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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2025, 01:18:52 PM »
Mott is a great trainer Sovereignty will be tough.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2025, 01:21:23 PM »
He will be when Journalism sits out.

that would make him a slight fave over Baeza

I hope Journalism runs

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2025, 01:49:46 PM »
   
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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2025, 01:52:14 PM »
Sovereignty deserves to be a big favorite....

If they both run, I think Journalism will still be favored over Sovereignty.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2025, 03:59:26 PM »
Journalism has shipped to Saratoga, Belmont decision to be made in time. While it would be great for the sport, if he were my horse, I'd point for the Travers.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2025, 07:35:33 PM »
Mott is a great trainer Sovereignty will be tough.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2025, 09:33:40 AM »
Interesting that Sovereignty won't be the favorite, even if Journalism runs. I just figured the majority of the pool are novices at best. I don't think the majority of the pool is smarty money. If the general public is the majority of the pool, I think they will see the Derby line, where one beats the other, the Preakness line, where one won and the other sat out, and they make Mott's horse the favorite. Guess not.

If both go, I hope they are both 100% on their game and that it's a great race. Journalism will be on 3 races in 5 weeks, and that last one.....does he stay the same, move forward, or regress. Get your money and bet your pick!

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2025, 10:20:34 AM »
Interesting that Sovereignty won't be the favorite, even if Journalism runs. I just figured the majority of the pool are novices at best. I don't think the majority of the pool is smarty money. If the general public is the majority of the pool, I think they will see the Derby line, where one beats the other, the Preakness line, where one won and the other sat out, and they make Mott's horse the favorite. Guess not.

If both go, I hope they are both 100% on their game and that it's a great race. Journalism will be on 3 races in 5 weeks, and that last one.....does he stay the same, move forward, or regress. Get your money and bet your pick!
   

    Sovereignty will and should be the favorite

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2025, 10:22:27 AM »
   

    Sovereignty will and should be the favorite

I would have thought so. I guess we'll see.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2025, 10:24:18 AM »
 
I would have thought so. I guess we'll see.
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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2025, 10:39:13 AM »
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Still think Journalism will be the favorite based more on his win in the Preakness than his loss in the Derby. He's been the favorite in just about all his lifetime starts where Soveignty hasn't

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2025, 10:46:16 AM »
Latest reports on Horse Racing Nation tells us that both Journalism and Sovereignty are both heading to the Belmont along with Baeza, Gosger, Heart Of Honor, Hill Road, and Rodriguez. What other horse in this race is going to press the speed of Gosger? And if you were owner/trainer of Heart Of Honor, would you take off jockey Saffie Osborne and replace her with a jockey familiar with Saratoga's track and surface?

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2025, 10:58:39 AM »
Latest reports on Horse Racing Nation tells us that both Journalism and Sovereignty are both heading to the Belmont along with Baeza, Gosger, Heart Of Honor, Hill Road, and Rodriguez. What other horse in this race is going to press the speed of Gosger? And if you were owner/trainer of Heart Of Honor, would you take off jockey Saffie Osborne and replace her with a jockey familiar with Saratoga's track and surface?

Baeza at over 5-1 is play unfortunately Sandman isn’t going so the dumb money won’t be on him.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2025, 11:17:20 AM »
The Answer.....I was disappointed to not see Sandman going too!

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2025, 11:22:06 AM »
There are a lot of races for 3 year olds for good money without having to face the top horses.The Belmont isn't the same at Saratoga at a shorter distance.

 

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