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Who will make up for the rich topsoil the industry provides with all its manure, sawdust and dead horses???
Now the question is, just how far do I want to go with this???

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2025, 12:57:17 AM »
Who will make up for the rich topsoil the industry provides with all its manure, sawdust and dead horses???
  Its not gonna die dont worry!   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years!  ngc3

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2025, 05:55:29 AM »
35 years? Look back at what it was 35 years ago. So, maybe death is premature but stage 4 cancer is more accurate.

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2025, 06:38:02 AM »
That’s more accurate.  The end isn’t tomorrow, but the writing is on the wall!

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2025, 06:55:24 AM »
  Its not gonna die dont worry!   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years!  ngc3

Explain what the industry looks like when the states have a budget crisis and have a choice between raising taxes or diverting the handouts to racing.

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2025, 08:23:56 AM »
35 years? Look back at what it was 35 years ago. So, maybe death is premature but stage 4 cancer is more accurate.
Great analogy. I just turned 50 last year. I remember as a teenager and in my twenties having to make a reservation weeks in advance to sit in the massive grandstand at Scioto. Now with a new grandstand which is much smaller you can sit anywhere you want on a Saturday night. Having attended jug week my entire life, back in the day the grandstand was packed everyday and the aluminum bleachers packed next to it everyday. Now except for jug day the grandstand is mostly empty. The first step of fixing a problem is admitting there is one, and unfortunately alot of people in the industry will not.

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2025, 08:33:27 AM »
WHAT ABOUT THE ONE FEED STORE GUY?

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2025, 11:25:41 AM »
Explain what the industry looks like when the states have a budget crisis and have a choice between raising taxes or diverting the handouts to racing.

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  That aint happening

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2025, 11:34:17 AM »
  That aint happening

Keep your head buried in the sand. PA has tried several times.  Soon as the state needs money they will raid the fund.  How many votes would a politician lose compared to how many they lose by raising taxes.  the general public aka voters could care less about harness racing.

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Instead of funding wealthy horse hobbyists, we should be putting the hundreds of millions in annual subsidies toward Pennsylvania students. It’s time to start putting the education of children over the hobbies of billionaires.

https://edvoterspa.org/race-horse-development-fund/

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“Over the last 10 years, racing days have declined a lot in Pennsylvania, the number of breeding horses born or the number of race horses born in the state declined, so the activity in the industry has declined substantially despite the huge subsidies,” Hooke said. “On the surface, it doesn't look like it makes any sense.”

https://www.thecentersquare.com/pennsylvania/article_812c5dee-a6ac-11ed-bd87-b7978946c4c5.html
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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2025, 11:41:13 AM »
Keep your head buried in the sand. PA has tried several times.  Soon as the state needs money they will raid the fund.  How many votes would a politician lose compared to how many they lose by raising taxes.  the general public aka voters could care less about harness racing.

https://edvoterspa.org/race-horse-development-fund/
  Yeah, I disagree Kenny it aint happening

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« Last Edit: May 02, 2025, 11:43:57 AM by Kenny »

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2025, 11:46:49 AM »
They've been threatening to do that for several years which the horsemen strongly oppose, but eventually it's probably go to happen, or at least reduced.

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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2025, 11:50:42 AM »
They've been threatening to do that for several years which the horsemen strongly oppose, but eventually it's probably go to happen, or at least reduced.

The voters could care less if racing exists and they are eventually going to scream about $200 million going to racing.  it is only a matter of time. Most of the track are own by casino companies. They would gladly dump racing. The fans are gone so racing is basically welfare now.

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2025, 12:18:09 PM »
what a crock of shit this article is, clearly written by a left wing snowflake

Pennsylvania has the opportunity to make college more affordable to its young people who will become the next generation of teachers and nurses without raising taxes,” said Spicka. “Rather than padding the pockets of wealthy breeders and horse owners, lawmakers can relieve the stress of college payments on parents and students and support our economy.”
             really ?? padding the pockets?? and what about all the people who will lose their jobs, Vets, blacksmiths, truckers, equipment , feed suppliers, grooms, growers, i
             guess they dont count, maybe these kids getting a free education can figure out a way to find them employment or how the government should pay them when
            they are all on welfare

Racing also takes a large toll on the horses who are injured or die on the track. Over the last ten years more than 1400 horses have died at Pennsylvania’s racetracks.
      wow  just throwing out numbers, what % is this of all the horses that have raced over the last 10 years

i understand each state is different, ohio and kentuucky in particiulair seem to endorse and embrace horse racing
      people die in plane crashes, music festivals , car crashes, guess we should stop all of those as well

look we all know the industry is far from perfect but it does serve a purpose and there is an economic multiplier effect to having it around

dirty lying politicians now trying to be hollier than thou.. PLEASE!!!

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Re: Valuable Resources Will Be Lost If Harness Racing Dies....
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2025, 12:18:56 PM »
  Its not gonna die dont worry!   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years!  ngc3

 

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