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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2022, 09:10:43 AM »
That should mean Dane is giving it all up. He most likely will be a Fed's witness for the indicted as well as the unindicted at this point.

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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2022, 10:00:13 AM »
That should mean Dane is giving it all up. He most likely will be a Fed's witness for the indicted as well as the unindicted at this point.

I don’t know what he’s paying in legal fees but I’m assuming unless ur filthy rich u gotta be thinking I can’t afford to keep paying these attorney costs or u just run out of money and just want to put the litigation behind you and move on with your life.. gotta be hard on their families too..

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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2022, 10:09:36 AM »
You can't bring a duck to a cock fight. Well, you can, just don't bet the duck.
 I can't see a law office going into court for a Federal trial and not spending 100K on preparing a defense. So, a couple hundred Gs or better to fight a battle with a less than 5% chance of winning is foolish. That is unless, the people he is protecting are funding his defense.
 So, almost everyone indicted will come to the conclusion sooner or later, you can't beat the Feds if they are committed to burring you.
 The smart guys, make their deal early and get immunity going forward. Do their bid and move on.


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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2022, 10:42:16 AM »
You can't bring a duck to a cock fight. Well, you can, just don't bet the duck.
 I can't see a law office going into court for a Federal trial and not spending 100K on preparing a defense. So, a couple hundred Gs or better to fight a battle with a less than 5% chance of winning is foolish. That is unless, the people he is protecting are funding his defense.
 So, almost everyone indicted will come to the conclusion sooner or later, you can't beat the Feds if they are committed to burring you.
 The smart guys, make their deal early and get immunity going forward. Do their bid and move on.

It will be interesting to see if any of the deep pocketed owners get added to list and how far that will go.   

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« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2022, 12:23:17 PM »
They are truly the entity most profiting from these crimes. I agree. It would be interesting. It would surely change the dynamics of the whole business.
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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2022, 06:01:17 PM »
what will they do with burke?

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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2022, 06:21:24 PM »
Sounds like Dane will be rewarded and welcomed to race the Meadowlands.

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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2022, 04:59:53 PM »
Where are all the people who said they'd all walk. Now dropping like flies, Oakes was real cocky when this started, folded like a cheap suit. Finds out where he will be spending some time this week. Feds don't play games.

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« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2022, 09:24:52 AM »
most will be out of business...many cant compete without what has been taken from them

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« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2022, 09:28:21 AM »
burke?

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« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2022, 01:30:46 PM »
burke?

Do you honestly believe Burke is doping?

Awful spectacular feat if he is. He has horse's all over the place and I don't know how many people working for him to keep such a secret. His owners buy the best and he wins on numbers. jmo
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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2022, 01:55:12 PM »
It does sound far fetched. But, who's owners invested more than Baffert's people?
 Whenever you have large amounts of money and human beings in the mix, you will have corruption and cheating.

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« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2022, 04:49:05 PM »
Burke races to many in too many places to be doing anything now. Has anyone heard an employee talk about seeing anything. Somebody would have said something by now. I'm not saying they've been all hay and oats forever but ya gotta give them credit they race all over, 1000's of starts and not many positives. He gets one and he will find a scapegoat though. There is no way their jamming like Surick was.

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« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2022, 04:56:34 PM »
it costs a fortune to have a lawyer defend against these charges and many of the people indicted may not be able to afford to pay the piper


 

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