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Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« on: December 15, 2023, 09:43:36 AM »
Grainges, a "B" track is handling $500,000 USD a race , running right now.

Vincennes starts at 10am ET ... will handle way more

Lots of people on the apron.

What are the French doing that we can't?

Can the French help us?  They helped us free ourselves from England 250 years ago.  We helped them by entering WW1.

Do the French have welfare in their harness racing?





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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2023, 09:45:21 AM »
Grainges, a "B" track is handling $500,000 USD a race , running right now.

Vincennes starts at 10am ET ... will handle way more

Lots of people on the apron.

What are the French doing that we can't?

Can the French help us?  They helped us free ourselves from England 250 years ago.  We helped them by entering WW1.

Do the French have welfare in their harness racing?

Thats an easy one. Horse racing is still a revered sport in France and in the UK.  American bettors have no interest, and the sport doesnt lend itself to drumming up renewed interest.
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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2023, 09:49:37 AM »



What are the French doing that we can't?




they severely penalize juice trainers-like toss them for life for one offense

Calhoun

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2023, 09:51:27 AM »
Thats an easy one. Horse racing is still a revered sport in France and in the UK.  American bettors have no interest, and the sport doesnt lend itself to drumming up renewed interest.
Thank you for reminding us of these things.  I appreciate your time.

That said, what is the horsemen welfare status there?

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2023, 09:59:13 AM »
The French government runs and controls racing in France via its wagering system, PMU. 

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2023, 10:30:58 AM »
Thats an easy one. Horse racing is still a revered sport in France and in the UK.  American bettors have no interest, and the sport doesnt lend itself to drumming up renewed interest.
And they don’t have a casino on every corner over there

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2023, 10:35:53 AM »
they severely penalize juice trainers-like toss them for life for one offense

Sadly, no.

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2023, 01:43:04 PM »

What are the French doing that we can't?


They can train trotters --- watch a field of 12 be double tiered and without trotting hobbles.

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2023, 01:48:40 PM »
They can train trotters --- watch a field of 12 be double tiered and without trotting hobbles.
All trotters over there. They piss on pacers.  Practically have their own breed of trotters.

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2023, 02:03:50 PM »
The wagering options over there are limited compared to the U.S
The fact that the industry there doesn't tolerate bad apples is the icing on the cake.

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2023, 07:17:24 AM »
Lots of responses... thank you... appreciate all of you.

Still... the question remains ...

Does French harness racing have a welfare support component?

Thanks

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2023, 07:22:52 AM »
N0. In US dollars the purses are nothing compared to ours.

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2023, 07:40:37 AM »
N0. In US dollars the purses are nothing compared to ours.

Can you quote any purses? I looked up the most recent Vincennes purses and they were pretty much $35,000 or $40,000. But I don't know what currency is being quoted.  It's not euros or francs apparently.
Not arguing, just asking.

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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2023, 08:01:00 AM »
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Re: Is French Harness Racing Supported By Welfare Like U.S.?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2023, 12:29:48 PM »
Here is your answer.
https://www.drf.com/news/harness-french-experience

From the above link:

While in many cases trainers charge a lower daily rate to owners in France (one mentioned $38 a day), that is made up by the fact that they receive 15% of the purse when their horses get a check, compared to 5% in North America. That sum adds up quickly since the average purse in France is $20,000 compared to $12,305 in 2021 at U.S. pari-mutuel tracks. It is also worth noting that the top seven get paid in each race in France compared to the top five in North America (though some stakes in North America pay a small percentage to horses which finish sixth or worse).

 

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