000 last time out. can’t win em all bud
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So by your logic they shouldnt pay the groom or the shipper if the horses don’t get a cheque? interesting.
2nd horse earned a small cheque.
total shipping fee from Northfield Park to Northfield Park = $0
being your fact checker is a full time job.
same fillies made $25,000 last time out. can’t win em all bud
you never give up
you will crawl into the bunker and talk shit from down there before blowing it up
the whole stable couldnt be going and worse and here you are defeniding it like im wrong
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you never give up
you will crawl into the bunker and talk shit from down there before blowing it up
the whole stable couldnt be going and worse and here you are defeniding it like im wrong
I corrected the things you said that were factually incorrect. you’re entitled to your opinion, but when you give false information I’m going to correct it. don’t be sad.
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Swandre..
1. What about the shipping fees from Canada to Ohio? I can't imagine how much he billed the owners...maybe double?
2. Who do you think is going to pay AM's living expenses while in Ohio as he travels to drive the horses rather than use decent catch drivers?
3. Almost forgot race 13 at Northfield...anot her no check...horse finished 7th
When are you going to admit that AM can't train a dog to bark. As his brother said AM empties the tank in training or qualifiers leaving nothing for the races.
It will be interesting to see what Arctic Force does tomorrow night since AM said he trained him by himself in 1:52. The best thing the horse has going for him is that AM is NOT driving
The funny thing is i actually dont think hes that bad a trainer or driver. Ibthink hes actually good at both.
Its his mismanagement and doing things for his own interests rather than whats best for the horse or owners that i have my issues with
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A ouch night grassroots friday and saturday and OHSS not good. 2 of the 3 should be in buckeye bad management. The stable clients getting restless as AM fields lots of texts but it's ok he has thick skin. Globetrotting going to set back if she is best number 3 or 4 in OH has no shot being GC and that was the high hope. There is a 48-72 watch list of horses that can't cut....40 should have been cut in Oct 2019. He blames covid for horses ready in Mar when they could have made some money. Now all being equal with everyone's horses ready and racing at the same time his can't compete. His words not mine. It is frustrating however having a 53-52 pacers at 3 and can't make money in the grassroots. No easy checks even with a 52 pacer. Tough game.
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Globetrotting dead lame btw
Guess that's what happens when you send a horse all out from the 9 hole in its 1st race of the year
Anyways the right thing to do is to bench the horse for the meantime but you better believe the horse will be right back in the Box and be ruined further
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A ouch night grassroots friday and saturday and OHSS not good. 2 of the 3 should be in buckeye bad management. The stable clients getting restless as AM fields lots of texts but it's ok he has thick skin. Globetrotting going to set back if she is best number 3 or 4 in OH has no shot being GC and that was the high hope. There is a 48-72 watch list of horses that can't cut....40 should have been cut in Oct 2019. He blames covid for horses ready in Mar when they could have made some money. Now all being equal with everyone's horses ready and racing at the same time his can't compete. His words not mine. It is frustrating however having a 53-52 pacers at 3 and can't make money in the grassroots. No easy checks even with a 52 pacer. Tough game.
Thats why you dont buy mediocre pacing yearlings
Unless you are a small timer racing fairs or a hobby guy
Or you just want as many training bills as you cam get so you can be the only horsemen in the country that takes multiple vacations a year
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Whens the fire sale?
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Ill help with some liquidity
See if you can get a price for tymal houdini or just for me n u
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Globetrotting dead lame btw
Guess that's what happens when you send a horse all out from the 9 hole in its 1st race of the year
Anyways the right thing to do is to bench the horse for the meantime but you better believe the horse will be right back in the Box and be ruined further
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tymal houdini could be very good
spirit of deo has hope
and purple even symba is a very useful racehorse
a whole bunch need to go
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tymal houdini could be very good
spirit of deo has hope
and purple even symba is a very useful racehorse
a whole
bunch need to go
symba is probably down money for the owners onthe year
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MACDONALD,ANTHONY A
ON - DID USE MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE WRIST ACTION WHILE URGING.
Commission Rule Number : 22.23.03 (B), 22.23.05 (A+B) AND POLICY DIRECTIVE 3-2019
Date Issued : 27-JUN-2020
Total Due : 300.00
Violation Occurred : Race 9 at WOODBINE MOHAWK PARK on 26-JUN-2020
Suspended From 12-JUL-2020 To 16-JUL-2020 (Driving Suspension)
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desperate men make desperate moves
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probably trying to win the race which is what most of them are trying to do( you would hope)
quite sure he is not the only driver to get this suspension
fine line and judges opinion
non issue
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probably trying to win the race which is what most of them are trying to do( you would hope)
quite sure he is not the only driver to get this suspension
fine line and judges opinion
non issue
12th lifetime start
Other drivers have won races without beating on them
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purple
you were right about wanting to buy stonebridge symba
154.4 (lifetime best) winner today at the meadows
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purple
you were right about wanting to buy stonebridge symba
154.4 (lifetime best) winner today at the meadows
Do you know how much we have been billed/lost on Stonebridge Symba?
He can't/won't sell him for a decent price because he bled the owners dry
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kole
i think you can put your shares up for sale on the board
problem solved
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Looks like a 1:52 trotter at Meadowlands.
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another gallop in the first at mohawk
this is getting to be like trump
the hits just keep on coming
it takes hard work and thinking of others to succedd
not self thinking
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another gallop in the first at mohawk
this is getting to be like trump
the hits just keep on coming
it takes hard work and thinking of others to succedd
not self thinking
Why doesn't he hire good help and let them take care of shit, and just demand results, like the big stables I was aware of do?
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Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd
raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat
2year old colt
Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.
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Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd
raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat
2year old colt
Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.
man o man
i wonder what the owners think about that
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Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd
raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat
2year old colt
Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.
Thats not a strong factor anywhere. Bet stable owners are wondering, or just clueless.
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man o man
i wonder what the owners think about that
horse had one owner and that owner sold him.
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Why doesn't he hire good help and let them take care of shit, and just demand results, like the big stables I was aware of do?
if you’ve got this all figured out why aren’t you running a big Stable?
that horse almost never breaks. looks like he got into the horse in front of him a bit getting into the turn
do you guys watch the races or just read the lines? they broadcast the races in HD now, just a tip.
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if you’ve got this all figured out why aren’t you running a big Stable?
that horse almost never breaks. looks like he got into the horse in front of him a bit getting into the turn
do you guys watch the races or just read the lines? they broadcast the races in HD now, just a tip.
i am running a big stable...
thanks for playing
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but still no mention of stonebridge symba today
he doesn't count i guess
and you say he sold royal tyrone to robert shepard
i see the owner as a numbered company
i see the trainer as darveau
and oh yes shepard is the driver
small details
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Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd
raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat
2year old colt
Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.
horse is owned by an owner (numbered company) who has many horses with different trainers - Shep and his friend train a few for him. Shep doesnt own this guy - same owner as Dancer Hall and others.
Kole were shares ever offered for sale on this guy? somehow I doubt it?
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if you’ve got this all figured out why aren’t you running a big Stable?
that horse almost never breaks. looks like he got into the horse in front of him a bit getting into the turn
do you guys watch the races or just read the lines? they broadcast the races in HD now, just a tip.
I was one of the guys that helped out. Pretty easy to be at a phone when they tell ya...the horse stuff is discussed. How hard was/is this?
AMac wants those harness bags lined up...50 owners comin by. Get some rest.
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anyone see spirit of deo race
just aksin
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Well the lottery has started on when TheStable folds $5.00 and pick your day.
ill take end of november
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Well the lottery has started on when TheStable folds $5.00 and pick your day.
Might get more action if a month was involved. Looks like AMac can stretch it out a long ways...
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anyone see spirit of deo race
just aksin
i didnt see it buti bet her
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i didnt see it buti bet her
I BET HER TOO 73cv.2
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Royal Tyrone was never up for sale on shares. While private owners and breeders are time to time this one never was.
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Spirit of Deo win last night despite the drive. She looks like a nice filly but a few more of those [look at me drives] she will turn in to another one of his uncontrollable pieces of shit. This guy is completely lost on the track and you can see the pressure in his driving.The ship is sinking so get ouit while there are still lifeboats
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Ok Ed we will spell it out, DAY AND MONTH action has been heavy.
My bet is he gets 1 more turn then it's over. I'll take NOV '21 for 5 bux. If we gotta break ties, we go to days...
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Spirit of Deo win last night despite the drive. She looks like a nice filly but a few more of those [look at me drives] she will turn in to another one of his uncontrollable pieces of shit. This guy is completely lost on the track and you can see the pressure in his driving.The ship is sinking so get ouit while there are still lifeboats
SHORTAGE OF LIFEBOATS ON THIS SHIP TOO 73cv.2
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Friday night
Race 1
Imalovelylady.
Nice looking 2yr trotting filly.
Unfortunately drew the 8 hole on half mile track in first lifetome start with lots of speed inside
The obvious thing to do would be to say to yourself
Weve got a nive filly here, even though purse is 40k we got screwed with 8 hole so lets just take back and teach and get the money over the next 2 years..
Or just blast out
Lets see...
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correct purple
no argument
lets see
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Purple you already know the answer to your question LETS GO!!!!!!!
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I think he could float her it is 2 or old filly trotters to find a spot. She does have some gate speed but have interest in this race. Congrats on the stable breaking the 0 for Mohawk. That was a nice mile.
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I think he could float her it is 2 or old filly trotters to find a spot. She does have some gate speed but have interest in this race. Congrats on the stable breaking the 0 for Mohawk. That was a nice mile.
floating out wouldnt be so bad...
but i say he gas pedals her
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Decent night for the 6 stake races 3 3rd's and 3 4th's that is counting the ONT race. Cassie with a Big Jim colt in 51.3 first race out. Tough to compete against that. Ohio races lacked any monsters that usually rip around that Cleveland oval first time out OHSS. Other then first filly and first colt race a lot or just average type miles? All stable horses clean lines and a check but past couple years the first race was a spring board with wins for the stable. While Beaver sent out 13 horses grabbing 3 wins and 4 seconds.
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HES SENDIN OUT SOME SOLID 2 YR OLDS
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Looks like their entry into the 2yo filly Next Generation race at Scioto is a scratch. Too bad...could have been a good opening week. I wonder if they get their 10k back for that spot.
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Wonder why she was ineligible? Seems like something one would know beforehand, or perhaps someone fell asleep at the wheel. Either way, tremendously disappointing.
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The filly pacer wasn't the stable first choice. This filly was a backup choice. From there one has to ask what happened? 25k in entry fees for Ohio yesterday and today brings a - to purses earned...granted different owners.
Here's a question from a AM video. Really blue Chip has been awful but ready since Mar/April. Covid hits but all 3 year olds stayed the training course. Comments on video Really BC needs to 200lbs. 200 pounds is a lot of weight and takes a lot of time to add. Why was this horse not turned out for well being?
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Make that 22,500 entry fees
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downnnnnn it goes
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downnnnnn it goes
ngc3
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Well at least the horses never had Anthony driving them last night @ Mohawk, that’s a bonus.
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So the horses that aren't near Anthony seem to do "ok" but the excuses piling up for him, he is piss poor.
He drives them harder in qualifiers than they can actually go, soundly, in a race.
The Stables horses only do half decent when he stays the fck away from them.
I saw his wife "training" a set with him & some others, whoever gave the OK for her to go on the track with a young baby- is clueless. He shouldn't be near a a baby, let alone she!
Look at how many clients got "soaked" all winter on bringing back garbage 3 yr olds...
His SebastianK 3 yr old has been given back by multiple trainers already this year. (Imagine paying Ake to train her, then Butenshoen, now Moreau gave her back- they must have $25K into her for training bills in 2020)
WHAT ABOUT THE "next generaTION Stakes" FIASCO?
BUT WAIT:
Took 2 horses & paid over 20K US to enter them, got a 6th and the other was ineligible.
HONESTLY- YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP...
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How Miss Meringue doing?
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cheddar get disqualified yesterday thought he raced well
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How Miss Meringue doing?
Anyone?
Buehler? Buehler??
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Anyone?
Buehler? Buehler??
looked her up - ran 3rd in Sires Stake - first leg - got run into a couple of times - raced okay -
probably if she drew inside could have run 2nd - not a bad first start and despite Purple thinking he would leave with every one of the trotters, he took back with them.
Looks like she is not done growing from what I could see - could be a fair sized filly -
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Anyone?
Buehler? Buehler??
You own her and don't know? ngc3
AND....
owning dead guys stable is an absolute fuckin classic ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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You own her and don't know? ngc3
AND....
owning dead guys stable is an absolute fuckin classic ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I'm just looking for Daps from my fans.
3rd for $40k first out.
Me and Lucpark still got Zero combined wins....but mine is stakes placed.
That other thing... Dude lying out his ass. He'll be sorry.
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I'm just looking for Daps from my fans.
3rd for $40k first out.
Me and Lucpark still got Zero combined wins....but mine is stakes placed.
That other thing... Dude lying out his ass. He'll be sorry.
JOSHUA TREE?
WAS SET TO RUN 3RD THIS WHOLE CONTEST
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JOSHUA TREE?
IDK
Dude like 50 years old but I heard he getting Pop's Eldorado Biarritz for netting $20k a month.
Bonus that boy up now
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IDK
Dude like 50 years old but I heard he getting Pop's Eldorado Biarritz for netting $20k a month.
Bonus that boy up now
HORSE IS A 4YR OLD WITH 66K ON CARD...FATHER LISTED FIRST 73cv.2
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Andrew McCarthy pulled the two hole twice with Maverick bit ducked back in....Once passing three quarters and again after a brave-up tuck through the lane and he still could not or would not gain an inch on Caruso driven by Dave Miller. I can see not pushing him in a baby race but this horse would not take a step forward when Andrew pulled the right line. He looks great gaited but when you pay a million you expect a steamroller. He looks like a steamroller but doesn't go like one. Last week they said "tied up" but this horse doesn't like to go by horses.
I wouldn't count him out yet. But a mile in 56.3 he should go right by at $1,000,000.
Doesn't matter. He'll make money and go to Europe for stud or he might wake up and be an okay horse. Caruso won but he didn't look like a great trotter in the making either. Nothing to write home about.
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Don’t miss the Dispersal Sale Wednesday night
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Don’t miss the Dispersal Sale Wednesday night
Not much stock from what I can see- AMac in his write-ups blames it on the Coronavirus in most cases. 91zxa.1
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AM blames a lot of things. Never heard of so many horses having allergies even though not one is mention to have a rash.
His excuse to owners was having his poor stock ready to roll against other poor stock in Mar. But because of covid all the horses
came back and his can't compete. Or get in on a regular basis. His comments not getting in at Ohio tracks for overnights are simple...they are
not OH owned. Makes no mention of that. The dispersal are a few 2yr olds that they couldn't sell. The others given the reason are
up for sale would curtail to another 25 at least 3 year olds with no chance. Yet he tells owners on the ones for sale its not fair to be charging a monthly bill. He talks in circles but should be honest to all the owners on exactly what he is after if the horse isn't stake worthy, can't get in, not competitive, doesn't see a 90 day window for the horse. Would think more coming down the pipe at the Aug blooded horse sale. There is no entertainment in horses that are 3 and still can't compete in nw 1 or nw2. Also a lot of his young horses have zero finish. Yes a handful of minor pieces in the first round of stake races. Not good going forward.
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Isn't the purpose of a dispersal sale to sell the horses that were deemed expendable for many reasons...not buy back 4 of the 10? A stable of poor horses I guess he can't get away from collecting those bills.
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Andrew McCarthy pulled the two hole twice with Maverick bit ducked back in....Once passing three quarters and again after a brave-up tuck through the lane and he still could not or would not gain an inch on Caruso driven by Dave Miller. I can see not pushing him in a baby race but this horse would not take a step forward when Andrew pulled the right line. He looks great gaited but when you pay a million you expect a steamroller. He looks like a steamroller but doesn't go like one. Last week they said "tied up" but this horse doesn't like to go by horses.
I wouldn't count him out yet. But a mile in 56.3 he should go right by at $1,000,000.
Doesn't matter. He'll make money and go to Europe for stud or he might wake up and be an okay horse. Caruso won but he didn't look like a great trotter in the making either. Nothing to write home about.
I'm sure the connections are hoping that hes just green and not lacking heart. Its extremely frustrating sitting behind a perfect gaited horse who has had the trip the entire mile and when you pull the right line at the 1/8 he does nothing but play follow the leader
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Isn't the purpose of a dispersal sale to sell the horses that were deemed expendable for many reasons...not buy back 4 of the 10? A stable of poor horses I guess he can't get away from collecting those bills.
Well they weren't going for much. I am not sure what amish horses go for in Canada but I'm pretty sure I can get more for the one I bought from the Amish in the states.
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Golfhbm there must have been a change on one of the reserved buy back because it now says sold. So 7 sold for a average of 8200. Couple reserve on two not meet around 7k and one just over 13k. See how many show up at Blooded sale end of Aug
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point might be valid
trailer wraps being done by cosa
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Iceman...the sad part is it's a good concept the guy seems to know enough about training horses one can question his years of driving. He will even attest to that. But then you hear a video on Really Blue Chip. The horse made some ripples in the NYSS last year and made a little money. Was all geared up and ready to go beginning of April. As were a lot or most of the 3 yr olds. Then covid and a pause. All horses were still in training mode not knowing a starting date. So what's with RBC she was a disaster on the track when racing came back and his reasoning behind it was she needed 200lbs of weight. Now if your a owner in this game and at least know a few things 200lbs is a big deal for a horse that came back from time off and hadn't begun the riggers of summer racing. Also that it takes many months to add 200lbs. So WHY was this horse even training in Feb and Mar and not turned out to add weight. Just one of a few things that make you go hmm?
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My thoughts are based on from investors that cut their loses and got out. Now some of the comments though you could tell these investors should never of got in and this in the end was AM's grand play. Entice the no nothings into owning a piece to cover costs and then only a select few, key word few would get in on the ones that had a chance. But again AM is useless as a judge of horse flesh, can't train and can't drive. End result this scam is coming to an end quick.
How did it get this far?
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
Getting in on several or letting Anthony decide quality and quantity? That's what most appear to be doing. I advise bucking the trend here......
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Ed when some newbies read how WEG and SC promote the hell out of it the newbies figure everything is on the up and up but when they see all their monthly bills finish up the track or DNF then they realize they got taken.
That may suckers walkin around with cash up there, or is this guy a slick operator with great presentation? Answer seems obvious. I hope Calhoun really buys in.
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That may suckers walkin around with cash up there, or is this guy a slick operator with great presentation? Answer seems obvious. I hope Calhoun really buys in.
Very slick. Filly sold for $60k. We got in at a val of $85. I won my 1/2 a share on a ufc fight. It's not a lot of money involved.
Bunch of has beens and never weres counting other peoples $ like they IRS or some shit.
Anthony found a way to make some money. So what if people lose a little cash? Ain't like 98% of the loser owners here are not in the same situation,,, only they are EV 10,000x the loss Calhoun can max see.
The drone vids are to die for.
btw, she's in. You can root against Calhoun!
p.s. You know you're on the wrong end of things when IceFag is your go to guy on any thread. That's been proven by science. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I don't know the guy well, but remember the movie Used Cars with Kurt Russell? "Mister, you ran over my dog."
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What I found suspicious is that at the start of the year SC and Ontario Racing were selecting trainers that they would do trainers trailers up with fancy decals promoting the trainer and racing and after all the promoting they did for TheStable they didn't do a trailer for Anthony. As said before those who were in AM's corner in the beginning are distancing themselves from him now as they realize the scam it was.
😂😂😂
that’s quite a conspiracy but the truth is it just wasn’t taken in until recently and was done a month ago.
sorry to put a damper on that one, it was a good read though. points for creativity
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😂😂😂
that’s quite a conspiracy but the truth is it just wasn’t taken in until recently and was done a month ago.
sorry to put a damper on that one, it was a good read though. points for creativity
tmbz1
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Meanwhile, you can get a share of Baffert's Ky Derby contender Authentic for only $206.
Your $206 gets you 0.001% ownership of the horse. tmbz1
That's a $20,000,000+ valuation.
Sounds good to me. tmbz1
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Calhoun. Did you just say you paid $85 for 1% of a $60k horse?
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Calhoun. Did you just say you paid $85 for 1% of a $60k horse?
no
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Very slick. Filly sold for $60k. We got in at a val of $85. I won my 1/2 a share on a ufc fight. It's not a lot of money involved.
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What was other $25k for.
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What was other $25k for.
He lies out his ass daily.
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Anything you say piss ant but nobody has seen it yet all the others have been out there. You must be AM or someone close to the scam it is.
Literally on the COSA and Stable Facebook pages. quick browse could have saved you the embarrassment
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Anything you say piss ant but nobody has seen it yet all the others have been out there. You must be AM or someone close to the scam it is.
of course they have da wrap it was a free handout! thought you were sharper then that melted ice
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What was other $25k for.
Transpo back, bills, time, profit etc... She sold out at a val of $100k.
Any more questions?
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Golfhbm all good points tmbz1
You got roasted again. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Maybe your new BFF Jim ButFuk will come along with a tube of ointment.
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He lies out his ass daily.
You've been "in the business" 47 years.
But the never let you near the money, right?
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You've been "in the business" 47 years.
But the never let you near the money, right?
They ration it out...they know me.
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just an fyi
not everyone owns shares in each and every horse
some people are selective and have some that do okay
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There is no way to skew any numbers to favor this deal. That's what I'm reading.
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Transpo back, bills, time, profit etc... She sold out at a val of $100k.
Any more questions?
Not trying to be an ass. Just asking questions to try to figure out how he is making a living with this deal. With the cost of keeping a racehorse and paying help $2k a month doesn’t seem worth the aggravation. But if you can inflate the price to people who have no knowledge of what a horse should be worth, that’s where the big profits come in. Maybe I missed it in an earlier post what is the name of the horse you own
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But if you can inflate the price to people who have no knowledge of what a horse should be worth
Yes, that's me.
Any other questions?
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Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr
with new approach and new owners
no more shares I was just told
just 20% of horses and up
too many small share horses bowing out
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that's what the scoop was tmbz1
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Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr
with new approach and new owners
no more shares I was just told
just 20% of horses and up
too many small share horses bowing out
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that's what the scoop was tmbz1
Will he get them ready the same?
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someone please explain how those emojis became part of my post when I have NEVER used emojis in anything. Is someone hacking the posts?
When you write 3 question marks in a row on your post it becomes the emoji for "huh"
Nobody's hacking your or anybody's posts .... I hope ngc3 ngc3
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Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr
with new approach and new owners
no more shares I was just told
just 20% of horses and up
too many small share horses bowing out
so you are joining then based on this new criteria ? hell, you can probably get Ice and Calhoun to take the same shares and you guys can be the Three Amigos Stable or Pepsi Meringue Stable
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that's what the scoop was tmbz1
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where did I say I was joining Anthony mac racing?
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Im asking, thats all -
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you guys could buy one with him and change the horses name to
Rockthetightywhit eys
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Im asking, thats all -
no sir
Anthony is not for me
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here goes
to be clear i am defining a good horse as one that most of us would want to own, purchase price has nothing to do with the list although you can assume most were bought for $25 k or less
also this is not to say how they do tonight or next week but ones that could turn a profit and have some value over the next few years
cruising in style
tymal houdini
white tiger
spirit of deo
globetrotting
walkon the moon
warrawee welcome
yes
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based on the roster, i would add in Cavill Hanover - may be a good 4 year old
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Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr
with new approach and new owners
no more shares I was just told
just 20% of horses and up
too many small share horses bowing out
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that's what the scoop was tmbz1
your scoop was awful
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your scoop was awful
A few guys got told the same thing. Is this the new angle?
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WoW what entertainment tonight across four tracks for the stable and it's ten entries. OHSS action tonight and
more proof of AM mismanagement of talent. IF this was for entertainment value only why are three or four of those
entered not placed in the Buckeye to actually win and make some money? Three breakers out of ten two in stakes
and S of Deo at Mohawk. Has Miss M the 100k plus investment cross the finish line yet? Once again another night of
horses that tend to be followers and back up into the pack either earning a small check or no check. These horses spent
already in middle of July or far less superior in talent against the foes they race against? Again cheap horses in most cases not
all...very rarely rise to the top. With 100 or more head a fire sale in place late Aug so AM can start buying in the 2020 new
babies? Horses will be priced cheaper in 2020 can imagine he will have tough choices passing on so many under 10k
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WoW what entertainment tonight across four tracks for the stable and it's ten entries. OHSS action tonight and
more proof of AM mismanagement of talent. IF this was for entertainment value only why are three or four of those
entered not placed in the Buckeye to actually win and make some money? Three breakers out of ten two in stakes
and S of Deo at Mohawk. Has Miss M the 100k plus investment cross the finish line yet? Once again another night of
horses that tend to be followers and back up into the pack either earning a small check or no check. These horses spent
already in middle of July or far less superior in talent against the foes they race against? Again cheap horses in most cases not
all...very rarely rise to the top. With 100 or more head a fire sale in place late Aug so AM can start buying in the 2020 new
babies? Horses will be priced cheaper in 2020 can imagine he will have tough choices passing on so many under 10k
I saw Lawmakers $60,000 Full Count brother get beat 15 lengths tonight
Globetrotting’s $60,000 Full Count sister struggling as well
don’t see any of you experts chirping about that?
you think all those $100,000+ first day Lexington yearlings are turning a profit? 😂 I’ve got news for you.
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Yes, that's me.
Any other questions?
How about the name of the horse? Just want to see what it accomplished to almost double in value
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Karma is a bitch. Remember when he told Frank Cirillo horse was no good, then he bought him, changed his name and won a couple gold OSS with it. Deserves everything coming to him.
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I saw Lawmakers $60,000 Full Count brother get beat 15 lengths tonight
Globetrotting’s $60,000 Full Count sister struggling as well
don’t see any of you experts chirping about that?
you think all those $100,000+ first day Lexington yearlings are turning a profit? 😂 I’ve got news for you.
We have all discussed the sister/brother deals here alot. No news there. Get off the Titanic while you can. When they tell you to pack your trunk, you'll get the hint.
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Swandre as mentioned the full brother half brother/sister has been a proven money killer over time for those that spend recklessly down that rabbit hole. A person like AM falls into that type of trap not on overvalued horses because he can't afford them. But like a cheap Symba or a bit tad expensive Rose Run V just to name a couple. AM who has declared many of times KNOWS SHIT about pedigree. His words not mine. So he takes black type and money earned and shovels it to the clients that this horse can produce. Please. Take Iglare AM has no affinity with dam to sire and it shows. Besides your argument about that topic isn't what is being discussed with the stable having so many bad horses being marched out in the form of entertainment. That his is a money grab and 40 of these horses would be better off elsewhere. The guy says one thing about a group of horses when it can be said about 30 or 40% of the others but keeps them around? The problem with expensive full brother and sisters the ones making that choice fall with people that can muster that failure in a industry of poor RIO. They just move on to the next one. Stable can't because it's easier to explain and move on from a 15k animal that the book said the talent could possibly be there but the heart wasn't. Again someone that buys so many the law of averages say you will get something that excels. Problem for the stable that only hits around 5%. Not good!
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Besides the number of super mares out there that can throw 5 or more foals to different sires and achieve racing greatest are limited. You will find even the marginally less breed mare throw a foal or two that reach over 100k. But the production falls off the map. Those are a dime a dozen. Not even science can duplicate a Muscle Hill or a Donato Hanover or SBSW. So many factors play in before the foal drops and when it drops. Everything after that from flaws, to care, to environment, to not getting bruised up with other foals, to sale day and a new home. All things other then just being blood related factor in. Then if you believe the industry isnt perfect add in chemistry during racing life.
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We have all discussed the sister/brother deals here alot. No news there. Get off the Titanic while you can. When they tell you to pack your trunk, you'll get the hint.
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I talked with Wayne. He's glad he's gone.
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Andrew McCarthy pulled the two hole twice with Maverick bit ducked back in....Once passing three quarters and again after a brave-up tuck through the lane and he still could not or would not gain an inch on Caruso driven by Dave Miller. I can see not pushing him in a baby race but this horse would not take a step forward when Andrew pulled the right line. He looks great gaited but when you pay a million you expect a steamroller. He looks like a steamroller but doesn't go like one. Last week they said "tied up" but this horse doesn't like to go by horses.
I wouldn't count him out yet. But a mile in 56.3 he should go right by at $1,000,000.
Doesn't matter. He'll make money and go to Europe for stud or he might wake up and be an okay horse. Caruso won but he didn't look like a great trotter in the making either. Nothing to write home about.
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Mrs Meringue now has an evaluation of a dollar thirty-five a share...
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Does James own any shares in horses that he’s driving against tonight?
What about Jody?
Bob?
Doug?
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How much are Blue Monk shares?
Asking for a confused friend.
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Anyone got stable stats since it was established?? Most up and coming stables like to promote those stats.
Must not be pretty
If it was half decent we wouldn’t hear the end of it...
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If it was half decent we wouldn’t hear the end of it...
In retrospect, this business model was doomed for the vast majority of investors. It was pitched as a way for the undesirable colts and fillies from breeding farms that did not sell, to be purchased by the group to train and race. It met with little if any success. No surprises as this equine demographic rarely rises above its class.
Spreading the risk onto many shareholders does nothing to change the fact that these yearlings were then and proved later to be not worth the risk of investment.
Anthony did up his game with decent State breds and is having a measure of success but , from where I sit, they only one making money and enjoying the investment of the partners is, Anthony.
As a businessman, good for him. As an investor, well maybe you might want to reevaluate your commitment.
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Anyone got stable stats since it was established?? Most up and coming stables like to promote those stats.
Must not be pretty
show me one barn that ever posted their return on investment from the yearling sales.
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Can't wait to hear the excuses for Fox Valley Britzka last night at Hoosier....4:5 and gets beat 30 lengths without a break...must need a small shoeing changed after the horse is scoped. Why does this idiot drive to Hoosier for this one horse and more important why do the owners pay his expenses?
Watch for him to brag how well the horses do at the Painesville Fair on Tuesday but he will probably forget to mention that 6 of the 8 races he is in have no more then 5 horses which is about the only way he can get a check.
The more people invest with him the larger the dumb and dumber club gets
looks like you’re investing your time following along so who’s really in the dumb club now? 😂
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golfbhm - why arent your friends selling these shares on their market ?
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The videos are filled with clients asking a lot of questions and are onto the bs excuses for so many poor performance past two years. I've never seen 50 or more head come back worse at 3 then at 2. There stake horses Really BC, Harness AM, Spendthatmoney, Compass Rose DC not only couldn't compete at Sire stake can't compete in the lower stake. So many horses nw 1 and 2 that can't compete on ON b and c track. They may have a win or two recently at Mohawk. It's disgraceful display and now the past week they can blame a barn sickness for weeks of scratch horses. There star Globetrotting just average and not a GC horse so good luck with a handful of OH stakes left. Two year olds I think have a couple lower stake wins and not competitive elsewhere. Clients are texting and wanting explanations. Another poor 6-8 weeks a fire sale will happen and I would wager clients cashing out in no hurry to buy new yearlings. But I'm sure Swandre has a good explanation for 90% of the stable couldn't wps in a amish field of 7.
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Good luck to the eight stable horses racing in the fairs. They should be dominate today. Hopefully the #entertainment clients can find somewhere to watch their horses race? All the whining of can't find a spot to race in OH because of covid and full race cards. YOUR HORSES DON'T FIT THE RULES OF OHIO OWNED IS WHY!!
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Good luck to the eight stable horses racing in the fairs. They should be dominate today. Hopefully the #entertainment clients can find somewhere to watch their horses race? All the whining of can't find a spot to race in OH because of covid and full race cards. YOUR HORSES DON'T FIT THE RULES OF OHIO OWNED IS WHY!!
theres a difference between sires and fairs
more stories and fables by
a mac
hes entertainment cant really give him horses
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60k purchase and over 100k investment finally finds a place a 2:06 mile that she can romp in. The #1 OH trot filly in Norman Hall pedigree breakdown is a fair winner. Congrats to those owners they actually cash a decent check away from the real OH horses. Make sure that gets reinvested in Sep at the OH Jug sale. Many 5k purchases coming down the pipeline this year. Stable looking to buy all horses under 8k average as sales with dip at least 25%. At that pace they can buy 125 head and still spend around that 1.0mln dollar mark. Stable will have 250 horses training next year he will claim to be bigger then Burke. But buy early AM doesn't want to be sole owner of 95 horses at 100% share as they train down all season.
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no argument, your points are bang on and valid, hopefully everyone gets a winners circle photo
having said that and if the horse had any other prior success going a training mile and getting paid $5k is not all bad
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no argument, your points are bang on and valid, hopefully everyone gets a winners circle photo
having said that and if the horse had any other prior success going a training mile and getting paid $5k is not all bad
How much was shipping + A Mac expenses?
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A Mac is such a poor driver these boys will show just how bad he is. Investors you have to be totally blind not to see how A Mac is fucking you over, you deserve to go broke.
I invested
I’ve made money this year
But I also wouldn’t really care if I didn’t
you mad?
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I invested
I’ve made money this year
But I also wouldn’t really care if I didn’t
you mad?
GTFOH
I know a lie when I read one and that sir is a big fucking lie
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46 pages of
jeaolusy,
hate,
sobbing
and
Counting other peoples money.
Not to mention Rooting Down Calhoun and
other owners.
Counting Other Peoples Money is one of the Deadly Sins.
I also see lot of envy, anger and greed here.... that's 4 at least.
Hate on.
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Now 47 pages of truth and if clients had any wonder why Bernie Madoff failed in a recession as a fraud. Clients are getting a clear picture as they text and email the stable CEO real questions on why the horses are so poor and lack talent. AM whining and sobbing of covid lumped all horses back to the track and his horses couldn't compete. Now the whining of a virus that has hit his stable spread in ON, OH, PA, and elsewhere so he had to scratch because of a cough. No body is counting money because simply there is no money being made for clients. No hate ...I've taken my stable lumps but its NONE of AM fault if you watch the hundreds of videos.
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GTFOH
I know a lie when I read one and that sir is a big fucking lie
Nice try ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
yeah I tell lies to impress dipshits on the internet 😂
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No you are by defending this fraud artist.
nah, I said I invested and made money. That’s not defending anyone
critical thinking and reading comprehension aren’t your strong suits are they?
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critical thinking and reading comprehension aren’t your strong suits are they?
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I JUST DROPPED MY TACO ngc3 ngc3
CLASSIC
SWANDRE tmbz1 tmbz1
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yeah I tell lies to impress dipshits on the internet 😂
U invest money with a known fraud and I’m the dipshit
hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1
3 dancing bananas for your anger
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oh oh
2 starters
2 winners at mohawk tonight
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actually i guess technically it was 3 starters but who the hell would count kddo that trotter
anyway just offering a counterpoint
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Counterpoint one winner a 4yr wins nw2. Cavill Hanover out of money. KDDO a breaker like fellow SK at Meadows a breaker today. Other winner a 3yr old nw2. Stable has a boat load of those underperformers after nearly two months I'm sure the condition is thinning out.
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true
but as they say they don't put the time or the details on the cheque
just to put some facts into the argument ( I know you don't really care for these ) but tymal Houdini was out 13 months injured so the fact he is now 4 and winning a nw2 is not quite as you make it out to be
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So the horse gets a mulligan congrats for him. I'm one of the few who give a shit about how fast the horses go since most of
these tracks have alter something to pick up a second or two. Times like most have said are for the breeders and stud owners.
Your right only one thing matters on the check were to put the comma.
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horses first - you were part of the stable at some point?
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I was still am. I have said numerous times it is a very good concept. It allows for some transparency which is great because
you can see the results on the track and not just the words of a trainer. I'm not a fan of trotters training down on the half mile
tracks but they do in many areas and stables. I believe the guy can train horses down and tell the difference of aches and pains.
But I do have problems with many things I have laid out.
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Even when the horses "make money"- the owners don't see all of it/any of it.
YES made alot of money. but his fees were enormous, especially with rehab its been so long since he made.
He "puts them away til next year", then his 3 year olds turn to mush
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I like cruising in style
nice trotter
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Why is it that not one of his "owners" cares to comment on the stable's winnings
Miss Meringue 2FT. 3/1-0-1 $9800
I don't pay any bills. I won my piece on a wager on a UFC fight. I neither know or care what the bills are.
I trust that helps.
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First, I am more interested in hearing someone who has skin in the game. Second, even if you won your share who is paying the bills? With earnings of $9800 a 1% share would be $98 which I do not think goes very far with AM but even if you are not paying bills try not to spend your share of the winnings all at once
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You've been here for 1 year and have made 65 posts. Every Single Fucking One Of Them about Anthony MacDonald.
We get it.
You lost your money on a bad horse.
And you've spent a year trying to make yourself feel better.
Again ... 1 Yeaar ... 65 Posts ... Everyone about Anthony....
And please... don't worry about my money.
Coveting other people's money is a deadly sin.
Please make the next 65 posts more interesting.
And stop sobbing over your loss.
Jesus Fucking Tap Dancing Christ
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Golf - I know you said your friends are looking to get out at 20% or so - i went on their site - I don't see any deep discounted horses for sale?
do you know the names of these horses that are in this "category" ?
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I believe one of the horses is Royhill. All I know is what they tell me as I dod not know how the buy sell works. Is it easy to get on the site to see what shares are selling for or do you have to be an owner?
stop paying on the horse
and take him to court
,,cus he aint never getting out of horse
until,anthony decides to sell
am I correct owners have to sign papers
in which a mac is in total charge of evry racing or selling decision
on horses?
take the loss give up the 20 percent it will be less costly
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I believe one of the horses is Royhill. All I know is what they tell me as I dod not know how the buy sell works. Is it easy to get on the site to see what shares are selling for or do you have to be an owner?
