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Title: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 07, 2018, 08:10:05 AM
 BARELY SQUEEZED ABOVE THE 2 MIL THRESHOLD LAST NIGHT.
   THE RACE TRACK OLIGARCH CAN NOT BE HAPPY, PLANNING ON RELEASING SEVERAL  DIPLOMATS AND REPLACING WITH PERSONAL FRIENDS. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS SUDDEN FALL IN HANDLE?   TRUMP? STOCK MARKET? SCHUMER?  ROSEANN?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: LUCPARK on April 07, 2018, 08:28:58 AM
too many tracks opening up now

..

he has to get bigger purses somehow to attract better horses and drivers

championship meet starts soon

,,bigm should improve we hope

Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: mtnskipper on April 07, 2018, 08:43:51 AM
too many dover shippers wandering in there. tough to decipher. horrific driver colony a big turnoff for most who have a clue.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Uncle Harry on April 07, 2018, 10:02:45 AM
too many tracks opening up now

..

he has to get bigger purses somehow to attract better horses and drivers

championship meet starts soon

,,bigm should improve we hope



SAME NUMBER OF TRACKS WERE OPEN LAST YEAR AT THE SAME TIME.  THAT OLIGARCH FELLOW SHOULD DIP INTO HIS OWN POCKETS AND ADD 20 MILLION TO THE PURSE POOL JUST LIKE HE PROMISED WHEN HE BOUGHT THE JOINT.  THATS WHAT WARKENTON AND DILEO TOLD ME. THEY SAY JEFF LIED TO ALL OF THEM. HE PROMISED THEM ALL RAISES AND NOW WANTS THEM TO TAKE A TEN PERCENT CUT.  HE EVEN TOOK AWAY EMPLOYEES DISCOUNTS TO EAT AT THE TRACK SAYING THEY WERE ABUSING THE PRIVILEDGE.   DAVE "NO SO" LITTLE  HAD 10 PLATES AT EVERY BUFFET, I KID YOU NOT

I MISS GOVERNOR CHRISTIE
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Equus Caballus on April 07, 2018, 10:05:41 AM
too many dover shippers wandering in there. tough to decipher. horrific driver colony a big turnoff for most who have a clue.

Don’t give the Dover horses too much credit coming to the mile track

Overrated in many occasions
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: MR.DALRAE on April 07, 2018, 10:19:06 AM
Only 10 races last night for the first time
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: mtnskipper on April 07, 2018, 10:24:00 AM
Only 10 races last night for the first time
  and that's with dover closed. unless gural continues to pump his own money into this place (not sure if he even does that) place is doomed to extinction. he wants slots to save him. good luck with that fantasy in an oversaturated market.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 07, 2018, 10:53:44 AM
All the cash Goooooffffrrrraaa aallllll Inc made off the NCAA tournament on weekends, where did that money go. Did he give a little back to help out the NCAA. No fu way. Now going to get a dose of the Circus O'Lay at the Pig M. That should really bring new customers in. Some of us really appreciated the glory days of the REAL BIG M, let us have some good memories of the place. Just get out, shut the FU up, lick your wounds (and your ass) and take it as a lesson learned  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on April 07, 2018, 11:37:28 AM
What is with you people here? Tonight's handle will TOP last year's most likely for the same day. Last night had only 10 races with horse shortages we all know about being an issue.  The idea that a closed Meadowlands HELPS harness racing is ludicrous!!  The smaller tracks depend on the weekend Meadowlands simulcast to drive their nightly simulcast betting on the weekends.  I don't see any reason for the comments here about hoping harness tracks close to give joy to those who post such utter stupidity! If you really want the Meadowlands to close, YOU should not be involved in harness racing, not the other way!  Go bet lottery tickets instead of your $2.00 per race at the races!  The comments here by the same cast of characters are pathetic!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Calhoun on April 07, 2018, 11:56:48 AM
What is with you people here? Tonight's handle will TOP last year's most likely for the same day. Last night had only 10 races with horse shortages we all know about being an issue.  The idea that a closed Meadowlands HELPS harness racing is ludicrous!!  The smaller tracks depend on the weekend Meadowlands simulcast to drive their nightly simulcast betting on the weekends.  I don't see any reason for the comments here about hoping harness tracks close to give joy to those who post such utter stupidity! If you really want the Meadowlands to close, YOU should not be involved in harness racing, not the other way!  Go bet lottery tickets instead of your $2.00 per race at the races!  The comments here by the same cast of characters are pathetic!
I'm not so sure.  I think those M1 wagering dollars would find their way into other pools.  In fact, it appears like it is happening now.

YTD 2018 vs 2017:

Total Wagering is down 1/2 of 1%

Total Race Days/Races is down 5%

Total Purses are down about 8%

Per Race Wagering is up just shy of 13%

Those are directionally positive numbers for bettors.

JMVHMFO


Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: John Esposito on April 07, 2018, 12:08:51 PM
LAST YEAR 11 RACES ON FRIDAY, THIS YEAR 10
LAST YEAR 11 RACES ON SATURDAY  THIS YEAR 12

FIGURE OUT AVG PER RACE TO SEE WHICH WAS BETTER... FRIDAY NIGHT WAS BETTER LAST YEAR
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: mtnskipper on April 07, 2018, 12:39:40 PM
What is with you people here? Tonight's handle will TOP last year's most likely for the same day. Last night had only 10 races with horse shortages we all know about being an issue.  The idea that a closed Meadowlands HELPS harness racing is ludicrous!!  The smaller tracks depend on the weekend Meadowlands simulcast to drive their nightly simulcast betting on the weekends.  I don't see any reason for the comments here about hoping harness tracks close to give joy to those who post such utter stupidity! If you really want the Meadowlands to close, YOU should not be involved in harness racing, not the other way!  Go bet lottery tickets instead of your $2.00 per race at the races!  The comments here by the same cast of characters are pathetic!
the smaller tracks need their horses, owners, drivers and trainers back even though it is too late since the former patrons all just about all gone. maybe a few of the smaller ones can be saved if that albatross finally shuts down. the big M is responsible for ruining harness racing in this country 42 years ago. a novel idea at the time and it worked for about 20 years but now being a shadow of what it once was it is time to pull the plug on the place.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: dinkadoo on April 07, 2018, 01:56:07 PM
I'm not so sure.  I think those M1 wagering dollars would find their way into other pools.  In fact, it appears like it is happening now.

YTD 2018 vs 2017:

Total Wagering is down 1/2 of 1%

Total Race Days/Races is down 5%

Total Purses are down about 8%

Per Race Wagering is up just shy of 13%

Those are directionally positive numbers for bettors.

