Which Harness Drivers, Trainers and Connections Bet Heavy

[Any1Left]

  I don't bet very often but love to bet the big cards like Hambo day,  Pace day or BC program.
     Don't really have time to handicap everyday races so I keep it to those events.
    However I'm  so turned off the last few years by the very SMALL chance if making some cash that I will only watch the replays the next day now.   
I think the average payoff would not exceed $3.10 in those races and the money will fall last tote and bring a 5-2 horse to 4-5.
      It's gotten that smart money is cannibalizing the pools and the average Joe won't stand a chance.
     I have a better chance of making money by betting sports and that's what I do when I want some action.
 

A rare very good post on this site,      It keeps getting worse with each month as its underlay after underlay and if you can not beat a race when a super value underlay makes the race a must play then why play,   In poker its huge value to a game when someone is a non figure but these days in horse racing the group of dead money are live money gamblers and that makes no sense,   Years ago one of the top winning players i ever met told me that the biggest sucker players motto is its better to cash than rip and that is so insane because if your cashing on some of these 3 dollar horses you have to go broke.

[sledge hammer]

  I don't bet very often but love to bet the big cards like Hambo day,  Pace day or BC program.
     Don't really have time to handicap everyday races so I keep it to those events.
    However I'm  so turned off the last few years by the very SMALL chance if making some cash that I will only watch the replays the next day now.   
I think the average payoff would not exceed $3.10 in those races and the money will fall last tote and bring a 5-2 horse to 4-5.
      It's gotten that smart money is cannibalizing the pools and the average Joe won't stand a chance.
     I have a better chance of making money by betting sports and that's what I do when I want some action.
 

Go look at results charts from the "old days"...you NEVER saw a $2.10 payoff anywhere, very rarely an odds-on favorite unless it was the Open or a stakes race.
And if you had a heavy favorite it would pay like $3.20, $2.60, $2.40
Now it's $3.20 2.10 2.10.

[Yonkers1A]

Everyone at Monticello, purses are too low, they supplement their income at the window, fact, legit 100%

[dougie]

A rare very good post on this site,      It keeps getting worse with each month as its underlay after underlay and if you can not beat a race when a super value underlay makes the race a must play then why play,   In poker its huge value to a game when someone is a non figure but these days in horse racing the group of dead money are live money gamblers and that makes no sense,   Years ago one of the top winning players i ever met told me that the biggest sucker players motto is its better to cash than rip and that is so insane because if your cashing on some of these 3 dollar horses you have to go broke.

I think you are 100% right. There was a periodical named "American Turf monthly" which used to make the same points you just did. I try to pick my spots and look for some value in certain races. Most of the horseplayers i've met who've have had a modicum of success seem to "pick their spots" and have great money management skills.

[Checked Up]

Monticello is difficult to handicap with just a program or form imo,but if you have a reliable "connections " to the backstretch,it can be very helpful!

[Pacer 2]

Everyone at Monticello, purses are too low, they supplement their income at the window, fact, legit 100%

     Hogwash!!       Thats as much HOGWASH as your Ford will resign posts!! 

[NOTHING BUT TRUTHS]

some of the all time greatest gambler came from or were once at Northfield. some are still there.

[Brown jug]

minimal betting by drivers for sure, most make too much money and betting is not worth the hassle or risk
similar for trainers but a few of the smaller guys will drop down a bet when they think they have one good to go
however grooms will bet , to them making  a score is still significant and if they think one of the ones they look after is good and trainer says its go time they drop down a bet