Come on now.
1 year.... 70 posts ... same guy ... same topic ... and you still have no idea wtf is going on?
You care... that's fine. But 1 year of trying and failing you are ragging on me, a 1/2 of 1 share guy?
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determining a horses value in july of a 2 yr old season is a stretch
lots of very expensive yearlings in the hands of top barns also doing little
i will agree those barns tend to move them along quickly once they determine they are no good
if it was easy all of you would be in making money buying only the winners at cheap prices
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Golfhbm first feel free to post 1,000 times on the subject at hand it's a horse forum. Secondly no need to waste your breath or key typing on certain individuals. Here is one of the horses I own Rooney Blue Chip . Sold for 27,000 at Harrisburg. Probably the worse going trotter I've ever seen. Seriously and I have owned and watched many. 1 start at 2 at the Big M in a sires and broke. Horse was turned out needed to grow. Has come back at 3 and raced 5 times last two recent starts shipped off to Hawthorne breaking twice. In perspective the horse cost 27k, has been charged 21 training bills at minimum 2,575.00 during training and for a few months just turnout charges. There along is 52,500 and with the purchase your at 77,500. Add in all the other charges staking, vet, transportation, etc...your well over 85k. The horse has race 6 lifetime starts earning 385.00 and the trainer believes something is still there? Yes the when racing bill now over 3k a month racing for a 5k maiden purse. How this horse didn't make the list to sell a couple weeks back is beyond me. May not have brought much but you ease the entertainment pain. Now if the horse races well and or wins in a start or two it doesn't do much for his current value. At some tracks you have taken him out of a maiden unless they write a lifetime earning with the maiden. I have another one Imalovelylady in tonight she has made two breaks in two sire races so definitely a disappointment because I owned the first foal of that mare and she could sure trot during her freshmen season. This one can as well. Yes, a client needs to fill out a form and selling a race horse with owned shares surely can be dumped for someone else to purchase. However it is to AM to have final say in selling a stable race horse. It may be possible if 90% of the owners agree a horse can be sold but not quit sure on that. I have stated again I like some things about the stable and clearly have stated facts on what was not so good about the stable. Nobody is going to remember the stable.ca as being a wonderful place to own a horse because the owner or CEO decided it is best to have 100, 110, 120, 140, or 150 head. One can invest in many ways with just as much capital he dispenses currently with a better yearling approach then just looking at black type in a book.
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Dude just won a $47,000 purse at Scioto. Maybe he read all your comments and used it as motivation :)
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Dude just won a $47,000 purse at Scioto. Maybe he read all your comments and used it as motivation :)
TheStable got Plopped and into the winners circle
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Brown Jug biggest part of this industry only promotes the top drivers, trainers, and horses. If there ever was a segment where are they now for horses of both industries the show would never end. When AM says or doesn't agree that the yearling business is for the rich then he is just being delusional. It's exactly what it is billed for...buying unproven horses for the most part will cost a heck of a lot more then the purchase price when it's all said and done. It's a boom or bust theory. The money is in it to hit the homerun or hinge on the hopes of having a Hambo starter. Or a Pace or Pepsi Cup. IF this is about entertainment ONLY why go the route of 100 or so chances to have something? Law of averages? If your getting 800 clients into the business why not start buying high priced claimers that race weekly. People get to the track and watch a proven commodity. Is it easy no but still easier then the crapshoot. Build on that and build on clients, have a check ready to go for 100k on a proven qualifer first out. Heck have 5 or 6 of those checks out ready to go with proven horses. You can pay 200-250k after a quality wins in sire races someone is always willing to sell good horses. Advice I still haven't taken. Never bad taking the silver not knowing if the gold is in reach. But if it's to have a training bill he is in it for the wrong reason. I posed the have 50 head paying 1.0mln at the sale or 25 paying the 1.0mln. You can bet on which option he choose to defend.
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Congrats to winners of my jazz. I have no problem rooting for horses in anyone's barn. The track is sloppy so trip will be everything today. I hope he wins the 13th as well lol
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SORRY to disappoint you but I have NEVER and will NEVER have a horse with AM! The reason I post is that know people who have had horses with him and have been taken, so if I can do anything to inform or stop his scam I will continue.
I will admit that you show your class by the language that you use and assumptions you make. You along with the other lackies that defend AM and his scam deserve what you get but also never deal in facts or answer direct questions but prefer to deflect. If you do not like my posts its simple...do not read them but I am not going anywhere
Thanks for the info
AM and his peeps asked me to invest I considered it before reading this thread
I took that money and invested in PENN and LL and got filthy rich, I also told ploppers to do the same
Much more entertaining seeing my money make 10 and 7 times my original investment in 3 months
U all can put that in ur pipes and smoke it
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Take race 6 trip and luck 9 entered before the mile ended 5 had made a break. Hate those races for owners.
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Iceman been around this game as a owner for 11 years. Things you learn...ride your good ones and get rid of the ones that can't earn a check. Never ever get in way over your ski's. No matter how much your day job may earn a bad year or two in a row can set back any individual. If you ever have a good never be afraid to cash in or sell half or more. If you want to own to race then race or if you want to breed just pick a lane and stick with one. I can say 100% I have had some decent filly trotters over the years and since have a good day job put back 100% plus back into the business. For better or worse you learn over time and my time has past. I had fun for a number of years I was crushed last year with 2 of my best broadmares and a nice Sportswriter baby die within a couple months. It is definitely a peaks and valleys industry with what seems longer stretches of valleys. But thanks Iceman.
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Pretty much true on all accounts. The thing about selling some of the good ones it keeps you in the game long playing with others money.
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One one my personal friends
Just got out of a horse. Trotter owned twenty five percent
All bills were up to date
Guess how much Anthony Mac. Sent him
Are u guys ready
145 bucks
And I’m not lying.
What a scum fvkin piece of shit
Robbing from owners
This is what happens when u give total control to the trainer
145 dollars
I told him
Sue the Cock sucker
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If so more of these stories are going to come out in the next couple of months.
Ice
All bullshit and playing around aside
This poor kid got
145. Dollars. Back
On an Ohio bred trotter that was pretty good as a two yr old
I just don’t wanna post the horses name
HORSES FIRST.
knows horse I’m taking about
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Thoughts on the changing sports landscape
After seeing the news from Miami this week regarding Major League Baseball and COVID-19 positives, I think it’s fair to be concerned about the overall state of mainstream sports moving forward in 2020. Yes, the NBA has a bubble, but with so much in-game contact and even more in the NFL, I think it’s safe to say sports isn’t getting back to “normal” anytime soon.
For the first time in my life, horse racing isn’t just an afterthought in society and the sports world in general. The job done by many major race tracks, and Woodbine, in particular with its newly minted TSN partnership and the timely unveiling of their DARKHORSE app, has moved horse racing further ahead than anyone could have projected. Yes, for many jurisdictions with casino partners 2020 has had some new and problematic challenges. Diminished capacity on gaming floors, COVID fears, and overall financial hardship have definitely reduced revenue at these venues. As our partners continue to navigate these uncharted waters, we need to do some navigating of our own.
Horse racing is very fortunate to be operating at all. I personally applaud the efforts of our industry stake holders in getting us back on the job when so many of our neighbors are still unemployed. That isn’t to say things are great and we don’t have major hurtles approaching, because we do. COVID-19 has put most everyone in a much different financial situation than they are used to, and the fallout from that is undoubtedly going to be felt first and foremost by our smaller breeders this coming sales season.
We have to face the realistic notion that there is simply less money available in 2020 to buy yearlings. I believe this an opportunity for trainers to show some entrepreneurship and partner with breeders that may be actively looking for a “Plan N” leading up to, and after the conclusion of the fall sales. Thestable.ca has done this since we opened our doors and some of our best horses have come from these partnership programs. We have been approached by many breeders already this season, and I’m sure there will be no shortage of interested parties soon enough to work with you. This is incredibly important because if we start to lose breeders, we risk shrinking a viable entry point for new people coming into the horse racing industry. If smaller breeding operations shutter, we will have fewer horses bred, eventually leading to yearlings shortages in the future that will inevitability drive up prices making it impossible to find value in the yearling market at all. Further to that, fewer horses will ultimately result in smaller fields and the inevitable downward spiral that we must fight to avoid. By not working together this fall we will actually be hurting ourselves and our industry in the long run. The obvious question is: Where will the extra funds come from to form and foster these partnerships? Is there any way to create more cash flow to help our industry moving forward?
I’ve spoken in multiple venues on two continents about the power of affordable ownership, and the draw it has on everyday people. This year because of COVID-19 shuttering society as a whole, we have more eyeballs on our sport than we had since the start of the internet. Do you think any of these people watching have ever seen a sport they can become interested in, and afford to be an active participant? The potential for that added value is immense for horse racing, and Thestable.ca has proven that this transition from fan to owner is very real and possible. This article isn’t about what we have done at our barn, as much as what other trainers can do in theirs. It isn’t the name, slogan, or the person selling the idea. It’s the message of affordable ownership and the entertainment that goes with that. I always claimed that the affordability of the entertainment dollar for dollar found in horse racing is unmatched in society, now it’s simply unrivaled!
I believe the time is upon us to properly educate our horsemen on how they can connect with everyday people to grow their own barns and brands. More now than ever, we need to introduce ourselves to society in new and direct ways to show them what we actually offer. We have a competitive and exciting sport full of athleticism, speed, great stories, and hard work. There is nothing like seeing and hearing the horses thundering down the stretch to cross the finish line — all in a time when there isn’t much of anything available for people to get excited about.
For the negative people ready to only talk about the struggles we have faced in the past with marketing, gaming, or bad apples in our sport, I would say to them that every sport has its own unique issues, and we are no different. Bringing new people into the sport of horse racing makes it stronger and helps us shine a light on all the poorly lit corners of our industry. This is more than just new paint on an old piece of wood. This is rebuilding and rebranding a great product that more people than ever would be interested to participate in. Saying the interest isn’t there is simply incorrect. I think if anything I’ve proven that to be untrue.
With the sports entertainment field significantly thinned out right now, we are doing a great job seizing the day, but I do think it’s time we strive for more.
People can say horse racing is dead, but I believe from this generational disaster we could find the fresh air we have so desperately been in search of for decades. Our future is literally right in front of us, we need to continue to push forward, be aware and stay ahead of the hurtles to come. Strengthen our core, protect our breeders, and we will see growth that most of us never thought possible.
With respect,
—Anthony MacDonald / TheStable.ca
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It looks like he has a plan. Who else does?
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If you think he is trying to help out anyone else in the industry you are crazy. One of the best marketing schemes ever. @ we only care about this industry not ourselves
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Great plan for the industry. Go to breeding farms tell them you will run up the yearling price for them in exchange for 1/2 ownership then sell pieces to uneducated people for inflated price. Great for all involved except the new owners
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GOOD LUCK MAC AT THE FAIR IN OHIO TOMORROW
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Sitting around waiting for casino or govt handouts isn't going to work anymore.
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Am
Is ripping off lots of good owners
He ripped off my pal
On trotter
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Hope he stashed some of the cash he scamed
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Anthony.......... everything out of your mouth is bullshit
You talk about entertainment value, yet horse racing is a business and livelihood for yourself. You did not start this operation to build the sport, it was to protect your future in the game and put food on the table for YOUR family. You WERE NOT making a great living in the industry with your driving and training ability. Now you are doing VERY WELL!!
Bring transparency..... ..how much have you personally made since the start of this scheme ......and how much have your owners lost........Pleas e stop with your fairy tale version of thestable.ca..... .just call it what it is......GETANTHON YRICH.ca........a nd good for you for finding enough idiots to invest in your get rich scheme
Please list all the owners that have made a profit since this started........Th anks!!
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Who gets the sell off proceeds, horses, equipment when they pull the plug? Who owns the rigs? Are the owners billed for shipping? Do the shipping proceeds go to the stable ca or some other venture owned by AM? Like the Bonnie and Clyde scheme yrs ago.
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Breeders know they are going to take a 25-30% this year. They have been in this spot before for a number of bad years. However the last few have been monster years and during the lean years they did what you should pare down. They are more worried that the overseas or borders from Canada will remain closed. The good horses always sell good and from what I've noticed the sires haven't changed all that much. Sure some GC races have been cut but why is that AM issue? He isn't signing the slips on the medium or high priced yearlings other then a couple here or there. He will still get his arsenal of cheap horses. The industry has survived the stable.ca ideas and for the most part the big breeders laugh him up when brought up in conservation. As someone stated and as AM has noted his base maybe declining and he is putting a better path forward with clients plans for yearlings. My bet he has to dumped 50-60 sooner rather then later his clients are tied up. 2020 is what it is we have all seen loses across the board. No reason horse racing shouldn't as well.
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How much has he scammed? How many owners did he round up? Will any be pissed off enough to go to the media? Is there any way this goes away nicely or is it sure to be a shit show? AM at the meadows lately got some crap with Twaddle. Hope he gets paid.
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GOOD LUCK MAC AT THE FAIR IN OHIO TOMORROW
WAS IT LUCK OR JUST PLAIN SKILL?
BRUTUS MUST BE A GOOD LUCK CHARM
5 WINNERS
1 LOSER
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Royhill, great way to gut a 2 yr old, take the heart out of one. Stupid people.
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Not to toot our horns but Iceman and I were warning novice investors about his lack of trustworthiness from the beginning. The ORC swept an investigation under the rug re: fraud concerning him. I believe they changed their website to "entertainment purposes" rather than r.o.i. based n the fact it was run as a business corporation which meant he had to provide fiscal reports.
Iceman n I were ridiculed and told to "let it play out". Well the chickens are coming home to roost. The bill padding (turnouts), owing sales cos, driving up prices on yearlings to fleece unsuspecting novice owners (seriously u could find different prices on the website for the same horse after the yearling sales), familial conflict of interest buying a 4k claimer for 22k. How much has he made off commissions on private deals? Stan Can bent over backwards when he hadn't paid thousands in eligibilty fees.
Tick tock the end is near for the snake oil salesman.
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Big day in Ohio, it this guy sets up shop he's easily top three drivers with Marrymen and Page
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Exactly right if the stable.ca wants to have owners but owners only part of the game is paying Bill's not having any injection on pitching a recommendation, suggesting a race, a driver change, while the CEO touts a great weekend or horses look like a million bucks...post the stable.ca RACING STATS! Public would like to see what their $$$ are buying them into. Completely agree Brkn H. AM touting a big haircut for breeders well no shit it happens they weren't giving refunds back to buyers who overpaid the last few years...wtf. he isn't taken serious by the US industry. Great day at the fair he was have a small sized trotter break on Thursday, go in a fair on Monday to wear hopples to race in a sire on Friday. 8 days apart. While competing again the following week. Owners get no say in the matter to skip a leg, qualify and race in the last. Royhill what has gone wrong there nw1 this was there 10k stake horse to the 100k race early July in OH. Been a dud and drive sucked today but he stopped cold...allergies, mucus, pimples and redness? Am has one worry making the clients money and it's been a 2 yr shit show minus a few out of 135 or so.
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As in perfect AM style his last video tells you how wonderful he was at Bowling Green, how well they did at The Meadows and Mohawk and blamed drivers for horses that did not do so well but as I fully expected NO mention of Royhill.
what the fuck was that race ? I flipped on TVG at 6:12, and there was the first going behind the gate for Northfields first race (605p post time)...
I had a program -- #7, Roy Hill --- Not bad looking on paper..... This horse was so green like he never trained with anyone... running them over at the 3/8ths Hunter Myers tips 3 wide at the half, goes nowhere and then pulls up.
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hay AM and his dopey investers
i gots one word fer use
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Scoped sick...full of mucus...and threw a shoe at the half.
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Not a bad concept but holds on to horses waaaaay to long. If they are not going to do get rid of them.
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Not one word of the Royhill in his latest vid. AM comes across as pure scum.
Not many words in his vocabulary.
Not sure what wrong....get him scoped....change shoes....REPEAT
Cleans up on the garbage at BORING GREEN and he is king of the world.
Does look like in his videos he is staying at some fairly decent hotels. Guessing the investors pick up the tab on that and the hotel fridge items consumed.
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re roy hill
from my unbiased vantage point i would fault the driver 100%
that drive was horrific
I have seen chuckwagon races driven better
lets hold off until another race for him
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As in perfect AM style his last video tells you how wonderful he was at Bowling Green, how well they did at The Meadows and Mohawk and blamed drivers for horses that did not do so well but as I fully expected NO mention of Royhill.
he mentioned Royhill in a Facebook video yesterday, I overheard someone watching the video and heard the horse mentioned, it wasn’t even as though I was seeking out the information and I still heard it. pay attention you’re making yourself silly.
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You got fooled Iceman? Knew it was AMac all along Just read his post only defends AMac and ThePonzi.ca
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KDDO i THINK CAN DO IT 6 TO WIN AND 6 8 BOX
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Another 2nd place finish,,,,stable is hot
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On top by many in 56.2 gets beat in 57. That is how you teach one to race
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horse is a rat,,,,,all cant be good
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You got fooled Iceman? Knew it was AMac all along Just read his post only defends AMac and ThePonzi.ca
LOL
nah
I just correct you dummies when you post something inaccurate. I don’t really care how y’all feel 😂
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bruh, I ain’t about to post personal information to you clownshoes.
all I know is when I need an update I come in here because you guys follow it so closely 😆
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i dont care if hunter myers is a good or bad driver, in the specific race being discussed he gave roy hill a rodeo ride
as for kddo, that is likely the only way to drive that squirrel
having said that i think they still pay for second
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stable is hot...at the fairs maybe. Swandre thinks he corrects but when asked real questions about the stable...crickets . Let
me know Swandre when you want to throw down real facts. But you usually head into witness protection.
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i dont care if hunter myers is a good or bad driver, in the specific race being discussed he gave roy hill a rodeo ride
as for kddo, that is likely the only way to drive that squirrel
having said that i think they still pay for second
that was nut from the 3/8ths pole to the half --- alot happened in an eighth of a mile.
Hadn't seen the horse race before -- to know if it's crazy or what.
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Think next start --- put on the front end as best possible so he doesn't run someone over.
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Did you know Anthony's last trip to Scioto he and his wife Amy travelled by private plane. Just another BS expense that will be added to investors bills. These investors must be brain dead to keep paying these inflated monthly bills and get nothing in return.
there was no air travel
there was no private plane
there was no Amy
your sources really let you down on that one.
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really he has sources???
i thought most of it was just made up
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Like always, comments but refuse to answer questions. Did you know they name streets after you....they are called one way
I’m not here to field questions, I’ve just been calling out BS posts like that one. it’s not like I was rude to the gentlemen, just letting him know he was greatly misinformed.
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Private
Plus food and drinks
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Don't worry Swandre must now all? Just doesn't like answering others questions but far be it from him to inject. As far as the stable call it what it is a week and a half of horses racing better even if some of that racing is on the fair circuit because the nw 1 or 2 go to fast at Northfield.
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Don't worry Swandre must now all? Just doesn't like answering others questions but far be it from him to inject. As far as the stable call it what it is a week and a half of horses racing better even if some of that racing is on the fair circuit because the nw 1 or 2 go to fast at Northfield.
I would say thats a stretch - he put training miles at the far into them - then on Friday - one ran second is the sires stakes in track record and they won another division with another filly and the other ones are in the buckeye stakes next week. While I get that you, Iceman and Golf are anti-stable, anti-macdonald or anti-concept, these parts seem to be missing in your posts?
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well dont abandon this thread until you let us know which trainers are procuring clients and going out on their own - inquiring minds want to know
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The real doc you must have missed the many times that I like the concept but has some flaws. Especially pointed toward owners that want out or not having a say when a horse should be sold speaking with other owners.
I didn't fail to recognize the three lumped them in with the other 55 or 60 two year olds. Just because three did well and let's not get into a horse second 5 lengths off of a track record race. Big deal the track like many tracks suspect to times. Hoosier being one last two years. Times mean nothing track to track.
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I'm not anti anything just pointing out the fraud this is. You buy shares, pay bills and expenses and if you sell your shares you get pennies on the dollar. Now how stupid does one need to be that cannot see it for what it is. I'm done with this thread as the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
You dime store loser. How is this thread gone on this long? People buy in for $500 or whatever and pay what? $40 a month? Who the fuck cares? That isn't big money to lose. If it is people shouldn't buy in. I think it would be fun to buy one or 2 shares on a horse. I might do it. I don't give a fuck if I lose such little amount of money. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less then your average yearling buyer.
Some of the yearlings are priced rather silly. They do a little bit too much dumpster diving at the yearling sales. But still. To own just a tiny piece of a horse, get the feel of it and have the thrill of watching it race, I think that's great for a lot of people.
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They have over 120 horses just 800 clients. You think most are buying in at 1 or 2 shares? That they are losing 40 or 50 a month? Most are losing more then that wagering on their horses. It's not the public betting down those stable horses. But yes you have a point in saying it's great to buy 1 or 2 shares to get into the business on the bottom floor. BUT to have 120 of underperforming horses it takes what a year or two for most to have had a taste and say was it worth it, what did I get out of it, I lose my ass, I bought the high sold the low, how can a horse have so many excuses to race poorly so much, and it was fun while it lasted. Canadian a question if this is to bring owners in for entertainment why buy yearlings that take 10 months to develop before they race, are a unknown, can develop many ailments training down, have extra costs like stake payments, shipping around, entry fees, and shipped off to other trainers. Why not buy claiming horses race weekly and expand into buying ready made horses either just after a 2yr old qualifies or when they are racing? The unknown helps one person and one person only. Iceman has plenty of points in his favor.
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Century has some racing club out west, buy into that and get a jolly or two.
With this sham stable.ca........ Anthony has guaranteed himself a very successful and secure life for him and his family. Are the investors footing the bill for his root canal later in the week in Ohio? 11.mq 11.mq
They have over 120 horses just 800 clients. You think most are buying in at 1 or 2 shares? That they are losing 40 or 50 a month? Most are losing more then that wagering on their horses. It's not the public betting down those stable horses. But yes you have a point in saying it's great to buy 1 or 2 shares to get into the business on the bottom floor. BUT to have 120 of underperforming horses it takes what a year or two for most to have had a taste and say was it worth it, what did I get out of it, I lose my ass, I bought the high sold the low, how can a horse have so many excuses to race poorly so much, and it was fun while it lasted. Canadian a question if this is to bring owners in for entertainment why buy yearlings that take 10 months to develop before they race, are a unknown, can develop many ailments training down, have extra costs like stake payments, shipping around, entry fees, and shipped off to other trainers. Why not buy claiming horses race weekly and expand into buying ready made horses either just after a 2yr old qualifies or when they are racing? The unknown helps one person and one person only. Iceman has plenty of points in his favor.
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Canadian one other point I would like to make it's only human nature for clients at some point to expect a more positive outcome? To have some monthly bills actually paid by the horses winning purses...yes a handful do 6 or 7% at best. If Universal Studios put out flop after flop eventually they will run into issues that people are not entertained anymore. If the Cincinnati Reds or KC Royals can't manage to put a major league team on the field fans aren't going to show for 81 underwhelming home games. Same as any other sport or entertainment value. Entertainment is all over the place whether the platform one chooses. I can hear by the stable videos clients are wanting more out of their horses. Which is human nature. At some point cutting the fat and buying better then what they have been "value" over the last two seasons. It hasn't worked. I just wonder with the horses he ate that how many of the just over 800 are more involved then a couple years ago? He's already putting forward for upcoming sales "what can you afford approach" so he doesn't hang himself. Remember for the most part AM picks out the horses so owners have very little say. I'm sure some clients if the money is already there get a voice.The one major fault in the stable with the transparency approach buyers can wait for 4-7 months watching horses train down. Of course cost builds in but pay now or pay later. The risk ALL falls on the stable with injuries or poor track performance.
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There’s nothing like buying a yearling, and paying the monthly training, and then the staking fees, while being told your baby is training down and is looking good.
Then comes the reality.
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Right...they all look like a million bucks until May 20th. No matter the trainer or stable.
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Trainers are worse than carnis
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Right...they all look like a million bucks until May 20th. No matter the trainer or stable.
20 years ago I had a very good friend, who owned horses....most all were racing when he bought or claimed then. Then came the trainer....pushin g for him to buy some colts, to train over the winter in Florida. He bought the line, and invested $ 40,000. November till April...." boy they are training down very good .. We will qualify them when we get up North. Up North , the trainer then pulls out a sheet of, some early and late closers. He now felt that they were not going to be competitive with Sire Stake horses...but he had found some series that ran against the Sire Stakes...and he felt the colts would do good in these races.
My friend was asked by his trainer ( who was also the driver) to put up $ 5000 to name these colts to the series. He asked the trainer.." Would there be any more fees"...."yes..probably a small starting fee" My friend made the trainer an offer..."I'll put up up
$ 4500 .......you put up $ 500....as you will be able to make more money with your 10%"
You know the trainer's answer..........."That's not the way it works "
My friend did not stake the colts in the closers.....they did not even cover their bills..could not win in NW 2....and in the Fall , my friend entered ALL 8 of his horses in the sale. Trainer was pissed, ..told him the colts were just getting good, and would be much better 3 year olds. ......( and would have helped pay his winter in Florida)
He left the business for good
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There is a good moral to that story about taking a initial beating but smart enough not to be a glutton for punishment. Owners of the stable need more say on how to cut ties with a horse vs AM only decision, dump shares on the site, or dumb share to AM. Especially dumping shares to AM because that said horse could end up on a auction site or live sale shortly down the road. Newbie clients will learn that lesson quickly as they are not educated to know for themselves.
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If your buying 1% of a yearling you probably don’t care if it makes you a profit.
It’s called entertainment cost. I know a guy that owns horses and buys a small % of a stable horse drives 3 hours each way to watch it race and is ecstatic it got a check in a race. Now how do you put a price on that?
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But remember there are owners that like it in the ASS
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But remember there are owners that like it in the ASS
You are an expert on that tmbz1
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Good for him Cigar I imagine there are more like him. Then there are more that aren't. Doesn't sound like the stable owner wants a small stable. Going out splurging on 70 yearlings a year will find someone in deep waters and the owner mentioned many times the riptide taking him into those deep waters. We know why the stable was built for entertainment reasons then keep it for entertainment reasons? People in the industry know getting to big only leads down a one way road. Burke and his group spend but if you develop a syndicated sire it always buys you 4 or 5 years.
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The stable has a good entertainment concept for people that just want a small piece of a horse. Buying all babies is never a profitable venture anyways, sometimes you win and mostly you lose $$$$$.
best strategy I ever heard was
1 yearling
1 overnight/condition horse
1 claimer
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well dont abandon this thread until you let us know which trainers are procuring clients and going out on their own - inquiring minds want to know
Mac and Mario
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Owners of the stable need more say on how to cut ties with a horse vs AM only decision, dump shares on the site,...
Is this a joke?
A friend and I own 1% of a 2FT that cost $830. Ave mo bills are $35-$45.
You think Stable Owners should have a right to dump our share?
To who?
At what price?
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That's not how it works.
What if the horse moves forward bigly and doubles in value?
Should MacDonald then be able to buy our share at a discounted price?
What you own, you own. And its worth exactly what someone will pay you for it when you want to sell it.
Miss Meringue 4 / 2 0 1 $12349
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On 3 year olds that can't earn a check in a nw 1 or 2. Yes time to move on owners need more say. Don't forget your 2yr old is still 100k plus under water for the owners who did win half of 1 share. I forgot all that experience u have racing under a stable you didn't own. Still no proof you owned a horse in your own name not under made up partnerships. It's easy post one horse you owned? Afraid?
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On 3 year olds that can't earn a check in a nw 1 or 2. Yes time to move on owners need more say. Don't forget your 2yr old is still 100k plus under water for the owners who did win half of 1 share. I forgot all that experience u have racing under a stable you didn't own. Still no proof you owned a horse in your own name not under made up partnerships. It's easy post one horse you owned? Afraid?
Bafia,
I posted several in the thread where your ass was used to mop the floor.
You know, the one you begged to get wiped clean of your lies..
I told our guy to go ahead and do it.
That one.
Yeah, me scared.
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You may now go back to incessant sobbing about your losses and getting made a fool by Anthony.
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Then name some bigshot your to afraid to be called out. Never asked to remove anything another lie by u. Your just a loud mouth with never having major skin in the game. Hmm Harness AM did fine last year. Spend that money ok I traded those shares back for my mare and I bought shares of Imalovlylady since I owned the first foal of that mare. There I one dud in Rooney. Your missing the point of sobbing but your not that intelligent to begin with so I don't hold it over you.
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Is this a joke?
A friend and I own 1% of a 2FT that cost $830. Ave mo bills are $35-$45.
You think Stable Owners should have a right to dump our share?
To who?
At what price?
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That's not how it works.
What if the horse moves forward bigly and doubles in value?
Should MacDonald then be able to buy our share at a discounted price?
What you own, you own. And its worth exactly what someone will pay you for it when you want to sell it.
Miss Meringue 4 / 2 0 1 $12349
U got ripped off
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Any Buttfuck Ohio fair updates?
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U got ripped off
I won my 1/2 share.
My personal cost = $0.
And I got a horseshoe.
I'm way ahead.
Don't be jelly.
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LOL their are 814 clients say 125 horses meaning 12,500 shares invested and some clown is posting a 1/2 share he got free. ngc3 nobody cares and its irrelevant to the post. The other 99.5 shares of a now turned fair horse out over 100k may have a different opinion. They can't even watch the fair races so much for entertainment?
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Some fake bigshot is making fun of others while he got swindled to the tune of several thousand.
He really should focus on getting Becks a decent dentist. Mouth's looking like 2 miles of bad road these days.
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forum clown stop ruining a good thread with more garbage. I've put back every penny into the industry plus a lot more but when you actually have a professional job at the CBOT for a career...it was my choice. But you wouldn't know a honest days work much less then having major skin in the game. Just lies, more lies racing under a stable in MI you had no part of, and a WHOLE fucking 1/2% of 1%. Which probably also a lie? Face it name some horses you owned legit or just be the whipping boy of not being a owner taking part on a horse forum since your imaginary friends have dumped you and you being throw out of the basement for not paying rent!
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I believe you got bounced out of your firm. That's the buzz.
You live in a cheap ass Ariz house in 112 degree heat and have no pool ?
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Did you go for the putting green option?
I'm the only AM share owner who told what the ave bills are. You got fleeced and are embarrassed and won't say.. I get it.
You're so fuckn successful your poor wife got to work for cheap to have insurnce for y'all .
Tell more lies Buttfker and you will get 100x more truth about you.
Your best move is to apologize and fuck off. It really is.
You live in 113 degrees and you have a putting green. Great career you had. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Great thread, yes. You and 5 other Simps sobbing about other people's money.
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More lies 4,000sq ft house with a pool but here you go ruining a thread with crap. Takes a shallow individual behind a keyboard to post about someone's wife that has more class in her finger tips then a nameless faceless douche on a racing forum. She has a masters plus and is lead counselor at her HS. Bounced from the firm ngc3 ngc3 please...lies. I'll post the AM bills don't care not getting fleeced and IMalovelylady just paid for the month and next. But play your games i will post facts. Also no putting green more lies. People are aware of your abuse of the truth over the last five years and nobody is sobbing over others money when pointing out truths. Something you obviously have no perception of the truth. If your looking at my fb page you know there is a pool why lie and no putting green? The thread is great until people with no skin in the game chime in and offer nothing to the facts of the thread. Which for you is any thread horse racing related. Five years of it. Sad how you treat posters but I suppose it has to be deficiency of friends through your life?
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More lies 4,000sq ft house with a pool but here you go ruining a thread with crap. Takes a shallow individual behind a keyboard to post about someone's wife that has more class in her finger tips then a nameless faceless douche on a racing forum. She has a masters plus and is lead counselor at her HS. Bounced from the firm ngc3 ngc3 please...lies. I'll post the AM bills don't care not getting fleeced and IMalovelylady just paid for the month and next. But play your games i will post facts. Also no putting green more lies. People are aware of your abuse of the truth over the last five years and nobody is sobbing over others money when pointing out truths. Something you obviously have no perception of the truth. If your looking at my fb page you know there is a pool why lie and no putting green? The thread is great until people with no skin in the game chime in and offer nothing to the facts of the thread. Which for you is any thread horse racing related. Five years of it. Sad how you treat posters but I suppose it has to be deficiency of friends through your life?
Horses first....you don't have to prove yourself on here........you post facts and truths
Anybody with over 12000 posts on this site has nothing better to do with their time or their life
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I GOT 53000 POSTS
WE LIKE IT HERE
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Horses first has more class on his fingernail than that Calhoun ahole does in entirety. What a prick
I'm sure the lying peacock horses asshole will be glad to welcome you to his Lying bustout/fake bigshot trainers and owners sobbing club. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Maybe he'll invite you to use his putting green in his 120 degree back yard. tmbz1
And if you ask nice, Iceman will invite you to his Pigeon Fest where you will dine on cowboy cut roast beef and dream of Calhoun.
Fuck off, please.
Thnaks
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i like that when calhoun updates us, the temperature goes up a degree or two each time
think it started around 112 and is now 120
it is august after all
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RWB, your right I don't need to prove myself against lies. However faceless and nameless keyboard bashing by guys like this who claimed to have me on ignore wants to mix it up well why not even though it gets boring and stale. He claims I don't own horses well champions in the filly divisions trot fudge Sundae and Bailey's Wish will prove that wrong. A nice two yr old years back Dangle the Deke. 4th place BC finisher Ruby I was secondary owner. Have plenty of others that raced well and like many in this industry a longer list of ones that raced but average or no heart. But like most on here there claims he is just a fake name with nothing better to do. Has he ever brought anything to the table owning more then a supposedly 1/2 a share or to betting? And yes it's hot in August in the valley especially when the monsoon rains have been nil. By the way pool temp is 87 still refreshing when its 115 Calhoun. But I'm sure you know as you spy through my fb page.
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Thread derailed so pass on the nonsense to what was just a subpar week for stake racing for the stable. Sales coming up not many horses going to be making finals. If they do longshots at best.
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Thread derailed so pass on the nonsense to what was just a subpar week for stake racing for the stable. Sales coming up not many horses going to be making finals. If they do longshots at best.
sales will be way off, breeders will be desperate to make deals, the stable will have over 100 yearlings this year
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who in there right mind is going to give this guy more babies this fall. The breeders still havent got there money yet and by listenin g to his videos is worried about it. How much money will he be allowed to take .Wake up People he is a Crook. Now he is getting catch drives at Northfield. Cmon
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I don't believe the OH jug sale will be off that much given the new sires. Lexington sale let's get one thing straight not one breeder from KY is sending horses north of the border they have all the connections close to home. Especially will all the mares dual eligible.
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JIIMY,,,WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOURTIME
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Another dumpster fire sale Wednesday night
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Who cares about this stable???
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Who cares about this stable???
aolt of people who bought in to this stable of horses
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With stakes payments/training fees/vet fees/shipping fees + PAYING for a sub-par driver to go all over hell's creation, to only lose $ for their "investors", this is a complete joke.
ex1: Anthony talking about the Wellwood & Breeders crown races for his mediocre not even grassroot quality horses. (great advertising for the Stable on "investors" dime)
ex2: Anthony is driving 4 hours to drive a horse & then hopping on a plane to go and drive another mediocre horse because "he has to be there, I know the horse"... (I guarantee the plane ride & hotel will not be from his driving 5% money)
If Anthony only got his 5% drivers money- he would be living in a tack room cleaning up shit...
AMAC gets money off the top from all of the "Vet work" & supplements that are marked down on the bills + skims off the top of everything.
DO YOU THINK HE PAYS HIMSELF TO GO TO ALL THOSE SALES (he shouldn't be near LEX/Harrisburg day 1 or 2, so comical).
"Investors" paid for Amac, his brother, his brothers GF and their social media worker to the sales for the videos lol, imagine how much that bill was in total for all of the sales they attended.
Good thing his "investors" like taking a bath on each & every horse.
All the horses him & his wife claimed were amazing all winter- they ended up ruining them all & NONE of them made a dime so far and alot are still turned out- just bleeding money.
They RUINED them all driving them like gokarts on that shitty farm track.
Mrs Merangue they paid 60K USD for a horse that only races cheap fair tracks, complete joke.
We have an algorithm tracking stats on all of his horses this year so we will be able to post a year end total. This should make for great reading...
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With stakes payments/training fees/vet fees/shipping fees + PAYING for a sub-par driver to go all over hell's creation, to only lose $ for their "investors", this is a complete joke.
We have an algorithm tracking stats on all of his horses this year so we will be able to post a year end total. This should make for great reading...
Will your book come with a crying towel for all the Cryin' Lyin' Jims of the world?
Or a cheap calculator so your fans can count other people's money?
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Kole hanover you are 100% right.
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Will your book come with a crying towel for all the Cryin' Lyin' Jims of the world?
Or a cheap calculator so your fans can count other people's money?
Kole speak truth tmbz1
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yes kole is on point
look there is a few decent horses in the lineup if you look hard( not many 2 yr olds)
but overall its a mugs game for investors ,i know it has not been a normal year but for the most part 2 yr olds have not been affected
most folks would say if a 2 yr old makes $50 k that is a decent year and that just covers expenses, forget about the initial yearling cost
so lets see how many top $50 k, 2 maybe 3 out of 60 or so that started training in november, those are poor odds
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so in other words if you got a junk one that hasn't sold all of its shares, he's gonna keep charging training bills until the horse is paid for then finally decide whether its worth keeping.
