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If I recall it was put forward by a group of judges who claim that more starts lead to more injuries and that this leaves horses unfit for their retirement.  This should go over like a lead balloon.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2024, 08:27:41 AM »
idiotic suggestion. Maybe restrict how fast they can go.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2024, 12:34:17 PM »
idiotic suggestion. Maybe restrict how fast they can go.

It's a great and enduring tradition of harness racing that any effort to make life safer for horses is labelled "idiotic".

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2024, 12:37:19 PM »
Limit starts on 2 yr olds! Beter yet make 3 yr olds the soonest you can start to race. Then you'll see sounder older horses.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2024, 01:23:09 PM »
I agree with limiting starts for 2-year-olds, but not being to start racing until you're 3 would never fly and plenty of owners would leave the game because they can't get back their investment.

I see Art Stafford Jr was able to drive his trotter Yale in a Delaware Standardbred Development race this week and is in again next week but has no other drives. Is it because it's considered a stake race where they've been paying fees along the way?
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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2024, 01:26:29 PM »
Nick Clegg is proposing that 2yr old only be allowed to start 42 times in a calendar year.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2024, 01:42:05 PM »
here's a thought
usta /acgo do some real work and catch the juicers who make horses go faster than they are capable
that's why so many breakdown

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2024, 03:17:58 PM »
I agree with limiting starts for 2-year-olds, but not being to start racing until you're 3 would never fly and plenty of owners would leave the game because they can't get back their investment.

I see Art Stafford Jr was able to drive his trotter Yale in a Delaware Standardbred Development race this week and is in again next week but has no other drives. Is it because it's considered a stake race where they've been paying fees along the way?

That would make sense regarding Stafford. Also I see Lare is gone at Dover as well.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2024, 03:24:35 PM »
Let em race....Just take the whip away. These old warhorses know what to do.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2024, 03:33:46 PM »
Kirby's Ace:

You're right about Kevin Lare being gone because last week he was still listed as trainer on Primo Maschio. He's in an early non-wagering race tonight and Walter Callahan is listed as trainer. I know his son Shea was suspended for 6 months last year, it's been close to a year since and he's nowhere to be found.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2024, 03:41:30 PM »
Kirby's Ace:

You're right about Kevin Lare being gone because last week he was still listed as trainer on Primo Maschio. He's in an early non-wagering race tonight and Walter Callahan is listed as trainer. I know his son Shea was suspended for 6 months last year, it's been close to a year since and he's nowhere to be found.

Is getting banded genetic?  How many generations is this?

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2024, 03:50:36 PM »
Hasn't been a good year for the Lare's, their father John died earlier this year and Primo Maschio just lost for the 2nd straight week, guess the Lare magic has worn off!
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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2024, 04:18:57 PM »
Nick Clegg is proposing that 2yr old only be allowed to start 42 times in a calendar year.

And no more than 3 times in a week unless the driver is over 250 lbs, then 2 times in a week.

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2024, 06:25:56 AM »
Lare may not be listed as trainer but he’s still training them horses. Walter and Jaimie just are listed on the program. It’s ridiculous

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Re: Proposed change to USTA regs to limit aged horses to 35 starts/year
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2024, 08:28:03 AM »
More posturing by the USTA. HISA just held a major roundtable/meeting at the Breeders Cup and the topic was racehorse safety. They covered both from the sport/business perspective, and relative to public perception. Then they expanded the conversations. HISA has already had more than a hand in getting tracks to delay or cancel racing, shut down a turf course, etc.---and they've been successful in doing it, even though they don't have the enforcement authority to directly do it. That's a success.

The USTA can recommend, propose, even mandate, all they want. I am still waiting to see what authority they actually have. Like we've seen before, they are inserting themselves into issues where they were uninvited, and they have no authority. Sounds like a lot of noise to me. I think you will see more state horsemen's associations begin to act autonomously, support HISA, and begin to operate differently.

If this proposal ever goes anywhere----watch what happens when people start calling for limiting the # of starts for 2yo's. Now that will be entertaining to watch, LOL.

 

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