JMVHMFO



good for bettors bad for horsemen. Goes to show the value gamblers place on a mile track... Quality means little. Purses mean little.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: slimshady on April 07, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
Huff  ...   "Did he give a little back to the NCAA".   That's hilarious.   You make it sound like the NCAA needs money.  They make zillions off of TV revenue, while paying the stars nothing, over and above their scholarships.  And many of those scholarships are useless, because no one, including the NCAA cares if an athlete actually gets an education.   If you want me to despise Gural, you'd better come up with a better reason than that one !!!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 07, 2018, 06:35:31 PM
Huff  ...   "Did he give a little back to the NCAA".   That's hilarious.   You make it sound like the NCAA needs money.  They make zillions off of TV revenue, while paying the stars nothing, over and above their scholarships.  And many of those scholarships are useless, because no one, including the NCAA cares if an athlete actually gets an education.   If you want me to despise Gural, you'd better come up with a better reason than that one !!!

Give me a break here. What did Goooooffffrrrraaa llllll INC do with the signal on the Pig M. Made it a monthly pay per view. How about when he was bitching about signal costs going in  and out. Goooofffrrrraaaal llll INC. wanted more of a simulcast cut for his signal. GTFOH 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: slimshady on April 07, 2018, 07:40:00 PM
Hush  ...    Not sure what to give you a break from.   When I respond to your point, you simply change your point.  It was about him not paying the NCAA and now its about turning the signal into a pay per view.  That's called capitalism.  if you don't support it, don't support his pay per view.  If you don't support capitalism, well, you may be living in the wrong country.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 07, 2018, 08:54:08 PM
Hush  ...    Not sure what to give you a break from.   When I respond to your point, you simply change your point.  It was about him not paying the NCAA and now its about turning the signal into a pay per view.  That's called capitalism.  if you don't support it, don't support his pay per view.  If you don't support capitalism, well, you may be living in the wrong country.

Goooooffrrraallll l wants paid at any cost for his signal going out. And you don't think the NCAA helped out Gooooffffrrrrraaa aalllll Inc during weekend games.

Its not called CAPITALISM, its called NOT BEING A MOOCH, A LEECH. Goooooffffrrrraaa allllllll Inc ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Capitalism, that's  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: slimshady on April 07, 2018, 09:08:03 PM
Capitalism  ...   Industry owned by private persons for profit.  Seems to fit the circumstances pretty well.  I think your hatred for Gural clouds your thinking and decision making and makes you sound a little ignorant at times.  But that's just my opinion. 
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 07, 2018, 09:16:34 PM
Capitalism  ...   Industry owned by private persons for profit.  Seems to fit the circumstances pretty well.  I think your hatred for Gural clouds your thinking and decision making and makes you sound a little ignorant at times.  But that's just my opinion. 


Please inform me of WHEN GOOOOOFFFRRRAALLL LLLL INC bought the New and IMPROVED Pig M  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on April 07, 2018, 11:24:38 PM
You are psychologically impaired Hush.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on April 07, 2018, 11:32:11 PM
To all of the psychologically negative and demented haters on this website, tonight's handle will probably TOP last year's by $400,000-$500,000. tmbz1
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on April 08, 2018, 12:27:39 AM
Total Handle was $3,036,706.00, which is $600,000 more than last year on the same night!  No NCAA excuses either for the negative nitwits here. 
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on April 08, 2018, 12:47:58 AM
too many tracks opening up now

..

he has to get bigger purses somehow to attract better horses and drivers

championship meet starts soon

,,bigm should improve we hope


$3,036,706.00 vs. Yonkers' $875,891.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: The Exporter on April 08, 2018, 04:07:45 AM
Total handle for all 15 harness tracks racing last night, just under 6 million. 14 tracks combined did less than The Big M alone.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Germy dDay on April 08, 2018, 07:10:30 AM
 WHAT IS REALLY SAD IS WHEN YOU CLICK ON AN ARTICLE TO SEE HOW THE RACING TURNED OUT, AND ALL YOU HEAR OUT OF THE MEDIA DEPARTMENT IS HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MADE. WHY DONT YOU PUT PINKS TOTAL SALES IN THE ARTICLE AS WELL, MONEY MADE FROM DRINKS AND SALES OF HOT DOGS.   THERE SHOULD BE 3 THINGS LISTED IN THE MEADOWLANDS HANDLE REPORT, ON TRACK, IMPORT AND CARTEL WAGERING.  HOW DO THE HORSEMEN KNOW THEY ARE GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR PURSE ACCOUNTS, OR DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT? PURSES ARE WHAT THEY ARE AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, TUFF SHIT.   

IT IS SADLY OBVIOUS, THAT AT TODAYS MEADOWLANDS, NOT MY DADDY'S MEADOWLANDS, HOW MUCH $$ HE MAKES IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE RACING ITSELF
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Alex on April 08, 2018, 08:24:40 AM
 HOW MUCH MONEY, HE MAKES, HAS ALWAYS BEEN MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM, THAN THE PRODUCT HE PUTS ON THE TRACK.  WISH HE WOULD JUST CLOSE DOWN SO WE DONT HAVE TO READ OR LISTEN TO HIM COMPLAIN.  THE WHOLE INDUSTRY WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT HIM
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Equus Caballus on April 08, 2018, 08:52:29 AM
Total handle for all 15 harness tracks racing last night, just under 6 million. 14 tracks combined did less than The Big M alone.

Including woodbine?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: slimshady on April 08, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Alex  ....   How would tracks closing help our industry in any way?  What do you envision for the industry:   farmers meeting at each others home tracks every second Sunday, racing their best against best, $500 to the winner.  What the fuck are you thinking?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: silent one on April 08, 2018, 02:22:04 PM
Alex  ....   How would tracks closing help our industry in any way?  What do you envision for the industry:   farmers meeting at each others home tracks every second Sunday, racing their best against best, $500 to the winner.  What the fuck are you thinking?

 Less tracks racing, makes for fuller fields at the tracks that are. Fuller fields, usually, will make for better handle, better prices. I find it hysterical, that the lessor, Jeff Gural whines about not having enough entries. Yet, he has Tioga, Vermin downs, AND the D2 Meadowlands racing at the same time. On the other hand, the industry could keep doing the things the way they are. Seems to be a great business model.

    Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: slimshady on April 08, 2018, 04:12:09 PM
You may be right  ....   less tracks, fuller fields at remaining tracks.   Not sure how that would work in Ontario Canada.  Remove Elmira  ....   those horses will now make for fuller fields at Mohawk.  I doubt it.   Many of those horses could never compete at Mohawk.   And driving 2 hours to compete in London for an Elmira purse, will be pretty costly if you don't come 1st, 2nd or 3rd.  I think the sucsessful model requires inexpensive, but excellent entertainment for families.   The bettors will find their fix online.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: silent one on April 08, 2018, 06:02:47 PM
How about this. 4 harness tracks racing a night. That's it. You could have Yonkers ( A track horses ) Hoosier, Scioto, Maybe even/or Pompano for your B/C class horses. Then either the D2 Meadowlands, Northfield, Cal Expo, for the broken down rats. The tracks racing, on that night, would see a giant burst in handle, plus larger fields. Fans/Bettors are happy, because of the full fields, and larger pools. Management would be happy because they would, in theory, be making in handle one night, what they might make in a week. You can rotate the tracks, so that everyone gets a slice. Or, they can keep doing what they are, and die a certain death, once decoupling happens.

     Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: The Exporter on April 08, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
If you reduced the live product to 4 tracks a night, what effect do think that would have on the industry 5 years out?
 One of the unintended consequences of simulcasting is it gave track owners a reason to scale back on the services and conveniences afforded to the live customer. Soon, the live attendance was down to a few old timers who don't spend a dime.
 Granted, this was the future of racing, more content on line but, it hastened the decline. 
 New customers start with the live product. The live experience cultivates long term patrons. So, if you reduce the live experience by 80%, you are cutting the throat of the game.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: silent one on April 08, 2018, 07:04:15 PM
 What will the industry look like in 5 years, if they continue the status quo? The throat has already been cut by ALL parties ( management, trainers/drivers, state regulatory agencies ). The only thing left is contraction. I agree with you that new customers start with live product. If you notice, most tracks without slots are racing few nights per week. Cal-Expo and the D2 Meadowlands are racing 2 nights a week. Decoupling IS the future. It is just a matter of time. You are just guaranteeing the death of the sport, if you continue what is going on.

    Sincerely, Silent One
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Trottin Man on April 09, 2018, 08:02:03 AM
feel it's necessary to announce the handle every time they hit 3 million. This is such a bush league thing to do. Without slots, the racing will always stink!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: The Exporter on April 09, 2018, 08:08:14 AM
There is no doubt the current business plan is and will continue to be a failure. What needs to be fixed before you can fix anything at all is, the relationship with the home state. The industry needs to be a generator of taxes and income to gain the political backing it needs.
 This not going to happen as a source of gaming taxes or corporate taxes. So, it needs a new lead and I see that lead as an agricultural entity. Redirecting the VLT monies to a greater share to a breeding program will stimulate more economic growth and local spending as well as tax generation than overnight racing.
 If we doubled the current 18 million in the NYSS program to 36 million, it would cut overnights by about 10%. All very doable.
 Expanding the SS program for older horses is now affordable and potentially profitable for an owner.
 Continuing to give NYS taxpayer funded money to overnight purses that are taken out of the state and country is completely foolish short sighted.
 Having a superior state breeding and racing program will generate new owners and fans, as they can follow the careers of their favorite horse.
 There is over around 100 million dollars of VLT money given to harness racing every year, in NY. It can be better invested.
 If you really want to grow your lobbying power, include Polo and other equine disciplines. There is plenty of money to share.
 There is plenty of money, it is just not invested with forethought. Investing in a state Agricultural program can also invest in the County Fairgrounds. These places are a centerpiece of the small communities and have not seen a coat of paint in 30 years. 
 A solid NYS breeding and racing program has a future if invested properly.
   
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: The Exporter on April 09, 2018, 08:08:50 AM
You think they should keep it a secret?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 09, 2018, 08:11:33 AM
its the best promo they have
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 09, 2018, 08:16:13 AM
 TO THE JEWS IN THIS INDUSTRY, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND PEOPLE TELLING THEM HOW GREAT THEY ARE.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 09, 2018, 08:18:11 AM

  INVEST.... NOW THERE IS A WORD NOT IN HARNESS RACINGS DICTIONARY
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 09, 2018, 08:34:55 AM
Expand the breeding program. Now there's a thought  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2.

2 and 3 year olds get their brains blown out, and then don't race after that, imagine that. The better ones go to the breeding shed to produce what ? More garbage that needs the GAS to perform.

2 things need to happen before anything changes.

A. The OLD GUARD needs to go  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

B. Severe penalties and I mean severe. Can't drive or train one sitting in a jail cell  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

C. Things will never change. So don't worry about A and B  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: bond on April 09, 2018, 08:59:17 AM
There is no doubt the current business plan is and will continue to be a failure. What needs to be fixed before you can fix anything at all is, the relationship with the home state. The industry needs to be a generator of taxes and income to gain the political backing it needs.
 This not going to happen as a source of gaming taxes or corporate taxes. So, it needs a new lead and I see that lead as an agricultural entity. Redirecting the VLT monies to a greater share to a breeding program will stimulate more economic growth and local spending as well as tax generation than overnight racing.
 If we doubled the current 18 million in the NYSS program to 36 million, it would cut overnights by about 10%. All very doable.
 Expanding the SS program for older horses is now affordable and potentially profitable for an owner.
 Continuing to give NYS taxpayer funded money to overnight purses that are taken out of the state and country is completely foolish short sighted.
 Having a superior state breeding and racing program will generate new owners and fans, as they can follow the careers of their favorite horse.
 There is over around 100 million dollars of VLT money given to harness racing every year, in NY. It can be better invested.
 If you really want to grow your lobbying power, include Polo and other equine disciplines. There is plenty of money to share.
 There is plenty of money, it is just not invested with forethought. Investing in a state Agricultural program can also invest in the County Fairgrounds. These places are a centerpiece of the small communities and have not seen a coat of paint in 30 years. 
 A solid NYS breeding and racing program has a future if invested properly.
   

Excellent post and solid sire stakes programs have always been a plus for the Industry.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: bond on April 09, 2018, 09:07:41 AM
Expand the breeding program. Now there's a thought  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2.

2 and 3 year olds get their brains blown out, and then don't race after that, imagine that. The better ones go to the breeding shed to produce what ? More garbage that needs the GAS to perform.

2 things need to happen before anything changes.

A. The OLD GUARD needs to go  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

B. Severe penalties and I mean severe. Can't drive or train one sitting in a jail cell  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

C. Things will never change. So don't worry about A and B  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Another BS post from the resident vitriol troll.

1) Many top 2-3yo go on to race.
2) You need solid sire stakes/grand circuit races to enhance investment and continue improving the breed-todays horses are superior to those of the past.
3) A+B -agreed in ANY business-if the ones in charge are not doing theior job-they need to go.
4) B? Severe penalties?--nice dream-but trainers like Burke will continue to avoid facing consequences-while little guys get screwed.
Need an independent central authority that institutes penalties-and EVERYONE gets the benefit of the SAME legal representation.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Bernie Madoff on April 09, 2018, 10:00:16 AM
TO THE JEWS IN THIS INDUSTRY, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND PEOPLE TELLING THEM HOW GREAT THEY ARE.