100% fact
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He put on a show at the Meadows today, what a joke, horses could not do at the fairs. He is an anchor as a driver, NO talent.
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Careful Kole all that truth and you get a guy with half of one share thinking he knows the stable or a guy like Swande who never wants to answer poster questions.
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And with Mark you get top shelf drivers ( that others use to drive). And a proven track record for stake horses
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Bullseye Kole it's going to get ugly from here on.
How is it going to get ugly? If the ship sinks tomorrow who loses?
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The entertainment will be lost ngc3. The great Royhill another dud nw1, forget all the expenses and purchase price the horse still hasn't made back half of the 10k entry fee into that early OH race. What a nightmare.
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With stakes payments/training fees/vet fees/shipping fees + PAYING for a sub-par driver to go all over hell's creation, to only lose $ for their "investors", this is a complete joke.
ex1: Anthony talking about the Wellwood & Breeders crown races for his mediocre not even grassroot quality horses. (great advertising for the Stable on "investors" dime)
ex2: Anthony is driving 4 hours to drive a horse & then hopping on a plane to go and drive another mediocre horse because "he has to be there, I know the horse"... (I guarantee the plane ride & hotel will not be from his driving 5% money)
If Anthony only got his 5% drivers money- he would be living in a tack room cleaning up shit...
AMAC gets money off the top from all of the "Vet work" & supplements that are marked down on the bills + skims off the top of everything.
DO YOU THINK HE PAYS HIMSELF TO GO TO ALL THOSE SALES (he shouldn't be near LEX/Harrisburg day 1 or 2, so comical).
"Investors" paid for Amac, his brother, his brothers GF and their social media worker to the sales for the videos lol, imagine how much that bill was in total for all of the sales they attended.
Good thing his "investors" like taking a bath on each & every horse.
All the horses him & his wife claimed were amazing all winter- they ended up ruining them all & NONE of them made a dime so far and alot are still turned out- just bleeding money.
They RUINED them all driving them like gokarts on that shitty farm track.
Mrs Merangue they paid 60K USD for a horse that only races cheap fair tracks, complete joke.
We have an algorithm tracking stats on all of his horses this year so we will be able to post a year end total. This should make for great reading...
almost everything in your post is wrong
now tell me, how are you feeling about this News that you’re wrong about almost everything. are you mad? are you sad? let’s discuss.
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not welfare. they were bought by charging $600 a share for a horse that cost $7,000 @ auction. Then paying for dem got dam entertain'n rats ery month even though they don't make no money.
they can be purchased for cost the day of the auction.
why wouldn’t the price go up when money has been put into the horse?
try thinking critically one time you’ll be glad you did, you’re welcome 😊
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almost everything in your post is wrong
now tell me, how are you feeling about this News that you’re wrong about almost everything. are you mad? are you sad? let’s discuss.
Ask Lyin Cryin Jim...
He knows more than anybody.
Just ask him ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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He could make it to Hoosier from the meadows 9th 3:30 in time to race he wasn´t in till the 11th 10:02 it is 320 mi. But the question is why would you, plenty of other drivers there who could drive that rat. A lot of miles for nothing, unless he charges mileage.
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as I have said depends which ones you own and what you paid for them and when
theres lots of selection and lots of shares floating around
smart people who pay attention can do ok
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Investors must be paying everything from his gas/hotel bills to his data charges on his phone.
Anthony is living the life of luxury.
Too bad he can't drive worth a shit.
Imalovelylady investors can't be happy with his decision to let a 21-1 ride the pocket when he clearly controlled his destiny off the gate and the horse needed to finish in the top 2.
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The race he was in at The Meadows went off at 3:30 so the earliest he could leave would be about 4 and I was told he was in the paddock at Hoosier at 9. Nobody in their right mind, even AM cuts it that close to drive a 30-1 shot and then finish 8th or 9th.
Let's keep an eye on him today.
Let us know when he leaves wherever he is and we'll time him to his next destination.
Sound good?
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He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.
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Swandre once again way off and Kole your correct.
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He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.
he travels more than term?
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As Promised the drive on Imalovelylady when knowing you need 1st or 2nd and he gets the horse away 3rd only had one option for the owners...first up? At this point doesn't matter if your 3rd 4th or 5th other then purse money...but was that the foal? As a owner of Imalovelylady I rather take my shot for 75k being one of the favorites then for 300k. Hoping you don't draw horrible then get a average drive. Not to mention there are 4 or 5 better horses then this small filly.
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He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.
Wrong. Drove his own car to and from the Meadows.
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Let’s get Magnun, PI to stalk the guy.
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Wrong. Drove his own car to and from the Meadows.
Thanks. That's what I understood as well.
Maybe Lyin Cryin Jim got some bad info?
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fellas, lets take a breath and take a step back
if we want to debate the basis of the stable or its performance that is all good
surely to goodness you all have better things to do than track the guys movements and the possible cost
if he does bill the owners for the travel and it is spread between 6 horses and many many owners big deal
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He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.
who is this 110k rat? I didnt know they had a $100k yearling in there?
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Miss Meringue 60K purchase at Jug sale. Training and staked to everything she is the top fair horse of the stable.
Yes Capt Morgan I did not see the last video obviously there was a change from the last video and your correct drove there and then drove back to Columbus. After watching the video a bit ago I stand corrected. I'm sure Mr Half% will call me a liar well just didn't catch up on a busy day.
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here is an idea for those clearly with idle time
go back through some of the sales catalogues from last fall and see how some of the horses who sold for $100k and more are doing
yes the stable has issues but you seem to think every horse they buy should be a stake champion
not taking shots at anyone but how would you like to have been in on some of colemans high priced ones that have not turned out after getting the best of everything
not suggesting hitting owners with a $3,000 vet bill is cool either if unjustified
and the stable has never paid $100 k for a yearling but if i am wrong please correct with the name of the horse
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Brown Jug its well known most high priced horses don't do well getting owners back there money. Proven year after year when you sell over 2,000 horses between Lexington, Harrisburg, Jug sale, and Hoosier. We talk many times of high priced brothers and sisters that can't cut the muster as previous foals. It is what is worse in the thoroughbred industry. But the other high profile stables aren't the topic. As far as the 110k it was noted back some numbers of posts about MM being over 100k with expenses nobody said anything about them buying a 100k(60K). The doctor may have missed the runup to that?
I don't think every horse should be a stake champion(not sure I ever said that) however even the law of averages one can do better buying 78 yearlings two years ago and 60 something last year. The 50 or more horses that raced at 2 or where holdovers at two not one has come back better at 3. Even Globetrotting has been a disappointment to this point. Is that because of the horses talent? One that seems to have 1.0mln or so give or take buying horses could probably do a little better buying less horses and better quality? He says he treats everyone's money like it is his? Well buying a horse using others money is one thing but keeping horses that don't justify others money when time has shown the horse won't provide nothing but a training bill.
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I saw your post at 4:10 today where you referred to a 100k rat - I just assumed that was the purchase price of a horse - usually when they refer to a horse and its cost, its usually the yearling price. Or we would need to rename Maverick the 1.2 Milllion rat with training, vet and staking probably.
Calhoun - you own 1/2 a share in this 60k yearling - have you received 40k worth of bills in the less than one year since the auction?
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I personally know 1 owner who has a horse with AM and for the month of July and July only the vet bill was $3000. He was shocked to say the least and asked for a breakdown to which AM told him he does not provide breakdowns but using your logic, spreading $3000 over 100 percent ONLY amounts to $30 per share so what the hell.
NO FCKIN WAY DID HE SAY HE DIDNT PROVIDE BREAK DOWNS
FOR REAL
THEN WHY DIDNT THE OWNER GET AHOLD OF THE VET
ASK HIM FOR A BREAK DOWN
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He won the half share but Doc your a owner right? 11 months of training and stake payments. Vet bills and entry fees. It all adds up.
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Vet bills should come from vets
Traing bills come from trainers
Every trainer I ever dealt with did it this way
You have a vet question. Call the vet you have a monthly
Breakdown
If your dumb enuff to have to have your trainer combine both
And have him tell you he can’t be questioned for a breakdown
Then Shame on you as an owner
Your a fucking PIGEON
enjoy the ASS FCKIN
JUST BY NUFF
KAY Y JELLY
IT WONT HURT AS HARD
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I never said it was you
I made a general observation i
But if it’s you and u feel guilty of being a fckin pigeon
Your a fckin nitwit
Good night
Pigeon ngc3
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Vet bills should come from vets
Traing bills come from trainers
Every trainer I ever dealt with did it this way
You have a vet question. Call the vet you have a monthly
Breakdown
If your dumb enuff to have to have your trainer combine both
And have him tell you he can’t be questioned for a breakdown
Then Shame on you as an owner
Your a fucking PIGEON
enjoy the ASS FCKIN
JUST BY NUFF
KAY Y JELLY
IT WONT HURT AS HARD
Just an observation from my experience with VIP stable several years ago:
Their statements had vet work listed that was done by the trainer and separate charges by vets listed as single line items.
If I wanted details, I had to ask for them, and then I would get a copy of the actual vet bill from the vet.
So, if you don’t ask, you won’t get.
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Just an observation from my experience with VIP stable several years ago:
Their statements had vet work listed that was done by the trainer and separate charges by vets listed as single line items.
If I wanted details, I had to ask for them, and then I would get a copy of the actual vet bill from the vet.
So, if you don’t ask, you won’t get.
egg zactly tmbz1 tmbz1
not givin details of a vet by a trainer cant be a good thing
hiding something?
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I think the real scam now is the use of other trainers, charge 75.00 per day and pay other trainer 50.00 per day. Or what ever $ figures they agree on. Great scam, Gillock and Parker do it to Bob Key all the time at the Meadows. I don´t know the exact $ they charge or pay the other trainer, but it is $ in there pocket. AM is a scam artist, what is his % of getting yearlings to races, % of horses that break even or profit. How many come back as 3yr olds and make money. What I see is a total scam.His marketing and facebook posts are slick and well rehearsed. Remember MOST con artists are good at this. Look at Trump
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Iceman, Who picks up the cost of Kelly Spencer, I would think the proper way would be AM pick up the cost as it really has no benefit to the actual shareholders. When this scam does burst into flames, it is another black mark on harness racing. If a forensic accountant ever got the books I am sure it would not be that hard for them to cut through all the BS. It still amazes me how no one in our sport will call it what it is. Since his scam started, how many horses have been purchased, how many have broken even let alone make a profit.
1. Cost of horse
2. Costs associated with each horse, training bill, shipping, vet etc all costs
3. Money made with horse, purses or sale price
Basic bookkeeping. It looks to the outsider that there is no way anyone other than AMand staff are really making any $. Fuck entertainment value is it ain´t paying it´s way.
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. If a forensic accountant ever got the books I am sure it would not be that hard for them to cut through all the BS.
It looks to the outsider that there is no way anyone other than AMand staff are really making any $.
I know a bit about forensic accounting.
Why would it be surprising to learn that likely only the trainer makes money on any single random horse?
Don't you know this already?
Why are you sobbing so hard about this?
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I know a bit about business which most on here clearly do not
Kelly spencer would be a business expense, plain and simple, the same as the accountant is
now you can debate her value/importance but that is not for owners to decide, if the CEO(amac) sees benefit than so be it
if people strongly disagree with that aspect or others of the stable dont invest, very simple
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Calhoun : I am not sobbing at all. At one time this was not a completely screwed up sport, we had owners, trainers and drivers who actually did cared about the optics. Maybe not all on the up and up, but at least stayed under the radar. Do you think AM is on the up and up.
Brown jug, I do understand how business works, I know how to classify expenses. I have also seen too many scams and it never works out for racing in general. My problem is they are fleecing people and sooner or later they will figure it out, who will have the black eye. You can only shoot your self in the foot so many times.
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jupiter, you are right it might end badly, but lets be honest horse racing in general has had a black eye almost from day one, the shadiness that goes on in every aspect and level of the game is truly and now being proven to be criminal
there are very few fools like us who would waste their time and money in this game
amac if in this group ( and why wouldn't he be to some extent ) is not the first and wont be the last
the difference is he puts it out there and with todays social media everyone can see and comment on it
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There is one dynamic you just can't spin. Buying $10K -$20K yearlings will lead you to 20 years or better data, outlining the % of 2 year olds that made money or paid their way. That % does not change based upon how the ownership is made up.
The overwhelming majority of these horses are a financial loss to their owners.
Anthony just found a way to profit from it.
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Calhoun : I am not sobbing at all. At one time this was not a completely screwed up sport, we had owners, trainers and drivers who actually did cared about the optics. Maybe not all on the up and up, but at least stayed under the radar. Do you think AM is on the up and up.
The optics have ALWAYS been bad. But the industry supported itself. Now, 95 %of owners and trainers cry about purse and subsidy cuts, all the while being fully ignorant of the laws an agreements that fund their careers an provide for their families.
MacDonald packaged a nice product that people liked. It's awful now because his horses are bad and people don't get to go and pet their 1% of a horse.
It's a great idea and, even today, $220 buys you a share of Authentic, who just won the Haskell and should run in the Derby in a week.
The valuation on him is ridiculous but people love the experience. Partnerships are thriving in NY as well.
To each his own but it's hilarious to see people drone on for months about other people's money.
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Anthony was or was going broke
How long have you been counting his money?
How would you know?
And why do you use weasel wording like "was or was going" broke?
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He was prior to The Stable a mediocre horseman who was broke and he had screwed a few guys who gave him a chance and then The Stable and he and only he seems to be doing ok.
He strted The Stable in 2015.
His 5% as a DRIVER before AND during AND after that year:
2013 .. $195,000
2014 .. $180,000
2015 .. $215,000
2016 .. $290,000
2017 .. $267,000
When was he broke?
Who did he screw?
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exporter you are right , buying cheap yearlings rarely pays off
having said that buying expensive yearlings is also no guarantee
we all know it is a crap shoot to some extent
as for amac, i would suggest he is an entrepreneur, he created something some people( not everyone ) wanted to buy
when people no longer want what he is selling he will go out of business or have to adjust and adapt, just like any business
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Why isn't he transparent on the actual selling price when they do sell/buy a horse privately? Lawmaker hmmmm how much did he pocket?
Why did he buy a nickel claimer from his uncle and divvy it out at 22k; pocket 2k and rest went to uncle. Huge conflict of interest, also arises the principal-agency problem in this case multiple principals.
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good points
some could see through that purchase from his uncle and went no where near it , but should never have happened
as for lawmaker or similar deals if as an owner you are happy with the price you receive than so be it, most deals are done with a agent or broker or sold at auction ( commission) so not a big issue as long as it is fair for all
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He strted The Stable in 2015.
His 5% as a DRIVER before AND during AND after that year:
2013 .. $195,000
2014 .. $180,000
2015 .. $215,000
2016 .. $290,000
2017 .. $267,000
When was he broke?
Who did he screw?
Anthony made over 3.5 million in purse earnings each year from 2013-2017?
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RWB no doesn't appear to according to Pathways.
2013 2,268,000 5% 113,400
2014 1,604,911 80,245
2015 1,047,444 52,372
2016 653,585 32,679
2017 776,131 38,806
Purses from driving those first three years those purses and totals probably in CDN dollars. Unless the previous numbers came
elsewhere these are straight from pathway.
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Looks like a downward spiral, can you live on 40k in the great white north. How much did the stable make in 2019, how many starts, what is the average per start.
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Obviously math isn't your strong suit.
RWB has a ? On his statement.
The question should be for Calhoun.
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Got a bad download.
Sorry about that.
Carry on
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Got a bad download.
Sorry about that.
Carry on
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Join my new fractional ownership group
Pigeon Proof Partnership tmbz1
No bills, free horseshoes and you can get 110% refunded any time.
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Obviously math isn't your strong suit.
Iceman,
I knew the numbers were impossible to be true......that is why I asked the question......... .unlike yourself I don't come on here to argue with people........I was politely asking Calhoun to review his stats because I knew they were incorrect
The reason I used over 3.5 million is obvious to anyone that understands math.......and drivers earning 5% of 3.5 million is 175k since Anthony's lowest amount was 180k in the years listed......and actually Math is my thing
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AM is better at math then all of you lol
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All the entertainment value is gone from the on track antics of KDDO. She gone...new owner for 20k
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Anthony "Burps" MacDonald
He hasn't missed a meal, paid for by the Stable.ca, since its inception
the guy is a human gas chamber
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Join my new fractional ownership group
Pigeon Proof Partnership tmbz1
No bills, free horseshoes and you can get 110% refunded any time.
Do they take 100K horses to the little fairs?
Like this weekend the 100K horse is starring @ the Googenheimersup Fair- I think he said it is only 5.5 hours from his home.
All of the 2Y.O's he touted as being amazing all winter- got ruined playing GoKart racing on his Bullring, some others have done ok(ones that he wasn't near) but about 90% of his stock is bleeding money monthly...
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Do they take 100K horses to the little fairs?
Like this weekend the 100K horse is starring @ the Googenheimersup Fair- I think he said it is only 5.5 hours from his home.
Tell the truth.... Did you know she won 20 minutes before you typed this?
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Tell the truth.... Did you know she won 20 minutes before you typed this?
We're talking about Norman Halls #1 pick, of course she won 20 mins ago
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Yeah tell the truth like the 5 years of way inflated AM driving earnings? Bad download ngc3 ngc3.
So much for providing owners with entertainment when they can't watch their horses live because
they aren't good enough having to go to a fair. Royhill highly touted poor animal still racing in a maiden
and can't fight for a check.
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Yeah tell the truth like the 5 years of way inflated AM driving earnings? Bad download ngc3 ngc3.
So much for providing owners with entertainment when they can't watch their horses live because
they aren't good enough having to go to a fair. Royhill highly touted poor animal still racing in a maiden
and can't fight for a check.
There were multiple horses racing the top stakes in Ohio at that fair yesterday, Brian Brown’s and Chris Beaver.
and secondly the owners absolutely could watch them live.
Royhill isn’t the first and won’t be the last horse who trained down well and hasn’t panned out. you’re not smart for pointing it out. it happens.
7 starters in Ohio yesterday. 6 hit the ticket
‘I should go on horseplop and talk about the 1 horse that didn’t I’ll look smart’
😂😂😂
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We're talking about Norman Halls #1 pick, of course she won 20 mins ago
Norman Hall? Isn’t he the guy who wrote the book Pedigree Matching?
I tried using that a number of years ago, and none of his top matches did much.
Is it better now?
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There were multiple horses racing the top stakes in Ohio at that fair yesterday, Brian Brown’s and Chris Beaver.
and secondly the owners absolutely could watch them live.
Royhill isn’t the first and won’t be the last horse who trained down well and hasn’t panned out. you’re not smart for pointing it out. it happens.
7 starters in Ohio yesterday. 6 hit the ticket
‘I should go on horseplop and talk about the 1 horse that didn’t I’ll look smart’
😂😂😂
Lyin Cryin Jim really MUST have got screwed BIGLY.
He's been sobbing about the same thing for years.
Guy can't stand that some nice folks have gotten involved in horse owning without needing deep pockets.
He's bragged often about how he always had "major skin" (his words) in the game and how that makes him better than the next guy.
Bitter, angry ShitHead.
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More like lying Calhoon? poon never lies well we finally put that to bed. As far as AM he is leading clients down the excuse road of allergies for 2 years now. I've been around many horses, many trainers, and vets as well. 11 years owning 55 or more horses raced and never once had a horse have allergies, horses at the tracks have allergies and if they did it was related more to the bedding amd you would see it more from having a rash on its body. Not redness and pimples the claims every time a horse is up the track. If they have allergies why is he not giving them Acetylcistine to clear that up a day before the race? My fault for pointing out a nice con running two years strong on so called ALLERGIES that were never blamed from the bedding environment of said horses. Swandre I can go on and name many of the Royhills of the stable while some of those fair horses are fair horses because they can't compete on a par mutual track.
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After last nights performance, must have pimple and redness coming out his ying yang.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. 11.mq 11.mq
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It’s really none of your business is it?
but to answer your moronic question : about the same amount as every trainer/ownership group who had a nice colt training down and under performed this year. every trainer that starts out with 20+ babies has some nice colts training down who underachieve. That’s what has happened with this colt so far, So what now? Do you have any idea how many horses get paid into grand circuit races that never win a maiden? do you have any concept of how the industry works?
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Yes all the ones with this airborne virus that is spreading allergies that can be treated before or on race day. Swandre maybe you should pass that along so clients aren't conned daily but the false reporting. If they are sick and have mucus it's legit and many barns get sick horses. Talk to trainers and vets you will get a loud laugh at allergies. Unless they are allergic to their bedding. By the way the stable with 60+ the past two years have many of Royhill's and none of the GC horses like those other stables that do. But I suppose that's the value aspect by cheap, hope for the best, and keep billing for mediocre?
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Yes all the ones with this airborne virus that is spreading allergies that can be treated before or on race day. Swandre maybe you should pass that along so clients aren't conned daily but the false reporting. If they are sick and have mucus it's legit and many barns get sick horses. Talk to trainers and vets you will get a loud laugh at allergies. Unless they are allergic to their bedding. By the way the stable with 60+ the past two years have many of Royhill's and none of the GC horses like those other stables that do. But I suppose that's the value aspect by cheap, hope for the best, and keep billing for mediocre?
why are you concerned? do you not have anything better to do with your life? I feel bad for you and your family. sad state of affairs.
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Why do you care what others have to post? Nothing better to do? Why should clients not know the truths of a stable manager who picks out horses knowing he know nothing about pedigree but mentions it on every horse he videos for clients? Also if you have AM ear ask about Really Blue Chip how does a trainer train that horse down, qualifies and may have raced poorly once or twice and then says the horse needs 200lbs. 200lbs on a young mare is huge and no weight equals no muscle. How does that horse not get turned out 45 days prior? Don't feel sad, I separate a lot of my free time to horses away from family time. I have plenty of time so not a sad state of affairs. Why do you care?
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Actually Swandre no need to answer and you have some drives coming up soon at the Meadows.
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Why do you care what others have to post? Nothing better to do? Why should clients not know the truths of a stable manager who picks out horses knowing he know nothing about pedigree but mentions it on every horse he videos for clients? Also if you have AM ear ask about Really Blue Chip how does a trainer train that horse down, qualifies and may have raced poorly once or twice and then says the horse needs 200lbs. 200lbs on a young mare is huge and no weight equals no muscle. How does that horse not get turned out 45 days prior? Don't feel sad, I separate a lot of my free time to horses away from family time. I have plenty of time so not a sad state of affairs. Why do you care?
the truths? LOL
you guys are wrong about 98% of the time
the truths lol, best laugh I’ve had all week mate, thanks
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Box this asshole up and send him back over the river. He will wind up, up shits creek. First thing STOP driving, you have no talent. Next STOP the bleeding, get rid of the junk, ALL of them. Apologize to all the people you fucked over. Get a JOB.
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98% yeah that's not the case especially most of the wordage comes from the stable video themselves. Excuse after excuse but non more then the 2 years of the theory of allergies. Swandre
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Once again you missed my point/questions as you are the one who claimed that the Mt. Gilead fair was jammed with top stakes horses from the Brown and Beaver barns...which is very far from the truth unless you can point to more than the 2 Beaver ran in the 7th race.
Simple question that requires a reasonable answer rather than your ranting. Problem with you is that you try and make a point and when questioned with facts you resort to name calling rather than admit you were wrong...sad but true
Brian Brown’s 2 year old filly who finished 2nd in the $150,000 next gen series just got beat at a fair (by a stable horse)
do I think he’s a dummy? absolutely not. these things happen with 2 year olds.
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Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:
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MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs but the retard NEVER EVEN PAID the $500 to keep her ELIGIBLE for the FAIR FINALS...
tmbz1 Man OH Man, what a gameplan! tmbz1
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Brian Brown’s 2 year old filly who finished 2nd in the $150,000 next gen series just got beat at a fair (by a stable horse)
do I think he’s a dummy? absolutely not. these things happen with 2 year olds.
Didn't the Stable pay $10K twice for the Next Gen stakes but only raced 1 because they entered a horse who wasn't eligible?
You think Browns horse was all out for the fair race?
You know Burps MacDonald was, he ruined all their expensive yearlings playing GoKartBumper Cars all winter over that hacktrack at their farm.
Very rich of Swandre the Defender to talk about the Next Gen stakes when that is another fine example of the "tight ship" Burps runs...
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He is a Genius. Never paid her but paid Roy Hill into that race for 10000 and lets not forget about paying all of those other ones into the Hambo and other big races . They should call him the tidy bowl man just keeps on flushing money down the drain.
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Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:
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MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs
You have taken the sin of counting other peoples money to new heights, worse than Cryin Lyin Jim.
"Shipping all over" ... you dolt... it's 65 miles between Gileas and urbana. Or maybe the horses are riding private planes?
He had 10 run Monday, ,, 10/4-2-4.
They are what they are... MM has managed $16k on 3 wins.
Anyway, keep sobbing. I'll check back sometime to see how you are holding up.
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Sorry to tell you but the horses did not go from Urbana to Mt. Gilead....in case you do not know he is stabled at Northfield so it would be interesting to see what he charges to ship a horse to the fairs....if it is like his vet bills the private plane may be cheaper
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can you find out the shipping cost?? lots of other people's money counters would be interested.
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More lies by Calhoun probably another bad download?? Fair 2-1-2. Northfield 2nd and 6th. Yonkers 2nd. Mohawk 3rd, 10th, 9th, and 9th.
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Where did AM race on Monday where he had all 10 1,2,3? MM has $16K won this year not in 3 wins.. you must be taking lessons from Swandre
ok,,, if you say so... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
have fun counting
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ok,,, if you say so... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
have fun counting
u got horses with stable
calhound?
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u got horses with stable
calhound?
yes, i won 1/2 a share on a MMA fight.
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yes, i won 1/2 a share on a MMA fight.
so you don't have any horses then... Gotcha
My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd, she was around 18K USD. We don't take her to the fairs...
You have a mind-share, sorry- half of 1, same as half a brain
Merangue made 16K but will still be in the minus plus will never recoup the 60K Usd paid for her.
You actually mean in total for the year, with bills/training, she will have MADE any profit? It'll just be Burps & the gang cashing checks- the owners won't see a dime of it (they just pay for his hotel/gas/food every day + his mortgage/vehicles).
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ok,,, if you say so... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
have fun counting
no Andrew- you say so
just like ALL of the fake purse $ you were touting Burps as making, in reality he was LUCKY to pull in 40K a year from his 5%.
Do you realize that he is in debt up to his eye balls?
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Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:
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MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs but the retard NEVER EVEN PAID the $500 to keep her ELIGIBLE for the FAIR FINALS...
tmbz1 Man OH Man, what a gameplan! tmbz1
where did he say that (not good enough for buckeyes and didnt pay to keep her eligible for Fair final)??
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Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:
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MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs but the retard NEVER EVEN PAID the $500 to keep her ELIGIBLE for the FAIR FINALS...
tmbz1 Man OH Man, what a gameplan! tmbz1
She likely wouldn’t have made the fair finals so who is the retard?
the fair circuit is $500 for the year, it’s a great place to tighten horses up and get them some experience. Not to pay 20 yearlings into the finals at another $500. the finals are literally for horses who race the fair circuit all summer. not for horses racing in them between buckeyes.
thought ya had something there didn’t you? so sorry
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Box this asshole up and send him back over the river. He will wind up, up shits creek. First thing STOP driving, you have no talent. Next STOP the bleeding, get rid of the junk, ALL of them. Apologize to all the people you fucked over. Get a JOB.
yeah he might stop doing what he’s doing because some douche on the internet said so 😂😂😂
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TRDOC was mentioned in the video.
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Sorry to tell you but the horses did not go from Urbana to Mt. Gilead....in case you do not know he is stabled at Northfield so it would be interesting to see what he charges to ship a horse to the fairs....if it is like his vet bills the private plane may be cheaper
you would literally be interested to see what people charge to ship horses you don’t own around wouldn’t you? why would you choose to publicly announce how sad your life is? you didn’t have to do this friend. good luck though
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The guy tells you people for entertainment only!
WTF are you all bitching about?
If you don’t like the stable go buy one on your own and see what the bills are like. He buys yearlings at a lower price to compete against big breeders and stables in Ohio, not easy. So he is taking chances for people at fraction of what it would cost someone to do it on their own. His bills are what they are.
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The guy tells you people for entertainment only!
WTF are you all bitching about?
If you don’t like the stable go buy one on your own and see what the bills are like. He buys yearlings at a lower price to compete against big breeders and stables in Ohio, not easy. So he is taking chances for people at fraction of what it would cost someone to do it on their own. His bills are what they are.
So he has to rip people off cause it’s entertainment?
I don’t think anybody signed up to get bent over
Fuck this guy sounds like a tool
Fuck u 2 geno when was ur last win 2016? Last year don’t count u caught a case for that one ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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So he has to rip people off cause it’s entertainment?
I don’t think anybody signed up to get bent over
Fuck this guy sounds like a tool
Fuck u 2 geno when was ur last win 2016? Last year don’t count u caught a case for that one ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Fuck you too faggot. Rumor is you like little Asian boys ngc3 ngc3
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Fuck you too faggot. Rumor is you like little Asian boys ngc3 ngc3
Here pigeon pigeon pigeon
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My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd, she was around 18K USD. We don't take her to the fairs...
You Mommy must be very proud of the both of you.
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You Mommy must be very proud of the both of you.
That 1/2 share of the also ran towers above those.
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Why is he apologizing for Path of Totality, he had no fuckin' intention of winning and getting out of that class, look at the drive. Nothing wrong with staying in the same class and picking up cheques, but coming across that way in your video makes you a scumbag.
And why are you always burping in your videos!! ngc3 ngc3
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That 1/2 share of the also ran towers above those.
He played the Mommy card.
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My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd, she was around 18K USD. We don't take her to the fairs...
yes but is that because she is in Ontario and there is no fair racing?
there is after all Dresden, Leamington, clinton, and their purses are about the same as fair racing - as is their attendance
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iceman, some truth in what you say
he really is not good at selecting yearlings based on pedigree and I just assume for the price confirmation is usually not great
in fairness his driving is not bad , he does fine at the meadows, I am not suggesting he is gingras or sears but he is not much worse than many others
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The way I see it there is 3 parts to TheStable. Part 1.) Anthony thinks he can pick out a winner at the sales when in reality he has no clue. Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 3.) Anthony doing the driving nullifies any chance of a cheque because he can't drive. So if you add all of the parts together it can only end up bad for the investors. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.
so Harry Poulton was part of the drug game with Ontheroadagain and Matts Scooter - is that your assertion ? their records are tainted?
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At the end of the day Anthony trains all of these horses in all of the stables. These guys do as they are told when to trian how to shoe and when to enter them .They are just beards for him
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Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.
Apologies - I thought part 2 (the two parts of it) suggested that - sorry
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Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.
Apologies - I thought part 2 (the two parts of it) suggested that - sorry
Maybe just a coincidence but Poulton firgot how to train when they started testing for soda. Always a few 50# bags around that barn
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See the stable is starting to sell off a few on hoifbid and ongait.
Are they toast, has any they sold drove on?
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well according to most on here they should be buying them all
cant do anything but improve on those stable horses...right
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What happened to all the crying experts who were counting other people's money on a daily basis?
Maybe busy counting their own after taking a haircut this week?
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What happened to all the crying experts who were counting other people's money on a daily basis?
Maybe busy counting their own after taking a haircut this week?
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Any of those butt fuck Ohio backyard fairs racing through the winter?
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He must be quarantiiiiiing in Ontario.....Thurs day and today , Friday, and no doubt returning to the States Sunday or Monday, and will be driving here again....with no quarantine required.
He has 13 drives at Woodbine Mohawk , Friday and Saturday..includi ng Ramona Hill
I thought Canada ( and the States) had strict crossing rules with respect to the COVID virus. Yannick at least crossed over 2 weeks in advance and followed the rules. But Andrew raced here mid week. He must be driving horses tied to Woodbine Management..or their close friends
My brother has been trying for 3 months to go back to Canada to see his terminally sick cousin, and has been denied all 3 times, even though he had a copy of a negative test
I guess he should have told them he was going back just to drive a few race horses.
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yannick did not get here 2 weeks before he drove. just goes to show you weg doesn't really care about protocall as long as you have enough money to buy your way past it
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I thought yannick was up there for a bit!!!! He mentioned it after an interview how the process worked in canada cane up there was interviewed sn was granted!!!!!!
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yannick drove august 14 at hoosier and drove august 22 at Mohawk I don't think that's 14 days as per Ontario protocal
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He must be quarantiiiiiing in Ontario.....Thurs day and today , Friday, and no doubt returning to the States Sunday or Monday, and will be driving here again....with no quarantine required.
He has 13 drives at Woodbine Mohawk , Friday and Saturday..includi ng Ramona Hill
I thought Canada ( and the States) had strict crossing rules with respect to the COVID virus. Yannick at least crossed over 2 weeks in advance and followed the rules. But Andrew raced here mid week. He must be driving horses tied to Woodbine Management..or their close friends
My brother has been trying for 3 months to go back to Canada to see his terminally sick cousin, and has been denied all 3 times, even though he had a copy of a negative test
I guess he should have told them he was going back just to drive a few race horses.
Sorry about your cousin and not being able to visit. I assume your brother is not a Canadian Citizen because they can't refuse him entry if he is.
FWIW,my experience over the last 6 months....Canada has much tougher guidelines when crossing.
US border patrol just ask the same questions they always do, Where were you/doing what/how long were you out of country/where you going now? ...and that's pretty much it. No questions re: COVID at all.
Canadian side (CBSA) is much stricter. Have to enter the customs building and be thoroughly interviewed by Health Canada officials. After getting temperature taken, instructions include drive straight to quarantine destination with no stopping to use bathroom of get fuel. Also had to describe layout of my son's house, if I would have my own bathroom and bedroom while there, what we were doing at dinner times and to avoid eating together or sitting in same room together.
Sometimes I cross just to pick up medication and come right back within the hour. Sometimes I stay at my son's overnight.
Not sure how early Yannick got to Canada but he is subject to the same restrictions and penalties covered by the Quarantine Act, Canadian Citizen or not.
As Earl said, he must have agreed to follow strict guidelines laid out for him, for Canada to let him mingle at Mohawk before his 14 days were up.
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If I am working the border and a little guy (Yannick) who talks like redneck-wood elf, tells me he is quarantining in a stall within a barn. I let him through.
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Check out this link
Apparently Andrew HAS been following the guidelines set by Canada...NOT by WEG
This was just posted on the Standardbred Canada site
https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/9-11-20/mccarthy-set-drive-canada.html
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Royhill is the one they paid $10 000 to enter the New Generation stakes?
imagine the bill that Burps' made up for just that weekend alone, for his "clients" to handle.
At least ol'Roy got to race, just not very good.
They paid 10K for a filly to enter it(after the original one they had lined up for the NG stakes wasn't good enough) only to later find out she wasn't eligible.
It'd be a little different but HIS TOP STOCK can't even compete among Grassroot level horses, all of the horses he touted all winter as killers- Burps' & his wife ruined them trying to push them WAY before they were ready on that shitty little not-even a half mile track they use.
They would be better off using real trainers, not johnny mackinnon who is just a "yes man", his brother has the biggest head in the world, walks around with a giant head on himself, couldn't be a driver because of it.
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Kole your right on again. Remember Anthony gave Johnny a positive test a few years ago and has come back time after time. They only want yes men as he is a control freak and tells the stables trainers what to do with their horses.They are all YES MEN and when he comes around that shit hole farm they stop everything and the Kissing Ass begins!!!!!
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What happened to all the crying experts who were counting other people's money on a daily basis?
Maybe busy counting their own after taking a haircut this week?
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harness hasits up and downs
most on here speak ill of Anthony
its just racing
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so I take it no one knows what Royhill sold for and here I thought this forum knew everything
Got a full tank of gas to get to the next fair and a bag of hockey pucks for Roy!!!
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I don’t know the guy at all but I do follow the videos and horses just out of curiosity. On the topic of Royhill; anyone who has ever been around horses knows you can be around one you think has the talent but if they don’t have the will/guts to do it you’re up shits creek real quick. Can’t fault someone for that.
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Royhill must have went the way of private bailout didn't hear mention of it other then he was tired of the horse. Couple weeks back KDDO took the same path. Fair goers MO MO and Desperdo they gone on ongait.
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Royhill must have went the way of private bailout didn't hear mention of it other then he was tired of the horse. Couple weeks back KDDO took the same path. Fair goers MO MO and Desperdo they gone on ongait.
Oversold , they peaked qualifying day
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SDST2009 the thing about Royhill he wasn't even a horse sold out training down. There was 35% or more before that payment was to be made for 10k for that Ohio race. AM pleaded the horse had the talent to be entered but he wasn't wanting to be the one throwing 3500 into that stake payment. Especially being May and he still had a bunch of horses and shares unsold to make stake payments. So he coaxed enough people to buy the balance of those Royhill shares. So maybe you don't know within the next 6 weeks what you have but a seasoned trainer does know what's under the hood especially on a good animal. Your putting up 10k you better dam know what's under the hood.
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Looks like a private sale to ; The Panic Stable of Il. on 9/4
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Which was the primary owner of Swandre. So a charitable price or maybe he already owned a chunk. Big webinar tonight biggest sale for the Stable is next Friday. Probably because they were 0-fer at 2 and 3 yr olds coming back for PA, NY, NJ, IL, and IN.
