no balls to make a call at yonkers

[getreal]

Race 8 if its an overnight its a DQ. Variegated clearly goes way inside a pylon , clearly gains an advantage and the no balls
judges keep him up. How? No freaking guts.

[Brkn Headpole]

Agreed. Just make up the rules as they go.

[Chips N Salsa]

Has to be two consecutive to come down and he grazed one and inside the other.  It was at top of stretch so there wasn't anything gained.

[Harnessfan902]

He went inside the pylons and gained a clear advantage.    Very poor call. 

[Harness Stats]

Has to be two consecutive to come down and he grazed one and inside the other.  It was at top of stretch so there wasn't anything gained.

  I was watching as it happened. He went inside of only one pylon and gained no ground.

[Papillon]

if you clearly go inside a pylon but the pylon moves--they consider that not a violation

place a GPS tracker/geo locator on the pylons and wheels on the bike and leave no doubt despite any pylon movement

[Brkn Headpole]

There has already been a precedent set where judges have taken down horses who go inside one pylon to gain an advantage which this horse clearly did.

[Papillon]

There has already been a precedent set where judges have taken down horses who go inside one pylon to gain an advantage which this horse clearly did.

this seems to vary from track to track

it doesnt seem to be written down anywhere--there is no consistency

[Here they come]

Good call. They followed the rule. And I would have loved to have him DQ. Bet the 3 🤷‍♂️

[Brkn Headpole]

c. If   in   the   opinion   of   the   Judges   a   horse   while   on   stride,   or   part   of   the   horse’s   sulky,   goes   inside   a   
pylon(s)   and   that   action   gave   the   horse   an   unfair   advantage   over   other   horses   in   the   race   or   the   action   
helped   improve   its   position   in   the   race,   the   horse   may   be   placed   at   the   discretion   of   the   Judges.


Now this is PAs interpretation in their rulebook , hence the need for uniformity all over.

[kooter for hipin]

c. If   in   the   opinion   of   the   Judges   a   horse   while   on   stride,   or   part   of   the   horse’s   sulky,   goes   inside   a   
pylon(s)   and   that   action   gave   the   horse   an   unfair   advantage   over   other   horses   in   the   race   or   the   action   
helped   improve   its   position   in   the   race,   the   horse   may   be   placed   at   the   discretion   of   the   Judges.


Now this is PAs interpretation in their rulebook , hence the need for uniformity all over.

Anytime a horse number and track starts a thread, 95% of the time it is just another Bad Beat story and will not change because of an opinion on Horseplop.

[The Unstable]

Was never getting taken down.  Inside one pylon, hit the other one outside. 

[Parked]

Way to many stipulation to the rules. You just can’t leave it up to todays judges. Pylons mark the course, if inside one down you go.  No more “mitigating circumstances “ you have a positive or you don’t. 

[helpplease]

Was never getting taken down.  Inside one pylon, hit the other one outside.

If a driver swerves inside as little as one pillion to get their race bike wheel ahead of the race bike wheel of the horse beside them, which then allows the offender to go forward when otherwise they would not have been able to, that is improving your position & does & in imo should be called for placing the horse. Of course if the above scenario happens it is up to the judges to make a judgement call on if in fact the offender improved their position.

[mwins]

If a driver swerves inside as little as one pillion to get their race bike wheel ahead of the race bike wheel of the horse beside them, which then allows the offender to go forward when otherwise they would not have been able to, that is improving your position & does & in imo should be called for placing the horse. Of course if the above scenario happens it is up to the judges to make a judgement call on if in fact the offender improved their position.

This ^^
Horse did not gain an advantage.
1 pylon, correct call.