Not just in this industry.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: SalaciousCrumb. on April 09, 2018, 12:04:40 PM
 :P
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 09, 2018, 12:27:34 PM
Great news. When are purses going up so we can see all that good racing that Goooofffrrrallll Inc has promised instead of FS performing at FN  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 21, 2018, 05:56:57 AM
SAME DATE HANDLE COMPARISON

2017   2,502,647
2018   2,078,567
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 22, 2018, 06:36:56 AM
 ONLY DOWN 300K FROM SAME DAY LAST YEAR




2017   $2,326,484
2018   $2,048,732
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 28, 2018, 02:45:58 AM

2018
Total Handle
$2,185,204.

2017
Total Handle
$2,539,970

DO WE SEE THE START OF A TREND?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Equus Caballus on April 28, 2018, 09:09:24 AM
It’s taken a bad drop since other tracks opened
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 28, 2018, 10:31:17 AM
2018
Total Handle
$2,185,204.

2017
Total Handle
$2,539,970

DO WE SEE THE START OF A TREND?

This is very discouraging. All the hard work, time, effort and knowledge that Gooooffffrrrraaaa lllll Inc has put into Pinkys Downs, aka Freehole Horth, aka Cornhole North, aka The Pig M, this has so be a major set back to his futile efforts. How many snake oil salesmen has he had as GM's. Hard to guess what the next move is, but it will be another disaster in the making.  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on April 29, 2018, 08:06:40 AM
APRIL 28   2018
Total Handle
$2,309,008.00



APRIL 29  2017
Total Handle
$2,767,494

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Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on April 29, 2018, 10:01:49 AM
So glad we have someone keeping close tabs on this.  tmbz1

 73cv.2

Gives some insight as to when the next Goooofffrrraaalll ll INC crying session starts. Pretty soon Gooooofffrrrraaal llll INC will start the "people of Knew Joerrrsssseyyy don't respect me, the fine people of Knew Joooeerrrsseeey are fucking me, don't the fine people of Knew Jooooeeerrrsseeyy y know how important "I" am to myself" chant  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 12, 2018, 03:52:24 AM
 MAY 12 2017   $2,450,323   10R
 MAY 11 2018   $1,622,800     9R


MAYBE FLY BY NITE SOLLY CAN DO THE MATH AND FIGGER THE DROP IN HANDLE
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 12, 2018, 06:33:01 AM
MAY 12 2017   $2,450,323   10R
 MAY 11 2018   $1,622,800     9R


MAYBE FLY BY NITE SOLLY CAN DO THE MATH AND FIGGER THE DROP IN HANDLE

Total Handle: $128,783 Attendance: 618

and then throw in the Vermin handle, that's a COMBINED TOTAL of $1,751,583 for 18 Goooofffrrraallll RACES  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Maybe Jen "BANG"iorno can use some of her influential friends to help out (https://img.gta5-mods.com/q85-w800/images/better-hooker/24efc9-20180129152745_4.jpg)
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: joemomma on May 12, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Terrible product
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: NJ The best on May 12, 2018, 09:23:17 AM
Curious what the handle will be tonight. Shocking only 10 races
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 12, 2018, 10:06:45 AM
This is very discouraging. All the hard work, time, effort and knowledge that Gooooffffrrrraaaa lllll Inc has put into Pinkys Downs, aka Freehole Horth, aka Cornhole North, aka The Pig M, this has so be a major set back to his futile efforts. How many snake oil salesmen has he had as GM's. Hard to guess what the next move is, but it will be another disaster in the making.  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

And don't forget the knew name for the crack (as in "blow" or "toot") management team that Jewffrey has in place:

(http://davidkelly.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/SnakeOil.jpg)
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Calhoun on May 12, 2018, 10:12:44 AM
Hush,
When you are right, you are right.

Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 12, 2018, 11:17:11 AM
Why does Yonkers feel compelled to announce a million dollar handle??????? They should have been doing that and more, anyway. Even send it to the USTA.

WITH SLOTS,  the racing at Yonkers STINKS.

Careful now. Jasin*** Maine Hall of Fame drives there  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: NJ HORSEMAN on May 12, 2018, 01:09:21 PM
 THE JEW HONESTLY THINKS HE SHOULD BE THE ONLY SIGNAL ALLOWED ON A SATURDAY FOR THE GOOD OF THE SPORT, THAT HE SAVED.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 13, 2018, 06:40:07 AM
Curious what the handle will be tonight. Shocking only 10 races

HANDLE CONTINUES ITS RACE TO THE BOTTOM

$1,824,070.00
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 13, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
HANDLE CONTINUES ITS RACE TO THE BOTTOM

$1,824,070.00

You didn't include the Vermin Handle, shame, shame, shame on you. Please give Jeeefffiiiee his due credit Total Handle: $62,390 Attendance: 658

Which brings the Vermin / Freehold North Daily Double handle for May 12th to a STAGGERING 1,886,460.00

Another day that will go down in INFAMY  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

(http://davidkelly.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/SnakeOil.jpg)
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Uncle Harry on May 13, 2018, 09:46:59 AM
 YOU BOTH FORGOT TO COMPLETE THE  TRIFECTA AND ADD TIOGA TO THE TOTALS

Total Handle: $73,916 Attendance: 364  13 RACES
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 13, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
You didn't include the Vermin Handle, shame, shame, shame on you. Please give Jeeefffiiiee his due credit Total Handle: $62,390 Attendance: 658

Which brings the Vermin / Freehold North Daily Double handle for May 12th to a STAGGERING 1,886,460.00

Another day that will go down in INFAMY  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

(http://davidkelly.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/SnakeOil.jpg)

Total Handle: $73,916 Attendance: 364  13 RACES for Tifixta

Brings it to a whopping Grand Total of 1,960,376.00 for 33 races owned, manipulated, leased and run into the ground by none other than the SAVOIR himself

Mr (http://www.circusesandsideshows.com/images/barnumandbaileytop.jpg) of harness racing (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSqnR9VBtvGfx5Z9BugL1RNsds65NsdrARoHpKxaX96yMfqPKF9)

Just imagine if Gooooffffrrraaall lll Inc had to run a real business  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: NJ HORSEMAN on May 13, 2018, 10:22:41 AM
THE MODERN HARNESS RACING VERSION OF B&B

(https://i.imgur.com/kw161ZD.jpg)
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 19, 2018, 12:56:47 AM
2018   $2,030,226
2017   $2,475,069


Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: John Esposito on May 19, 2018, 01:51:51 PM
 All-source wagering was down 18 percent over the corresponding card from last year. The primary culprits being one five-horse field and another that was scratched down to four.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 20, 2018, 04:56:57 AM
 2018  $2,172,322
 2017  $2,880.979   



The total wager of $2,172,322 represented a 25 percent decrease from the corresponding card from a year ago

IT LOOKS AS IF JEFF IS TRYING TO LOSE HANDLE ON PURPOSE.
      THESE DAYS, TO GET A GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY, YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU ARE A FAILURE, LOOKS THE  MEDS IS IN RACE FOR THE BOTTOM MODE
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Inside The Pylons on May 20, 2018, 08:12:12 AM
 Anyone else notice that his Sat and Sun morning recap press releases now cast blame for the drop in handle? He lays the blame squarely at the feet of horsemen and he addresses them...