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yannick did not get here 2 weeks before he drove. just goes to show you weg doesn't really care about protocall as long as you have enough money to buy your way past it
These cross-country drivers have "coyotes" who row them across lakes in Maine an New Hampshire and Vermont and they go back and forth. No better than Mexican human traffic except it's done with money or bush planes out of quebec, The Canadian authorities look the other way. Passports not stamped and nobody does nothing. Yannick is the boldest liar I have ever seen. Also the biggest phony and I do not trust him as far as I can throw him. He will do ANYTHING and say anything to make a buck. The whole quarantine story is a lie 100%. One day they will all get sick and they'll blame it on a groom sneezing in the stall. It would be typical that harness racing is where covid started and will start again because the sport is now a disease itself.
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Royhill needs shoeing change and will be back on track to reaching his true potential. My not be a grand circuit horse but should make a couple hundred grand.
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My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd,
How's your filly doing big time guy??
Mine's 8/3-1-1 $20,000
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20k owns a half share don't spend the whole 100.00 in one place tmbz1
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20k owns a half share don't spend the whole 100.00 in one place tmbz1
Minus the $30 monthly fee for maintenance...
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I know was just giving the guy some hope like his hundo was going places...
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somewhere they do go in 204
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I know was just giving the guy some hope like his hundo was going places...
How about I send you $200 so you can get that son of yours a Dermatologist appointment?
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ngc3 more lies full of lies but we all know that already. Don't worry you can troll my fb page in a month when he gets back on the ice for some HS hockey.
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9 yearlings “purchased” Friday at the Ohio sale totalling more than $170,000.
Have the 40+ 2 year olds this year made $170,000?
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Continue to be non factors at Mohawk. Top purchase cardinal sin buying to a sibling that was their best horse in the past. Stable maybe the top stable next year with fair wins as the racing gets tougher. If they couldn't buy good stock yesterday because of price then they will get shutout as well with Ky/Oh eligible in Lexington. So will have to buy cheaper horses at the Buckeye sale.
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Continue to be non factors at Mohawk. Top purchase cardinal sin buying to a sibling that was their best horse in the past. Stable maybe the top stable next year with fair wins as the racing gets tougher. If they couldn't buy good stock yesterday because of price then they will get shutout as well with Ky/Oh eligible in Lexington. So will have to buy cheaper horses at the Buckeye sale.
LOL
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ngc3 more lies full of lies but we all know that already. Don't worry you can troll my fb page in a month when he gets back on the ice for some HS hockey.
Lyin Jim,
It's been a while since you counted my money.
Can you count my money again?
How's the filly doing?
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could you please update me on how many burke purchased and the cost
also brian brown and chris beaver as well
thank you
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The stable end of season report on all 2 and 3 yr olds out in Oct. Already worse then last year.
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Not sure but didnt Weaver say if they did well in OH and PA finals that they would be above par after losing millions during the closures a few weeks ago? So sounds like their two and 3 year olds doing well. How many sires have they created? When you do that you extend 5 to 6 years before developing another sire. But they have had many in the last few years. So I think Burke and boys are ok.
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Brown Jug since you asked and went off topic of what this thread is really about NOT counting money but the fact having a rather large stable based on entertainment and value as it gets a client or new person as a owner. Nothing wrong as it provides some sort of transparency as horses train down. But it's the double talk when horses finally get sold because its not right to be taking that money when the horse will never perform. So 8 get sold off for many reasons when 40 more are in the same exact boat. Sorry no value at 83CDN enter point or 66US as a entry point per day for a horse. Some top trainers don't even charge 66 a day in the states and a place like the Meadows is 45 on average. A trainer in the game with their owners know when to cut the fat. You have to or the business with eat you up in a matter of time. So you named Burke and I'll throw in Takter. The top 2 spenders at most yearling sales. I can only give you what I can find and why they can still buy in bulk.
2019 earnings Burke 21,414,000 starts 4862. Ave a start 4,404. 2018 21,508,000 4699 $4577. 2017 21,096,000 4504 $4683. A average of 4550 a start gets a lot of bills paid but do they get back purchases...good question. Only answer I can give Check Six, Crazy Wow, Southwind Frank, Sweet Lou, What the Hill, and Yankee Cruiser are all syndicated studs. So pay days like this and incoming breeding rights definitely make the case as well as being 1.0mln plus earners. That's not even taking into effect the many mares and their residual value.
Takter 2018 8,616,000 653 $13,194. 2017 8,270,000 674 $ 12,270 a start. Pretty good 3 times the average with many fewer horses but again high priced animals. Does Bar Hopping, Father Patrick, Trixton, The Bank, Uncle Peter, and I'm sure I has missed some for these did he get into Always B Miki?
Beaver does well with his stock and rotates out keeping some older. Brian Brown to me came out of nowhere it seems. At least I didnt know the name a few years ago until his two pacing stars.
Point is no one is counting money and things are done differently in a big money industry with low Hope's for ROI. But it's how you treat your owners money and not contradict your statements on live video. Sure maybe people may want to spend 25 a month on 1% of a horse but owners that want out can only go to the stable to sell. Most of the time in AM words dumping shares. When that horse should go to a sale for a fair price. The stable gets away with mediocre or poor overall numbere because its freshly new. There haven't been many clients added over the last 2 years. AM had to plend with people for these upcoming sales because of so many shares going unsold on poor horses bought last year. You paint yourself into a corner not selling them early and giving clients months to watch them train for free. They are animals not machines and it's hard for a young horse to perform in groups and look good week after week. Plus training up in Ont past couple brutal winters on a small track less then a half not good on the knees, bones, and ligaments. Many injuries past two years. I like the concept of the stable but has some holes is all. Big stables they just churn alone sell what doesn't work. Then look to find something's that do.
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Non factor in the Ontario Golds, Ontario Grassroots & hell- even the prospect series lol
Zero factor in any decent stake race this year, his 3 year olds ALWAYS come back useless
I guess they did good at a couple fairs this year, the "clients" paying for his hotel room/vehicle/gas/food to be travelling to Canada & back to Ohio all summer. Plus paying for him to go to a bunch of sales/lodging (just last year he took 3 of them to all the sales for "videos")
Ol'Burps is having a good run for himself, fck the "clients"- they don't know nothing
Too bad he peakes his horses for the Open houses & qualifiers, they can't ever seem to cut it, must be all the allergies that only his horses have been fighting.
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valid points
i think the concept is good but the execution has been poor
happens to all kinds of businesses
the customer ultimately decides
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That is true and constructive criticism never hurts and you can tell being burned last year he changed up the sales part this year. Didn't dip at the blooded sale, didn't bother with Goshen, stuck to the horses he looked at but Ohio will be a tough place to win if these new sires bring a A game. I've many many mistakes in this game and number 1 was thinking if you had a really really good horse early and many offer to sell...sell it's the only way your going to stay afloat buying yearlings. Mistake number two never get to big your having a few nice horses don't pay for all or parts of 15. With a nice career job your either going to net out paying the government or writing off losses to offset. At least that money u know where it went to your trainers and grooms. Last stay with what got you there for me trotting fillies. Pacers forget it and colts little success. Last Hambo is a dream should stay a dream lol. Paying all those stake payments like BC are a waste only helps sale price of a good horse.
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true
ohio will be challenging and dont forget more will be sold at lexington and black book
people stepping up as that program seems solid while new york, new jersey and to some extent pa are unsure what next will will bring
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Yes I think that's why the Burke group may have spent more yesterday. Will continue to spend in home state PA while I agree NY may see some steep dropoff. People will still buy NJ for MH and new sire Walner thinking they are grand circuit anyway. The next sword to fall will be the election if Biden wins and they can grab the senate they will print money for the states. If Trump wins they will get some money but is it to plug holes now or future holes later? The economy isn't finished with future struggles in my opinion.
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business definitely good for burke stable. they spent a shade over 700k yesterday, and were the winning bidder on several high profile horses that looked outstanding. to spend that much, the plan is for the seasides and dragons to be grand circuit horses. only so much money in the OSS program to go around no matter how great it is, and that crew knows this as well. some smart business guys there.
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Is there upsell or finders fees on these yearlings or are shares available at purchase price?
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Wiggles - that looks like the cost roughly of what they paid for them?
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The only upcharge is for shipping to ONT and a charge to get to sale and be at the sale to get the videos out to clients. I can't find the email for the cost. The only time I bought a thoroughbred with Team Valor Barry Irwin had a 5% charge above the yearling cost or the private purchase. Don't think the stable ever did that nor currently do.
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guess delaware is not your regular ole fair
he had a BRUTAL day today
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Only saw one the parking and 56 to the half of Compass Rose. Held 4th however
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Soon to be ThedefunctStable. Man they had a horrible year. Take the money and run Anthony.
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that will be interesting
of course he did it before until getting ushered out
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Hoping AM can break his couple days of whiffs at the fairgrounds. Imalovelylady has two races left to better her year
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AM was asked today at Delaware how many of his 150 horses covered their training bills this year and his answer was "not many" which is probably Pig Latin for NONE!!
well the three or so that made over $60k must have covered?? his answer seems fair and honest -
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My Jazz wins the 4th and on the way back AM is so buzzy looking around to see if anyone is looking he runs right up the back of David Miller who was hopping off his horse. This clown is a liability and danger on the track.
relax pal - instead of your usual negative BS why not point out he looked over, seen the other horse on the run, left with a filly who doesnt normally cut it, wins, runs her bankroll up to circa $125k (and basically took home $75k of $100k in purses today).
Give the guy a little credit - your comment about a liability on the track is BS
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Real doc, I think your confused it wasn't what happened at the start or during the race it happened after the race was won. I didn't see it but heard Roger talking about it when the horses finished up more toward heading back to the backside. I'm sure that is what Iceman is referring to.
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Also Real Doc, your math is off somewhat of the 106k in purses it's actually 39,500. Not 75k?
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iceman
you make some good arguments but you are grasping here
the guy had a first and second so just let it be and move on
he is bound to have the odd good day
i dont see miller off any of his drives
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Also Real Doc, your math is off somewhat of the 106k in purses it's actually 39,500. Not 75k?
probably right - there sir
I think two heats of $50k - - $37k
still not a bad day
and yes I saw him run into David afterwards - call it A.D.D.
all good
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iceman
you make some good arguments but you are grasping here
the guy had a first and second so just let it be and move on
he is bound to have the odd good day
i dont see miller off any of his drives
precisely
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Maybe, maybe 3 made $60K so far but at the rate he charges I am not so sure that $60K covers their bills and if all you can point to is 3 out of 160 thats pretty sad. AM also said that he will have way less yearlings this year than last...wonder why? Could it be that suckers are getting wise to his scheme?
a little sarcasm, you said not one made money this year ZERO in caps - I suspect that there are more than zero you stated; two alone who raced today have, especially after today and I am sure there are more - certainly not enough and maybe way less yearlings this time around - but based on the last sale there were quite a few they bought? I would remind you that the buyer choses whether they want a share in a horse or not; I am sure some have had positive returns as they chose correctly- so perhaps they are the ones coming back??
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Like I said AGCO give McMaster a pass for previous years and he is lookin for clients. Even in his worst years he will out train AM.
but will he outtrain you ?
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My Jazz wins the 4th and on the way back AM is so buzzy looking around to see if anyone is looking he runs right up the back of David Miller who was hopping off his horse. This clown is a liability and danger on the track.
What a fuckin bitch you are. You are the lowest form that exist and hopefully go extinct soon.🐀.
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This goes to the real doc and golfhbm referring the 3 over 60k? As of today there is just one over that number My Jazz 117,000. Next with a second today IMALOVELYLADY 38k. Next in CDN dollars Tipsy in Dixie 32k. That's of the 49 on the books and not counting the ones that sold so far. One that sold privately Lincoln Hanover after a qualifier for a profit. 2 year old only. If anyone wants to use a base for the horses that were bought last year in Sept or first week of Oct. On the track for a year and using the bottom base charge to a owner then 31k for twelve months. That doesn't count a single extra like staking, entry fees, vet bills, then the additional of paddock fees, transportation, and so on. Let's give the ONT horses a chance to earn some money with more racing ahead next 30 days. Then a recap. I'm sure Swandre will point out I have to might time on my hands. Maybe...but 2020 looking worse then the subpar 2019 two year old crop. Which didn't pan out at 3.
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horses first
you have some correct points
however if you think amac is the only one that has had a bad year do your homework
lots of owners and trainers having a bad year
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Again Brown Jug this thread is on the stable. If anyone wants to start a thread on another I would due the same due diligence. The stable is about transparency so just being transparent. You used the word bad the numbers are saying much worse then bad. 1 so far over 100k none over 50k. There is still a we bit of racing left to improve. That's on 49 current and what 10 or so sold off? Grim! It will mean 47bto 48 will be negative purchase price and a full year of expenses. To start another year of the next six months of turnout, training, and stake payments before they have a idea what they will look like at 3. The top 3yr olds from last year Globetrotting, Comprass Rose DC, Spend that Money, and I guess Harness AM all sire stake horses. Subpar
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I will admit I could be wrong but where did I use the word zero in Caps?
I think he bought 9 at the sale but it was his words, not mine, that there will be far less yearlings this year. Also, if you listen to his videos he is asking people to commit money upfront this year before he buys yearlings. I know for a fact that the reason he did that is that he told a friend of mine who is an investor that he cannot be on the hook for shares unsold so he needs to know how big his pot is which will be much much smaller than in past years.
AM was asked today at Delaware how many of his 150 horses covered their training bills this year and his answer was "not many" which is probably Pig Latin for NONE!!
Sorry, you said NONE not ZERO - think they are the same. Anyway, moving on
As to him asking for commitment - I would have to agree - who goes to a sale (especially now) and risks having all those shares unspoken for - I would think almost all buyers go to a sale knowing what they have to spend or what's committed to and not buying and hoping to sell?? The question is, did your friend the investor come back for more this year or move on?
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Brown Jug yes Cassi Coleman probably having a worse year. Had some monsters during the qualifiers and then soon disappeared. Nick Surick and Rene Allard having worse years then anyone with possible jail time and NO chance of training again. So buy those standards it could be worse?? I'm not sure what Erv and Andy sent out this year around the country but it's possible for some reasons their two year olds maybe subpar as well.
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well the three or so that made over $60k must have covered?? his answer seems fair and honest -
Don’t forget acquisition costs the horses weren’t free
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I guess I continue to fail to see the problem here.
It's patently obvious these most of these horses do not make anyone any money. In fact, only a few do. My Jazz looks to be one; the other filly that was 2nd today seems to be holding her own; he has a couple other ones that have won some Grassroots in Ontario, looks like the Delaware filly is going to be ok in her division.
Look, I'm speaking from someone who has 1 or 2 that we would love to see make some money, but just love being in the game. I don't understand the vitriol here. We are in the business hoping to make some money but not relying on it because it's something that we like to follow and love having a little skin in the game. I highly doubt, and sincerely hope, no one buying into TheStable.ca are putting their last damn dollar on this. Do you see anyone else in the industry stepping up to encourage other ownership? Sure, I could contact the Takters or the Svanstedts and see how I could get into the business but I better have about $500K of disposable income to do so. What is the harm in letting the average person own a piece of a racehorse a) that isn't bankrupting them and b) is entertaining as shit no matter what happens, a problem?
Let me also state I have never had a horse with the Stable, but my family's been in the business for 40+ years as a hobby owner.
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I guess I continue to fail to see the problem here.
It's patently obvious these most of these horses do not make anyone any money. In fact, only a few do. My Jazz looks to be one; the other filly that was 2nd today seems to be holding her own; he has a couple other ones that have won some Grassroots in Ontario, looks like the Delaware filly is going to be ok in her division.
Look, I'm speaking from someone who has 1 or 2 that we would love to see make some money, but just love being in the game. I don't understand the vitriol here. We are in the business hoping to make some money but not relying on it because it's something that we like to follow and love having a little skin in the game. I highly doubt, and sincerely hope, no one buying into TheStable.ca are putting their last damn dollar on this. Do you see anyone else in the industry stepping up to encourage other ownership? Sure, I could contact the Takters or the Svanstedts and see how I could get into the business but I better have about $500K of disposable income to do so. What is the harm in letting the average person own a piece of a racehorse a) that isn't bankrupting them and b) is entertaining as shit no matter what happens, a problem?
Let me also state I have never had a horse with the Stable, but my family's been in the business for 40+ years as a hobby owner.
Good post.
You won't get any cogent response from these people who - for 55 of 73 pages of this thread - have done the following:
1. Counted other peoples money
2. Denigrated MacDonald
3. Attacked people, including me, who disagreed with their venomous posts
4. Shut the Fuck Up like cowards when Calhoun's filly started winning.
5. Went back to attacking MacDonald and counting Calhoun's money.
These people are flat out jealous that fans can get a piece of a horse for a modest cost and enjoy that experience without the massive EV Loss they endure.
It's not dissimilar from the hatred they have for the big winning stables. They can't compete but wont admit it and call every successful person a cheat.
Fuck 'em.
No less than 4,500 people own a share of Authentic, the Kentucky Derby winner.
Any argument that claims that is anything but good for the sport is fucking retarded so you won't hear a word. So fucking what if the share percentage is minuscule and the valuation is ridiculous. It's the experience being sold, not the microscopic chance at making big money.
Lyin' Cryin' Jim and his barbarian horde of attack dogs claim you must have "serious skin in the game" to have a valid opinion.
Fuck them.
After MacDonald's first year, 76 out of 78 came back for more in year 2.
His only problem is his horses are slow and he's just not very good. Big fucking deal.
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It's $26/month + ~$8/month forshipping/incidentals.
or, about $1.12 a day.
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Poon or Mr 1/2% woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning ngc3. A little piss and vinegar in hi s step or touched a angry trigger? Nobody has or at least I haven't condemned the theory of the stable. On many occasions am a fan of it. But there are faults and that is what the thread is about minus the Purple dude early on...has he been banned by the way? Poon you could have cheered on my stable horse who was second yesterday? People like to go on a ride just don't want to be taken for a ride and I believe that has been the discussion and the past 2 years of bad horses purchased and continued kept...where is the entertainment value in that? AM will preach the entertainment but also knows the stable has to perform at some point because once the value angle is played out and stale there is nothing left. Maybe there shows over 800 clients but shares of 20 horses in May/June go unsold for 8-10 months that doesn't bode well. It's been a adult conversation between posters until a guy like you pops in and goes off with the vile language and garbage you spread on the plop site.
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I loved the plug they gave AMac after the 5th at Delaware today. Last line was go to “Mystable.ca”
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It's $26/month + ~$8/month forshipping/incidentals.
or, about $1.12 a day.
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I wished it was that cheap..Your not including the HST fee added per month and that amount varies per horse.
$20 to $100 and maybe more per 1 percent.
It cost me around 100 dollars per month for 1 percent. But still cheap to be in the game!
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I wished it was that cheap..Your not including the HST fee added per month and that amount varies per horse.
$20 to $100 and maybe more per 1 percent.
It cost me around 100 dollars per month for 1 percent. But still cheap to be in the game!
If HST wasn’t 13% you should file a complaint. It doesn’t vary
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It is 13%. But the 13% is based on your 1 percent purchase for each horse. The higher the price you pay the higher the amount due is. But its based on 13%.
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I should mention the HST is the Canadian sales tax, You can apply to have it refunded back to you if you live in the USA.
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I wished it was that cheap..Your not including the HST fee added per month and that amount varies per horse.
$20 to $100 and maybe more per 1 percent.
It cost me around 100 dollars per month for 1 percent. But still cheap to be in the game!
Are you saying some months the bills are $10,000 on one horse, thus$100 for your 1%?
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for gods sake why dont some of you go buy1% of one of the horses he just bought and then you will be on the inside and can figure it all out and report accurately
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They have to be raping the owners. Ads like crazy on the races from Delaware this past week. Sounds like a fun thing for the wanna be owners and quite lucrative to the operators.
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its called marketing /promotions
most successful companies have a budget for it
you know coke, apple , it seems to work
let people know about your product and maybe some will buy it
hmmm
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Watch this idiot in the 9th at the Meadows today
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Exactly I can't believe this guy has any investors. Can't train, can't drive yet he is all about being the big shot. Talk about ego.
The guy could sell sand in the desert , great talker
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His scam is coming to an end. Don't believe it then just watch where the track has video in the paddock like WEG shows. Other drivers and trainers walk the other way because they know he makes them all look like scam artists.
You guys keep saying that but it's business as usual.
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Well cheap Rum here are facts and try and dispute them. WEG runs everything including SC and Ontario Racing and controls just what the AGCO can do. They promoted the hell out of TheStable and as long as AM has investors then in their mind it's good for racing despite how much they investors lose. But they don't promote as much because AM is big on Ohio breds and why is he in OOOHAHAIO because it is a haven for cheats and if he has that many OOOHAHAIO breds it's good for them. It all will blow up, trust me.
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Watch this idiot in the 9th at the Meadows today
kind of looked like driver in front of him throws his head/helmet back and hits the horse ( looks like ) and they were backing it down pretty good there
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This ass has no right to even have the lines in his hands. There has been many a bad driver but this ass has got to be the worst. Again he can't tell a good horse from a bum at the sales, can't train and can't drive.
I think he has won like 3000 races or something like that - how about you?
And who's the greatest ever yearling you personally picked out and won anything with?
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Emerald Miss group a three year old buy for 21k in 18 managed just 10k went into the hoofbid sale in August. The stable wasn't going to give her a away and bought her back for 7300. could have been cut loose for 7200. Raced a few mores times without a check and sells this weekend on ongait for 4900. So minus out a month of training bills the owners got a lesson on a bad horse is exactly that and whatever you believe the value is the market will tell you at a cheaper price. instead of 7200 they net 1000 or less?
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Emerald Miss group a three year old buy for 21k in 18 managed just 10k went into the hoofbid sale in August. The stable wasn't going to give her a away and bought her back for 7300. could have been cut loose for 7200. Raced a few mores times without a check and sells this weekend on ongait for 4900. So minus out a month of training bills the owners got a lesson on a bad horse is exactly that and whatever you believe the value is the market will tell you at a cheaper price. instead of 7200 they net 1000 or less?
true but you claim one for $20k, a month later cant get it going and put it in for $10k - it happens
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true but you claim one for $20k, a month later cant get it going and put it in for $10k - it happens
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Sure thing bud
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how about mcarthys drive in he shes a great lady
cost possibly 2 horses a cheque
could have injured 2-4 horses
could have badly injured any number of drivers
i have seen stock care races with less contact
but you feel to ramble about a possible interference and how outrageous it was
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how about mcarthys drive in he shes a great lady
cost possibly 2 horses a cheque
could have injured 2-4 horses
could have badly injured any number of drivers
i have seen stock care races with less contact
but you feel to ramble about a possible interference and how outrageous it was
1st placed 9th going for $455,000
getting tossed in an overnight at the meadows is more egregious apparently 😂
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Just one purchase on day 1 of the Lexington sale
$45k U.S.
Who’s footing the bill for the next 6 days?
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Just one purchase on day 1 of the Lexington sale
$45k U.S.
Who’s footing the bill for the next 6 days?
Apparently you can't read. She was 32k usd
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Just one purchase on day 1 of the Lexington sale
$45k U.S.
Who’s footing the bill for the next 6 days?
dont understand your concern - its a 5 day sale and their business/client model doesnt call for buying horses like Maverick for $1M - so their target group comes up in the next 4 days (not sure about the 6) -
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Won’t be 45k till he starts selling shares
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Won’t be 45k till he starts selling shares
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Ok only $44,500. I
Can get 32k US from my bank for 41,600. What is other 3k for and don’t tell me tax share prices say plus tax. If he is paying 3k to get one from Lex to Canada I want to be his shipper
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i race into am
hes a nice guy
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Ok only $44,500. I
Can get 32k US from my bank for 41,600. What is other 3k for and don’t tell me tax share prices say plus tax. If he is paying 3k to get one from Lex to Canada I want to be his shipper
The difference in price is his expertise in choosing the horse is now priced in.
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Only $445.16 Canadian per share
Plus $57.87 Canadian GST
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i race into am
hes a nice guy
You ran into his kneecap
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You ran into his kneecap
You just earned a fat joke.
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Ok only $44,500. I
Can get 32k US from my bank for 41,600. What is other 3k for and don’t tell me tax share prices say plus tax. If he is paying 3k to get one from Lex to Canada I want to be his shipper
Is there a scouting or buying fee, the commentary videos fee?
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If you were wearing your mask and AM was wearing his from down there how could you tell it was AM all you could see is his eyes.
I knew him met him few years ago
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Was he wearing mass then
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Well Amish not wearing the mask they must have a exemption? Many had mask most didn't bother wearing. Sale looks like it will be down 25-27% from day 3 a year ago.
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Well Amish not wearing the mask they must have a exemption? Many had mask most didn't bother wearing. Sale looks like it will be down 25-27% from day 3 a year ago.
Amish immune to the virus. They don’t watch mainstream media
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From someone who has lost a few friends to this virus you are a real POS
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Only $445.16 Canadian per share
Plus $57.87 Canadian GST
This is a steal, it's like buying Apple stock at $2.50.
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which 'offshore" region are you referring to
just curious
thanks
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Stable.ca made some very astute purchases....inve rters should expect hefty returns next summer.
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Stable.ca made some very astute purchases....inve rters should expect hefty returns next summer.
Whats an inverter? Is that like a backwards atm
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Crash not sure who you were referring to just reported what I saw. By the way 25 people turned away that have been walking the grounds since Saturday with temps higher then 99.5. Farm I was hanging at had started there contact tracing list. So as I stated there wasn't much for social distancing and mask wearing. See if anything unfolds?
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The purchases this year tells the story of the uncertain future of this scam. Sure he might sell shares to some of the investors he already has but as for new blood forget it. You can drive by TheStable on any given day and any given time and you will see nothing. The only time is when he does one of his everything is great here at TheStable videos.
you have great insider knowledge of this operation - apparently you know directly or indirectly the "offshore" investors, you have direct knowledge of what is going on at the barn and when, and I don't think anyone is spending as much as previous years, not just those associated with this operation - That hard-on you have for the guy and operation continually shine through -
On a side note - why are all the Cantab Halls going so cheap at this sale - I think the stud fee is like $15k alone?
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From someone who has lost a few friends to this virus you are a real POS
Sorry for your loses But quick question how many were in the .3 percent that didn’t already have 2+ Co morbidity? That is from CDC by the way
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Sorry for your loses But quick question how many were in the .3 percent that didn’t already have 2+ Co morbidity? That is from CDC by the way
Bullshit.
The AVERAGE number of co-morbidities is 2.6,
6% of deaths have 0 co-morbidities.
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you have great insider knowledge of this operation - apparently you know directly or indirectly the "offshore" investors, you have direct knowledge of what is going on at the barn and when, and I don't think anyone is spending as much as previous years, not just those associated with this operation - That hard-on you have for the guy and operation continually shine through -
On a side note - why are all the Cantab Halls going so cheap at this sale - I think the stud fee is like $15k alone?
There's always one know it all mother F-er in every group! Why should this place be any different?
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We have an algorithm running to track the winnings of theStable horses, it'll be fun to see at the end of the year.
Id imagine that 93% of Anthonys horses this year did not make enough $ back to cover their vet/training bills/stake payments, let alone the owners making a cent back.
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kole , you will be correct
its easy math, assume $3,500 for monthly training and incidentals for 8 months before they even think of qualifying , so call it $28,000 cdn, staking should be minor for 90% based on their cost ( hence pedigree and confirmation or lack of) but lets ad $2,000 so call it $30,000 not including original purchase
might be 3 or 4 of the two yr olds that make that this year
many already dumped and some very average ones going to be carried over for a 3 yr old season
i have nothing against the stable or amac but just follow the numbers and if watching your horse be average at best is worth that in entertainment than to each their own
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Before you even start adding all those things in mentioned above here is a fractional ownership nightmare that doesn't work in the favor of a small owner. Take example A..a three year with 8 starts and 10k made. Couldn't compete in Ont which needed a license. Then to IL. Then to OH. Then to its state jurisdiction NJ for a stake race and if 1st time owner along with license you need finger prints. 1 stake race and done. Off to PA where you need a 3yr license and that's 120. So that 10k minus 10% your at 9000.00 at 5% your take is 450. Yet to race over those 5 jurisdiction is roughly 350.00. Add in it wasn't free to get to those tracks you have transport cost so your in the hole even with 10k on the card and still haven't added a dime from everything mentioned above. Not a fault of the stable just part of the system rigged against small owners of a fractional outfit.
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Before you even start adding all those things in mentioned above here is a fractional ownership nightmare that doesn't work in the favor of a small owner. Take example A..a three year with 8 starts and 10k made. Couldn't compete in Ont which needed a license. Then to IL. Then to OH. Then to its state jurisdiction NJ for a stake race and if 1st time owner along with license you need finger prints. 1 stake race and done. Off to PA where you need a 3yr license and that's 120. So that 10k minus 10% your at 9000.00 at 5% your take is 450. Yet to race over those 5 jurisdiction is roughly 350.00. Add in it wasn't free to get to those tracks you have transport cost so your in the hole even with 10k on the card and still haven't added a dime from everything mentioned above. Not a fault of the stable just part of the system rigged against small owners of a fractional outfit.
very valid - the licensing is not in favour of any small owner at all - your example is very good. I think a few states dont require a license if under 5% of the horse, yet others want DNA samples plus money.
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Yes your right there are a few and NY is one of the worse for fractional ownership. Also states aren't sharing prints so first year in IN need prints, if you go to NJ yep prints, if five years end up in any other state that same year...yep more prints for a another state. I know it's for the FBI background checks but beyond ridiculous.
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the travel schedule for the horse noted would be fine and expected for a grand circuit horse not for an overnight horse who has made $10 k
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the travel schedule for the horse noted would be fine and expected for a grand circuit horse not for an overnight horse who has made $10 k
TRAVEL EXPENSE MORE THAN VALUE OF HORSE
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Stable.Ca made some very astute purchases, look for a big year from TheStable this year. I'd say get in now while you can.
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some details please
which horses are you specifically referring to
sale was down about 15% so you need to compare to other horses sold at this sale to determine who got the best deals
sorry to say but value is not always cheap
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Stable.Ca made some very astute purchases, look for a big year from TheStable this year. I'd say get in now while you can.
Put your money where you’re mouth is. Post purchases and percentages here. We will see how smart you are next year
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they were the number 1 purchaser at Lexington .... head count of 18
avg cost per about $18,000 at the sale that averaged about $50,000 per horse
so you know what you are getting if you buy in
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It may show they were the number one purchaser but that doesn't mean Tony buying 11 but also bought another 8 as a agent. Burke bought 15 but one of his primary owners Donovan bought 6 that all may end up with Burke. Or Takter purchases but a guy like Jom Glass is a agent for prominent ownere in Canada which use his farm for broodmare to be KY eligible and those yearlings will be Takter trainees. To the other point 18k average and what your buying into I like 1160 posts later sums it up.
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Horses first?
What do you have about the stable that you are so against it?
The stable bought 17/18 horses cheap so what, he looked for value that’s been done before. You seem to just want to bash the concept??????? Who cares he buys horses and people buy shares, that’s the concept so they don’t all make $$$$$$$ so what, entertainment only he tells you that! Once in awhile one makes good e.g. swandre. At least he buys horses, you can’t race them unless you buy them and they don’t know what they cost. Some of the best were bought on the cheap end. He runs a stable that some people enjoy being part of, if they didn’t they wouldn’t buy shares but they do.
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Horses first?
What do you have about the stable that you are so against it?
The stable bought 17/18 horses cheap so what, he looked for value that’s been done before. You seem to just want to bash the concept??????? Who cares he buys horses and people buy shares, that’s the concept so they don’t all make $$$$$$$ so what, entertainment only he tells you that! Once in awhile one makes good e.g. swandre. At least he buys horses, you can’t race them unless you buy them and they don’t know what they cost. Some of the best were bought on the cheap end. He runs a stable that some people enjoy being part of, if they didn’t they wouldn’t buy shares but they do.
That Lyin' Jim guy just hates that people can spend a thousand bucks and have fun in ownership.
He'll tell you he's an expert but doesn't know the difference between Average and Median sales price.
But he's good at counting other people's money. The best, in fact.
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so my point really was that they bought well below the sale average and median
the sale was down about 15% so maybe the time to step up and buy a few decent ones in the $40-$50 range, many well bred ones went in that range but they just bought more cheap ones
sure one or two might work out but clearly the odds are against it
in other words if you buy in have realistic expectations based on what you are buying compared to what they have to race against
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Cigar...once again thanks for following. I don't bash the concept if your buying cheap horses and they stay cheap horses no reason to allow the owners to dump shares for pennies and no reason to string them along when the horse can't provide the entertainment it was bought to provide. It's not like horse racing is cheap and that the stable is cheap at a 66 US dollar a day rate. He always says he treats the clients money like it is his money...really?
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When is everyone going to understand that AM has NO interest in quality, only quantity. The more he has the more he gets to bill and the more he makes, its that simple.
Also, he said that Spent (a Swan For All colt) was worth $40,000 but he bought him for $11,000. Hey AM or any of his lackies, evidently no one else at the sale (of which 98% are smarter than AM) thought he was worth $12,000. He may be proven right next year but given his track record in selecting yearlings I am betting not
No way he would have spent 40k on him. Erv did take a piece of him so someone else thought he was worth 11. lol
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Never said you did. Was stating he really doesn't believe the value he states they have as he never pays close to what he says.
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100 percent believe it is to drive up demand.
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Buying yearlings your going to look at dozens even if your going to buy 1 or 2. If your buying 20 you may look at 100. Your going to put that list together once you watch video, for me having pedigree analysis sent off, then the trainer inspection. After the inspection you value everything from where the horse was placed in sale, where the horse was raised, and a mirror of other things. # of foals, age of mare, and so on. You will have your favorites which will be many others favorites and those will sell higher then your best high guess. If you truly think the horse doesn't have many flaws and pages look good odds on that horse is going home with someone else. If you like some individuals and they toe in or toe out you will place a discount. There are a lot of factors and yes whether AM puts a too high or too low of a price well eye of the beholder. However AM...these are his words for years he knows very little about pedigree and for sure very little on crosses. He does have some clients that make up for that however. He is more about the page, the black type, and as many know buying yearlings based off full brothers and full sisters is a recipe for disaster. Same with buying new sires that is a tough one if it's not the premier new studs. Would rather do the homework and find the right blood on a 1st foal and tract the bottom maternal side all the way to the foundation mare. There was a trotter I loved at the Jug sale traced back to Midnight who had thoroughbred parents and they traced back to 1790. Will follow, a good trainer bought the horse so will be interested on how the horse turns out. Not in love with the sire but that may not matter. Price was higher then the value I had. So that's why we put values on and whether AM is too high or too low it's in his observation probably more on the individual itself?
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What was your price you set on your Lexington purchase? Was it your number 1 choice or the only one that fell below your number.
This is where I really question am numbers. He gets way too many under his number and let's top picks go for a few bids more.
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What was your price you set on your Lexington purchase? Was it your number 1 choice or the only one that fell below your number.
This is where I really question am numbers. He gets way too many under his number and let's top picks go for a few bids more.
buying yearlings simply because they fall into your budget is the biggest disaster purchase you can make. as stated above, you need to have a good size list with a top group. stick to that top group, and buy from it.
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WW, I've been scaling out for a couple years. Had a couple broodmares die last year and sold off a couple others. I wasn't shopping at Lexington, did like a UP colt that went for 42k, and that was a shade higher then I thought. I would have past on him. While 815 I would have priced much higher on and went for 15k. Never did look at the horse itself based on pedigree so not sure what happened there and as Coryd03 mentions a possible disaster if I thought I was getting 50% value. I do like a filly trotter first foal at Hanover but going to pass. Have one home bred yearling that will get trained down and see how it goes. Trying to get the twelve years of racing blood out of my system lol.
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Good luck with the homebred and hopefully won't be racing against me. Sorry for your loss of the mares.
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Thanks. You the same.
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Horses first
Pedigree pages don’t tell you how fast they are only how fast their mom and dad and siblings are!
Confirmation tells you have a less likely chance of problems training down.
Here’s a clue never buy babies thinking they are stake material unless you are gonna spend big money to get the above two things, and those go for big $$$$$$.
Plenty of cheaper ones with toes pointing out and less expensive make more $$$$ as racehorses.
If you are buying babies it’s a numbers game buy more tickets and hope a few of the tickets have the winning numbers it’s the biggest gamble in racing.
There are plenty of horses that make good $$$$$ that were bought under 10k
over the years, they are just not stake material at 2 and 3. They are however good raceway horses that make a profit.
You can argue with me all you want but your wrong!!!!!!!!!
Big stables buy the best bred best looking babies in quantities because they don’t even know which ones are the golden ticket.
So people buy cheaper ones and get that golden ticket also, it’s called luck!!!!
If you want to play the baby game with the big boys you have to:
1. Spend and buy in quantities
2. Hope your luck is good and they get trained down the right way
Remember that horse foiled again? Well he made the most $$$$ and raced the longest, and I believe he wasn’t a stake horse at 2 or 3.
There are plenty of those out there.
So save your $$$$$ on the toilet paper you buy for pedigree
Give me a toed out knee knocker that has heart for 2500 instead I can put spreaders and knee boots on him!
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When is everyone going to understand that AM has NO interest in quality, only quantity. The more he has the more he gets to bill and the more he makes, its that simple.
