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Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2018, 06:02:47 PM »
How about this. 4 harness tracks racing a night. That's it. You could have Yonkers ( A track horses ) Hoosier, Scioto, Maybe even/or Pompano for your B/C class horses. Then either the D2 Meadowlands, Northfield, Cal Expo, for the broken down rats. The tracks racing, on that night, would see a giant burst in handle, plus larger fields. Fans/Bettors are happy, because of the full fields, and larger pools. Management would be happy because they would, in theory, be making in handle one night, what they might make in a week. You can rotate the tracks, so that everyone gets a slice. Or, they can keep doing what they are, and die a certain death, once decoupling happens.

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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2018, 06:17:15 PM »
If you reduced the live product to 4 tracks a night, what effect do think that would have on the industry 5 years out?
 One of the unintended consequences of simulcasting is it gave track owners a reason to scale back on the services and conveniences afforded to the live customer. Soon, the live attendance was down to a few old timers who don't spend a dime.
 Granted, this was the future of racing, more content on line but, it hastened the decline. 
 New customers start with the live product. The live experience cultivates long term patrons. So, if you reduce the live experience by 80%, you are cutting the throat of the game.

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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2018, 07:04:15 PM »
 What will the industry look like in 5 years, if they continue the status quo? The throat has already been cut by ALL parties ( management, trainers/drivers, state regulatory agencies ). The only thing left is contraction. I agree with you that new customers start with live product. If you notice, most tracks without slots are racing few nights per week. Cal-Expo and the D2 Meadowlands are racing 2 nights a week. Decoupling IS the future. It is just a matter of time. You are just guaranteeing the death of the sport, if you continue what is going on.

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Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2018, 08:02:03 AM »
feel it's necessary to announce the handle every time they hit 3 million. This is such a bush league thing to do. Without slots, the racing will always stink!

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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2018, 08:08:14 AM »
There is no doubt the current business plan is and will continue to be a failure. What needs to be fixed before you can fix anything at all is, the relationship with the home state. The industry needs to be a generator of taxes and income to gain the political backing it needs.
 This not going to happen as a source of gaming taxes or corporate taxes. So, it needs a new lead and I see that lead as an agricultural entity. Redirecting the VLT monies to a greater share to a breeding program will stimulate more economic growth and local spending as well as tax generation than overnight racing.
 If we doubled the current 18 million in the NYSS program to 36 million, it would cut overnights by about 10%. All very doable.
 Expanding the SS program for older horses is now affordable and potentially profitable for an owner.
 Continuing to give NYS taxpayer funded money to overnight purses that are taken out of the state and country is completely foolish short sighted.
 Having a superior state breeding and racing program will generate new owners and fans, as they can follow the careers of their favorite horse.
 There is over around 100 million dollars of VLT money given to harness racing every year, in NY. It can be better invested.
 If you really want to grow your lobbying power, include Polo and other equine disciplines. There is plenty of money to share.
 There is plenty of money, it is just not invested with forethought. Investing in a state Agricultural program can also invest in the County Fairgrounds. These places are a centerpiece of the small communities and have not seen a coat of paint in 30 years. 
 A solid NYS breeding and racing program has a future if invested properly.
   

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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2018, 08:08:50 AM »
You think they should keep it a secret?

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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2018, 08:11:33 AM »
its the best promo they have

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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2018, 08:16:13 AM »
 TO THE JEWS IN THIS INDUSTRY, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND PEOPLE TELLING THEM HOW GREAT THEY ARE.

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Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2018, 08:18:11 AM »

  INVEST.... NOW THERE IS A WORD NOT IN HARNESS RACINGS DICTIONARY

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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2018, 08:34:55 AM »
Expand the breeding program. Now there's a thought  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2.

2 and 3 year olds get their brains blown out, and then don't race after that, imagine that. The better ones go to the breeding shed to produce what ? More garbage that needs the GAS to perform.

2 things need to happen before anything changes.

A. The OLD GUARD needs to go  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

B. Severe penalties and I mean severe. Can't drive or train one sitting in a jail cell  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

C. Things will never change. So don't worry about A and B  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2018, 08:59:17 AM »
There is no doubt the current business plan is and will continue to be a failure. What needs to be fixed before you can fix anything at all is, the relationship with the home state. The industry needs to be a generator of taxes and income to gain the political backing it needs.
 This not going to happen as a source of gaming taxes or corporate taxes. So, it needs a new lead and I see that lead as an agricultural entity. Redirecting the VLT monies to a greater share to a breeding program will stimulate more economic growth and local spending as well as tax generation than overnight racing.
 If we doubled the current 18 million in the NYSS program to 36 million, it would cut overnights by about 10%. All very doable.
 Expanding the SS program for older horses is now affordable and potentially profitable for an owner.
 Continuing to give NYS taxpayer funded money to overnight purses that are taken out of the state and country is completely foolish short sighted.
 Having a superior state breeding and racing program will generate new owners and fans, as they can follow the careers of their favorite horse.
 There is over around 100 million dollars of VLT money given to harness racing every year, in NY. It can be better invested.
 If you really want to grow your lobbying power, include Polo and other equine disciplines. There is plenty of money to share.
 There is plenty of money, it is just not invested with forethought. Investing in a state Agricultural program can also invest in the County Fairgrounds. These places are a centerpiece of the small communities and have not seen a coat of paint in 30 years. 
 A solid NYS breeding and racing program has a future if invested properly.
   

Excellent post and solid sire stakes programs have always been a plus for the Industry.

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« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2018, 09:07:41 AM »
Expand the breeding program. Now there's a thought  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2.

2 and 3 year olds get their brains blown out, and then don't race after that, imagine that. The better ones go to the breeding shed to produce what ? More garbage that needs the GAS to perform.

2 things need to happen before anything changes.

A. The OLD GUARD needs to go  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

B. Severe penalties and I mean severe. Can't drive or train one sitting in a jail cell  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

C. Things will never change. So don't worry about A and B  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Another BS post from the resident vitriol troll.

1) Many top 2-3yo go on to race.
2) You need solid sire stakes/grand circuit races to enhance investment and continue improving the breed-todays horses are superior to those of the past.
3) A+B -agreed in ANY business-if the ones in charge are not doing theior job-they need to go.
4) B? Severe penalties?--nice dream-but trainers like Burke will continue to avoid facing consequences-while little guys get screwed.
Need an independent central authority that institutes penalties-and EVERYONE gets the benefit of the SAME legal representation.

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Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2018, 10:00:16 AM »
TO THE JEWS IN THIS INDUSTRY, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND PEOPLE TELLING THEM HOW GREAT THEY ARE.






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Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2018, 12:04:40 PM »
 :P

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« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2018, 12:27:34 PM »
Great news. When are purses going up so we can see all that good racing that Goooofffrrrallll Inc has promised instead of FS performing at FN  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

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