Someone might have gotten the wrong impression that I
was looking to get back my $100 million investment before
purses get a cut.That was certainly not the case,?Gural said.
However, the horsemen should understand that the only
reason the Meadowlands has been racing the last couple of
years is because I have been personally subsidizing it. I hope
they dont think I was put on this earth to provide a place for
them to race that loses millions of dollars every year.
 I would like to get back the $5 million that I overpaid the
purse account in order to maintain the stakes program. I
would also like to get the $10 million I have lost over the
last few years back and I am working tirelessly to try to
convince the state to once again give us the $30 million
purse subsidy that we were receiving for thoroughbreds,
standardbreds and breeders before Governor Christie
decided to pull the plug.

This guy cracks me up, I notice that the amount he loses is going up, now that he has found a cash cow (sports betting) to cover his losses.

He should be forced to open his books to keep/receive  his sports betting license.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 25, 2018, 01:52:18 PM
 THE HANDLE FROM A YEAR AGO...

 $2,223,336
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 26, 2018, 02:25:35 AM
THE HANDLE FROM A YEAR AGO...

 $2,223,336

COMPARE TO 2018


Total Handle


$1,633,824    JUST SHORT, OF A $600,000 DROP IN A YEAR

I SMELL A PURSE CUT COMING
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 26, 2018, 06:11:34 AM
I smell a "racetrack" closing.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 26, 2018, 07:50:37 AM
COMPARE TO 2018


Total Handle


$1,633,824    JUST SHORT, OF A $600,000 DROP IN A YEAR

I SMELL A PURSE CUT COMING

Plus Vermin Total Handle: $96,346 Attendance: 534

Plus Tioga Total Handle: $51,520 Attendance: 564

Total Total for all of Heeb Downs for 29 Pig Races regardless of location is $1,781,690.00 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

I smell ANOTHER (https://i.pinimg.com/236x/2c/42/3c/2c423c0abe1e5e3c372de58107f19191--the-fifties-towels.jpg) coming to Pinky Downs  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: NJ The best on May 26, 2018, 09:58:31 AM
If it hits a 100k a race maybe a cut
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on May 26, 2018, 01:02:35 PM
I smell a "racetrack" closing.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

yo, yo, Bern,

What happened to doing it for "the love of the game?"  Saviors typically operate that way. 

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/history-hitler-suicide-defeat-defeated-losers-ate0059_low.jpg)

Until next time, laddies.......... HEIL HITLER!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on May 27, 2018, 12:37:06 AM
All-source wagering on the 10-race program totaled $1,949,217.
 Who was that idiot who said when the place handled less than 2 mill for a 10 race card it was time to worry.   

  Instead of hiring fat fucks and Kentucky hillbillies, they need to bring back the guys who can make betting the Meadowlands great again.

What's Jeff Gurals next idea to pack them in going to be?.... 
  A Rock Paper, Scissors contest?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on May 27, 2018, 06:49:43 AM
 2017 HANDLE ON SAME DAY

 $2,310,036
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on May 27, 2018, 08:05:09 AM
2017 HANDLE ON SAME DAY

 $2,310,036

Pinky Downs 2018 $1,949,217.00  Attendance: Unknown at this time  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Plus Vermin $84,428 Attendance: 758

Plus Tioga Total Handle: $45,667 Attendance: 664

Total for all of Heeb Downs for 30 Pig Races is $2,079,312.00

I think the fine people of Knew Joeeerrssseeyyyy are awaiting sports wagering  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Yea, that's it  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 02, 2018, 02:08:32 AM

2017   $ 2,420,244

2018    $1,730,279

FRIDAY’S FREQUENT FAVORITES: Over the last three Friday programs, aided by a plethora of short fields, post-time choices have won 17 of 30 races (57 percent).


A LITTLE MORE: Due to a lackluster entry box, betting was down precipitously – 28.5 percent – from the comparable card last year. The corresponding program from a year ago saw 93 horses participate on the program, and the result was an average of 8.5 starters per race for 11 races, with a total wager of $2,420,244. Friday night, only 75 horses (a 19 percent drop from 2017) competed on the 10-race card, an average of 7.5 starters per race, which included two four-horse fields and one five-horse field in the NJSS events. The total bet was $1,730,280

___
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Inside The Pylons on June 02, 2018, 06:37:24 AM
 With yonkers not racing this weekend, this horse shortage thing is a bunch of bull.  There is not a horse shortage at the meadowlands, there is a purses for horses shortage at the meadowlands.  Routinely it says on the condition sheet, fields must have 7 entries to be carded.  I think the track owner is intentionally trying to make the track look like a failure so he can con the government into those subsidies.  Trying to coincide it with the advent of sports betting, He has to pay a tax to the state when accepting bets, so now he is looking to get a huge chunk of that returned via the way of a welfare check.  Horsemen are no longer getting calls or texts saying that horses are needed to fill races, the short fields are just a management ploy.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 03, 2018, 07:17:23 AM
DID THE CARTELS TAKE THE WEEKEND OFF?
HANDLE OFF OVER $750,000 DOLLARS

2018... $2,229,706

2017... $2,995,671

BOTH NITES HAD 12 RACES, THIS YEARS CARD HAD HALF A HORSE LESS PER RACE,

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/270/485/b1f.gif)
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Equus Caballus on June 03, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
They won’t get my money any more in the summer unless stakes races

Too many favorites
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on June 03, 2018, 10:33:18 AM
 The people who make the morning lines should do a better job, like the people that used to do it. 
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 03, 2018, 12:33:07 PM
There shouldn't be a morning line. Means nothing.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Calhoun on June 03, 2018, 12:49:03 PM
The people who make the morning lines should do a better job, like the people that used to do it. 
That's a very dolt-like comment.