Also, he said that Spent (a Swan For All colt) was worth $40,000 but he bought him for $11,000. Hey AM or any of his lackies, evidently no one else at the sale (of which 98% are smarter than AM) thought he was worth $12,000. He may be proven right next year but given his track record in selecting yearlings I am betting not
Globetrotting - $21,000
Yes - $16,000
Oh So Pine - $13,000
Lawmaker - $20,000
My Jazz - $6500
White Tiger - $20,000
some of you complain it cost too much but some of you complain they don’t spend enough on yearlings, so which is it?
you economic experts are still sitting on your couches with your hand on your horn and he has another shedrow full of yearlings 😂
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Swandre, being a north of the border homer of the stable you continue to make the case that AM for some reason can't pick out horses. You pick 6 horses, one a two yr old My Jazz, a 3 yr old Globetrotting, and 4 others that are 4 and 5. So 2019 Stable had 60 plus yearlings, 2018 I think it was over 70 could have been 72ish, and before that not sure. So lets assume 175 yearlings over the last 3 buying cycles and yes the freshmen class will have a chance at 3 if stake worthy to advance in earnings. You just gave a 3% example giving your money to AM to go sale to sale look at hundreds of horses. To come back with a large number saying that buying value or his approach, to say give me your money, and charge you 66 US or 88 CDN a day at a minimum. That at 3% shot at best you can own one of those 6 type of horses? Which all those shares probably weren't available any way because the stable itself owns shares of Globetrotting, Lawmaker, and White Tiger. I think AM may fire you as his spokesman because your making the case way this thread exist. Poor horse buying while keeping 3 and 4 yr old horses that can't cover the basic coverage and while a large number are still nw 1, 2, or 3 racing at tracks that offer small purses. His client numbers have stalled in this 800 area for over 2 years and one has to wonder with all those horses that didn't sell last year that how many are really active? So yes another shedrow of broken dreams and high bills for newbie clients that question more and more why the horses don't perform.
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Cigar as usual so wrong!!! Pedigree pages are a form of history and a good way to start the process of elimination...esp ecially for those who buy smaller samples of horses and not your theory of buying more and hope a few tickets hit. Why is that? Well number one sometimes the tickets you sign at a yearling sale like 10k, 15k or 20k will be the cheapest check you write over the longer haul. Not everyone can buy babies in bulk you idiot and to say buy 10 and hope 2 workout because that at best is the ratio. Your monthly bills will set you back ever before that lottery ticket may come in.
Pedigree page is a history guide to crosses and blood matching if you have a service. The approach of breeding the best to the best is a junk process that was old school. I have looked at many yearlings that had no affinity from mare to sire and those have always been a auto toss. If you can't get it right in the breeding shed it's not going to transfer to the track. Then you have your crosses and over time golden crosses. Reasons why decades ago many looked for Lindy Lane, Donerrail, American Winner to name a few on the broodmare side. These days Muscle Yankee, Conway Hall, Yankee Glide, and Angus Hall as broodmare sires. Muscle Hill now having enough mares out there will draw the same. One can use this as a base that gives the buyer on this aspect a better % at making it on the track. You come across sire and dams that don't cross well for whatever reason and the list can be long but the sample size is big enough to be a failure, its a why bother and a risk. Again a auto toss. Nobody is arguing the fact that cheaper horses can't make money? I have always put a price on trotters 25k or less can net you good results with making it in the states sire programs which offer enough money.
To your point people who have the most money... those are the ones looking to buy the next sire that gives them buying potential for years to come. That is the game they play and that's why there are 4 or more partners to a horse these days because they can afford to buy and spread into more horses. Your wrong again, as they do there work and analysis as they go to the farms 4 and 5 months before the sales a few times to look at the yearlings. You think the Takter group goes to a sale and doesn't do the work? Tony A visits farms many times a year before a sale. You couldn't be so wrong on that statement. Yes they are also buying on what they believe is a good individual, very few flaws, and a racy looking horse. That at times trumps pedigree or may play the more important role of $$$.
Heart...one of the few things you can't measure in a horse at the yearling sales. Buying those toed out or in at a sale one would make the determination if it's bad enough that they won't hit. Does the video show but that video is in a field in a casual trot. You don't know on those horse types when the horse ends up hitting if that horse has heart to fight through issues in a race. Your a claiming guy with older raceway horses at that by point the horse has battled through with equipment and a possible temperament that makes it different in a 8 yr old vs a 2 yr old just getting to the track trying to trot under 2 minutes. Those with the flaws may not make it at 2 or 3 and that is why you find horses like Foiled Again or other horses like him. They had to have reasons why they didn't make it as a younger horse?
As far as your toilet paper comment I will let that fly from a guy who trains a couple low lever claimers vs what I was able to buy at some success with also saying many more failures but that is the name of the game with babies. Do the homework one can do ok and much better then the 3% strike rate that the stable has over the last few years. Good day Gene.
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lots of good view points and comments
clearly it depends who you are as to what you buy
if you are a owner/trainer and making a living from this game than you buy inexpensive yearlings and hope to get lucky and get a real god one but mostly raceway overnight horses, also many of those good raceway horses come from the investors who bought the high priced yearlings and if they are just decent they get sold after their 3 yr old season
if you are an owner/investor you are buying much stronger pedigree for grand circuit horses and maybe a future stallion and certainly future broodmares
it is very evident come breeders crown time , you know who the owners and trainers will be for most of the horses
at the lexington recently some of the trot races there was not a horse that sold for under $100 k in them
there is something for everyone,
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or u can buy 3 or 4 babies and get extremely lucky
at times
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Horses first
I bet I can name 5 cheap horses that made more $$$$$ than your 2yo this year! How did that work out for you?
As far as stable goes It’s entertainment not an investment you still keep playing the investment card it’s not! And you buy trotters so the chances are even smaller of getting a grand circuit one. And you don’t need a service to subscribe to figure out muscle hill is it. If you want to play the baby game don’t cry when you don’t hit! And don’t knock the stable because it don’t work for you. I’m not a fan of the stable anyways because it’s not my thing, but he is swinging for the fences so give him the ata boy. If you got a better way then start your own! Monday morning quarterbacks are no good. I think I’m gonna buy a share in one for the hell of it now.
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Swandre, being a north of the border homer of the stable you continue to make the case that AM for some reason can't pick out horses. You pick 6 horses, one a two yr old My Jazz, a 3 yr old Globetrotting, and 4 others that are 4 and 5. So 2019 Stable had 60 plus yearlings, 2018 I think it was over 70 could have been 72ish, and before that not sure. So lets assume 175 yearlings over the last 3 buying cycles and yes the freshmen class will have a chance at 3 if stake worthy to advance in earnings. You just gave a 3% example giving your money to AM to go sale to sale look at hundreds of horses. To come back with a large number saying that buying value or his approach, to say give me your money, and charge you 66 US or 88 CDN a day at a minimum. That at 3% shot at best you can own one of those 6 type of horses? Which all those shares probably weren't available any way because the stable itself owns shares of Globetrotting, Lawmaker, and White Tiger. I think AM may fire you as his spokesman because your making the case way this thread exist. Poor horse buying while keeping 3 and 4 yr old horses that can't cover the basic coverage and while a large number are still nw 1, 2, or 3 racing at tracks that offer small purses. His client numbers have stalled in this 800 area for over 2 years and one has to wonder with all those horses that didn't sell last year that how many are really active? So yes another shedrow of broken dreams and high bills for newbie clients that question more and more why the horses don't perform.
are you dense?
I didn’t say he could pick one out better than anyone.
I was merely using an example that you don’t need to over spend to have a contender. I could have listed more cheap yearlings that won stakes.
do you know how difficult it is to win a stake race? let’s use Ohio for example.
there’s probably 1000 foals hit the ground every year, do you know how many stake finals slots there are for that crop of 1000 horses? less than 40. do you know how many of that 1000 earn a cheque in said super final? 20. yet they have horses running in the super finals every year.
look at all the owners who won at Lexington last Sunday. those same owners spent twice the amount of money they made this year on yearlings the previous Monday on day 1 of the Lexington sale. being a ‘successful’ (getting your picture taken) owner in the yearling game isn’t about who can make the most money. It’s who can afford to lose the most. real simple economics. it seems to me The Stable tapped into a market of people who want to own pieces of $20,000 babies and go for the ride
I own pieces of 5, I’m not making any money, I haven’t really lost any either. but I watch my yearlings train down all winter and then race the next summer. that’s all I’m in it for. you seem to have a very hard time accepting that.
you seem like the type who would tell Apple a better way to sell iPhones. You need to get over yourself.
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BABY GAME IS HARD
LOSE YOUR MONEY ,,,ITS ALWAYS ABOUT HOW MUCH U CAN LOSE NOT HOW MUH U CAN WIN RACING BABIES.... MAYBE TAKE A PIC OR TWO
GETTING IN SUPERFINALS AND RACING ON SUPERNIGHT IS NOT EASY..
ODDS ARE SO HIGH AGAINST
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Cigar yes it's the entertainment angle but that's the pitch, the line, and whatever to GET away from the investment line because you wouldn't be able to sell that. Even on a fractional basis it hasn't taken off. I'm sure with Ron Burkes name he could sell the entertainment angle as well and have a 1,000 horses....if he wanted. He sells investment which churns out sire stake champions, GC participants, breeders crown wins, and most important stud syndication. Takter group as well on a much smaller basis. Ron still races and buys raceway horses that can churn money over expenses. Other top trainers like to turn over 3 yr old horses for capital into new purchases. The stable doesn't because he can't get these cheap animals other then a few % to have any value. How many have they sold this year a dozen maybe 15 and for the most part between 5-8k.
As far as my only sole 100% horse yes raced 4 or 5 times couldn't get his liver numbers down and turned him out. He was a homebred so feel free to name 5 cheap horses doesn't matter don't care I know the game. It is what it is.
Do you honestly think AM thinks this is entertainment if he had a no disclosure conversation? That he can go years after years with such shitty results while charging 66 a day? Give me a break people aren't that stupid and there aren't that many suckers? Gene you know the cost to keep, feed, jog a horse per day. Do you think the stable minimum charge of 66 is acceptable? Also if it adds in the twice a month videos of training down that when July comes the horses are racing or then turned out. Your paying 6 months of drone cost. Or your horse goes to a trainer in PA to race and he charges 40-45 a day but yet your still paying the 66 a day stable charge...does this make sense? Go ahead buy some shares, I still have some as well. Just reporting the things that stick out and screws the owner. Like I have stated before liking the drone sessions to have the transparency of the horse that's were the stable stands apart. Also that not even sized half mile track with harsh winters has seen a lot more injuries this year. Is it the weather, the track, or the horses he has picked out? Not to mention all his horses seem to get allergies? Been in the business 12 years had a number of trainers and never got a excuse that the horse has allergies?
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Yes Swandre well aware but the reason he buys cheap is so he can have more volume to create more bills. Why race stakes and do what he did more so this year and race in the fairs. Doing that because he said the horses can't compete in the overnight. The great Royhill training down all year as that 10k spot to race in Ohio 100k race. In May with 30% still opened he begged for more people to take shares because AM didn't want to cover the cost of the stake payment. Well everyone saw the debacle that unfolded after May 15. That turns off people that have been in this business and have seen this enough from other trainers. This was no different. So why give the false premise on many of young horses up to qualifiers saying they are stake worthy when its 100% false? A handful start and stay there and the rest are excusues. It clarifies months later when that two year old still floundering in a nw1, a fair, or turned out. Preach entertainment but please what is so entertaining? Someone to pay a bill and say I watched my horse again finish up the track? Then told we are keeping will be a much better 3 yr old. Well that didn't happen for 95% of the horse he kexcuses. It all looks and smells like a used car salesman to sell or just some sort of scheme for someone that can't make it as a driver, didn't get elected for office, and had to come up with some platform. I suppose it won't be much a issue if the guy did it smaller with intent to buy good horses and sell shares with the ability to race in the state sires or lower stakes with keeping 35-50 head...then having 135-150 head that is more a petting zoo for his owners.
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Horses first
I hope you luck, do well with yours.
I’m just busting your balls because you have the Swoodall syndrome and I just don’t like that, that’s all.
And yes cheap horses are my favorite because that’s what I like, the throw aways. Your throw away could be someone’s golden ticket. Like I said if your buying babies your gambling. The whole game is a gamble!
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Cigar I don't mind the ball busting and stayed the baby route because buying the raceway can be the unknown. My take has always been the same I look at this business in a negative light racing because of the drugs, the scammers, the do nothing commissions, and so forth. I stayed in it for the positive the horse mainly but the friendships over time. I wagered on thoroughbreds for nearly 20 years before owning horses. I think the whole cost structure is flawed and the whole vet thing is a scam. Every penny I took out of the business with a number of good horses I put back into the industry while adding a lot more into losses. By my own making but had a good day job. As far as wanting to bring in more clients into the game fine. I would rather see a much larger scale and make the industry more trust worthy and build on less drugs needed, no lasix for 2 yr old horses, and level playing field where horses race clean 48 hours before race day.
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amac will run the current game plan until it fizzles out , after that he will re emerge with a new platform of buying 15-20 medium to higher priced yearlings to keep some owners or attract new ones once all the newbies have been bled dry
when you buy below average pedigree with some conformation flaws, train them on a shitty track in the dead of winter with average trainers you get what you get , they hope they get lucky and a couple overachieve and carry the flag which is always possible
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Brown Jug completely agree.
Swandre back to the six horses you used as examples for value? They are also about the only six over that 4 year period that either did ok or really good at 2 came back solid at 3 and did some damage as a raceway horse at 4 that wasn't a bottom condition or near the bottom of nw. So it's not just hard to win stake races it may be even harder to stay with the better raceway horses. The last five years I've raced in OHio I've seen the Chris Beaver trotters do really well and he buys a lot of sub 20k trotters. I will always side that once the horse leaves the sale grounds they have no idea what they sold for. That once they all start day 1 they may be all the same. That over time you know which ones will separate from the pack and by Mar/April get that could special of a horse. When it's time to get those trotters under 2:15 you will find out which are just a horse for the time being.
To your point earlier if things were even yes maybe 250 foals per a divison. Of that say 70% make it to the track so the 175 possible you will get 20% entered into that first sire stake. The rest will try the Buckeye, the balance to the fairs. Then it all shakes out from there. This business is all about low percentages and as Cigar pointed out earlier LUCK. The stable just needs to have more luck maybe picking horses to come home with???
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Horses first,
I don’t think eliminating Lasix and some drugs is the answer! I think the answer is to make it uniformed for everyone and keep it the same state to state. As far as scammers go that’s any business. It’s hard to compete with big stables these days they get the best drivers and horses usually, and if you beat them they just claim/buy the ones that do beat them. So some people fold the tent and get out and some stay and take their shots neither one is wrong or right. You either like the game or you don’t everything else is just an obstacle you have to overcome.
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Cigar no reason a two year needs to be on lasix. Horse starts to bleed time to turn out. As far as the terminology scammers in all business is a cope out. The industry can be changed enforcing very strict and costly rules. Why be a follower and enabler when you can be a Game Changer? Don't think the will is there to want that change...at least on the harness side. Thoroughbreds maybe. International thoroughbred racing has put the hammer down over the years.
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Gotta disagree with you, nobody should tell an owner that they need to turn anything out if there is a medication available to help the problem. The reality is your an owner with limited knowledge of the back end side of the racing and that’s ok not your fault. If you want to buy babies and turn them out if they bleed that’s your right, but not everyone thinks the way you do so a choice needs to be given especially when there is a medication to assist with it.
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I DISAGREE ON LASIX THING JIMMY
for 2 yr olds
if it can help
im for it..
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I am for lasix in any horse that needs it and wish they would drop the lasix position from the integrity bill. We need the rest of the bill.
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Rest can't help?? Growing immature hard to keep weight on a two year that has been on the track for 9 or 10 months you give them lasix that dehydrates the horse and drops 20-25lbs of weight. To me its greed to keep the horse going yes if it helps? Lowest dose maybe but many bleed through it and need higher doses. To me the horse needs rest...but I guess I'm on a Island especially when 2 yr old may race once every 11 or 12 days...skip a week to ten days and see what happens?
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They don’t loose weight on Lasix!
You can keep them hydrated during the week that it won’t effect them being on Lasix, where the fuck do you get your info from? I have never had a horse loose weight by being on Lasix. Or let’s turn them out for 6 months and then put them on Lasix as a 3yo right?
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Facts are blenders get inflammation and scar tissue in the lungs. Many side effects are dehydration and weight loss due to loss of appetite. There is enough information on EIPH and Cigar if you don't think that feel free to call Dr. Benson at the RMTC or any doc's at Woodland Run. AGAIN TALKING ONLY 2 YEAR OLDS. Let them develop without all the medication and heal on their own. As far as the horse ISN'T it the owners investment and bills that go and pay for the horse and if he so choose's for rest why should the trainer argue? If it's a stake horse then I suppose some serious talks should be had. If it's a average horse with upside turning the horse out is the wrong option? Again must be on my own island wanting better for the equine athlete and money isn't everything. Now Cigar to your point in a earlier thread GREED is in all businesses!
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Horses first: Your name and point is valid but we all know people will race horses that shouldn't be. I want the horses that continue to be raced even though they are bleeding, to have the help of lasix.
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Horses first,
All horses should have able to get treatments and medication available to help them at any age and at any time! We do it for humans and there is no reason not to do it for animals.
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Cigar I'll meet you more then half way and say I'm wrong on the lasix. While I'm only concerned with the 2 yr old yes your right no weight loss especially on with older horses. I still prefer if I had a young horse that was a bleeder not just a little but a lot I prefer the turnout especially if it was just a run of the mill horse. If a horse was better and bled a little yes I suppose there is nothing wrong with giving the horse lasix.
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Who’s training now that McGinnis has covid?
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Burps' MacDonald said he loves to eat (as long as he isn't footing the bill), as can be seen in everyone of his videos burping 30 times like a pig.
He doesn't want to buy expensive/good looking horses, he can buy 5 rats for the price of a decent one, he gets the same monthly bill/vet fees/big meals off the rat as the good horse- but he gets it x5 because his 5 rats equal the price of an ok individual.
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they are not cheap horses they are UNDERVALUED, nobody else sees the value so they are bought cheap
and they will be potential champions , at least until the qualify
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they are not cheap horses they are UNDERVALUED, nobody else sees the value so they are bought cheap
and they will be potential champions , at least until the qualify
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Sadly they will be staked like champions too
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Burps' tries to get them going 100MPH for his open houses, to sell the shares that aren't sold out & to get the owners a little moist before the disappointments start...
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Burps' tries to get them going 100MPH for his open houses, to sell the shares that aren't sold out & to get the owners a little moist before the disappointments start...
Easy game playing on someone else's dime and never have to make good on it
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One of the stable trainers tested positive for corona are they all quarantined now
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watched the meadows to kill time before the football game kc and the bills wow got parked on both favorites way would tim twaddie use his ass. 11.dt
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How do they met him in when he's been exposed to Corona
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race 7,8,12
on the fav or second choice
parked them all and got a couple of 5ths I think
there was no holes for him today
perhaps the boys were not happy about him stopping by after the Cleveland covid experience
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Hard to get parked from the three hole but found himself in that situation twice on both his stable horses. He could have settled into a hole but being on the favorite I suppose how long do you stay there were the wagering public doesn't roast you? AM hates the mud, hate to say that was the excuse for the two drives, guess one has to wait for the video list of excuses? If your a Spirit of DEO owner and the talk of the only stable horse to be entertained for the Breeders Crown they are wondering that 5k entry come with a different driver?
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Well just read in today's HRU that washed up golfer Long John Daly has joined TheStable. Now AM has a real drinking buddy or is it just like the rest of his investors he found another sucker.
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so there were not cheaters then but there are now or you didnt have to race against the cheaters because you were racing at Orangeville and Belleville? just asking
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I did all right and got out in the mid eighties and glad I didn't have to race against all the cheaters.
Daley used doctored golf balls back then.
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I raced at Greenwood, Mohawk, Barrie, Western, Orangeville, Elmira, Windsor wherever they fit conditions. I never said there were not any cheaters but I figured why knock my head against the wall, I did alright so when the time was right I entered them in claiming and they got claimed and one I sold. I have my farm and I don't want for anything and life is pretty good and no regrets.
LUC STILL WANTS TO FLY IN tmbz1
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I raced at Greenwood, Mohawk, Barrie, Western, Orangeville, Elmira, Windsor wherever they fit conditions. I never said there were not any cheaters but I figured why knock my head against the wall, I did alright so when the time was right I entered them in claiming and they got claimed and one I sold. I have my farm and I don't want for anything and life is pretty good and no regrets.
Iceman......so you never used any supplements or anything at all?
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Vitamin supplements, good feed and plenty of water. Had their teeth floated regularly and shoe changes. I did use an equine therapist on a regular basis and that was it. The horses got time off for paddock time and overall looked great and were happy but then again they were mine no owners.
So using supplements isn’t performance enhancement?
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So let me get this right, you used SUPPLEMENTS but didn’t enhance performance? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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How the fuck does vitamin B enhance performance.
You tell me oh great one tmbz1
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I know drivers flew in but not sure of general public and Mohawk is allowing certain amount of fans. If it's possible why not, cases are rising in the Toronto and surrounding area and have been since last week and the government is changing the rules and restrictions daily.
AM is exempt
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It doesn't look it up.
[/B Vitamin Supplementation. As key nutrients regulating energy release, B vitamins can impact a horse's energy levels and performance.
Key word performance iceman
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It doesn't look it up.
[/B Vitamin Supplementation. As key nutrients regulating energy release, B vitamins can impact a horse's energy levels and performance.
Key word performance iceman
IS REDGLOW A CLASS 3?
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The point I’m making to you iceman is that, anything aside from hay and oats is a enhancement period. These animals are not machines and need supplements sometimes to correct problems which is not naturally done. We can go around and around and spin the words anyway we want on this. The reality is if a horse has something wrong with it we try and correct it!
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The point I’m making to you iceman is that, anything aside from hay and oats is a enhancement period. These animals are not machines and need supplements sometimes to correct problems which is not naturally done. We can go around and around and spin the words anyway we want on this. The reality is if a horse has something wrong with it we try and correct it!
Perhaps difference being, you don't get a positive for a "supplement" vs what's in the rule book?
Your points are still valid.... tmbz1
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2 guys buying horses for the stable today at hoosier classic sale
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Cigar fair enough I always first and foremost made sure every horse in the barn was fit and happy and if I saw a problem I didn't screw around and called the vet in for his opinion. I would go over the top so they had the best feed, hoof care, and dental. I made sure their harness was always in tip top shape. Basically because they were mine I never took a short cut or scrimped on anything.
.....and yet couldn't even compete on the B circuit.
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Iceman I respect the fact that you raced back in the 80’s that’s pretty cool. But it’s a different game now horses themselves are bigger and faster and the races go much faster. You can’t compare the 70’s and 80’s to today’s racing.
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Iceman I respect the fact that you raced back in the 80’s that’s pretty cool. But it’s a different game now horses themselves are bigger and faster and the races go much faster. You can’t compare the 70’s and 80’s to today’s racing.
When someone says "..I got out of the game" , that means they couldn't compete and went tits up.
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When someone says "..I got out of the game" , that means they couldn't compete and went tits up.
1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old
If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.
Lance, can you sort this out for us?
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Who cares how old or when he trained, or if he ever did. Not like anyone else on here lies or tells stories. ngc3 ngc3
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you guys need your own thread
would be interested to see the subject topic .LOL!!
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Who cares how old or when he trained, or if he ever did. Not like anyone else on here lies or tells stories. ngc3 ngc3
The stable Boys love when the topic gets sidetracked takes the spotlight off and the suckered swim up to nibble on the bait
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Plenty on here know me and they know. It's always the same ones who stir up false shit. Cigar I agree today's horses are bigger and faster and the equipment is far from the 70's and 80's but the horses now, well let's just say is drug enhanced. I wouldn't use anything and the Robinson's and others I had to go against were all into it so that was the main reason for me getting out. My conscience is clean.
Dear Professor Fuck Puddle,
Thanks for the keen insight.
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Who cares how old or when he trained, or if he ever did. Not like anyone else on here lies or tells stories. ngc3 ngc3
ICEMAN IS LEGIT tmbz1
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1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old
If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.
Lance, can you sort this out for us?
1. Calvin said daughter a junior
2. 2 months later Calvin daughter graduate
3. Next year Calvin daughter nurse supervisor making 6 figures ngc3
1a. Calvin son make 6 figures at Lehman
1b. Lehman been closed for 10 years
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1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old
If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.
Lance, can you sort this out for us?
Calhoun, I'm on the case. Currently searching all homeless shelters and soup kitchens.
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1. Calvin said daughter a junior
2. 2 months later Calvin daughter graduate
3. Next year Calvin daughter nurse supervisor making 6 figures ngc3
1a. Calvin son make 6 figures at Lehman
1b. Lehman been closed for 10 years
hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1
its a dee lemma ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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1. Calvin said daughter a junior
2. 2 months later Calvin daughter graduate
3. Next year Calvin daughter nurse supervisor making 6 figures ngc3
1a. Calvin son make 6 figures at Lehman
1b. Lehman been closed for 10 years
hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1
Lehman was liquidated and purchased by Barclays oh wise one, maybe you ain’t all that either?
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ICEMAN IS LEGIT tmbz1
Bullshit.
Name just 1 horse of his.
I never lie. Never.
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1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old
If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.
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Another wiping of the floor with IceFag's ass.
Canada's #1 faggot.
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Bullshit.
Name just 1 horse of his.
I never lie. Never.
He had them before they kept records. You DID say he was over 100.....
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Lehman was liquidated and purchased by Barclays oh wise one, maybe you ain’t all that either?
Your name is Jean please don’t speak to me until u have more wins than u do letters in your first name
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He had them before they kept records. You DID say he was over 100.....
Check your PMs.
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Racing in Ontario last week, the meadows yesterday, is this really essential travel? Are the meadows drivers really that awful that they can't drive so the man can stay home with his family?
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Racing in Ontario last week, the meadows yesterday, is this really essential travel? Are the meadows drivers really that awful that they can't drive so the man can stay home with his family?
Off year, yes.
But it's great to see him working hard to the end of the year.
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The classic is that AM is driving at Hoosier on Friday (1 horse) which means either none of the drivers there for the Breeders Crown are good enough or no one wants to drive one of his horses. Guess this is just another example of AM padding his bills for the owners
JUST WANTS TO BE LISTED ASA DRIVER ON BREEDES CROWN NIGHT
HE CAN SAY HE DROVE A HORSE ON BREEDERS CRWN NIGHT TO HIS PIGEONS
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The classic is that AM is driving at Hoosier on Friday (1 horse) which means either none of the drivers there for the Breeders Crown are good enough or no one wants to drive one of his horses. Guess this is just another example of AM padding his bills for the owners
His ego obviously clouds his judgment
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all good thoughts
none are even close
but keep guessing
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all good thoughts
none are even close
but keep guessing
Other important business.
100% fact.
Trust me on this.
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Since it seems like we have 2 people that know exactly why he is doing this so why not tell us rather than play games, but then again it is much easier to sound like you really know something when in fact you probably know nothing If I am wrong then you will post the answer
If you look at program, he gets along very well with Spirit of Deo. Others not so much.
Almost anyone can drive Globetrotting. Open a program and look people, it's not hard
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can you please explain how AM got from The Meadows to Hoosier yesterday?? I know he could not drive that far and get to Hoosier to race in time.
Did you ever get a good response on this important question?
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there was an answer posted but I do not remember the excuse
If you can't even remember , why should others bother to use their valuable time to teach you?
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If you can't even remember , why should others bother to use their valuable time to teach you?
hes made money with anthony
hes worth the trouble tmbz1
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That question was asked 2 months ago which has nothing to do with the current topic which you may want to read....scroll up a few posts...always glad to help
You're saying you've been wasting my time for 2 months.
I decided I'm not going to tell you what you want to know.
Don't be offended.
In a day or two, you won't remember any of this.
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ditto what captain morgan said
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That guy can't find his own ass with both hands and flashlight.
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If he wants to keep this scam going he has to quit putting himself down to drive, sooner or later the brain dead investors are going to wake up and say what the fuck.
I TRULY DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS TO DRIVE WHEN THERE IS QUALITY DRIVERS AROUND
EGO MAYBE?
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Why enter this filly in the race with another driver when she is more than likely to run. He gets along with her, he wins with her. He gave the owners the option to list someone else and guess what, they chose him. If you have no stake in the horse then why all the concern about other people's $
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Why enter this filly in the race with another driver when she is more than likely to run. He gets along with her, he wins with her. He gave the owners the option to list someone else and guess what, they chose him. If you have no stake in the horse then why all the concern about other people's $
I DONT GIVE A FCK EITHER WAY
BUT IT WOOD BE HOOVE ANYONE TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE DRIVER
THATS ANYONE ELSE WOOD BREAK THE HORSE IS MORONIC..
P[LS STOP MAKES U LIKE DUMBER THAN U REALLY ARE
BEST DRIVER GIVES YOU
BEST POSSIBLE CHANCE TO WIN THE RACE
THAT BEING SIAD
U GOTTA BE A FCKIN PIGEON TO FALL INTO THE PYRAMID SCHEME HES RUNNING ngc3 ngc3
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Obviously you're half retarded. Go look at the program on this filly. If you don't understand then idk what to tell you. Why don't you cut your know it all bullshit out and look at the facts
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Obviously you're half retarded. Go look at the program on this filly. If you don't understand then idk what to tell you. Why don't you cut your know it all bullshit out and look at tye facts
LETS GO SLOW
HE WANTED TO SEE HIS NAME ON THE PRGRAM LISTED AS THE DRIVER ON BREEDERS CROWN NIGHT
THATS IT
..NAME CALLING JUST MAKES YOU LOOK DUMEBR THAN YOU REALLY ARE
ARE U AN INVESTOR IN THE
PLAY FOR PIGEONS PYRAMID SCHEME ngc3 ngc3
IM AXING FOR A CHRISTIAN FRIEND
THKS JusT REPSOND ARE YOU AN INVESTOR /
yes or no
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Yeah there isn't much a choice and if so with this mare she doesn't take well to other trainer and drivers. The owners probably wanted him to make the drive and drive the horse. Doesn't matter he will be in Maryland days later waiting to collect another 5.40 a share per horse for his travel and stay. Also the work to video a clip of a potential horse. His 18 buys at Lexington netted 9,700cdn for a week stay in Lexington. Notice the stable has opted to sell 4 or 5 horses on ongait as a list price instead of auction since they don't garner bids and sell low. This season worse then last numbers don't lie. More fair wins then stake wins was a first for the stable in 2020.
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wow, lucpark, wheres the love
long ago in this thread you were a fan
wha happen?
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please confirm
he has another horse there that night called globetrotting but some one else driving ??
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Trace has drove Globetrotting before and got along with the horse. AM was on the fence going so he didn't want to lose Trace to another horse. Plus, I believe this isn't the last race for the horse at Hoosier and with Erv as trainer. Trace drives for Erv so that sums it up.
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wow, lucpark, wheres the love
long ago in this thread you were a fan
wha happen?
JUST KEEPIN THIS MOVIN
I GET PAID FOR HITS
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Yeah there isn't much a choice and if so with this mare she doesn't take well to other trainer and drivers. The owners probably wanted him to make the drive and drive the horse. Doesn't matter he will be in Maryland days later waiting to collect another 5.40 a share per horse for his travel and stay. Also the work to video a clip of a potential horse. His 18 buys at Lexington netted 9,700cdn for a week stay in Lexington. Notice the stable has opted to sell 4 or 5 horses on ongait as a list price instead of auction since they don't garner bids and sell low. This season worse then last numbers don't lie. More fair wins then stake wins was a first for the stable in 2020.
9700 for the week? For what exactly, his expertise on picking out those yearlings that every other single person at the sale is asleep while they are on the block?
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2.90 a share for travel and stay. Which I think he stayed with his brother Mark already there driving. 2.50 a share for looking at horses and taking a minute plus video. The hook is say we are looking at buying 8 or 9 horses mark in the cost based on that and then go out and buy 18.
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I’ll be at Hoosier all weekend please PM what u want me to say to that clown AM
I’m gonna harass him during post parade
Charm never lies never
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The wife loves that he's always away ngc3
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I DONT GIVE A FCK EITHER WAY
BUT IT WOOD BE HOOVE ANYONE TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE DRIVER
THATS ANYONE ELSE WOOD BREAK THE HORSE IS MORONIC..
P[LS STOP MAKES U LIKE DUMBER THAN U REALLY ARE
BEST DRIVER GIVES YOU
BEST POSSIBLE CHANCE TO WIN THE RACE
THAT BEING SIAD
U GOTTA BE A FCKIN PIGEON TO FALL INTO THE PYRAMID SCHEME HES RUNNING ngc3 ngc3
Spirit of Deo
08/15/19 - James McDonald - X
08/22/19 - Anthony MacDonald - 2
09/16/19 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
04/17/20 - J Butenschoen - X
04/27/20 - David Miller - X
06/08/20 - J Butenschoen - X
06/23/20 - Anthony McDonald - 1
06/30/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
07/17/20 - James MacDonald - X
08/01/20 - Louis Roy - 7
08/15/20 - Louis Roy - 8
08/25/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
09/01/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
09/08/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
09/21-20 - James MacDonald - 6
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08/01....10 hole
08/15....8 hole
09/21...8 hole
10/19...AM driving...3 hole, betting favorite and I guess its much better to run into everyone and get placed 10th
As always, its nice to leave out the complete story. AM may drive at Hoosier tomorrow night but it is really worth the risk for the owners to spend $800+ to find out???
did you ever consider perhaps he owns a piece of her as well?
it’s pretty clear he gets along with the horse
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WRONG again...at least you are consistent. Check his latest video where AM says that he owns 0% of Spirit of Deo. One thing about you, you never let facts get in the way of the story you like to tell
I didn’t say he did, I said perhaps he did.
I guess he doesn’t
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Swandre yes leaves out the move to the Meadows facing inferior competition which is fine to put some nice races together that yes should be noted at 1-2 or 2-5 prices. Not more then two weeks ago was being touted as the stable o ly BC hopeful. A ugly race in the mud saved owners a 5k entry fee. I will add from my early post why AM making the trip that Hoosier is a tricky track first time over and it's good they sent her a couple weeks ago. If she had a caught driver I would say a 60/40 chance of a break in the mile. Getting the rail she will save some ground when her running style doubt she is leaving and you know how caught drivers go...just a race and off to the next.
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What is the infatuation with what he does and with other peoples $. I never take it upon myself to look at others financial picture
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08/01....10 hole
08/15....8 hole
09/21...8 hole
10/19...AM driving...3 hole, betting favorite and I guess its much better to run into everyone and get placed 10th
As always, its nice to leave out the complete story. AM may drive at Hoosier tomorrow night but it is really worth the risk for the owners to spend $800+ to find out???
Do you think he cares, hes on the ride of his life and has 800 suckers paying his fare
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Going to a break through year coming up. Very astute yearling purchases..big, big money to be made with the Stable next year, get in know while you can
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You are right it is OTHER PEOPLES money...not AM's that he is blowing. Not sure what your values are but I have no respect for anyone that has larceny in their heart from the beginning knowing full well that almost everyone will lose money, that AM is lining his pockets and then pretend to wrap the scheme around entertainment value. Flushing money, month after month down the toilet does not seem too entertaining to me but I guess I grew up in a different generation....... .Thank God!!
Yes people lose money all the time in harness racing but at least everyone should expect a fair shot, something lacking in AM's business model.
That’s your opinion. your opinion isn’t a a fact, Jack.
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What is the infatuation with what he does and with other peoples $. I never take it upon myself to look at others financial picture
That guy and Lyin' Jim ONLY care about counting other peoples' money.
Jealous or busted.
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ngc3 ngc3 Poon loves to lie. Nobody is counting others money they are rightly pointing out how bad the stable does with horses mostly picked out by AM. Yes, there are suckers born everyday and more power to them wanting to get a taste of horse racing and being at the track. However thestable.ca track record not so good the last two years. Lots of excuses no more so then horses with allergies. Yes, most lose money or the big game owners shop and spend for the next stallion. On average all losers. I've been there many of my 11 years as owner. The poon is just mad he is a bust out and called out for not racing under some stable in MI.
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ngc3 ngc3 Poon loves to lie. Nobody is counting others money they are rightly pointing out how bad the stable does with horses mostly picked out by AM. Yes, there are suckers born everyday and more power to them wanting to get a taste of horse racing and being at the track. However thestable.ca track record not so good the last two years. Lots of excuses no more so then horses with allergies. Yes, most lose money or the big game owners shop and spend for the next stallion. On average all losers. I've been there many of my 11 years as owner. The poon is just mad he is a bust out and called out for not racing under some stable in MI.
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Hi Lyin' Jim Buttfuck,
Thanks for your response.
Once you learn the difference between median and average, get back with us.
You really hate my little share of a filly won a handful of races this year.
Don't you, Jelly Jim?
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Please tell me what I said is opinion....this should be good. By the way my name is not Jack
Jealous Jim B. has that expense drilled down to the nickel.
He'll be along.
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Poor little poon derailing a thread as usual stay on topic. Nobody cares about your half of a share won at a strip poker game with your Male friends.
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Please tell me what I said is opinion....this should be good. By the way my name is not Jack
‘Something lacking in the business model’
well, for you maybe. which is fine. maybe not for others.
you’re a ‘my opinion is the correct one’ kind of guy. you were an only child or you weren’t told ‘no’ as a child I can tell.
