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Calhoun

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Re: CHANGES IN HARNESS WHEN IT RETURNS....HRU
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2020, 02:39:53 PM »
WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THAT SAID TO INSTALL THE CLAW GAME TO ATTRACT YOUNGER CROWDS?
All you need to do is have:

1.  Women 18-25 get 3 for 1 drinks

2.  Live music.

You do those 2 things, you will beat them away.


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Re: CHANGES IN HARNESS WHEN IT RETURNS....HRU
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2020, 02:48:47 PM »
All you need to do is have:

1.  Women 18-25 get 3 for 1 drinks

2.  Live music.

You do those 2 things, you will beat them away.






I'm not sure 18 year old women can legally drink alcohol.
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Re: CHANGES IN HARNESS WHEN IT RETURNS....HRU
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2020, 05:38:42 PM »
You nailed it, Ice.  Right on the button.  Tear the whole frigging thing down and start from scratch!

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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2020, 07:26:11 AM »
 WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU, BUD, IN THE INDUSTRY, HOW COULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN STUPID?  ALL YOU AND YOUR FELLOW TURD GRADE GRADUATES DIDNT HAVE A CLUE.   AMAZING HOW ALL YOU FUCKS DIDNT GO OUT OF BUSINES DUE TO SORE ELBOWS FROM PATTING YOURSELVES ON THE BACK ALL DAY LONG

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Re: CHANGES IN HARNESS WHEN IT RETURNS....HRU
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2020, 10:47:51 AM »
  All wagering activity should be ceased and the money directed where it is needed.

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2020, 11:02:17 AM »
7.4 Billion....do you think that the government will ask why are we supporting harness racing and try to decouple??........whatever happened to the PA State budget which was going after the PA racing fund...the state budget was to be voted upon in June........right after 9-11 happened which was a major catasrophe, they passed the slots bill , so due to this catastrophe I wouldnt be surprised if they go after the slots bill in the tri state area and amend it.......financia lly the city of ny and the state will be strapped for cash with no sales tax revenue and loss on state income tax revenue....though ts?
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Re: CHANGES IN HARNESS WHEN IT RETURNS....HRU
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2020, 12:35:41 PM »
EXCELLENT
Will you also be solving ( single handily) drug abuse, alcohol abuse  and physical abuse

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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2020, 02:48:58 PM »
I never said racetracks make "ALL" problem gamblers.

You did say that. Your exact words were

"They all basically share the same story: Somebody took them as a child to track and they're still ensnared in the gambling game decades later"

As for 11 to 16 year olds gambling in any country they don't bet on horses or have credit cards or betting accounts and the study didn't say they did either. You don't need an account to lose your allowance to the neighborhood shark whatever the wagering format is. card games, sports abilities or prop bets to name a few.

Just to be nice to a couple of your opinions I'll agree that the vast majority of online bettors make more deposits than withdrawals which is common sense as the sites would not exist otherwise, and of course compulsive gambling is addiction based. So is the tobacco industry, liquor industry, drug industry, porn industry and countless others.  The human psyche is addiction based .. the trick is knowing how do deal with it and being able to control it which few people do.


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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2020, 03:45:51 PM »
Finally …  A non hateful non judgmental post without any misrepresentation s and a lot of truth.  I'm going to shock the shit out you by giving you a  tmbz1


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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2020, 04:43:57 PM »
I know a couple guys who earned in the seven figures by their early 20"s playing poker. They're very sharp younger adults who understand variance and probability and certainly weren't afraid of anything being too complicated. They were smart enough to realize that betting on an unpredictable animal in harness racing also invloves other factors such as the human element of trainers and drivers in the equation and that gamble paled in comparison to betting on themselves and outsmarting a few other guys at a table. Like it or not, the industry is commonly viewed as corrupt and full of degenerates and a lot of that is regurgitated innuendo that is passed along through generations. It's a perception that becomes reality without even visiting a track. My humble guess is if you polled 1000 random people on a few questions about their perception of harness racing the results would be disasterous for those hoping they can somehow turn it around. Another factor is the liberal mindset concerning a sport that has been proven over and over to drug/dope and abuse animals. I'm not trying crush anybody that makes a living racing their horses as this entire conversation started with Harnessstats talking about trying to introduce young people to standardbreds/harness racing through youth programs. I merely stated that I thought that was a terrible idea because I'm on the other side as a bettor and I've seen the negative effects of gambling on horses firsthand with people of all ages for almost 50 years.

The "novice" gambler apparently finds the other avenues you listed above as more fulfilling, exciting, or when it comes to sports/fantasy sports or single-deck blackjack (etc.), a more legitimate bet. I can see a major rise in gambling on sports and even previously unimaginable things like eSports as legalization spreads throughout America. Today's demographic are a trip on may levels.

I'm just giving you my insight from this side of the fence. Not saying it's gospel, but if the industry had considered this perspective years ago and tried to clean it up and market it properly, perhaps the game would have a much healthier bottom line and future such as horse racing currently does in other regions of the world.
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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2020, 04:52:38 PM »
Sorry the truth hurts. Just like a wortless Dem to attack that which they don't undertsand or agree with.
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« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2020, 05:24:13 PM »
Of course you do .... or you wouldn't have responded.
You get one sentence to earn my interest.

You've failed 60 times.


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« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2020, 05:43:21 PM »
Sorry the truth hurts. Just like a wortless Dem to attack that which they don't undertsand or agree with.

Here we go again, bringing politics into a discussion that has nothing to do with politics.
Let the facts speak for themselves.
Kids get interested in horses because of the horses, not the gambling.
I know many horse people who don’t gamble.

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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2020, 05:54:38 PM »
Wow dude.  I gave you a compliment to try to bury the hatchet and off you go again.  Please go see a shrink, you have a lot of problems and posting here is not helping you, it's just adding to your obvious misery and self hatred for being an admitted Degen lifetime loser in the horse racing world

By the way I have personally seen on more than one occasion kids in junior high play craps in the back of study halls. Of course that was more than 50 years ago but I doubt if that has changed

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Re: CHANGES IN HARNESS WHEN IT RETURNS....HRU
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2020, 07:38:42 PM »
wow pick 6 pipedream
you really have a hate on for harness racing, clearly the sport has harmed you in some way and you blame it for your issues
and yet you seem to only single out harness racing as the devils work but no other vices
yes to some any form of gambling can be addictive and destructive
weak people can succumb to any number of vices, drugs, alcohol , sex  etc
harness racing is not illegal or immoral for that matter so i would  say to you and anyone if you don't like it or cant handle it don't participate , no one is forcing you or anyone else to do so

 

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