Short bus worthy.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 03, 2018, 12:58:23 PM
 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on June 03, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
The people who make the morning lines should do a better job, like the people that used to do it. 


Gooooofffrrrraaaa allllll INC has his own MOURNING LINE (https://i.pinimg.com/236x/2c/42/3c/2c423c0abe1e5e3c372de58107f19191--the-fifties-towels.jpg)  11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 03, 2018, 06:32:42 PM
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 09, 2018, 05:33:18 AM
HANDLE CONTINUES TO PLUMMET

2018....$1,681,527
2017....$2,197,916

A DECREASE OF OVER 20%

HORSEMEN ARE BOYCOTTING THE BOX
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on June 09, 2018, 08:35:05 AM
HANDLE CONTINUES TO PLUMMET

2018....$1,681,527
2017....$2,197,916

A DECREASE OF OVER 20%

HORSEMEN ARE BOYCOTTING THE BOX

Gooooofffrrrraaaa lllllll INC to sue the NBA and NHL for short series in the finals. Goooooffffrrrraaa llllll sent letter to both commissioners and asked why they couldn't "FIX IT" to go 6 or 7 games. Cost him big money in the sports bars  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 10, 2018, 08:35:28 AM
 THE TREND CONTINUES

2018   Total Handle   $2,102,019

2017   Total Handle    $2,349,707
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on June 10, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
THE TREND CONTINUES

2018   Total Handle   $2,102,019

2017   Total Handle    $2,349,707


yo, yo, Off Ramp,

Thanx to your amazing investigatory work, the trend is clear.  Jewffrey is letting the Swamp turn into............a swamp.  But the question remains:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR1jN29Zg6Uey6gxXahHmRI_-Z906dVxKqoFZigV1GntAa9vMjk)

Until next time, sweeties......... .....HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 16, 2018, 05:52:05 AM
 BEGINNING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD

2018..… Total Handle...   $1,583,322

2017..... Total Handle      $1,744,602


JEWFRIE CANT WAIT TO REPLACE BUGGY BETTORS WITH SPORTS BETTORS, I BET HIS SPORTS BETTING FRANCHISE WILL BE OPEN MORE THAN 2 DAYS A WEEK
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Yonkers1 on June 16, 2018, 07:06:13 AM
BEGINNING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD

2018..… Total Handle...   $1,583,322

2017..... Total Handle      $1,744,602


JEWFRIE CANT WAIT TO REPLACE BUGGY BETTORS WITH SPORTS BETTORS, I BET HIS SPORTS BETTING FRANCHISE WILL BE OPEN MORE THAN 2 DAYS A WEEK

Why is it not open now when Monmouth is

Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 17, 2018, 06:21:58 AM
Why is it not open now when Monmouth is


IT IS CALLED PLANNING AHEAD, AND THAT COSTS MONEY.

A SHORT TIME AGO, THE M WAS BRAGGING ABOUT HOW MANY 3 MILLION DOLLAR HANDLE DAYS THEY HAD IN A ROW... NOW THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE A 2 MILLION DOLLAR HANDLE DAY

2017  $1,744,602

2018  $1,764,228

 THEY HAD A HUGE CROWD LAST NIGHT, TO SEE CAMELS RACE THE CAMELTONIAN. BUT THEY MUST HAVE LEFT THEIR WALLETS HOME, OR HERE IS A THOUGHT.... DID ONE OR MORE OF THE CARTEL BETTING CONGLOMERATE QUIT?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: stanetelman on June 17, 2018, 08:55:44 AM
Why is it not open now when Monmouth is


Monmouth planned ahead and built the sports book ahead of time.  Meadowlands is only just starting to build it,  might be ready by September.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on June 24, 2018, 05:14:45 AM
HANDLE AT THE m IS FALLING OFF THE CLIFF

2017... $2,229,350
2018....$1,878,057      A 15%  DECREASE IN PEOPLE CARING ABOUT JEFF GURAL
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on July 01, 2018, 06:24:28 AM
2017     TOTAL HANDLE     $2,427,822 12 RACES

2018      TOTAL HANDLE    $1,975,759  12 RACES

A HUGE HANDLE DROP FROM LAST YEAR

LOOKS AS IF THE MILLENIAL GENERATION SHOWED UP FOR THE FREE STUFF
BUT UNLIKE THEIR PARENTS, THEY DONT SUPPORT THE RACING PRODUCT

MAYBE JEFFS ALLERGE FARMS CAN GIVE EVERY MILLENIAL A FREE PONY
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: dinkadoo on July 01, 2018, 08:36:10 AM
16W, Yonkers did 491,000. What did the Poconos do on their "big"  night?
those tracks could care less what they handle...… Only there because the state law says they have to.

 
But the Big M kinda need the money
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 01, 2018, 08:45:40 AM
 I remember every Sunday morning after the Gural Regime took over, how they bragged about how huge their handle was, patting themselves on the back for all the great things they were doing. Now it is everyone else's fault for the falling handle, refusing to criticize themselves for putting on crappy racing cards.  So what if they lose a couple of Million a year, their track owner is a multi millionaire, he can afford it, many times over
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on July 08, 2018, 05:52:11 AM
PACE ELIMINATION NIGHT
12 RACES BOTH NIGHTS

2017  $2,689,966

2018  $2,513,366

LESS     $176,600

HANDLE IS ON THE DROP AND IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT FOR NOT HELPING JEFF SAVE NEW JERSEY HARNESS RACING. SHAME ON Y'ALL
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: eyeinthesky on July 08, 2018, 06:34:43 AM
WE should bring ex-Governor Christie back for a few days....and have him and his people CLOSE  Exit 16W  for good !

Instead of telling us how M1 did year over year, or week over week............. .............

why don't you tell us how much better the M1 handle was compared to Yonkers ??
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: harnesstimes on July 08, 2018, 08:23:20 AM
Big M handle continues to plummet at the home where only the chosen cheaters can compete.  Should be boycotting that dump
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: eyeinthesky on July 08, 2018, 10:11:09 AM
Big M handle continues to plummet at the home where only the chosen cheaters can compete.  Should be boycotting that dump

Nice statement Darren

I passed it on to Jason so he can show Jeff how you feel about M1

Does your attitude, expressed above....have any effect  on your on air comments about races at the New Meadowlands ??
People who are paid to talk about races should be able to find something good to say about racing.  Tell us about  all the trainers who race at Poconos........yo u claim to be very knowledgeable

Why don't you remind us about all the good things you accomplished while you were working there ? It would take you very long to do so
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on July 14, 2018, 12:44:56 AM
Total Handle tonight:   $2,790,769.00 tmbz1---------last year  $1,920,413   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o7LfnK9oMc
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Poker King on July 14, 2018, 05:47:36 AM
THE MEADOWLANDS IS RINGLING BROTHERS AND BARUNM BAILEYS CIRCUS NO ONE WANTS TO RACE THE SWAMP
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: BIG DOM on July 14, 2018, 08:38:02 AM
Meadowlands handles are head & shoulders above anywhere else in the U.S.  They offer interviews, handicapping, and several gimmicks to entertain patrons at the track.