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lets cut to the facts
96 percent or better make no money and fact lose money at the STABLE
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and clients being misled ,,if you're pigeon material you in the club if not
you run away from A MAC with all the speed your legs can go
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So you think everyone is getting a fair shot with AM. You like all his lackies never can answer if he was more interested in trying to make money for the owners, rather than lining his pockets why would he not buy 20 yearlings for $50K each rather than 50 yearlings at $20K each and don't give me that value crap line he preaches. If you believe that then every horseman at Lexington, except for AM, was stupid as he tries to get people to believe that his purchases were bargains compared to their value (his inflated number)
This is the dumbest fucking thing you've posted.
Jim, please help us all and help out here.
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So you think everyone is getting a fair shot with AM. You like all his lackies never can answer if he was more interested in trying to make money for the owners, rather than lining his pockets why would he not buy 20 yearlings for $50K each rather than 50 yearlings at $20K each and don't give me that value crap line he preaches. If you believe that then every horseman at Lexington, except for AM, was stupid as he tries to get people to believe that his purchases were bargains compared to their value (his inflated number)
why doesn’t McDonald’s sell better beef and charge more for their burgers?
do you know anything about supply and demand economics?
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Crickets
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GOOD DRIVE ALMOST BROKE AROUND FIRST TURN HE STEADIED THE TROTTER BEAT A DECENT FIELD
I BET THE HORSE FOR 150 CUS HORSE WAS IN AGANIST TOMATOE CANS
EASY WINNER
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Crickets
of course, now had he broke the horse, the entire posse would be out
ironically, they all bet him too apparently
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hip 91
amac
111k
so fck u haters
good job amac tmbz1
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hip 91
amac
111k
so fck u haters
good job amac tmbz1
Where are the haters?
They all said it was over, especially Lyin Jim.
It's not over until we say it's over.
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hip 91
amac
111k
so fck u haters
good job amac tmbz1
Blue Chip buy back?
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Blue Chip buy back?
HE BOUGHT 2 SO FAR 1 FOR 39 K I BELIEVE AND THIS ONE I JUST MENTIONED
GUESS HES GOT A MAJOR INVESTOR LOOKS LIKE .,.
NO MORE CHEAP SHIT
GOOD FOR AMAC
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What's over? More delusional nonsense from the forum idiots. Good he paid 115k to buy a horse hopefully it doesn't end up in the fairs like the 60k purchase last year. Where it can't compete I. A Northfield nw1. Not rocket science. When the 115k horse is broke by this weekend the price means nothing just another horse. Hopefully it doesn't end up broken down like the 15 non starting yearlings that were turned out early. That frozen short half mile track during the brutal Canadian winter does a number on those young horses. Yay whoopie the stable bought a expensive horse...is that all you have untruthful poon?
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I AGREE JIMMY HE SHOULD FINALLY GO TRAIN DOWN HORSES SOMEWHERE IN FLORIDA
JUST ADD MORE EXPENSE TO HIS OWNER S
WHATS THE DIFFERNCE AT LEAST BABIES TRAININ IN BETTER WHEATHER
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I AGREE JIMMY HE SHOULD FINALLY GO TRAIN DOWN HORSES SOMEWHERE IN FLORIDA
JUST ADD MORE EXPENSE TO HIS OWNER S
WHATS THE DIFFERNCE AT LEAST BABIES TRAININ IN BETTER WHEATHER
PINEHURST OR HAWKINSVILLE BETTER THAN THAT ICE RINK
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He has a young family isn't going anywhere. Fact is he is a trotting guy and these trotters are on the half for 10-11 months. Takes a toll just look at the 25% that went down early by June.
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What's over? More delusional nonsense from the forum idiots. Good he paid 115k to buy a horse hopefully it doesn't end up in the fairs like the 60k purchase last year. Where it can't compete I. A Northfield nw1. Not rocket science. When the 115k horse is broke by this weekend the price means nothing just another horse. Hopefully it doesn't end up broken down like the 15 non starting yearlings that were turned out early. That frozen short half mile track during the brutal Canadian winter does a number on those young horses. Yay whoopie the stable bought a expensive horse...is that all you have untruthful poon?
not the first guy who bought a pricey yearling who couldnt do. Mind you this one made $20k or so which is a little better than Maverick did -
BUT no matter what, its going to be no good to a lot on here.
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Wow thanks for the breaking news that expensive or moderate expensive horses don't pan out. That the two best sires by the numbers Cantab Hall gets 24% over 100k earners and MH 20%. The balance goes a lot lower especially with sires that are a few crops in that are lucky to be 10-12%. On the pacing side there is a lot more money to race for and a sire like Bettors Delight gets 35% of his offspring to earn over 100k. SBSW as well. However those numbers go down across the board with after those two.
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well then, he has quite a few Cantabs this year - so I guess he is ahead already ngc3 ngc3
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Heaven forbid if these two get allergies ngc3
Lmao ngc3
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What's over? More delusional nonsense from the forum idiots. Good he paid 115k to buy a horse hopefully it doesn't end up in the fairs like the 60k purchase last year. Where it can't compete I. A Northfield nw1. Not rocket science. When the 115k horse is broke by this weekend the price means nothing just another horse. Hopefully it doesn't end up broken down like the 15 non starting yearlings that were turned out early. That frozen short half mile track during the brutal Canadian winter does a number on those young horses. Yay whoopie the stable bought a expensive horse...is that all you have untruthful poon?
Never trust that the horse was actually purchased, Blue Chip likes to inflate their prices and AM likes to inflate his own pocketbook, unsuspecting, clueless shareholders won't know the difference.
Have to give the guy credit he will be mortgage free and retired with a big nest egg before the bottom falls out, he takes care of number one
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He has a young family isn't going anywhere. Fact is he is a trotting guy and these trotters are on the half for 10-11 months. Takes a toll just look at the 25% that went down early by June.
Heard he bought the farm he's stabled at, wont be moving
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THE GUY SPEND BIG MONEY
,,HE GETS CREDIT
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THE GUY SPEND BIG MONEY
,,HE GETS CREDIT
JUST LIKE CAR BUYERS tmbz1
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who knows what the details of the purchase are
however there are 87 shares on the site for $1700 each so they are all for sale currently
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Hey just curious. Anyone interested in putting a similar microscope over a trainer who pays big money for yearlings? Such as a Takter..? I think the dollars would be off but not so sure the percentages (starters; money versus purchase price) would be.
It would be an interesting stats project.
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great idea how much money does alagna stables burn every year
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the difference being when alagna or takter hit they hit BIG and you have grand circuit champions , potential stallions and possible foundation broodmares
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IN MY OPINION I THINK MORE TRAINERS SHOULD ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP RACING PARTNERSHIPS IN RACEHORSES AND YEARLINGS AS WELL AS STALLIONS. I PERSONALLY BELEIVE IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO RAISE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS VERY QUICKLY.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, ONCE THESE FUNDS ARE RAISED TO DO VRYTHING THE RIGHT WAY FROM THE PURCHASE TO RACING ---STANDING STALLIONS, ETC. DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED. THE MONEY IS OUT THERE. MORE THAN EVER IN MY LIFETIME.
WITH THE PROFITS FROM THE STOCK MARKET PEOPLE WILL BUY SEVERAL HORSES AND IT IS NOTHING FOR AN INVESTOR TO SPEND $100,000 IN THE STOCK MARKET DAILEY-----WHY NOT HORSES IF TREATED FAIRLY? THE TAX BENEFITS ARE SECOND TO NONE. EVEN WITH A LOSS ---THE INVESTOR WINS ---PLEASE REVIEW THE SECTION 179 TAX CODE. IT FITS RACING PERFECTLY---PAY TAXES OR GET REFUNDS DUE TO THE WRITEOFFS!!!
THEREFORE, I THINK VERY SOON SOME OTHER TRAINERS AND/OR OWNERS WILL PUT TOGETHER NEW PARTNERSHIPS FOR RACING.
THE DAY YOU WRITE THE CHECK---YOU WIN!
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Brown Jug and I agree with this the Takter, Burke, and Alagna spend to buy hoping to get that stallion. You get the racing earnings then millions for syndication. That gives you a five or six year window to get the next one. Doesn't make it any easier and sure not all the partners get involved or lucky to be on the right one. That's why these horses have 4 or 5 owners each. Spread and get on 10 instead of buying a few at 100%.
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Yep, I don't disagree with that statement.
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Blue Chip buy back?
It has to be a buyback. He has like 87 shares left. He doesn't buy expensive horses as a flyer or value buys.
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It has to be a buyback. He has like 87 shares left. He doesn't buy expensive horses as a flyer or value buys.
Blue Chip retains 10 shares, no bills, he tries to sell off the other shares with the added miscellaneous expenses, they get a higher price , he get to train an expensive colt
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yup
definitely a pre arranged deal if the price was not high enough for blue chip
guess all the other bidders were getting a beer or taking a piss and this one got "stolen" at $115k
in the beginning the stable had a lot of blue chip horses and not one was any good
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hes bought about 10 horses so far at harrisburg
good for anthony
,, tmbz1
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Racing partnerships are the demise of the industry. No returns for people. Only helps big commercial stables. at least 3 year investment proposition. Keep money in the markets or get a claimer. have a better chance.
5,000.
Literally 5,0000 people own a piece of this year's Kentucky Derby winner at a cost equivalent to a small car payment
How can this possibly be bad?
Can you give us 50 words on this?
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My email inbox shows 6 bought but the day is early and I'm surprised he wasn't out bidding the Beachy Brothers stables yesterday on those 2,000 and 3,000 dollar horses. At 66 US a day that's great mark up.
Is it 5,000 or 5,0000? Yes, owning 1,000th of 1 share the unlimited possibilities are mind boggling. Well your 50 words on that is read the statement. Demise of industry/no returns/ only helps big breeders. So to translate yes the horse won the Kentucky Derby but his valuation was like 15mln if I remember. So no return. Selling shares into the 1,000th who does it help=the big commercial breeder.
The horse will have some breeding value with the Derby win but nothing like his sire. To your point yes 5,000 or 5,0000 can say I own a less then sliver of a Derby winner...nothing wrong with that. But understand the question posed.
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this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this
I'd expect a cowardly response like this from Lyin' Cryin' Jim.
From you, I'm a tad disappointed.
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Poon butt hurt because he couldn't understand a question? ngc3
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RECALL LPG STANDARDBRED OR STANDARDBRED TROTTERS AND PACERS OR ALMAHURST LP1, 2,3,4,5. THESE WERE ALL VERY SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS ON WALL STREET. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT NO ONE EVER RECEIVED A RETURN BUT THEY ALL HAD LOTS OF FUN AND MANY OWNERS WERE DEVELOPED THAT STARTED IN THESE PARTNERSHIPS.
THERE WERE MANY WORLD CHAMPIONS DEVELOPED IN THESE PARTNERSHIPS! ALL THREE ENTITIES WERE SOLD BY BROKERAGE HOUSES TO THEIR CLIENTS ---MANY UNITS AVAILABLE AND SOLD AS A TAX SHELTER.
WE PACKAGED PLANES, TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES AND YES, HORSES!! WAS A FUN TIME IN THE 1970'S!
NAMES LIKE LOU GUIDA---JOHN SIGNORELLI---MORTON FINDER---P.J. BAUGH TO NAME A FEW !
BROKERS WERE PAID 6-10% OF SALE TO PUT THEIR CLIENTS INTO THES DEALS. THE MANAGERS WERE PAID APPROXIMATELY 20% --COST, ETC. APPROXIMATELY 40% OF FUNDS RAISED WENT INTO HORSE FLESH.
NO DIFFERENT FROM POLARIS AIRCRAFT ,LLP AND OTHER ENTITIES!!! THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS HORSES WERE THE VEHICLE INSTAND OF THE PLANES , TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILE!
COULD THIS BE DONE TODAY----ABSOLUTELY!
THE TX BENEFITS OF HORSES ARE TREMENDOUS AND THEREFORE THESE PARTNERSHIPS WORK. NOT SURE OF THE YOUNG MAN IN CANADA AND HOW HE RUNS HIS OPERATIONS . I ONLY STATE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE OLD DAYS NOT THE CURRENT PARTNERSHIP THAT THIS YOUNG MAN IS PUTTING TOGETHER. IT DOES NOT SEEM HE IS PTTING TOGETHER THE TAX ADVANTAGED PRODUCT HERE IN THE U.S. WHICH WOULD BE VERY LUCRATIVE. WOULD BE A WAY TO BUILD A RACING STABLE VERY QUICKLY.
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http://ustrottingnews.com/thestable-ca-winter-open-house-goes-virtual/
THIS IS SO KOOL
tmbz1
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she's tricky to drive
ngc3
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I’m a Philly flyers fan
And Boston bruins
Hate the leafs
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Clients are dumb as they come and as he feast on there skin. He claimed to sell horse A by Harrisburg sale. Goes on ongait and apparently he says no one is calling. Not going to Amish the horse that is way past 100k in debt to investors. His theory that 12 others want to do this and to do that but his claims prior are at his and only his voice the horse sells. Horse A since that time frame has been 6 weeks still not sold Harrisburg ended a week and a half ago horse has raced once and can't earn a check. At 66 a day even if he Amished the horse 6 weeks ago owners have well past that amount they would have gotten. I'm sure he is bullshitting and if he auction the horse buyers would pay 5 or 6k. Another two more weeks and that again takes owners to zero because of cost. So some are losing and one or two are making out. The more the guy speaks the more he comes off as a thief.
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Clients are dumb as they come and as he feast on there skin. He claimed to sell horse A by Harrisburg sale. Goes on ongait and apparently he says no one is calling. Not going to Amish the horse that is way past 100k in debt to investors. His theory that 12 others want to do this and to do that but his claims prior are at his and only his voice the horse sells. Horse A since that time frame has been 6 weeks still not sold Harrisburg ended a week and a half ago horse has raced once and can't earn a check. At 66 a day even if he Amished the horse 6 weeks ago owners have well past that amount they would have gotten. I'm sure he is bullshitting and if he auction the horse buyers would pay 5 or 6k. Another two more weeks and that again takes owners to zero because of cost. So some are losing and one or two are making out. The more the guy speaks the more he comes off as a thief.
Heard there hasn't been a client receive a cheque yet so why start now
For entertainment purposes only, lube up and bend over
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Heard there hasn't been a client receive a cheque yet so why start now
For entertainment purposes only, lube up and bend over
I got mine
you heard wrong
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i have had a number of horses with the stable, i supported it because i thought the industry really needs something like this. And i can offer the following facts
1) i received ALL monies owed to me .
2) When i had a significant % of a horse and wanted to move it, Anthony either agreed to sell or bought my shares, for an acceptable amount
3) his driving skills are VERY limited
4) he has a VERY optimistic view on all horses, is happy with a horse that races even below a grass roots level
5) The combination of his over training babies and the terrible track is a major drawback
6) HE is the best communicator in the industry, answers calls, text, etc
7) Some really dumb decisions are made, some ( much less likely) good ones are as well --- See what Argento was sold for and how he did after!
8) the fun of watching the drone videos is a valuable tool
9) he needs to stop eating while he does his videos
10 ) buyer beware don't use the stable if you want anything more than the ' experience' feeding carrots, attending races
Facts
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you are one of the most unreliable members of the forum....you only poke your head out when you are defending AM and then you never answer questions or use facts. What horse or horses do you own with AM?
Nah, I just point out when false claims are made
if that makes you upset, that’s on you, not me.
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So trotcanada are you out now?
No- i think he has a great program in OHIO , buy cheap, good Entertainment for the winter.
its a hobby like going to the movies, his videos are hilarious
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once again your refusal to answer a question
Who I own is irrelevant to the point in this instance. I’ve also previously mentioned here who I own 😄
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No- i think he has a great program in OHIO , buy cheap, good Entertainment for the winter.
its a hobby like going to the movies, his videos are hilarious
Yeah. I'm thinking of getting my Dad a couple of shares in a horse. I'm not stupid, the chances of making $$ are very slim. But the bills seem very cheap compared to owning a cheap claimer in the maritimes. Dad can't do it himself anymore, but I think he would love checking the entries, watching the livestreams and the videos. It's not about the $$.
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as long as you go in eyes wide open and know what you a re getting into than go for it and enjoy
some people drink,smoke,gamble, movies etc, if folks want to spend the disposable cash on this go for it
just don't expect to get a real good horse that makes money
although i guess you can all watch with interest as that trotter he paid $115 k for trains down to race
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as long as you go in eyes wide open and know what you a re getting into than go for it and enjoy
some people drink,smoke,gamble, movies etc, if folks want to spend the disposable cash on this go for it
just don't expect to get a real good horse that makes money
although i guess you can all watch with interest as that trotter he paid $115 k for trains down to race
How does that one look, has it trained or droned yet
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For AM Its all about the $$$$$ (for him only)
Can’t you tell me one business owner that is not trying to make money ??
Not sure about the rest of you but money is the main reason I go to work each day!!!!
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im sure they will still be training their horses Ice. Okay maybe no "stable visit" but that would be applicable to everyone, not just their clients.
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Golf. How does he have millions of dollars never taking a salary
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Golf. How does he have millions of dollars never taking a salary
plays street dice tmbz1
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Not a big fan of AMac , but he started this 3 years ago don’t think he can afford to do it for free at this point . Owners using any kind of horses for an investment are in for a rough go at any level. For my guys horses are what they spend their expendable income on instead of buying a boat. Don’t get me wrong I am completely honest with my clients and have had a few fool me in the spring , some ended up much better than I thought some much worse. I also believe when they don’t turn out as expected you should stop the bleeding as soon as possible
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Not a big fan of AMac , but he started this 3 years ago don’t think he can afford to do it for free at this point . Owners using any kind of horses for an investment are in for a rough go at any level. For my guys horses are what they spend their expendable income on instead of buying a boat. Don’t get me wrong I am completely honest with my clients and have had a few fool me in the spring , some ended up much better than I thought some much worse. I also believe when they don’t turn out as expected you should stop the bleeding as soon as possible
You mean you don't milk the cow until its completely dry, the stable horses sre ruined beyond before they are finally sold, only a fool would buy one
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A-Mac up to drive for 100k on Tuesday at Dover. Jimmy King must have faith in him using him over Tetrick ngc3
waiting for your critique of that drive ?
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waiting for your critique of that drive ?
I honestly didn't think he should have been driving the horse going for that much money but he did everything right.
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Yes the horses card will show the 50% of that purse and not the minus the money that Anthony paid the other drives to lay back so he could win it going away.
- the guy wins - probably more in that one race than you in your lifetime in this business since you havent done SFA per your own admission for going on 30 plus years, and you post this crap - you say you have no animosity - so plain and simple - you are simply an old knob. go ahead, reply and tell us how you ran the roost until Bill Robinson ran you out -
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iceman please you are embarrassing yourself
i am sure some small town drivers are going to lay down in a $100k race
also i don't think when they deposit the funds it states who you beat
regardless its a nice cash, weak program for sure but sometimes being the tallest midget pays off
give him his due tonight
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I honestly didn't think he should have been driving the horse going for that much money but he did everything right.
Good things happen to good people
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Based on videos this year looks like newbie clients have asked lots of questions whether they seem relevant or not to AM he tends to shun them off being the captain of the ship. However for years or at least the last three they have grow some balls calling out his driving skills and wanting the horses that turn 3 off that marginal short half mile track. Some horses went to FL over the winter which in the long run didn't help maybe because the horses are marginal as well. Congrats they get a sire stake final win this year in the states. They only had 1 other horse out of the 60 something he picked in NA to have that chance. Better for the clients because AM used some of his shares of JJ parting with them to get some shares off the board with yearling purchases. So at least some owners benefitted with this win.
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I knownhe gets numbers but he's always on a top horse but as far as talent he's well below Dunn... Miller...McCarthy to name a few...this fucking clown has no game plan going into races except make the front at all costs...I dont know why some connections use him...he killed Tattoos chances before they even got to the 1/4 and hes did it 500+ times this year with the same move...I know some will shrug at McCarthy but this guy wins more races with big odds than anyone
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What's this I hear that they let a horse with strangles in to the barn.
the horse was on a trailer with another horse who has since tested positive
both horses tested negative prior to shipping.
also : not a stable.Ca horse but came to the same farm
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Every horse his wife always went with all year, turned out to be big fat ZERO's
He gets paid big money to have these horses trained down- just for his hodgePodge of cheap help do the work for him.
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Why would he let outside horses on his farm, doesn't he have 100 of his own, why take a chance
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There are 300 stalls at that training centre and I don't believe he owns that facility he just stables and trains there.
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There are 300 stalls at that training centre and I don't believe he owns that facility he just stables and trains there.
Was obviously misinformed, that he owned it
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Imagine paying these crazy high training bills, only to have "Amy", "Johnny", "Cole" & a host of others who have little to no experience- be the ones to train your yearling down.
I know in big barns- the head trainer doesn't go with each one all the time but for the love of god- get some quality help.
His wife fcks every yearling she ever goes with.
"This is Amys favorite, she gets along really good with this one" = the horse ends up not racing 2 y.o season.
Amy says: "Its not fair I have a trotter going a set with pacers"= Amy you are not driving a go-kart, try to tone it down. They aren't your horses- try to train them down appropriately or GTFO the horse.
"Johnny really likes this one" = His brother is the guy who lost his phone & let Casies texts come out about "DaShit", the guy has a head like a drive in movie screen & is now listed on Casies horses.
Casie whined & packed up early & changed her tune re: BettingLine.
They skimp on everything for the horses & the vet is giving them kickbacks on all the medication and work (I know this for fact).
THEY AREN"T CHEAP on BUYING everything brand name for the kids/themselves, cars/trailers/house/trucks. When their stable is BLEEDING money each and every year.
Soon the bottom will fall out of this, look @ their 100K Canadian Mrs.Merangue (he obv feels she isn't much stock at all, given her racing and how he talked about her in person, wait for the flop on "3pointBlueChip"
(it was bought on a deal with Mr.Grossman- not even close to being paid for yet, 3points bills are going to be skyhigh this year too, he needs to send that to a real trainer ASAP)
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valid points
and to add that track is no bargain either
take poorly conformed horses and put them on a shitty track and hope for the best
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Imagine paying these crazy high training bills, only to have "Amy", "Johnny", "Cole" & a host of others who have little to no experience- be the ones to train your yearling down.
I know in big barns- the head trainer doesn't go with each one all the time but for the love of god- get some quality help.
His wife fcks every yearling she ever goes with.
"This is Amys favorite, she gets along really good with this one" = the horse ends up not racing 2 y.o season.
Amy says: "Its not fair I have a trotter going a set with pacers"= Amy you are not driving a go-kart, try to tone it down. They aren't your horses- try to train them down appropriately or GTFO the horse.
"Johnny really likes this one" = His brother is the guy who lost his phone & let Casies texts come out about "DaShit", the guy has a head like a drive in movie screen & is now listed on Casies horses.
Casie whined & packed up early & changed her tune re: BettingLine.
They skimp on everything for the horses & the vet is giving them kickbacks on all the medication and work (I know this for fact).
THEY AREN"T CHEAP on BUYING everything brand name for the kids/themselves, cars/trailers/house/trucks. When their stable is BLEEDING money each and every year.
Soon the bottom will fall out of this, look @ their 100K Canadian Mrs.Merangue (he obv feels she isn't much stock at all, given her racing and how he talked about her in person, wait for the flop on "3pointBlueChip"
(it was bought on a deal with Mr.Grossman- not even close to being paid for yet, 3points bills are going to be skyhigh this year too, he needs to send that to a real trainer ASAP)
Takes a real scumbag to judge people on what they spend money on in their personal lives
their vehicles are both at least 4 years old
trailer is old
try worrying about yourself this holiday season ✌️
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Iceman there last two seasons training down babies has been detrimental to babies being lost even before the stages of asking for speed or getting under that 2:20. They fall behind with harsh weather the past couple years then try jamming speed into them late in the stage on a short half mile track. That's a lot of pounding on young horses knees and it shows down the road. I want to say 40% of those yearlings were laid up and some ended coming back later in the season.
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I should state to be fair those clay tracks in FL aren't the best for babies and suspensory injuries.
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Takes a real scumbag to judge people on what they spend money on in their personal lives
their vehicles are both at least 4 years old
trailer is old
try worrying about yourself this holiday season ✌️
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There's not a lot of integrity on the part of AM haters Kole, Golf and Lyin' Jim B. on this thread.
They just cannot stand the fact that ANYBODY can own a piece of a horse enjoy the experience and lose 99% less than they do.
Lyin' Jim especially will attack you, try to count your money for the bazillionth time and tell you that you have "no skin in the game" which has an expected ROI of minus 100 percent.
Then when the used horse sale comes up, they deride other owners while talking to each other in code and keeping their staggering losses a secret.
Ok... now, let's hear from my faithful pigeons now... horses (Lyin' Jim) first ... you can go first.
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I'm just surprised you can spell integrity and use it in a sentence! Nobody lies more on this site then you yourself poon. I can really care less about your dribble. You never once answered the real horses you may have owned without some fractional ownership or a stable in MI you clearly were not part of...just lies and more lies. Prove me wrong and just name horses you have owned...pretty simple? I'm not afraid to list the 50 or more yearlings I have purchased over 12 years. Man UP! No more lying poon.
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Takes a real scumbag to judge people on what they spend money on in their personal lives
their vehicles are both at least 4 years old
trailer is old
try worrying about yourself this holiday season ✌️
Takes a bigger scumbag to judge what other people post on horseplop in their free time as it pertains to their personal lives
Worry about yourself and not what others post on this site
AM is a train wreck yes his wife and family sucks yes but if morons keep giving this guy money sucks to be them the house will fall eventually though
When that happens u can stop blowing him and posting on this worthless forum
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Takes a bigger scumbag to judge what other people post on horseplop in their free time as it pertains to their personal lives
Worry about yourself and not what others post on this site
AM is a train wreck yes his wife and family sucks yes but if morons keep giving this guy money sucks to be them the house will fall eventually though
When that happens u can stop blowing him and posting on this worthless forum
nah, I’m not a scumbag for calling out trolls posting on the internet about what kind of clothes people are buying for their kids. That shit is downright creepy. when you’re an adult and you’re looking at pictures of kids and what clothes they’re wearing and judging it’s time to seek profession help for your obsession. that’s some stalker shit.
stalking someone’s kids because you don’t like the way they do things is alarming. pretty low even for cowards like you guys.
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yes folks lets stick to comments on horses and not personal judgements on people's family etc
a little class please
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Class on horseplop.....
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http://ustrottingnews.com/date-change-for-thestable-ca-virtual-winter-open-house/
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big time hockey players now with the stable
good job
a mac tmbz1
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http://ustrottingnews.com/date-change-for-thestable-ca-virtual-winter-open-house/
I'm just guessing here but i doubt the 3 of them invested a dollar....AMac gave them free shares as a promotion for his scam.....get more suckers to invest using former players
Also......I bet Anthony's lifestyle has improved significantly in the past 5 years....because he was starving before that trying to make a living as a terrible driver/trainer on a competitive circuit.........I give him all the credit for finding a get rich plan...It worked!!
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I should state to be fair those clay tracks in FL aren't the best for babies and suspensory injuries.
So you are saying a rough, frozen, stonedust track where corks are usually a necessity are better for a baby than a well groomed clay track ??? I have trained on them all from Upstate NY to NC to Ga to south Fl. If I can’t afford to send a horse to at Least N C I will stop buying yearlings.
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I'm just guessing here but i doubt the 3 of them invested a dollar....AMac gave them free shares as a promotion for his scam.....get more suckers to invest using former players
Also......I bet Anthony's lifestyle has improved significantly in the past 5 years....because he was starving before that trying to make a living as a terrible driver/trainer on a competitive circuit.........I give him all the credit for finding a get rich plan...It worked!!
Most definitely making himself a very comfortable living in a time where others struggle, if he's smart he should be able to retire anytime and live out his years debt and stress free
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Parked, that was part two of a comment made on a lot of injuries that were suffered at the training centre the stable trains over. After I thought about it just wanted to be fair the clay tracks with two year old training down suffer suspensory injuries. That just comes from vets and owners over the years with horses that go down. Vets say the track with the crushed sea shells much better a surface to train down on. Clay tracks are fine for horses that are three and older as they foundation and those areas maybe developed? Just going off their feedback. As far as the stable breakdowns going off the stable videos from AM.
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Parked, that was part two of a comment made on a lot of injuries that were suffered at the training centre the stable trains over. After I thought about it just wanted to be fair the clay tracks with two year old training down suffer suspensory injuries. That just comes from vets and owners over the years with horses that go down. Vets say the track with the crushed sea shells much better a surface to train down on. Clay tracks are fine for horses that are three and older as they foundation and those areas maybe developed? Just going off their feedback. As far as the stable breakdowns going off the stable videos from AM.
How fast were they going today
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No idea a lot of breakers and many trotters already with trotting hopples on. Only watched 5 or 6 sets.
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who cares how fast they were going
who cares how fast anyones are going right now
ask that question at the end of april or later when it matters
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A little over $10.
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Golfhbm last year in a toward the end of stake season in Nov they had a video that Kelly put together with stats and once the total and more important how low per start earnings...AM goes there you go people will latch on that low total. So my guess you will not find the stable.ca putting out numbers not favorable to the huge losses despite this is for entertainment value.
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More fake list and please you actually have someone to text you....another fake story. Poon spending that 95 bucks in big years way. Home alone drinking his loneliness away.
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And by the way...
IceFag, Lyin Jim Butfker/horse firts and old.golf.guy ... you been at this for 8 months and 99 pages... and y'all still asking the same dumbass shit and never get no closer.
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I'm just guessing here but i doubt the 3 of them invested a dollar....AMac gave them free shares as a promotion for his scam.....get more suckers to invest using former players
Also......I bet Anthony's lifestyle has improved significantly in the past 5 years....because he was starving before that trying to make a living as a terrible driver/trainer on a competitive circuit.........I give him all the credit for finding a get rich plan...It worked!!
Thats why you have a bunch of jealous people posting here. Otherwise, who gives a fuck.
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Poon can't resist his fake ignore list lol ngc3. Comes out crying like the little 59 year old baby he is. A no nothing 1/2 here or 1000th of 1 share there. Some big shot in a MI stable that wasn't his nor any ties to. Lying poon boy the biggest liar on plop and just have to call him out as he lies about everyone one else. Make just your buddy texts you the whole message since I'm on ignore ngc3 ngc3
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And by the way...
IceFag, Lyin Jim Butfker/horse firts and old.golf.guy ... you been at this for 8 months and 99 pages... and y'all still asking the same dumbass shit and never get no closer.
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Yes a thank you on the 15mln valuation with KD and BC earnings nowhere close to getting a check. Maybe down the road with the breeding fees some money will trickle in. But hey one can say they owned 1,000th of 1 share of a Derby winner...how awesome is that! ngc3
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Doesn't matter anyone could have bought into that for just over 200 dollars. Maybe 240 don't remember the exact amount. My point POON has claimed many times to own horses and says it on the board its BS. He is all lie and fluff but that's what you get from someone from the surrounding hometown around Detroit.
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You cry worse than 3 fat girls at an Adele concert.
shes terrible
over hyped fat girl
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Dude she's lost like a hundred pounds .. Fact ... I don't listen to her but she ain't fat no mo
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Poon bitch just confirms his iggy list is BS. No crying here just out to prove a point by the poon lying game.
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You guys mock and you joke but he has found the goose that laid the golden egg he preys one the naive and will find freedom forty five on just the gift of the gab and talk his way into a very comfortable early retirement
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See the stable is putting another group together because he has 13 horses yet unsold and doesn't want a repeat of 2020 holding shares through staking season. So he throws in his shares of White Tiger at a price that he couldn't get if he sold him. So why not pilfer from his clients. The guy steals over 7k from the Lexington sale pumping up the prices for his stay(which ended up with his brother already there), travel, food, and looking at horses while shooting a minute video. The guy claims buying 8 or 9 figures in a dollar amount and buys 17 or more and not adjusting the prior sale amount. Thief! The clown in Mar and April through summer interviews claiming with covid and sports not playing it's time for harness racing and a new wave of fans and bettors. All talk he went on about his racing and bad drives with just political talk to butter up to the industry.
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those figures are true
if you do the math he did steal from clients at lexington and likely timonium
and yes throwing in his white tiger shares tells you all you need to know about that horse
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Last year well summer of 19 he had a group that didn't want horses going to Bates. His first choice was Culliper but he said he had a full barn and Scott said no. Both of those recommended by Harris. A trio of juicers. Yes ended up doing well as we don't test at Yonkers for Miller. I'm still taken back the fool thinks the stable had a great year😂😂😂. Smoke and mirrors like regulations in China.
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ah ha
yes golf, now you are starting to get it ( your point # 2)
and lets see how yes does at meadows, so far not so great but only 1 start
and there was no need to claim that horse, just a bad move but the minions followed and will now get burned
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Last year well summer of 19 he had a group that didn't want horses going to Bates. His first choice was Culliper but he said he had a full barn and Scott said no. Both of those recommended by Harris. A trio of juicers. Yes ended up doing well as we don't test at Yonkers for Miller. I'm still taken back the fool thinks the stable had a great year😂😂😂. Smoke and mirrors like regulations in China.
your sayin
erv..harris,,cullipher are juicers?
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If you read correctly the trio was Culliper, Scott, and Harris.
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Mostly everyone pre races with something or other
I think the scam with a Mac I will go on for as long as people want a small share of a horse
Don’t know who Scott is
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Scott George maybe he goes by Tyler?
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Golfhbm, a top trainer at Wind Gap wasn't happy Harrah's and Pocono let in a lot of out of state horses to race during the
shutdown days. Wonder how the Meadows horseman will take this if the stable starts shuttling down horses. I suspect fields
to be full and a harder time getting in since they are neither PA bred or PA owned. Since they race under the stable name they
can't hide ownership. Some of these mules will probably fit some softer conditions or softer fields but I see AM can't let others
race these horses in a qualifier leaving the babies to second rate horsemen.
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AMac the Stable is invadin' the U.S.A with a force
Brave World (who they paid about 90K CAD for) is in the 30K USD claiming series @ Miami Valley.
He backed through the whole field while racing from the outside in 4th.
Imagine the bills they are receiving from all of the shipping/vet bills alone, not to mention Bill Rhodes training fee monthly.
what is 1% of nothing?
on top of all the bills to boot...
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Horse looked like he hasn’t been trained
Not good
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Someone needs to explain why AM even cares as every month he gets his cut
what cut? If the horse is in the USA the owners pay that trainer and that trainer only. if he had sat in Ontario in a stall for 2 months during a shutdown AM would have got that training bill
can you describe to me the sensation you feel when posting something you don’t have a single clue about? how does that feel?
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AMac the Stable is invadin' the U.S.A with a force
Brave World (who they paid about 90K CAD for) is in the 30K USD claiming series @ Miami Valley.
He backed through the whole field while racing from the outside in 4th.
Imagine the bills they are receiving from all of the shipping/vet bills alone, not to mention Bill Rhodes training fee monthly.
what is 1% of nothing?
on top of all the bills to boot...
would you mind listing us trainers who aren’t charging shipping/vet/training bills?
that comment wasn’t too well thought out was it?
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yeeeeah the thing about that is : I’ve had horses down there. I know how the billing works. you two clowns ride in the same clown car? or do you both have unicycles?
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Nah they just aren’t racing right now.
AM collects the money from owners and it goes directly to the trainer. there’s no ‘cut’
come on guys, your New Years resolution should have been to be smarter.
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does any of AM 2 or 3 yr olds have any shot ata sires championship ?
i dont follow he lists..
so i dont know
dos he stake heavy?
does bluegrass stake for him or does he do it and charges clients
directly?
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in fairness I guess nobody noticed Stonebridge symba won again sunday night
check out his earnings his last 10 starts
and yes I am well aware he is not trained by the stable per say
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Other trainers get get them to go where Anthony and his clowns can't. They should call their stable "Fuck A Horse Racing Stable"
Sound familiar?
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does any of AM 2 or 3 yr olds have any shot ata sires championship ?
i dont follow he lists..
so i dont know
dos he stake heavy?
does bluegrass stake for him or does he do it and charges clients
directly?
I'll root for Willtowin Hanover ... Cantab 2FT Pennsy bred.
May God Bless you and your recovery.
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Other trainers get get them to go where Anthony and his clowns can't. They should call their stable "Fuck A Horse Racing Stable"
looks to me like their top earners over the last 2 years were in-fact trained by Stable trainers. want to try again? Or are you just gonna keep posting the same silly comments every few weeks?
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So lets see, first you say that the owners pay the trainers directly in the States and now you say that AM collects the money. Sure sounds like you are in the know. AM doe NOTHING for free. Wonder why he never explains Brave World, Stormont Wizard, etc.?
As far as Sires Stakes Champions I am guessing he had less than 10, no make that 5 horses last year that covered their expenses. Pretty sad when you consider he had 150+ in the stable.
He should change the name from thestable.ca to myracket.ca so at least he has truth in advertising.
the money goes from the owner to the trainer via Anthony. , are you dense? If you send me your address I’ll draw out a diagram and mail it to you. just use your brain. if the horse is sitting in Ontario he collects the full bill, if it goes to the USA to race he earns nothing. everyone likes to throw the word ‘scam’ around but no one even knows what they’re talking about. par for the course on this forum though I suppose
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the money goes from the owner to the trainer via Anthony. , are you dense? If you send me your address I’ll draw out a diagram and mail it to you. just use your brain. if the horse is sitting in Ontario he collects the full bill, if it goes to the USA to race he earns nothing. everyone likes to throw the word ‘scam’ around but no one even knows what they’re talking about. par for the course on this forum though I suppose
Stop dude I’ve in the business 20 fckin yrs
It’s a scam period ...
