I would like to personally thank Jeff Gural for hosting the Hambo!

[ScrapeThePaint]

No longer owners.. got out long ago..
No slot welfare, no harness racing

Who’s talking about slot welfare?!?! I guess you conveniently ignored the fact that racetracks existed before these casinos join them so just because a racetrack has inflated purses, that’s the cost of doing business with a racetrack and that’s how the casinos were able to get their doors open. But of course you conveniently ignore that.

 We’re talking about owners trainers and drivers making record money. That’s thriving.

[Lockedin with Pace]

47'states have casinos, how many states have racetracks, a helluva lot less. If a racetrack closed down, the casino would still be in busines. If the welfare was cut or eliminated entirely purses would drop big time and some tracks would wind up closing.and that's a fact whether you accept it or not n

[andrew]

47'states have casinos, how many states have racetracks, a helluva lot less. If a racetrack closed down, the casino would still be in busines. If the welfare was cut or eliminated entirely purses would drop big time and some tracks would wind up closing.and that's a fact whether you accept it or not n

he [?] womt 

[Lockedin with Pace]

Paintbrush looks like he overdosed on turpentine today because he's mixing it up with everyone in between agreeing with "G" and kissing Mark Ford's ass

[rainman2]

Gural is an exception to harness racing.  He is personally involved in owning and breeding! He has skin in the game! The majority of other racetracks are owned by gambling coops--e.g, MGM, Penn National, et al.

Whether you like him and his policies or not he is doing what he thinks is best.  He gets this privilege as he actually is responsible for running racetracks.  Right/wrong/good/bad!  He is actually fan friendly too!  I said hello to him at Tioga Downs for the Empire Breeders Classic.  The staff actually encourages you to do this too!

[Lockedin with Pace]

Jeff thanks you for the testimonial

[Kenny]

Who’s talking about slot welfare?!?! I guess you conveniently ignored the fact that racetracks existed before these casinos join them so just because a racetrack has inflated purses, that’s the cost of doing business with a racetrack and that’s how the casinos were able to get their doors open. But of course you conveniently ignore that.

 We’re talking about owners trainers and drivers making record money. That’s thriving.

Casinos exist because people WANT THEM. It is that simple. The rest is just politics and there is not reason a casino needs to have a racetrack. In fact, a racetrack is just a drag on the casino business. Why should the government give handouts to racing when the general public could care less that racing even exists? As a racing fan, I would celebrate the ending of the handouts.

[Kenny]

Gural is an exception to harness racing.  He is personally involved in owning and breeding! He has skin in the game! The majority of other racetracks are owned by gambling coops--e.g, MGM, Penn National, et al.

Whether you like him and his policies or not he is doing what he thinks is best.  He gets this privilege as he actually is responsible for running racetracks.  Right/wrong/good/bad!  He is actually fan friendly too!  I said hello to him at Tioga Downs for the Empire Breeders Classic.  The staff actually encourages you to do this too!

That was not true at the beginning. When slots came in, the racing industry SOLD OUT to the casino companies.

[G]

That was not true at the beginning. When slots came in, the racing industry SOLD OUT to the casino companies.

says the guy with a tape recorder in his pocket. Another fucking loser who is jealous of Jeff

[Sweet]

says the guy with a tape recorder in his pocket. Another fucking loser who is jealous of Jeff

What's for lunch, G? 

Jeff's, FATSO's, Steve's cock? 

[jupiter]

Race Tracks were owned by people and families. They actually enjoyed racing, most were in attendance every night. Knew the patrons, people on the backside.

[rainman2]

Race Tracks were owned by people and families. They actually enjoyed racing, most were in attendance every night. Knew the patrons, people on the backside.

I was at Batavia last year as the meet was opening, and Byron Brown was walking around the facility.  He was well dressed and said hello to people as they were walking through.  Batavia Downs actually makes radio commercials with racing involved as a part of the entertainment package that is available.  Do any other tracks promote racing?

[Pacer 2]

I was at Batavia last year as the meet was opening, and Byron Brown was walking around the facility.  He was well dressed and said hello to people as they were walking through.  Batavia Downs actually makes radio commercials with racing involved as a part of the entertainment package that is available.  Do any other tracks promote racing?

     Pretty sure all racetracks promote racing!   

[rainman2]

     Pretty sure all racetracks promote racing!   

On Radio advertising?  The first part of the advertising is for live racing, then other events.

What tracks actually advertise racing first?

On a different note:

Years ago, across the street from Yonkers, there was a Mohegan Sun billboard up!

[Lockedin with Pace]

I live about 20 minutes from Harrah's Philly. It's located in Chester, PA in a bad neighborhood with high crime. There's virtually no one at the track for live racing, the casino is 3/4 empty, and they do no promoting at all. There's also a minimum-security prison 2 blocks away.