I certainly don't agree with ALL of Gural's business practices.  But anyone with half a brain can see how much more The Meadowlands tries to promote the sport than all of it's competitors COMBINED.  Had New York contributed some of it's slot money into promotions, Yonkers racing would've been in a much better place.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 14, 2018, 09:01:46 AM
Meadowlands handles are head & shoulders above anywhere else in the U.S.  They offer interviews, handicapping, and several gimmicks to entertain patrons at the track.

I certainly don't agree with ALL of Gural's business practices.  But anyone with half a brain can see how much more The Meadowlands tries to promote the sport than all of it's competitors COMBINED.  Had New York contributed some of it's slot money into promotions, Yonkers racing would've been in a much better place.

Then why is the Big M handle in a free fall?  Has HE chased away the real fans of Harness Racing with the circus like side show?  I see there was a larger crowd at a Jackson Michigan event, where there was NO Wagering, No weiner dogs, No Camels, No sand box digging, No phony Mexican waving the flag.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: The Exporter on July 14, 2018, 09:06:25 AM
Yea, all they had to do was shut down for 10 years to build anticipation.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on July 14, 2018, 09:07:52 AM
Total Handle tonight:   $2,790,769.00 tmbz1---------last year  $1,920,413   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o7LfnK9oMc

Definitely nothing to do with the added money to the pentafecta must pay pool?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on July 15, 2018, 12:05:04 AM
The handle should top $4 million tonight! tmbz1
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 15, 2018, 12:34:07 AM
The handle should top $4 million tonight! tmbz1

Shows that Jeff should drop the overnite part of his racing schedule and only have cards saturated with hi quality steaks races
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on July 15, 2018, 12:41:43 AM
Total Handle   $4,083,401.00 tmbz1
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Pull the Pocket on July 19, 2018, 09:25:55 AM
Total Handle   $4,083,401.00 tmbz1

Wonder if week to week handle will drop 2 million dollars this week?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on July 19, 2018, 10:40:56 AM
Wonder if week to week handle will drop 2 million dollars this week?

Should have said WEEK to WEAK to WEAKER to WEAKEST  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: The Exporter on July 19, 2018, 10:59:14 AM
Weak to weakest. You are a total fucking idiot. Still 5X the handle than any slot infused track.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 19, 2018, 01:21:46 PM
 When Jeff said he could give a shit less about purses for horsemen, he opened the door for everyone to hope he would fail. Cant blame a horseman for that.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: spaheaven on July 20, 2018, 02:54:40 PM
That's because I had something else to do that nite and couldnt bet.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on July 22, 2018, 11:25:45 AM
Total Handle   $4,083,401.00 tmbz1

HANDLE OF LESS THAN 2 MILLION LAST NIGHT.  AND THE JEWISH TRACK OWNER IS TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING STEAKS RACING?

PERHAPS HE COULD CHARGE A FEE OF $200-500 EACH TO ENTER AN OVERNITE AND ADD THAT TO THE PURSE, BETTORS LIKE TO BET MORE WHEN HORSE OWNERS ARE PAYING TO RACE
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: helpplease on July 22, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
HANDLE OF LESS THAN 2 MILLION LAST NIGHT.  AND THE JEWISH TRACK OWNER IS TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING STEAKS RACING?

PERHAPS HE COULD CHARGE A FEE OF $200-500 EACH TO ENTER AN OVERNITE AND ADD THAT TO THE PURSE, BETTORS LIKE TO BET MORE WHEN HORSE OWNERS ARE PAYING TO RACE

A lot of people might not realise that Gural gets a 5% kickback of driver & trainer earnings from all regulars & he also demands & gets the regular drivers & trainers & owners to put up big dollars to sponsor races. Their is more then one way to take advantage of the pari mutuel license he has been granted.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 11:58:42 AM
A lot of people might not realise that Gural gets a 5% kickback of driver & trainer earnings from all regulars & he also demands & gets the regular drivers & trainers & owners to put up big dollars to sponsor races. Their is more then one way to take advantage of the pari mutuel license he has been granted.

DRIVERS AND TRAINERS HAFTA GIVE UP 5% TO JEFF? PLUS THEY GOTTA SPONSOR RACES? OR JUST A FEW GUYS PAYIN FOR EVERYBODY?  WE AS BETTORS DESERVE TO KNOW THESE THINGS...COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on July 22, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
A lot of people might not realise that Gural gets a 5% kickback of driver & trainer earnings from all regulars & he also demands & gets the regular drivers & trainers & owners to put up big dollars to sponsor races. Their is more then one way to take advantage of the pari mutuel license he has been granted.

You definitely need help, asswipe.   Are you related to Sean Hannity or Jeannine Perro? (Whoooppeee gave her a spanking!)

Next on the docket:  Jewffrey will begin to complain that the Fan Duel Dungeon isn't generating enough cash and he still needs the $30 mil from AC.  I've seen and heard some great whiners in my day (especially that little prick Andrew Cohen after losing a race) but I have to say that Jewffrey takes the cake............o r should I say babka.  Until next time, darlings......... ..HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: helpplease on July 22, 2018, 02:33:34 PM
You definitely need help, asswipe.   Are you related to Sean Hannity or Jeannine Perro? (Whoooppeee gave her a spanking!)

Next on the docket:  Jewffrey will begin to complain that the Fan Duel Dungeon isn't generating enough cash and he still needs the $30 mil from AC.  I've seen and heard some great whiners in my day (especially that little prick Andrew Cohen after losing a race) but I have to say that Jewffrey takes the cake............o r should I say babka.  Until next time, darlings......... ..HEIL HITLER!!

Am I the asswipe?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Fatboy on July 22, 2018, 03:04:44 PM
Am I the asswipe?
HE DID QUOTE YOU, SO MAYBE
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: helpplease on July 22, 2018, 03:05:55 PM
HE DID QUOTE YOU, SO MAYBE


LOL, good point 👍
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: helpplease on July 22, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
You definitely need help, asswipe.   Are you related to Sean Hannity or Jeannine Perro? (Whoooppeee gave her a spanking!)

Next on the docket:  Jewffrey will begin to complain that the Fan Duel Dungeon isn't generating enough cash and he still needs the $30 mil from AC.  I've seen and heard some great whiners in my day (especially that little prick Andrew Cohen after losing a race) but I have to say that Jewffrey takes the cake............o r should I say babka.  Until next time, darlings......... ..HEIL HITLER!!