Don’t explain nothin
It’s a scam
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I’ve been in it longer than 20 years.
google “supply and demand” maybe you’ll understand how the world works.
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Stop dude I’ve in the business 20 fckin yrs
It’s a scam period ...
Don’t explain nothin
It’s a scam
Had a bad year + the Covid
If he (or anyone like him) gets a 3 yo to the Hambo, it will be the biggest party harness racing has ever seen.
It would have happened for sure with Authentic going for the Triple Crown.
I just don't see 1 Single Thing that can be bad about Spend a Little // Get All The Fun concept.
Unless you just hate the guy or are a bust out.
God Bless Your Recovery,
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The training bill itself should be more transparent other then. Its column of training bill and the cost for the month. When horses are shipping to different states and different trainers within a month your getting different daily rates. One horse I had went from ONT to IL to OH in same billing cycle. With totals in CDN you have to then convert. They can make it simpler if a horse is with Twaddle for the month it shows 30×45. Assuming that is Twaddle charge but that's the average rate at the Meadows. No stall rent unless your training babies down. Otherwise if this passes through the stable you have to wonder if it's the 66 a day they charge which I assume has stall rent, whatever they came up with for droning sessions and whatever else for extras, because 66US for that outfit when the CEO/trainer/driver admits openly on his videos he doesn't get up til 8am. How many trainers who have 5 to 50 get to the track at 9am or later? He has over 100 head? His 2nd and 3rd down the list are those the ones you want watching over the stable empire while you get some extra zzz's. So we know he hates the rain, the mud, and getting up with the rooster's. I'm still waiting on his huge plans since Mar to bring in all these new bettors and owners to this wondering game since Pro sports have been displaced. Yet in 1 month after the market crash 5mln people opened a new trading account. Since then 10mln. I can tell you easily where the bettors went with no trading fees in and out, while they could buy fractional shares of high priced stocks like a TSLA, and only have made money. Why would anyone waste time with horse racing if they know little about the industry and its horrible ROR?
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Twaddle charges $2500 a month for training. Overpriced for the stats he produces. Especially since you get stuck with AMac driving the horses most of the time too.
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You are right, the training bill ($4000) goes to AM who in turn send $3000 to the trainer in the States. I guess you forgot to add the little details of money or do you really think AM is just being a nice guy and is nothing more than a clearing house? Do you also think that AM is eating the cost of driving to The Meadows, driving the horses, stating overnight and meal expenses because he first has the best interest of the owners. If thats the case explain to me why Twaddle needs AM for anything?
I also notice that once again you FAIL to comment on how many horses covered their expenses in 2020. As far as Stonegridge Symba I would not be surprised that the $44K made covered everything and if so barely.
except I know what I pay and what certain trainers charge.
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And I've been in it more than double that. Maybe you should Google Titanic because you are going down with the ship.
don’t you guys say this every year but then 40+ show up in the barn?
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in my opinion you should own a minimum of 10% of any horse so you have some skin in the game.
This. Is. Why. Your. Opinion. Is. Awful.
Because you worry about other peoples money.
What makes you the Ayatollah of minimum percentage?
Why not 8%?
12% sounds good too, right?
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SAM THE SHAM AND THE PHARAOS
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That is exactly the appearance he is trying to create. That he is getting others interested in the game, when in fact he is only lining his own pockets. I completely agree that is at best unethical. And 1% ownership seems a little absurd.
didn’t the winner of the Kentucky Derby have thousands of shares for sale? I don’t see what the big deal is personally
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It never ceases to amaze how you completely ignore 80% of all questions but seem to continually state that you know the facts when in fact you know nothing regardless of how much you like to pound your chest and love to read your own dribble
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SAM THE SHAM AND THE PHARAOS
I'm giving AM's detractors and haters another 50 pages to move the story along. That's more than fair.
Then I'm out.
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I'm giving AM's detractors and haters another 50 pages to move the story along. That's more than fair.
Then I'm out.
IT WILL NEVER CATCH MINE
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Not in 1000 yeats.
LucPark Staple Report distanced.
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I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how it's bad to have 500 people own Wiggle It when he was a world champ/multiple Dan Patch winner.
How it's awful that thousands of people got bamboozled while owning the KY Derby-BC Classic-HoTY Authentic.
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what about Brave World? didn’t he get parked out the other day and didn’t finish well? what do you want me to do about it? lol
The other horse you’re referencing I know nothing about. perhaps something bad happened to him? injury? couldn’t tell ya.
I understand the model isn’t for you. that’s just fine.
but some people enjoy it, I’m sorry that upsets you.
I don’t enjoy Starbucks enough to pay $7
but if you do, great! drive on
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If you happen to hit the lottery that does not make you a math genius.
I hit it twice with WIJI and Authentic.
I don't care what you say. You don't make any sense.
You only hate AM and want to count other people's money.
85% of McDoald's first time owners came back for more.
You must have gotten destroyed in the business,,, only explanation possible.
I don't know what other people have lost or made with AM. And I don't care. Only people who like to hate and count other people's money - like you - care about that.
You quoting percentages of losers and $ amounts is ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Does this assist your understanding/
We're here to help.
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TheStable.Ca = great value with lots of fun. Going to be a breakthrough year, owners will be 43xc.2 at all the tracks.
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Breaking News...... Swandre is actually a AM employee and that's a fact so Swandre your gig is up. AM has been signing your paycheque for you and that's why many times you can't answer questions. You came on here just to sing his praises which is BS.
I used to think you were wrong often
now I’m wondering if you’ve ever been correct at all
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That's right fuck face keep deflecting. Nothing you say is anything but BS covering for AM
Agreed. Sticks up for the guy so he can go miles with the stock while AM burns cash elsewhere.
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Brave World....a 90K purchase should piss on 30 claimers unless AM is involved
Since you seem to have so much info on the insight of Stable.ca would you might letting us all know who signs your paycheck....could it be............... ............
JP Morgan Chase
Fidelity
Mesirow Wealth Management
TransAmerica
The guy renting my house in Marthas Vineyard.
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I have no idea where you get the 85% number
Like you I am here to help you out but I can't out which way you came in.
I was wrong on the 85%. It was 95%. You can Goggle it. tmbz1
So, should we believe you and your 3 sobbing friends? Or these guys:
Mark Weaver said "The decision to invest was simple. Ronnie and I love what the MacDonalds are doing with thestable.ca."
That's Mark Weaver, Ron Burke and Tony Sorello who bought in. ngc3 ngc3
You can Goggle that too.
You and your wailing fellow losers? Or Burke and friends?
We get it... you and others are old and think young people like MacDonald are ruining your sport. You got it backwards, old son.
We blame you.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ
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I enter the stable 2.5 years ago and they were closing in on 800 clients since the start in 2015. In 2020 there over th 800 number so the growth has slowed considerably. Also watching videos owners of shares have been more critical and have asked many questions while trying to understand the business. The last two yearling cycles AM has leaned heavily on his biggest share holders were he has to have given special deals to get rid of shares. Of all the clients no one knows how many are active or just hold pat with past now older horses. Where does it say Burke is involved with the stable? They have been in the past with one or two as the stable may break the horse Burke takes it and races. No one says getting a small amount of skin in the game is bad buts it's bad when you buy more horses then needed at those week long sales only to drive up the charges on your clients. All the excuses given for poor performance with "allergies" being by far the largest use excuse for two summers in a row. I've been in this business for 12 years and never once had a trainer say allergies unless it was due to bedding. He would be more credible when he says he knows zip on pedigree and bloodlines yet when sales come he throws pedigree around like he's Norman Hall. People on the outside or inside can criticize the stable. Believe many in the industry criticize the stable on many levels of what it is not.
AM chimes in on what HE is going to do with the early virus crisis with major league sports. He has failed to do anything and sports have come back in the meantime...with limit fans in the seats. Yet 10mln people have registered trading accounts. It's a much better time to make real money in the Biden era of solar, ev's, hydrogen, while printing money and lowering the dollar BITCOIN and all the blockchain involved with crypto. Plus there are NO trading fees and YOU can get out of any position without AM controlling your purse strings. It's been a great ride that should continue. Unlike horse racing with track closing, can't go to the barns, horses are off limits, but your claims of this post are wrong no one is sobbing as they give opinions which you seem to chime in with instead of the easier option of...just keep scrolling.
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"My 3 friends thought it would be fun. They didn't have fun."
Yes, that is sobbing. It sounds like a 6 year old who didn't enjoy the first birthday party he attended. 75 year olds should either know better or just move on.
how'd your mare sell at the used horse sale?
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I didn't sell a mare? Maybe Luc needs to feed better info to people?
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I didn't sell a mare? Maybe Luc needs to feed better info to people?
EVERYTHING HE AXED ME TO POST HAS BEEN LEGIT
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I didn't sell a mare? Maybe Luc needs to feed better info to people?
I never mentioned your horses or anything you race.
Period
I asked you on pm how’s your Indy colt doing last month other than that I know nothin about your mare colada’. I have a new trainer for my babies
Nor do I care about Anthony Mac stable
Or how he runs his pyramid scheme
Good night boys
Unfortunately I’m still in covid mode for three weeks now
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I never mentioned your horses or anything you race.
Period
I asked you on pm how’s your Indy colt doing last month other than that I know nothin about your mare colada’. I have a new trainer for my babies
Nor do I care about Anthony Mac stable
Or how he runs his pyramid scheme
Good night boys
Unfortunately I’m still in covid mode for three weeks now
"or how he runs his pyramid scheme" ngc3
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White tiger
Anthony driving got swallowed up in stretch in race 6 today at the meadows
Horse had nothin just before three quarters
You gotta be an idiot to get scammed into this guy pyramid scheme
I wood rather own 25 50 33 or percent of horse than buy into shares
Where u have no say so in nothin
It’s not entrainment it’s a FARCE
HOWS VIP INTERNET PARTNERS DOING LMFAO
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I wood rather own 25 50 33 or percent of horse than buy into shares
That's very 1980's of you.
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104 pages and counting of complete and utter drivel about a guy who couldn’t train a dead cat to lay still nor drive a hot spike into a cold snowbank 11.gn
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Which begs the question why is he driving horses anyone can drive in the US when he's suppose to be with and looking over babies. Getting the 3 year old horses back up and going when you have a shit track that frozen at these times. Horses go lame you would think he be the one looking over the investments???
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What did AM new group with his last set of horses that included his shares of WT to entice people to buy unsold babies with a raceway horse. Sounds like he priced WT way more then he's worth.
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valid points
historically the two year olds come back horrible at 3
lets see if that trend continues
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I happened to watch the Meadows yesterday, which I never do. Is he down there to drive the stables horses? I’m curious as I’d say there at least ten drivers there (mildly) with a better set of mitts then he has. White Tiger generally has some kick off a helmet, he was swishing away at him as they passed from all sides of the track halfway down the lane, unbelievable.
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Every track now a days has its own personal driving colony
It’s just goes with changing of the times no more new faces
It’s understood by many
Why not give horse to a driver stationed at meadows
Those boys will not let an outsider come try win a race on their turf
AM sometimes needs to use his head for something more than a helmet carrier
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Ronnie Burke
Erv Miller
Julie Miller
Jenn Bon Jovi
All great trainer but they get pros to drive their horses
They don’t drive themselves
It’s about winning to them the best chance at winning
Not seeing their name listed as driver
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Suckers born every minute
My buddy chris got hoodwinked on rose trotter
Jimmmy got taken purple got robbed
Sooner or later the pyramid will fall
It has to stakes payments coming up
And for the record
Ronnie and Weaver didn’t invest nothin in the stable
They have their own training center in Florida for babies.
Ronnie mite have pimped a Mac into beard in a race in canada
For some bullshit non winners race
Ronnie don’t need the stable or a Mac
Just a few facts
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Every track now a days has its own personal driving colony
It’s just goes with changing of the times no more new faces
It’s understood by many
Why not give horse to a driver stationed at meadows
Those boys will not let an outsider come try win a race on their turf
AM sometimes needs to use his head for something more than a helmet carrier
How does he drive at the meadows anyway, he lives in Ontario, the drivers in Pa are so bad its essential that he go drive
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Very easy answer. It does not matter if he is in Canada or not as the bills keep right on rolling. Travelling to The Meadows lets him pad more bills and also gives the impression that he cares about the horses but we all know all he cares about is AM. Amazing that White Tiger could not even beat $15 claimers. Still waiting for him or Swanhoun to explain Brave World and Stormont Wizard.
what about Brave World? they bought him and left him with the same trainer and he has devalued over time. probably the first time in the history of the sport a horse devalued over time. crazy isn’t it? 🤡
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Right on Luc and we might as well take this a little further. All those hockey players are getting paid appearances because Doug Gilmore said he has no part of any horses. I asked a freind who knows them all because he works for the NHL and I said just ask them and see what they say, and that was it no ownership by any of them. Their just pimping for him and getting paid.
you might me the most ill-informed person this forum has ever had. and that’s really saying something 🥴🤡
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For a AM employee you should be able to prove me wrong but you won't and have no chance because you would rather spread BS about how good TheStable is. Your gig is up so go muck stalls.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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For a AM employee you should be able to prove me wrong but you won't and have no chance because you would rather spread BS about how good TheStable is. Your gig is up so go muck stalls.
TheStable generated more revenue in one year then you did in your lifetime.
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TheStable generated more revenue in one year then you did in your lifetime.
Who Dat
1983 0.087 $6,243.00
It's not a lot of money.
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Your gig is up so go muck stalls.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Go muck stalls ngc3
The 4:30am tractor driver job is taken ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Travelling to The Meadows lets him pad more bills and also gives the impression that he cares about the horses but we all know all he cares about is AM.
He was in PA anyway to meet with clients getting making forward looking plans.
Check where his highest profile clients were the same day.
This is true 100
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of course iceman is correct on the hockey players, cmon fellas if you cant see through that one you really need help
and while the hockey boys aren't always the brightest they are not doing it for free shares of a nothing horse
they got some cash and a tax write off
and how about john daly, if amac called him now daly would have no clue who he was, daly will pimp himself out for anything for cash to pay for his vices
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and while the hockey boys
they got some cash and a tax write off
the hockey boys get a tax write off
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The stable probably did generate more revenue in one year but somehow you fail to mention expenses which I was told were almost 8 times more than revenue, yes 8 times revenue in 2020.
Care to comment on that?
Would love to see the actual books , bet AM makes 7 figures himself
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of course
as far as I know when you "buy" a horse you are allowed to write off the purchase and other "related expenses"
don't forget those fellas have not played in a long , long time
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brave world is not the worst of the purchases
of course actual purchase price is unknown ?? and don't tell me $90k
but he was bought so amac could take him to PEI for the gold cup and write off a bunch of vacation expenses for the family and friends
horse actually had a decent run when he returned in the fall of 2019
and in fairness he was trained by moreau and rarely driven by amac so not really a stable horse
just further supporting the suggestion of why he was bought in the first place
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Iceman, BJ, Golf and a few others - you should open up your own fractional stable - Ice can train as he has all the answers, someone else can be the accountant and mark up the bills as you claim, another one can do publicity (apparently Ice knows someone in every industry so promotional work should be easy).
The we can start a thread about your greatness that lasts 150 fucking pages or whatever this thing is at
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actually its not another fake name- Iceman - I read your posts - and I knew your purported friend, Bill Wellwood, all the way back to Moko N and Armstead Jim. Since you claim to know him, that should be enough obscure horse names to let you know that you arent the only person who's been around for "quite some time".
Since its a scam, set it up then so it isn't - and let us critique your (plural as its not just you sir) abilities etc.,
Those who can do, those who cant sit on haybales at 4 fucking 30 in the morning and just are ultracrepidarians
(and if Lance or the coon chime in, it isnt me - for the record).
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of course
as far as I know when you "buy" a horse you are allowed to write off the purchase and other "related expenses"
don't forget those fellas have not played in a long , long time
So, you get to "write off" the "purchase price and 'related expenses'" ??
Right?
How so? Do you itemize? On which tax form? Or is it a tax credit?
You can't answer because you are just playing make believe you know what you're talking about.
Prove me wrong.
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Iceman, BJ, Golf and a few others - you should open up your own fractional stable - Ice can train as he has all the answers
The we can start a thread about your greatness that lasts 150 fucking pages
BOOM
actually its not another fake name- Iceman
Those who can do, those who cant sit on haybales at 4 fucking 30 in the morning and just are ultracrepidarians
OMFG BOOM ICEMAN STAY DOWN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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calhoun
don't know if you are canadian or american
in canada it is called net farming income
line #14100 on the tax return
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yes, line 14100
wouldnt an owner in this venture be considered a gentleman farmer so deductions (since apparently no one makes money) are limited or non - existent and to a maximum of X ? ($8750 I believe as their income or lackthereof is not primarily from this venture)?
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golf is correct
with many many owners on a horse (10,20,30 or more) no one has enough clout to make a decision for all the others so it defaults to amac even though he likely has no shares in the horse so he does what is likely best for his interests in the stable to keep people paying
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golf is correct
with many many owners on a horse (10,20,30 or more) no one has enough clout to make a decision for all the others so it defaults to amac even though he likely has no shares in the horse so he does what is likely best for his interests in the stable to keep people paying
tmbz1
Plus no owners are allowed to talk to each other about their horses
Everything goes thru Mac
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As far as tax reporting goes if your in America with shares of horses with the stable there are no 1099's nothing that shows ownership and yes if AM buys 800k who's writing what off with any proof? All true on not being able to know or contact the partners. There is a message board which really isn't used. Was frowned upon by AM when it went up because people would air some grievances with poor racing performance. I suppose if someone started a thread other owners could participate but it's not used much. He has total control of keeping the rats. Notice he doesn't sell on auction anymore because his horses couldn't catch a live bid. So now priced on the board which never gets lowered and they never get sold. 3 or 4 months of more poor racing, no money, more charges and owners left with a falling asset. If the horse ever sells it will be at an much lower price and the Bill's will net it to a lose. If you can't cut the fat when it's time your a POOR manager of money when it's not yours. That's what makes this thread 108 pages long. The guy is a thief to his own base.
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Been a while since I checked on drone day since the 3yr olds aren't droning yet. Markets have been keeping my attention. So the first four races 27 trotters 13 breakers wow almost 50%. Race 6 five trotters at the end of the mile just 1 stayed flat. Race 8 Threepointbluechi p sure hands AM set that off stride early as well. But the CEO said a good day after all. ngc3
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geld them
throw the trottin hopples on them
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Those 10k on average purchases are stud worthy galloping around the track lol
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never put out videos
where u make some horses look worse than others
owners already feel they got junk and its only feb 1
all theose videos should be reviewed and edited before
posting..
the stupity continues,,
takter,,alagna, erv. brian,,
always review and edit babies training videos..
why wood a person want to see their horses breaking all over the track,,
unproffessional on
A MAC PART
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i know there are some instances where a $150 k yearling is no good and a $20 k yearling is a champion but most times you get what you pay for
some going to ohio sale in feb, must be really bad , but they probably cost $15 k
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Thestable premise is entertainment and transparency...to a point. Give the owners a look every two weeks at their babies training down. What it gives the owner is 100% view of their horse shares vs the BS of trainer saying horse looks like 1.0m bucks. Goes well and very smart. Here you get to read between those lines. Horse can't trot a lick, has no heart, when asked to go is empty. For that transparency the stable tacked on a monthly fee for Curtis to drone and whatever expenses to it. Those would remember when that minimum went up. Sad part you would hope it was pro rated because it's 6 months of the year. Once it is time for qualifiers that charge is padded to the bill.
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at least they keep the cash in the family
part of the plan
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Been a while since I checked on drone day since the 3yr olds aren't droning yet. Markets have been keeping my attention. So the first four races 27 trotters 13 breakers wow almost 50%. Race 6 five trotters at the end of the mile just 1 stayed flat. Race 8 Threepointbluechi p sure hands AM set that off stride early as well. But the CEO said a good day after all. ngc3
With all those runners it looked like a simulcast from Aqueduct
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Yes lol FUF8H
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never put out videos
where u make some horses look worse than others
owners already feel they got junk and its only feb 1
all theose videos should be reviewed and edited before
posting..
the stupity continues,,
takter,,alagna, erv. brian,,
always review and edit babies training videos..
why wood a person want to see their horses breaking all over the track,,
unproffessional on
A MAC PART
So in the spirit of transparency I wouldn't mind this. They aren't robots. They're gonna make breaks or have bad days training down (and racing for that matter).
I guess if you wanted to make an argument against doing it, it would actually be more self-serving to AM, because you are going to have novice owners want to jump ship after watching one of theirs break or train poorly.
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its barely February
doesn't really matter one way or the other
when they get to 2;10 or less than you can start to separate them
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LOL!!
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I suppose most big stables have the same issue somewhat maybe not the breaking of horses at nearly 50% clip. It is known the big trainers have a survival of the fittest program but at Jan 30 to have so many horses so far back of two maybe sometimes three pull away. Not sure thats the best way to show the product and IF we are being real the atable may have a lot of babies but are NOWHERE near the top stables. Meaning for the value of the stable and entertainment they are not in the business of a survival of the fittest program looking for grand circuit and which are sires. For the stable they will get a handful of sire or lower stake and the rest nw1 and 2 or the fair circuit. Sad part he thinks everything he purchases will be a racehorse and are left to hold the bag through a two and three year old campaign earning little...in the name of entertainment.
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Once we get to June most of them will be lucky to get to 2:10
AM has a high percentage qualify, same as Blake Macintosh, that is where they peek
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Any updates out there?
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Any updates out there?
Yes. Last quallies looked like Belmont.
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Yes. Last quallies looked like Belmont.
We had to band that mutt golfhbm.
Him and his 15 pages of lies got vaporized.
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We had to band that mutt golfhbm.
Him and his 15 pages of lies got vaporized.
The guy that works there gotta at least try iggy list awhile as well. Reads daily, like countless others however...carry on.
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Who owns the farm , heard the owner beat up and kicked some girl tgat works there
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https://twitter.com/TheStableCanada/status/1364954280126541829?s=20
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certainly appeared "funky" gated after the half
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certainly appeared "funky" gated after the half
Did she make a little break
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Can't go fast enough to make a break lol
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Rumour has it stable moving operations to Ohio, Ontario track is garbage and can't get horses trained
Lookout USA 350 million to target, Macdonald will make millions more
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Track does suck but don't see the move since it would incorporate his brothers to make the move as well. One does all the droning and one is at least a real driver then AM and the balance who help train down. Is there a OH track that could take 100 plus horses? Might help there older horses because they can't compete in at Mohawk. Plus they would need to hire a new accountant to deal with US taxes since ONT seems lax on horse racing rules and 1099"s
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Who cares about that stable,,,,Who in their right would get involved with that
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could be possible
no concern of the brothers , they have lots to do outside of the stable .ca
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Well one brother is involved enough for AM a few years ago to increase the monthly rate because of the cost of droning and whatever else Curtis does for the stable. Which in an odd way one must wonder how they came up with that expense? A few years ago you have 60 or 70 head raise the prices as they drone once every two weeks. Was that difference spread over the year? Your only droning to June 1. If your horse is injuried and comes back in the summer or fall it is never droned to see the horse work down. When the horse turns 3, 4 or older well that horse for the most part never gets droned again. Yet it's in the monthly bill increase a few years back for cost and build out. And to pay Curtis. Now fast forward and the stable is 110, 120, maybe more? Yet the cost doesn't come down because the stable has double and takes in theory more revenue. While the droning day might be a little longer.
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Speaking of droning.....
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Only caught set five with 2 of the 6 making a break. Set 6 another field of 6 and only ONE remained trotting. Comments AM goes I don't want to make excuses but goes on making two or three excuses ngc3 ngc3. For some reason on the live feed you were always able to rewind and watch from the beginning? He mentions lots of breakers today but says it's March and you want to teach this or have it happen so they aren't doing it in the summer. Well I'm not Inwould have explained it that way to my clients. Because it can mean a whole lot of things breaking this early especially not going fast like they will have to in 4 months to q.
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Anthony is the Benny Hinn of harness racing,preaching his agenda and beliefs to line his pockets at the cost of his followers..he can't drive or train a lick but he's got the gift of gab and deflection..Antho ny is the face but the real mastermind behind this could give Bernie Madoff a run for his money..FACT.!!
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You haven't got a clue what's going . Your a failed in the game with a chip on your shoulder
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pockets , please expand based on your inside information
i think some of the comments made by others are fairly accurate
but always interested in a opposite view point
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So 6 sets of trotters 35 went out and 16 made breaks. Over 5 months or more and this isn't the only drone session go back a few weeks and nearly half made backs. Nearly 50% again making breaks and the list of excuses although he doesn't want to make excusing is typical off his lack luster couple years of lies that the stable has had great years. The success is limited to the 60 or 70 yearlings he buys each year. If your hitting on 3% or less of buys AM is a FAILURE buying his bullshit value of crap.
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Geez thought this topic had finally died however Horses First is going to provide the bi-weekly update or whenever the drone or the update videos come out. For someone who spews the negativity and the dont participate warnings you sure have an avid interest. Its almost like "well I am not involved in it, but I feel compelled to shout out to the masses updates on this situation".
While your 3% comment may be close to accurate, there are some who did successfully pick out and participate on winning horses who have done well. Its about the choice of horses that you make.
I am going to deduce that you were involved and didnt chose a horse in the "3%" group hence your belaboured crusade.
thanks for the update though - I will now go to watch this debacle as you described on youtube. Waiting for Iceman to chime in; he's usually not too far behind as well.
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No inside information here I am just calling as I see it . He's done nothing but good for the racing game .
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the topic should be dead, everyone is just repeating the same
yes some people do make a bit or break even but odds are against you( as they are in racing in general)
but the costs are high
numerically very few horses even come close to break even so you can assume most people are losing money in the stable
as always to each their own , if you enjoy it and like the updates and don't mind losing some "entertainment $" than have at it
and yes you have to believe he has brought new people into the game and he is buying 60-70 yearlings each year that he would not be if not for the stable
but it is what it is , for the most part below average yearlings( pedigree and conformation) and hope to get lucky with a few to keep the dreams alive
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The real doctor I still have one horse with the stable and had a handful over the past few years. It's an opinion forum if you don't want to take part or do take part in the topic at hand thats fine. This forum puts out worthless topics day after day and most not even horse related. I've owned horse for 12 years and just about out these days. I picked out every yearling I every owned and it's close to 50. Maybe a handful I went in on as a partner off a trainers choice. I didn't have a large budget and looked for value or horses that were bypassed because of being to small. I did pay 50k once for a horse and was a dud. Would usually spend between 17k-25k and for the most part I did well turning out 13 one those with 100k or more by end of 3 yr old racing. Then would normally sell. I will say I picked my handful of horses that did a little to pay bills and a lot that just didn't have the heart to be a race horse. This topic continues to play out and I will continue to yell the sham of AM saying this is only entertainment value. The clients will and for the most part catch on and get frustrated. They have but the comments of AM for past two years beating a dead horse with allergies. He is a fraud in the sense of the term horsemen. The guy gets to the track after 8:30am with his Starbucks. Good day
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It’s a hard game most Lose money
I have lost a lot
It is what it is.
Anthony is not entertainment
It’s a theory.
Some invest in his theory
Some don’t buy into it
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If Anthony MacDonald is good enough for Burke, that's good enough for me or, for that matter, anybody else.
Lot of people hate Baffert too. They are Drips.
But what they really, Really, REALLY hate is that over 1,000 people can say they owned a small piece of a Derby-BC Classic - HOTY.
Just.My.Very.Humb le.Mother.Fucking .Opinion
jmvhmfo
Fuck them hateful drips.
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burke ???
seems he sent some horses up to canada with hennsley
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Burke has zip to do with the stable. Maybe a couple years ago bought shares and then bought the horse out and trained. Eric Cherry did the same. Go around the industry and those types laugh off the stable and the guy who gets there after 8:30am. Who the fuck runs a large stable over 100 horses and isn't there at sunlight. The big trainers have quality horsemen as second and third trainers not this sham of an outfit. I know this isn't a public traded company but if it was there would be guys like me shinning light on short seller reports on how a fraud this guy is. From the start of buying yearlings based on value while talking about pedigree while openly saying knows 100% nothing about pedigree. Using investor money to buy horses cheaper because they toe in or toe out racking up training bills as most have never made it to the track or did little as they continued on. The profuse use of allergies as to why the horses don't perform week after week red pimples blah, blah, blah. One could go on and on with a report how bad a organization based on entertainment while having clients believe paying high monthly bills(78US a day) for a pet is entertainment. For those who want to buy in for a 1,000th of 1 share to say they owned a world class champion...whatev er floats your boat but your doing it with a world class trainer(maybe / chemist) but world class with world class horses. EVERYTHING THE STABLE IS NOT. If my posting shines light for clients asking for better or wanting to exit so be it. The stable hasn't grow much then the close to 900 clients they had a few years ago. Not to mention last March how AM touted everywhere as the pandemic set in how racing should take over sports as the 4 major sports had to take a hiatus. How has that worked out? The fool didn't do a single thing other then cry when tracks started to close. Only shining a light don't like the comments scroll and move the fuck along!
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No inside information here I am just calling as I see it . He's done nothing but good for the racing game .
I would be interested to know how many new owners he has brought into the game that went on to be more than a couple percenters. How many did he chase away from the game with his extras and keeping cheap horses around just to collect additional training bills.
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For one thing he should have all the racehorses in Ontario with McMaster he can still light one up maiden at the half in 55 seconds at flamboro
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What does it matter to anyone what his schedule is? There are 24 hours in a day and I’m sure with close to 100 head the greater part of his position is public relations. He’s not the trainer. He’s the manager. Pretty simple. No one is forced to invest. I hope the hundreds of new people he has introduced to the sport are enjoying it as much as people like to run their mouths about it.
The real doctor I still have one horse with the stable and had a handful over the past few years. It's an opinion forum if you don't want to take part or do take part in the topic at hand thats fine. This forum puts out worthless topics day after day and most not even horse related. I've owned horse for 12 years and just about out these days. I picked out every yearling I every owned and it's close to 50. Maybe a handful I went in on as a partner off a trainers choice. I didn't have a large budget and looked for value or horses that were bypassed because of being to small. I did pay 50k once for a horse and was a dud. Would usually spend between 17k-25k and for the most part I did well turning out 13 one those with 100k or more by end of 3 yr old racing. Then would normally sell. I will say I picked my handful of horses that did a little to pay bills and a lot that just didn't have the heart to be a race horse. This topic continues to play out and I will continue to yell the sham of AM saying this is only entertainment value. The clients will and for the most part catch on and get frustrated. They have but the comments of AM for past two years beating a dead horse with allergies. He is a fraud in the sense of the term horsemen. The guy gets to the track after 8:30am with his Starbucks. Good day
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What does it matter to anyone what his schedule is? There are 24 hours in a day and I’m sure with close to 100 head the greater part of his position is public relations. He’s not the trainer. He’s the manager. Pretty simple. No one is forced to invest. I hope the hundreds of new people he has introduced to the sport are enjoying it as much as people like to run their mouths about it.
my trainer as most good trainers do get there at 6 am or so
the horses get their work done by noon,,especially with large stables,,
but maybe ANTHONY,,has a differnt way..
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my trainer as most good trainers do get there at 6 am or so
the horses get their work done by noon,,especially with large stables,,
but maybe ANTHONY,,has a differnt way..
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CAN GO UNTIL 2:00 SOME DAYS AND HE CANT GO WITH 25% HIMSELF DAILY...TOPS. NEEDS GOOD HELP tmbz1
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CAN GO UNTIL 2:00 SOME DAYS AND HE CANT GO WITH 25% HIMSELF DAILY...TOPS. NEEDS GOOD HELP tmbz1
I was there this past week.
They start at 630. Finish by 1 or so
He’s got lots of good help
If Anthony starts at 830 or 9
It can go till 3 or4 if work on horses done properly
I guess Mac likes his way
It’s not the norm
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I don't really care what time any trainer gets to the barn
in early leave early, in late leave late, 4 or 5 nights a week these guys than have to go to the track for 4 or 5 hours
they get judged on results, nobody is punching a time clock
you do well you get rewarded with more and better horses
fuck the dog and don't put in the time you will not have many horses to train
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I don't really care what time any trainer gets to the barn
in early leave early, in late leave late, 4 or 5 nights a week these guys than have to go to the track for 4 or 5 hours
they get judged on results, nobody is punching a time clock
you do well you get rewarded with more and better horses
fuck the dog and don't put in the time you will not have many horses to train
Your stupid
I’ve mistakenly thought u had a brain
Horses get worked at sunrise not sunset
Thks for not makin an intelligent response when asked
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Don’t matter what time he gets there, he’s got people that start jogging early working for him anyways. There is no norm in this business everyone does it their way. Who cares what time he does anything anyways bottom line is he does it his way.
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Your stupid
I’ve mistakenly thought u had a brain
Horses get worked at sunrise not sunset
Thks for not makin an intelligent response when asked
Doesn’t matter when they get worked, as long as they get worked. If you think a horse can tell time you’re fucked. Some horses actually do better getting jogged later everyone of them is a individual and some are bad early in the morning.
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relax luc
use some reason
I am suggesting that not all trainers need to be there at 6 am everyday
if a horse gets jogged later once in a while( meaning perhaps 8 am) not a big deal
also depends on your location and season, clearly in the hot weather you want to be done early, in the winter you might be dependent on weather
also if a trainer has say 50 horses they don't all get trained at sunrise, perhaps the first set, last set might be donr at 10 am
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I was there this past week.
They start at 630. Finish by 1 or so
He’s got lots of good help
If Anthony starts at 830 or 9
It can go till 3 or4 if work on horses done properly
I guess Mac likes his way
It’s not the norm
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THE 8:30 GUYS USUALLY ARE NO STOCK
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relax luc
use some reason
I am suggesting that not all trainers need to be there at 6 am everyday
if a horse gets jogged later once in a while( meaning perhaps 8 am) not a big deal
also depends on your location and season, clearly in the hot weather you want to be done early, in the winter you might be dependent on weather
also if a trainer has say 50 horses they don't all get trained at sunrise, perhaps the first set, last set might be donr at 10 am
Joggers go out first, then first set is usually 7:00 if you have a ton. 8:30 if 30-40 head...just depends. but however a guy wants to do it is what really matters. I just don't want my stock standin on crossties when feedtubs are rattling elsewhere...other than that,I'm good.
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Your stupid
I’ve mistakenly thought u had a brain
Horses get worked at sunrise not sunset
Thks for not makin an intelligent response when asked
I remember stopping in Truro years ago. The owner would go to work for the day then on his was home stop and jog Somebeachsomewher e. He did ok. If anyone thinks there is a correlation between when time a day a horse gets jogged and how they perform in their career, well, I guess that's why you are posting on here.
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Joggers go out first, then first set is usually 7:00 if you have a ton. 8:30 if 30-40 head...just depends. but however a guy wants to do it is what really matters. I just don't want my stock standin on crossties when feedtubs are rattling elsewhere...other than that,I'm good.
thats his schedule to a tee,,
you must have worked for him tmbz1 ;D ;D
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Lots of good discussion here.
I learned a lot.
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Lots of good discussion here.
I learned a lot.
Alot of experts on here tmbz1 tmbz1
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Southpaw you couldn't be more wrong as him being the manager. His clients, their money, his picks buying the yearlings, the overall investment is huge and if you can't be there when the sun rises to look over your stock before they hit the track...to me as an investor a problem. Why? Leaving it up to a groom or second, third, fourth trainer or how many he may have. Those that just work at the farm to jog a horse who's going over the horse to check for the slightness of lameness, make sure a horse didn't knick themselves overnight, are temps checked every morning, any of the littlest things a qualified trainer would caught. Not saying his staff isn't up to the task and maybe they are and I'm wrong? It's not some small 20 horse stable it's well over 100 and if one can't take the time to be there when the horses are out and going it's bad managment. If the stock market opens at 9:30et am I not going to be up and see what the pre market looks like. Not go over my stocks for a upgrade or downgrade to MANAGE that stock correctly on the open? He doesn't need to be there 10 hours a day but your going to learn more with potential mistakes happening at the beginning of the day not hours later. Please Cigar let me know when your stable hits 100 and you have to change your thinking?
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Almighty expert horses ass, I have no plans of ever having a 100 for one. Second thing is most trainers with that many head hire qualified people to let them know when the horses are off somewhere. But you must have already known that since you seem to know everything. Let me know when you actually figure out what part of the horse has a tail horses first.
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Wow.
Look at all the learning going on.
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Cigar if the Cubs or Soxs started practice at 9am and the manager walked in at 11am...is that ok? From what I see at the stable for three years a lot is left to wonder on his trainers. The ones doing the jogging have hands of stone like AM himself. Cigar for your personal info I'm not a trainer nor do I muck a stall. Sonething I'm sure your great at. However as a owner for 12 years my investment wasn't only in the horse but for the trainer who I paid to watch over that horse. AM daily fee of 78 a day should go further for his clients then sleeping in and grabbing his starbucks at 9am. So go back to your 4k claimers you total washout!!
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Cigar if the Cubs or Soxs started practice at 9am and the manager walked in at 11am...is that ok? From what I see at the stable for three years a lot is left to wonder on his trainers. The ones doing the jogging have hands of stone like AM himself. Cigar for your personal info I'm not a trainer nor do I muck a stall. Sonething I'm sure your great at. However as a owner for 12 years my investment wasn't only in the horse but for the trainer who I paid to watch over that horse. AM daily fee of 78 a day should go further for his clients then sleeping in and grabbing his starbucks at 9am. So go back to your 4k claimers you total washout!!
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Another plop poster thats misinformed. However never entitled and worked very hard for everything I have. Kinda hard to start as a runner at the CBOT to become a grain broker then top it off as a grain trader. In a mere 15 year period of the latter went on to do very well for myself. Was I a great book student during school not so much...did I work my ass of in life! You bet your fucking last dollar I did and at 51 I trade equities and options while bike, run, and swim all for fun. Have a sprint tri next week first of the year. As far as your 4k claimers, I will match my two trotting mares from 2012-2015 divison winners in IL. I have had bust big fucking deal I'm a big boy don't give a shit. I was a net lose of 6k in horse racing in 2020...so what.
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Listen I really don’t give a fuck what you did or didn’t do! Or what your mares from 1820 won! I really don’t give a shit if you win the Hambo or lose a nw1 to be claimed. All I’m saying is you sure care about what everyone else does on here. Makes you salty like planters peanuts!!!!!!
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Everyone loses money in harness who cares..
I sell cars who cares ..
It’s how long you can stay in the game and have fun or self torture depending on how you look at it
With either stakes quality horses or four claimers
Everyone loses money owning horses
I lose every yr. some yrs a little most yrs a lot
Who cares
Back to the Thread
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Everyone Cigar? I beleive just the stable as I point out specific things some may want to know. I can give a shit about anyone else. I'm not on here starting dumb ass post about nothing especially horse related. I'm not on here touting my horses. Never have. I think someone once started one on a nice PA trotter I had. I'm the furthest thing from entitled but what the fuck I sure am response to bullshit youbor someone else may post. Don't like my post on the thread...again move the fuck along. If you want to debate something then debate. But Cigar you want to call me out you better have some facts to back it up. I've put back my ton of cash back into racing and a lot more then I ever won. I figure with the way you can write off income with racing loses I would much rather write the 6 figure loss to a trainer and grooms then write it to the government and their waste in spending. I see light in everything far from salty but if there is a sham show going on I'll continue to post the fuck away...so like jt or not. Your the one injecting false bullshit and I'm far from fucking clueless.
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Everyone loses money in harness who cares..
I sell cars who cares ..
It’s how long you can stay in the game and have fun or self torture depending on how you look at it
With either stakes quality horses or four claimers
Everyone loses money owning horses
I lose every yr. some yrs a little most yrs a lot
Who cares
Back to the Thread
HE CALLED THE GUY A WASHOUT
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HE CALLED THE GUY A WASHOUT
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With batting average of like .350!
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Another plop poster thats misinformed. However never entitled and worked very hard for everything I have. Kinda hard to start as a runner at the CBOT to become a grain broker then top it off as a grain trader. In a mere 15 year period of the latter went on to do very well for myself. Was I a great book student during school not so much...did I work my ass of in life! You bet your fucking last dollar I did and at 51 I trade equities and options while bike, run, and swim all for fun. Have a sprint tri next week first of the year. As far as your 4k claimers, I will match my two trotting mares from 2012-2015 divison winners in IL. I have had bust big fucking deal I'm a big boy don't give a shit. I was a net lose of 6k in horse racing in 2020...so what.
You sound a wonderful piece of lying shit.
Pigeon Jim.
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You sound a wonderful piece of lying shit.
Pigeon Jim.
Horses first is just putting facts out about the scam that is the stable.ca. Trying to protect people without his life experience and what he learned from owning shares. I don't see why he is being attacked.
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Rumour has it some pending positive at Mohawk...
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Rumour has it some pending positive at Mohawk...
da mcdonalds goin in on da tarmac for spring. heard da mccobalt sandwich is da masterpeace
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MORE TRAINERS IN THE INDUSTRY DO THINGS MY WAY THAN YOU THINK. I AM A PLUMBER BY TRADE, TRAIN AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT CAUSE IT IS SO EASY.
IF I HAVE A BILL PAYING PLUMB JOB, THAT TAKES PRECEDENT. MAKE SURE THE HORSES ARE FED, THEY LIKE THE MORNING OFF AND GLADY GO OUT FOR A CHANGE OF ATMOSPHERE, A LITTLE WARMER, A LITTLE MORE SWEAT, A LITTLE BETTER EXERCISE, FOR THE BOTH OF US
MY 5000 CLAIMER DONT GIVE A SHIT, AS LONG AS HE GETS FED
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For one thing he should have all the racehorses in Ontario with McMaster he can still light one up maiden at the half in 55 seconds at flamboro
Or maybe not
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2 horses with cobalt positives and out 30 days. Kevin has been let go by the stable. If anyone remembers when the stable first got up AM was listed as trainer of all the horses...smaller stable at the time. Then he got a positive. Then switched to his wife until see got a positive. So from there AM only had one move to employ other trainers and list horses under there name. So the AGCO informed Dontblvmejustwatc h and Tymal Houdini as the two testing for cobalt.
As far as the worthless Poon on this site he wouldn't know truth and ia the forums biggest liar. Still racing out of that stable in MI you worthless lying piece of dog shit? Name your list of horses again you have raced in your name as you have claimed? Please don't lie?
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For the haters out there the stable droning day still plenty of breakers but less than past month of droning. Looked like the earlier sets AM must have gave Curtis the keep it tight shots on video of the top of the field and not the back of the field. So much for transparency? For those who pay monthly bills for droning and transparency 2 of the 3 three yr old OH trotting fillies qualied poorly at Northfield. Would have been nice seeing them train down all winter but I guess youbonly get that at 2 but still pay for it at 3 and older?
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Notice of 2 Certificates of Positive Analysis.
Horse: Tymal Houdini (5PM91)
Track: Flamboro Downs Race 4. Finished 4th March 6,2021 Tag # 33 21065 317
Cobalt (Class III) quantified at 137ng/ml.
Trainer: Kevin McMaster (4255R5)
Horse: Dontblvmejustwatc h (4RM57)
Track: Flamboro Downs Race 4. Finished 1st March 7,2021. Tag # 33 21066 006
Cobalt (Class III) quantified at 451ng/ml.
Trainer: Kevin McMaster (4255R5)
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Notice of 2 Certificates of Positive Analysis.
Horse: Tymal Houdini (5PM91)
Track: Flamboro Downs Race 4. Finished 4th March 6,2021 Tag # 33 21065 317
Cobalt (Class III) quantified at 137ng/ml.
Trainer: Kevin McMaster (4255R5)
Horse: Dontblvmejustwatc h (4RM57)
Track: Flamboro Downs Race 4. Finished 1st March 7,2021. Tag # 33 21066 006
Cobalt (Class III) quantified at 451ng/ml.
Trainer: Kevin McMaster (4255R5)
With levels that high how are they going to blame it on vitamins or allergies
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Is Allard still an owner with the stable
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When McMaster was lighting the world on fire (over 20 years ago now) he had milkshaking down to a science, had his own machine etc. Obviously he’s not got Cobalt down to a science. Harry Sherwood went from cheap claimer to FFA horse & countless others sprouted wings back then too.
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Comsidering the RMTC levels for fine and warning are 25 ng and over 50 is fine, suspension, horse can't race until levals are under 25 ng. The levels on these two are extremely high and way over the BS excuse of enviromental or supplements that average in a horse at 3.8 ng. AM bs statement to owners on Friday to clients that are dumb enough to believe.
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you said that for a year and a half Ice? You also said McMaster was going out on his own (well I guess he is now).
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I just watched Anthony MacDonald's YouTube video about Kevin McMaster and how he fired him Friday. First off why are all his videos done in his vehicle, answer because he doesn't want anyone to know about his bullshit. Anthony claims all the trainers are getting their paycheques every week which again is bullshit since when is a month become a week. When you see Anthony doing his videos he is always fidgeting and many times not looking into the camera or phone another sign of a bullshitter. His day is coming and all the investors, hope you had fun getting taken.
If he fired McMaster on Friday how did mcmaster trained stable horses race this weekend?
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McMaster fired Friday but still listed on horses Sunday.
Blue Monk
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Horses first is just putting facts out about the scam that is the stable.ca. Trying to protect people without his life experience and what he learned from owning shares. I don't see why he is being attacked.
No he is not protecting anyone. He is offering his garbage opinion..
Horses First / aka Lyin Pigeon Jim is...
bitter and angry that
1. He's lost a lot of money owning.
2. Didn't bother to read the prospectus from MacDonld (pigeon)
3. Has to pay
What he really, Really, REALLY can't stand is that Calhoun has owned minor shares in WIJI (world champ) and Justify (KyDerby-BCC-Horse of-The-Year) and enjoyed doing so. He CANNOT STAND THAT.
Lyin Pigeon Jim says my $$ invested is too small to "Qualify" ... ngc3 ngc3
So he has his misery laden thread where he counts other people's money. And some of his fellow bustouts and has beens chime in.
I offend the man because I've owned champs for small money. tmbz1
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No he is not protecting anyone. He is offering his garbage opinion..
Horses First / aka Lyin Pigeon Jim is...
bitter and angry that
1. He's lost a lot of money owning.
2. Didn't bother to read the prospectus from MacDonld (pigeon)
3. Has to pay
What he really, Really, REALLY can't stand is that Calhoun has owned minor shares in WIJI (world champ) and Justify (KyDerby-BCC-Horse of-The-Year) and enjoyed doing so. He CANNOT STAND THAT.
Lyin Pigeon Jim says my $$ invested is too small to "Qualify" ... ngc3 ngc3
So he has his misery laden thread where he counts other people's money. And some of his fellow bustouts and has beens chime in.
I offend the man because I've owned champs for small money. tmbz1
"lying pigeon Jim" I'm crying
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you said that for a year and a half Ice? You also said McMaster was going out on his own (well I guess he is now).
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Iceman is as good with his predictions as he was training horses.
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Iceman is as good with his predictions as he was training horses.
Iceman is legit tmbz1.
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the calhound---- jim b ,wars
continue
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the calhound---- jim b ,wars
continue
Lying Pigeon Jim vs rich black guy
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the calhound---- jim b ,wars
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Should be on PPV
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Ha Ha my little poon boy, I could care less of your minor award(good for you man) as a 1,000th of 1 share of world champion. I had 50% of a IL champ that made 400k. Yes, lost money in the horse racing industry but had a career as a 1% that afforded me to do so. I would rather give the money to a trainer and his workers off setting my income then giving it to the government to waste. SO be it! POON has gone on to claim he raced out of a MI stable he owned NOW to a little fractional partner of 2 horses. Man the lies this guy feeds the people. The only thing I'm angry with is POON bitch owned all these horses but won't name any other then WIJI? Why lying Poon name all your horses you owned at that MI stable?
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Iceman is legit tmbz1.
1983 0.087 $6,243.00
with inflation, that got to be $15,000?
Still, that's not a lot of money.
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1983 0.087 $6,243.00
with inflation, that got to be $15,000?
Still, that's not a lot of money.
No way!!!!!!
That’s got to be a mistake
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It takes a smart man like Poon to buy into small shares at a loss just to claim he owns a sliver. Buys into WIJI and two other horses for 5k and by hi own claims lost half that amount. Buys into a horse valuation of 15mln and won't cash a check into the second or third breeding season..my Hero! Iceman he has been using "Pigeons" for six or seven years. His material is old and stale. Same song and dance to every poster in which he argues with, which seems like most going years back.
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It takes a smart man like Poon to buy into small shares at a loss just to claim he owns a sliver. Buys into WIJI and two other horses for 5k and by hi own claims lost half that amount. Buys into a horse valuation of 15mln and won't cash a check into the second or third breeding season..my Hero! Iceman he has been using "Pigeons" for six or seven years. His material is old and stale. Same song and dance to every poster in which he argues with, which seems like most going years back.
Losing 5k in 3 years is sometimes a win win
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Where did i say he lost 5k(I said half) and where did 3 years come from?
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Excuse me...you have been poon whipping boy for as far as i can tell seven years and going. That is old as the both of you...
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Boy that is the pot calling the kettle black!. Life is my beach so the sandbox is rather large. I call it like i see it I will even leave this worthless site if poon listed every hirde he ever owned that wasn't a syndicated share. That's all I ask and yes I have beaten that horse dead...live with it.
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Losing 5k in 3 years is sometimes a win win
Lyin Pigeon Jim's math is off.
The problem Pigeon Jim has with lying about Calhoun's money is he can't remember the last lie he told.
At this point, he doesn't even try. He just lies and hates.
And keeps counting my money.
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No he is not protecting anyone. He is offering his garbage opinion..
Horses First / aka Lyin Pigeon Jim is...
bitter and angry that
1. He's lost a lot of money owning.
2. Didn't bother to read the prospectus from MacDonld (pigeon)
3. Has to pay
What he really, Really, REALLY can't stand is that Calhoun has owned minor shares in WIJI (world champ) and Justify (KyDerby-BCC-Horse of-The-Year) and enjoyed doing so. He CANNOT STAND THAT.
Lyin Pigeon Jim says my $$ invested is too small to "Qualify" ... ngc3 ngc3
So he has his misery laden thread where he counts other people's money. And some of his fellow bustouts and has beens chime in.
I offend the man because I've owned champs for small money. tmbz1
Don’t forget ur soon worked at a company 10 years post bankruptcy and daughter went from junior year to nurse supervisor overnight
We are jealous u have a time tracking machine, a lying problem and or severe dementia.
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Bob you can always hit the ignore button u won't hurt my feelings. However when you do keep it that way unlike lying Poon and his ignore list. Also Poon those are your words I grabbed off your post with another member a few years back. I can post the number in which you stated exactly what I wrote so not a lie at all.
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Bob you can always hit the ignore button u won't hurt my feelings. However when you do keep it that way unlike lying Poon and his ignore list. Also Poon those are your words I grabbed off your post with another member a few years back. I can post the number in which you stated exactly what I wrote so not a lie at all.
Bob who?
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No biggie Mazola there was a misunderstanding.
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Listen up fuck face take your losses like a man and suck it up your the one who's argument is getting old.
U r a plop punching back not seen since the days of rainman or Steve g
Please stfu you geriatric broke bird watching north of the border cunt
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Bob who?
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Bob who?
BOB THE BUILDER
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BOB THE BUILDER
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Another keyboard tough guy. I wouldn't even work up a sweat tuning you up.
U geriatric Canuck ur older than my grandpa please stand down and go back to looking for the pigeons
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Go back to looking for pigeons ngc3
Classic
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It’s nice to see when someone newer to the sport happens upon this page looking for information on The Stable, they’ll scroll through this thread and just find pages and pages of people throwing personal insults at one another :D
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It’s nice to see when someone newer to the sport happens upon this page looking for information on The Stable, they’ll scroll through this thread and just find pages and pages of people throwing personal insults at one another :D
That's good for the stable
Back to topic, is mcmaster barn the only one on cobalt, McKinnon horses coming to life now too
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20 days and $1,000 for 2 cobalt positives, extremely light after the public shaming and firing on the chiefs YouTube video
The Stable gets special treatment from the agco and standardbred Canada
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That's good for the stable
Back to topic, is mcmaster barn the only one on cobalt, McKinnon horses coming to life now too
That filly that won at Mohawk last night, I’ve been following all along as she was one we really liked at Lexington. Decent bred, good looking filly. I tend to follow the ones we don’t buy, but liked. Had the exacta on her, so I won’t complain.
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Can we get Purple Picks guy to weigh in here?
That 30-ish Hebrew who claims his man-boobs are muscles...
That guy. tmbz1
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agreed
you fellas need your own subjewct thread
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Phoney trainer comes up with a positive..must be that shit he brought up from Ohio.
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you told us you were on track to lose at least 2.5k
dont lie
is this the lesson you were trying to teach me with "what would calhoun do?"
was the answer blow 5k to teague?
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Quote from: Hurricane on July 29, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
I don't agree.
How much did he make last year? $1.7 million. That's a loser for his investors.
There were other horses included in the sale of shares, including a full sister to WIJI.
Calhoun, as an investor, can tell you how he did last year and so far this year.
I have 1/3 of a share-$5000. I'm on track to lose.$1-1.5k.
I'm not lying.
My money in was $5000. I got some back the first couple years. So I was out that $2500. Down a bit more since then. And I'm still losing. My share is worthless.
Where's the lie?
Calhoun never lies. Never.
Ain't no fun in lying.
I'm not a big shot like you ... I can't get horses with a top 5 harness Jew.
But I got one of the champs horse shoes.
So this was Poon old message so no I didn't have it wrong.
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WTG AGCO. Deny transfer to McGinnis because he’s not at arms length and under same umbrella. Guess AMac should of went with the mother in law
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WTG AGCO. Deny transfer to McGinnis because he’s not at arms length and under same umbrella. Guess AMac should of went with the mother in law
He should have went with one of his guys that's at least in Canada
How nervous must McGinnis be with his name on horses he's no where near
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you told us you were on track to lose at least 2.5k
dont lie
is this the lesson you were trying to teach me with "what would calhoun do?"
was the answer blow 5k to teague?
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Re: WIGGLE IT JIGGLE IT
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2017, 11:00:39 AM »
There were other horses included in the sale of shares, including a full sister to WIJI.
Calhoun, as an investor, can tell you how he did last year and so far this year.
I have 1/3 of a share-$5000. I'm on track to lose.$1-1.5k.
My money in was $5000. I got some back the first couple years. So I was out that $2500. Down a bit more since then. And I'm still losing. My share is worthless.
Where's the lie?
Calhoun never lies. Never.
But I got one of the champs horse shoes.
So this was Poon old message so no I didn't have it wrong.
Jim Bafai // Pigeon Jim // Lyin Jim:
You are at the most pathetic lying point of your life here Jim.
You're quoting from 4 years ago, you moron. WIJI was still running in 2020... my mare that won $400,000 ran another 2 years ... the 3rd horse I never mentioned ... you have no clue what that one did ... residual values ... etc...
After hours and days you still know Fuck All about anything.
And you're still trying to count my money. ngc3 ngc3
You are so fucking pathetic that Iceman sees fit to wipe the floor with your lying ass.
But, hey, way to spend your Friday night ... reading 4 years of Calhoun's posts. Good enthusiasm Jim. ngc3
No wonder your wife has to strap on just to fuck you.
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Name calling getting INTENSE HERE
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Name calling getting INTENSE HERE
CALHOUND WON THIS DASH WITH NO URGING...TRACK RECORD
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Sure rhing Poon you did alright for a orphan.
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Poon your post correct in 2018 states exactly your 5k investment that you were losing money and the share was dead. The hiorse didn' race in 17 or 18 and made some money in 2019 and 20. So quoting you in 18 you "lost money" explain where I'm wrong? See that I a nerve ngc3 ngc3
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Poon name the mare and your 1/3 of a share WIJI made 32k in 19 and 20 so he adds nothing.
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BTW Poon the reason for the repost goes to your point of saying you had to champions your were part of and those champions haven't returned a dime but you may get some breeding dollars back in a few years on the thoroughbred. Congrats!! I can care less about your money or the name calling when one reverts when they have ni argument solely based on the orginal point.
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WILL ANOTHER Canada racing shutdown
really hurt
AMAC RACING
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Why does anyone care about this stable???? Can’t understand it
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Is he still crying on Facebook m?
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Name calling getting INTENSE HERE
I put Lying Jim Bup on IGGY a week and a half ago.
Has he apologized to Calhoun yet?
CALHOUND WON THIS DASH WITH NO URGING...TRACK RECORD
Lyin' Pigeon Jim is fine punching bag.
For counting others' $$$, and for telling lies about Calhoun, it is deserved.
I asked nice... then I warned him ... He lies about Calhoun ... Calhoun tells the Truth about him.
He's on Irrevocable IGGY.
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Is he still counting?
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The stable continues with more breakers not only training down or there horses on the racetrack. Trace no hands Tetrick broke one at MV yesterday and placed fifth on another. As far as an iggy list you should have kept it in place I as made you my little bitch on a lease. You never name a horse you owned how about a lie I was to have told? I see you have a little fat man on your side that you use to take behind the woodshed and whip him like a little boy. Strange bed fellows there.
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Luc was a friend but like a good friend that knew Luc as well said beware. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer type of deal. The guy is bi polar and you never know day to day. Not to mention the six or seven names he post under on horseplop. Never seen someone burn so many bridges but that guy has.
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i burn nothin
you accused me that i had mentioned me bout your colt few months back
on here
i never mentioned anything about your colt to anyone on here
nor do i care
good luck with him i got him in my stable he has not run yet anywhere
so hopefully u fixed his issues
..i have my own worries with my four new baies plus rgf..
good luck ,,with the horses you bought back at sale you bred
and your other colt..
...your issues are with calhound
not me,
,later good luck with yours make it to the races..
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Don’t you guys realize roc just fucks with you people. It’s mind blowing how people talk about other people and their horses on here.
Here’s a clue most of the people don’t give a shit! No one cares if the stable makes millions or loses millions or if anyone on here wins the hambo or not.
Everybody on here is a expert on horse racing, but are they really?
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I’m not an export I lose money every yr
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I’m not an export I lose money every yr
Most people do
You at least admit it.
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My beef with Roc isn't about a horse or any of my horses. Not even horse related. Probably just confused with one of his six posting names or multi personality and I can care less with any fake good luck bullshit he wishes or wise cracks with his newfound buddy. If I cared about losing money, I would have left the business many years ago. Although I have one leg out the door anyway. I've posted for decades here and other forums 11% on average make money in harness and 7% in thoroughbreds. It's a net net loser all the way around.
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Most people do
You at least admit it.
it is what it is,,,
.. no biograpghy ..
needed
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it is what it is,,,
.. no biograpghy ..
needed
Rumor is you got a nice one this year roc
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Rumor is you got a nice one this year roc
no mine are no good,,just horses..
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ice,,you still the BIGGEST FCKIN PIGEON ON HERE
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Known roc for a bit we both in car biz
I just come on here to fuck around really could care less about most of the shit posted on here. Roc is roc when you realize that than your good. He’s not a bad dude just is high maintenance type of guy. I call him a one upper. As for people talking shit most of them don’t know shit that they spread on here to begin with.
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Ice make it a good tik tok
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A. Mac became a millionaire off this joke operation. Hell hes bought over 500 yearlings with the Stable. C.A and not one horse had a huge year making 500k or more. Hell a blind squirrel finds a nut once . The guy is 0-500
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A. Mac became a millionaire off this joke operation. Hell hes bought over 500 yearlings with the Stable. C.A and not one horse had a huge year making 500k or more. Hell a blind squirrel finds a nut once . The guy is 0-500
YOU GOTTA BE A PIGEON TO INVEST IN A MAC ITS A RIPPOFF SCHEME
,,OR SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A DEAL WHOS LOOKING FOR CHEAP MONTHLY PAYMENTS tmbz1
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Ohio fairs starting up soon
Trucks and trailers are on the move today
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I heard 50 colts on the way
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I heard 50 colts on the way
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Why do people care about this outfit,,,,,I don’t get it
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Because it is a Ponzi scheme
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The asshole has even sold horses without the owners knowing anything.
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Well now...lets just pat him on the back,
He went to Walgreens to get his vaccine shot..ummm he's not American sooo how did he get it....🤔
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For those that just say AM is a manager doesn't matter what time of day he gets to the barn...well that will be hard to do living in Ohio? What he goes back twice a month for drone videos? Leaving 40 something babies two months from qualifing and the toughest stretch for a baby training down before racetime...some manager. The potential for clients are the two yr olds since most of the 3 year olds look like bottom nw classes again. May have a few standouts time will tell. He has made it clear if Ford goes remote learning for school his family is packing up heading to the US through summer. Maybe he has better help then Ron Burke that AM doesn't need to be around his youmg horses giving clients hands on day to day info?
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Still a fkin asshole.
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What a steer by cement hands in the 4th from Northfield.
Not only does he drive the horse like a cowboy, he decides to carve the horse a quarter of a mile at 1-1 on the board.
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Racing a couple at Northville, Jesus imagine those training bills to race there?
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these people don't care about the bills that is obvious. A few years ago with 80 head they raised the 1 share amount by 1.75 for cost of droning. They figured that cost onto a future basis of having 100 horses. They have roughly 125. A horse gets droned as a yearling and into the two year old training right up to qualifying. Then never again as long as it is with the stable. So 100 shares per a horse x1.75x125 horses is 21,875 a month x 12 262,500 a year when they don't even drone a full year. If the horses are kept at 3 or longer it's just free money churning. Padding the bills although he didn't see it that way. The three yr old horses coming back look like the average stable of nw1 nw2 and stuck at nw3 types. There could be a few decent ones time will tell. Pandemic and three years of poor AM buys the stable hasn't added that many clients the past few years and people will only take so much BS from a guy filled with it poor race after poor race with redness and allergies can only go so far. Yes for my haters I'm beating a dead horse so live with it and scroll on...I'm down to a one horse Stable.ca member.
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why dont u sell your share horse
have him buy you out
can u sell ,,will a mac approve sale
or buy him out and move horse
im not understanding why keep horse there
leave a stable sell or buy out horse
thats usually how it goes
why keep horse there?
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It's a horse I like so will keep it. Again my post is to bring light to some of the over charges of the stable that many don't know. I will point out as it goes so you don't need to worry why I keep one horse there as a small owner. I don't get your post I never said I wanted to sell or get out of my last horse just your guess or reason to post about my horse which wasn't a negative to the post or past post?
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i will aks you the question in a different way
if you dont like the stable or its its of doing things why keep a horses or even 1 horse with them
if he over charges you and the rest of the shareholders why sty with him..thats all i asked,,
i left ,,j macom,
last yr
,,i could have kept ,,luc rocks and baci but i sold them..
my belief is if you gonna leave for what ever reason clear your horses out one way or another...
i liked luc,,hes good horse,,,
but i left,.
i just asked why you wood keep a horse there knowing how a mac charges ,,thats all
and i agree with you ,,on the a mac stuff you post
thats all i asked,
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why would you expect the bills at Northville to be high ?
the two horses that raced there look very competitive and the purses are not bad for the quality( or lack thereof) of competition
not sure if you noticed but the purses are rather small in ontario lately
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pls stop
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in a storm any port will do
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Will this move to the states be a permanent one for the stable? The Macdonald house in Toronto would for over a million, buy a nice place in Ohio
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the one I have is a half sister to the first foal I had that was very good at 2. The pedigree is very good even though it's MY MVP and not Cantab Hall. The value is more after racing then racing because she isn't very big and doubt she is sire stakes. Buckeye will make money and keep bills even. Plus I can still get all the bs fed to owners. Makes for a good ngc3 at times.
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Race 6 tonight at Northfield
Cement hands takes the 9/2 Stable horse and drives it out of a cheque
shareholders take it like Lance does
Rinse
Repeat
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Saw race bad drive
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why dont u sell your share horse
have him buy you out
can u sell ,,will a mac approve sale
or buy him out and move horse
im not understanding why keep horse there
leave a stable sell or buy out horse
thats usually how it goes
why keep horse there?
Is it time for
Pigeon Jim Stable Report?
You call it.
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Orphan boy troll Poon, obviously you saw the report so troll along nothing for you to see.
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Big day for the stable two wins congats
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Join me in rooting for Plop's own Horses First tonight at Hoosier.
Photo Image, well staked as a 2 year old last year, goes in a NW1 this evening.
Any in-the-money finish will catapult this 3 yo home bred over the $5,000 mark in lifetime earnings.
Good Luck
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ngc3 ngc3 IN sires and KY sires glad you are following along. No high hopes I don't use horse racing forums to tout horses that race every night. But hey I have a real horse in with a real name tagged to it much more then the orphan Poon who STILL hasn't named a horse he has raced other then a fake MI stable and small % ownership in syndicated horses. Man up my little bitch name your horses?
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You could have posted about watching my % part of the stable Imalovelylady come in 2nd in Buckeye race but your new found butt friend Rocco couldn't give u the heads up on that one. While your 1/2 of 1% Miss M still training down which means a summer of fair racing. Which isn't a bad deal. Photo will race KY fairs as well.
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Jim I don’t care where u race or when u race
I don’t like calhound he been fckin with me for five yrs now
I choose to ignore him u chose to argue with him and he made you his PERSONAL PIGEON
I never once sent him any messages about your non winners horse or any other of yoyr horsss I really don’t care
Last reply to this idiotic argument between you and calhound
I really don’t give a shit about your horses
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pretty sure it was done about 100 pages ago for the rest of us
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Sure thing Rocco. Mr. so full of bullshit your years of nonsense post ,many fake names you post under, the years of your text messages crying about this trainer that trainer, this drive or that drive. Your the biggest wind bag on this forum. You say u don't care where I race but not long ago injected why I raced at Miami Valley. Your such a fool 73cv.2 . PJ was right a long time ago you are just a cancer.
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You boys have a wonderful summer!
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You could have posted about watching my % part of the stable Imalovelylady come in 2nd in Buckeye race but your new found butt friend Rocco couldn't give u the heads up on that one. While your 1/2 of 1% Miss M still training down which means a summer of fair racing. Which isn't a bad deal. Photo will race KY fairs as well.
Rocco Short Steps didn't rat you out.
You earned it yourself.
And, no one cares about your stable of rats.
Except, perhaps, your stable star 3 yo of last year that you own with about 9 other people...
Tell us about Bange Bi, please. Last seen at Monticello.
Was that the plan all along? To compete at Monti?
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ngc3 ngc3 IN sires and KY sires glad you are following along.
It's not hard to follow along... Right in the program ... Dead Fucking Last ... and ... Next To Dead Fucking Last ...
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Does Tony still have covid?
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MACDONALD, ANTHONY A GUELPH, ON
Mea on 6/2/2021
INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THE WHIP
PA Code Title 7-205.409(c). While driving #6 Warrawee Welcome in race 12 at the Meadows on June 2, 2021, Mr. McDonald did whip his horse during the stretch using other than wrist and elbow action. Mr. McDonald is fined $200 which is due within 10 days of this ruling. Mr. McDonald has 10 days to appeal this decision to the Pennsylvania SHRC, Bureau of Standardbred Racing.
MORALES, RENALDO III
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Join me in rooting for Plop's own Horses First tonight at Hoosier.
Photo Image, well staked as a 2 year old last year, goes in a NW1 this evening.
Any in-the-money finish will catapult this 3 yo home bred over the $5,000 mark in lifetime earnings.
Good Luck
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There were many many qualifiers today at Northfield
The Stable had many entered..and I must admit I was doubtful about having so many 2year olds ready to qualify
I was wrong
he raced 18 2 year olds and 1 3 year old
3 wins 7 places 2 shows
All shown as trained by Jason McGinnis
Hard to knock this performance
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some were not bad
lets check back in a month
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Half mile track really can’t tell much
Slow miles
Bigm has nice qualifiers going Sat morning
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some were not bad
lets check back in a month
Agreed.
I saw a few that looked fairly legitimate. Time will tell how they compare to the rest of the Freshmen crop
I will say this for The Stable.
The number of 2yos they start with, versus the number they have that at least get to the races, is QUITE high. They have a bunch qualifying tomorrow/Saturday north of the border too. I really wish I had the time and wherewithal to track some of the bigger trainers’ start rate but I will tell you, just on numbers alone they aren’t getting as many started.
I’ll venture to guess there are some that qualified today and this weekend that could do better with some time. But at least they’re getting there.
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I see square head is now training for the stable
Don’t lose your cell phone this time Johnny
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Northfield is by far the best half mile track that races day in fay out. Horses seem to float over this track and the times are pretty square. The stable sent out some decent stock that did well qualifing in early June. Plus with most being OH bred they will race over that track early on. Lets also be fair Chris Beaver stock doesn't Q over the half there so hard to judge over the top trot trainer in OH. With that said about some decent stock they will need it as the US base of 3 yr olds is dim on stake horses unless your counting the second tier buckeye or stallion. Not sure how the ONT group is coming. They better hope to have a few because its bern a few years since Lawmaker any 3 yr old has dine some damage on a stake level. Yes may have but he went on a tear at Yonkers as Erv trained. Time will tell in a few weeks if there is any there...there.
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Brilliant Corners for Poulton going in 55 56, first start for Auciello goes in 51 under wraps
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shoe change i am sure
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Almost There Boss went his last half (Mohawk/Woodbine) in 101 after cutting the half in 56'4?
Century Invictus went a huge mile (155'2)
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Join me in rooting for Plop's own Horses First tonight at Hoosier.
Photo Image, well staked as a 2 year old last year, goes in a NW1 this evening.
Any in-the-money finish will catapult this 3 yo home bred over the $5,000 mark in lifetime earnings.
Good Luck
Well, let's all hope Horses First, aka Pigeon Jim, gives us an update soon on his buzzsaw homebred 3 yo Photo Image.
COSTS
* As 2/3 yo.. training costs ..20 months @$3,000/mo = $60,000
* Weaninling/yearling costs .... 12 months @$1,500/mo = $18,000
* Stakes payments in 3 states ... expert estimate ... $30,000
* Broodmare in foal expenses ... 10 months @ $1,200/mo = $12,000
$60,000 + $18,000 + $30,000 + $12,000 = $120,000 out of pocket
EARNINGS
Lifetime earnings are nearing the coveted $10,000 level
LAST SEEN - a week or so ago ,,,
5 5/6H 5/7Q 5°/5 5/12H 4/17H 10.10
Getting beat 17.5 lengths most starts on the Midwest Chitlin Circuit will not deter our beloved Pigeon Jim as he grinds toward losing $200,000 on his cherished pet homebred.
Can't wait for Jimbo to break down some A-Mac costs, like he did on the $1.27 a month he pays for "excessive drone expenses."
Pigeon Jimbo Bafta ... they'll sing songs about you.
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its a tough game
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Well, let's all hope Horses First, aka Pigeon Jim, gives us an update soon on his buzzsaw homebred 3 yo Photo Image.
COSTS
* As 2/3 yo.. training costs ..20 months @$3,000/mo = $60,000
* Weaninling/yearling costs .... 12 months @$1,500/mo = $18,000
* Stakes payments in 3 states ... expert estimate ... $30,000
* Broodmare in foal expenses ... 10 months @ $1,200/mo = $12,000
$60,000 + $18,000 + $30,000 + $12,000 = $120,000 out of pocket
EARNINGS
Lifetime earnings are nearing the coveted $10,000 level
LAST SEEN - a week or so ago ,,,
5 5/6H 5/7Q 5°/5 5/12H 4/17H 10.10
Getting beat 17.5 lengths most starts on the Midwest Chitlin Circuit will not deter our beloved Pigeon Jim as he grinds toward losing $200,000 on his cherished pet homebred.
Can't wait for Jimbo to break down some A-Mac costs, like he did on the $1.27 a month he pays for "excessive drone expenses."
Pigeon Jimbo Bafta ... they'll sing songs about you.
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A sucker is born ever day
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the stable.ca has a few decent ones it appears
and of course lots of not so decent ones
but hey its a numbers game
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agree iceman
but have to give them their due so far
most yearlings they buy under $20k
and they have 4 or 5 that are legitimate sires stakes horses
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LOL Calhoun must be a little peeved that he has been outed as a liar that he is indeed Stinky Terry and he has gone ballistic fudging a lot of numbers. Good one Terry. O biggest lie Calhoun isn't BLACK!!! Barn to Wire Terry also played the Mr I known everything always in the grill of posters. Your a FAKE Poon! You still wearing all that flannel you stinky old man. Now that I know who you are I'm sure the post will be taken down. I will just keep pointing out you old WHITE has been. Wish I can remember the stable you raced under in Chicago. Janine told me but it has been so long.
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CALHOUND IS CLOCKER TERRY FROM BARN TO WIRE,,
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Yes Ice, guys have nailed him in another thread that know him from both sites. Pointed out the flannel wearing old dude, that is white not black, is Calpoon. Hence the way he acts has to come on this thread and added more lies as the pigeon brain himself is as FAKE as they come. Just as bad as pathetic poster having 8 names they chime in under. Just cancers to society. He is pathetic go ahead and spread lies poon and I have plenty of money so no need to worry.
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Hey POON add another 1k to the list after a stomach scope looking for all reasons why the horse has elevated white cell counts but no sickness over the last month or so. Also another 250 for lung x-rays. So go ahead and knock the horse but your not going to finish a race with high white cell counts. We have a checklist over the weeks what he doesn't have that would effect this spike and with the scope takes out anything that a mass is the problem. So he remains a mystery. I will keep you in mind with vet bills so you don't need to fabricate your numbers! 73cv.2
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Hey POON add another 1k to the list after a stomach scope looking for all reasons why the horse has elevated white cell counts but no sickness over the last month or so. Also another 250 for lung x-rays. So go ahead and knock the horse but your not going to finish a race with high white cell counts. We have a checklist over the weeks what he doesn't have that would effect this spike and with the scope takes out anything that a mass is the problem. So he remains a mystery. I will keep you in mind with vet bills so you don't need to fabricate your numbers! 73cv.2
NEEDS A BLOOD BUILDER
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Vets say that doesn't work on White counts. Just passing along what the trainer said. I wouldn't know one way or another. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Vets say that doesn't work on White counts. Just passing along what the trainer said. I wouldn't know one way or another. Thanks for mentioning it.
white count is infection? anemia for sure. Gotta get red count up some way, just saying. Good luck tmbz1
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horses will break your heart every time
yr after yr,,,
but everyone still goes into the game with highest of hopes..
baby game is the hardest to play..
99% of them end up being just HORSES,,
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Since when does white count have anything to do with anemia?? Maybe try doing your research before posting.
Suggest u do same tmbz1
either fighting inflammation or infection...both cause anemia...try Google before opening your beak. tmbz1