If you go to my profile & read through my posts you will see I am no fan of Gural if that's what you're implying.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on July 28, 2018, 06:24:20 AM
THE POST TIME DRAG ISNT HELPING.... SPORTS BETTING ISNT HELPING

2018....
             Total Handle      $1,621,378.


2017....
               Total Handle     $2,121,250


WHERE IS THE AMATUER RACES WHEN YOU NEED THEM?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on July 28, 2018, 09:09:28 AM
THE POST TIME DRAG ISNT HELPING.... SPORTS BETTING ISNT HELPING

2018....
             Total Handle      $1,621,378.


2017....
               Total Handle     $2,121,250


WHERE IS THE AMATUER RACES WHEN YOU NEED THEM?

yo, yo, Off Ramp,

Thank you, as always, for your hard-hitting, in-depth investigatory work in exposing these hard-to-get numbers.  Well done.

The numbers show that once again Jewffrey has no idea what he is doing.  Walter Hill is showing him how its done at Monmouth with the better setup and prop bets, etc.  Monmouth took in $16.5 million in the same period Fan Stool took in $3 million at the Swamp.  The heeb's parlor looks like a janitor's closet.  No idea.

In any event, let us join hands and pray:  Dear God, Fuck Jewffrey Gural.  Amen.  Until next time, sweeties......... HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Calhoun on July 28, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
Meadowlands outhandled by Mohawk on a Friday.

Where are the Guralnick fans?

We need a.good reason!

Or.at least.a.snappy.re tort!

We deserve that much
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: slivercharm on July 28, 2018, 10:50:16 AM
Meadowlands outhandled by Mohawk on a Friday.

Where are the Guralnick fans?

We need a.good reason!

Or.at least.a.snappy.re tort!

We deserve that much


I blame the exchange rate
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: flyflysolly on July 28, 2018, 11:17:01 AM
4 inches of rain in the area. It was a monsoon here.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Inside The Pylons on July 28, 2018, 11:21:05 AM
 Perfectly dry in my tech room
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Yonkers1 on July 28, 2018, 03:36:30 PM
Very damp in my basement
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: FreeBA on July 28, 2018, 07:55:25 PM
Very damp in my basement

Who gives a fuck you loser. Go kiss Gurals Ass and ask him why he let a fucking con-man like Libous and a fucking Mafioso group like Cimenelli, who were just convicted build Tioga. Fucking cheating scum.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Fatboy on July 28, 2018, 08:04:22 PM
Who gives a fuck you loser. Go kiss Gurals Ass and ask him why he let a fucking con-man like Libous and a fucking Mafioso group like Cimenelli, who were just convicted build Tioga. Fucking cheating scum.
AND MRS CLINTON WILL WIN EASILY 321 ELECTORAL VOTES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: FreeBA on July 28, 2018, 08:08:14 PM
AND MRS CLINTON WILL WIN EASILY 321 ELECTORAL VOTES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Hey Fatfuck, that's the past you fucking loser. What the fuck are you still doing on this forum anyway? Heres some advice straight from Pigfuck.....GSAC
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: JOHN FRANK on July 28, 2018, 09:05:54 PM
WHO THE FUC CARES.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on July 29, 2018, 04:40:48 AM
WHO THE FUC CARES.

THANK YOU MR ARMY, LESS PEOPLE GIVE A FUC ABOUT THE MEADOWLANDS HARNESS RACING EVERY DAY THAT PASSES

2018...…
Total Handle $2,335,364

2017......
Total Handle  $2,570,392

OVER A 10%  DROP IN HANDLE FROM A YEAR AGO, EVEN WITH ALL THOSE GREAT PROMOTIONS.  PEOPLE ARE TIRING OF THE SAME OLD,SAME OLD

Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Atthetrack7 on July 29, 2018, 06:56:52 AM
Last Years Hambletonian day Handle was  5.7 million. Will this be an over or an under this year?
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Fatboy on July 29, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
Last Years Hambletonian day Handle was  5.7 million. Will this be an over or an under this year?

Over if sunny.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Calhoun on July 29, 2018, 09:40:23 AM
Hey Fatfuck, that's the past you fucking loser. What the fuck are you still doing on this forum anyway? Heres some advice straight from Pigfuck.....GSAC
Welcome back.  This forum is now less worthless.
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on July 29, 2018, 09:57:23 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/hpc/detail-page/c26-B00387F3RM-2-l.jpg) Stock on the rise this week. Crying will start Fri evening and last until Sat last race. Theme this year "the casinos won't give me back my $30 MILLION a year"  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on August 04, 2018, 08:32:31 AM
 2017....$2,629,872

 2018.…. $2,332,354

ALMOST 300 GRAND LESS IN HANDLE THIS YEAR THAN COMPARED TO LAST.  DAY IS SETTING UP FOR A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR MEADOWLANDS ACCOUNTANTS
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Buffy the Vampire Slayer on August 04, 2018, 08:59:41 AM
2017....$2,629,872

 2018.…. $2,332,354

ALMOST 300 GRAND LESS IN HANDLE THIS YEAR THAN COMPARED TO LAST.  DAY IS SETTING UP FOR A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR MEADOWLANDS ACCOUNTANTS

And word on the street is that traffic has been extremely light in the Fan Stool Janitor Closet, too.  Camels, corn, casino, Cote, integrity initiative, pick and choose, no DACA for mexican horsemen, new bus station, Fan Stool, etc., etc., etc.  Jooffrey has tried 1000 things and NOTHING has worked.  He is one stupid cocksucker.

But........let us join hands and pray.  Dear God, Fuck Jooffrey Gural.  Amen.  Until next time, laddies.......... .......HEIL HITLER!!
Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 04, 2018, 11:10:54 AM
And word on the street is that traffic has been extremely light in the Fan Stool Janitor Closet, too.  Camels, corn, casino, Cote, integrity initiative, pick and choose, no DACA for mexican horsemen, new bus station, Fan Stool, etc., etc., etc.  Jooffrey has tried 1000 things and NOTHING has worked.  He is one stupid cocksucker.

But........let us join hands and pray.  Dear God, Fuck Jooffrey Gural.  Amen.  Until next time, laddies.......... .......HEIL HITLER!!









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Title: Re: FRIDAY BIG M HANDLE DOWN 500K FROM LAST YEAR
Post by: Exit 16W on August 04, 2018, 08:25:17 PM
 CLOSING DAY  2017...… $5,788,820

CLOSING DAY    2018...….$5,669,720


 A NICE HANDLE TODAY FOR SURE, BUT STILL A DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR. 
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