VIP Racing syndicate/parthership

[RANDOLPH POKER]

The culling of the underachieving yearling purchases continues...a few 2YOs currently up for bids via ON GAIT:

I estimated 12 months of training @ $2,500 + $5,000 in staking

Might be way off on the estimates...

SPEED OF AN ANGEL (f, Marseilles)
Trainer: Chris Beaver
Yearling Price: $31,000 (Ohio Jug Sale - September, 2023)
Training and Staking (Approx): $35,000
TOTAL INVESTMENT (Approx): $66,000
Total Earnings: $6,033 in 8 starts
Starting Bid: $5,000
Approx. Loss: $56,000

https://ongait.com/Listings/View/29758?search=


SEA CRUISE (c, Downbytheseaside)
Trainer: Brian Brown
Yearling Price $40,000 (Ohio Jug Sale - September, 2023)
Training and Staking (Approx): $35,000
TOTAL INVESTMENT (Approx): $75,000
Total Earnings: $0 in 1 start
Current Bid: $5,800
Approx. Loss: $69,000

https://ongait.com/Listings/View/29736?search=

[Kirbys Ace]

Loss if any will be based on final sale price not starting bid price.

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Trotter got a bid of $5,200 so far...
Pacer sold for $13,800 to Kurt Sugg (approx. loss $62,000)

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Update as of 8/29/24:

More selling of 2-year-olds:

SPEED OF AN ANGEL just sold for $16,000 (paid $31,000)
SEA CRUISE sold for $13,800 (paid $40,000)

LADYANNE VOLO listed for $20,000 (bought for $32,000)
GROOVED PAVEMENT listed for $4,000 (bought for $40,000)

Chanceoflightning (f, Courtly Choice) $18,000 (Goshen) (Cory Stratton) $55,190 (5)
Uncle Moneybags (g, Uncle Peter) $37,000 (Jug) (Chris Beaver) $44,650 (4)
Pants On Fire (c, Catch The Fire) $20,000 (Jug) (Brian Brown) $33,750 (3)
Surreal Believer (f, So Surreal) $15,000 (Goshen) (Stratton) $10,933 (6)
Milky Way Bay (f, Cantab Hall) $22,000 (Lex) (John Butenschoen) $9,420 (5)
*Ladyanne Volo (f, Walner) $32,000 (Lex) (Beaver) $6,750 (2)
Smart Guy (g, Huntsville) $50,000 (Goshen) (Julie Miller) $6,400 (3)
   Sold 8/2/24 - $31,200 - OnGait
Miss Fancy Nancy (f, JK Endofanera) $20,000 (Lex) (Brown) $2,750 (2)
Moni Man (g, Walner) $45,000 (HBG) (Paul Kelley) $3,750 (1)
*Speed Of An Angel (f, Marseilles) $31,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $3,696 (6)
Lou’s Starr (c, Sweet Lou) $32,000 (Lex) (Stratton) $600 (4)
Gowiz The Boys (f, What The Hill) $30,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $531 (3)
Dark Magic (f, Tall Dark Stranger) $55,000 (Lex) (Brown)  $0 (n/s)
Where’s Papi (c, Papi Rob Hanover) $45,000 (Lex) (Brown) $0 (0)
Blossom (f, Tall Dark Stranger) $50,000 (Lex) (Per Engblom) $0 (3)
Catch Up To Me (c, Catch The Fire) $30,000 (Jug) (Brown) $0 (n/s)
*Sea Cruise (c, Downbytheseaside) $40,000 (Jug) (Brown) $0 (1)
*Grooved Pavement (c, Long Tom) $40,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $0 (4)
Two Levy’s (c, Keystone Velocity) $0 (n/s)

[Harness Stats]

VIP STABLE RESULTS – 2-YEAR-OLDS (AS OF 8/11/24)

TOTAL COST: $612,000
TOTAL EARNINGS: $178,419

AVERAGE COST (18): $34,000

AVERAGE EARNINGS PER TROTTER (7) $9,828
AVERAGE EARNINGS PER PACER (12) $9,135

By Trainer:
Brown: 6
Beaver: 5
Stratton: 3
Engblom: 1
Butenschoen: 1
Kelley: 1
Julie Miller: 1

HORSE (Breeding) Sales Price (Sale) (Trainer) Earnings (# of starts)

Good work I'm curious how you got this info.  Is this a report than you can generate on Pathway?

I ruined my eyesight in the 80s compiling a similar report for a few years on all yearling sales by stallions with earnings.

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Just did my own research based on the yearlings that they bought and offered....

[sfdecoy]

Someone asked recently about them.  Here are some stats on their current 2YOs.  Not sure of the trainer on one of the non starters.

Yes, it's early in the season.  Yes, not include residual value.
Yes, doesn't include training bills and stakes payments for 8-11 months.


VIP STABLE RESULTS – 2-YEAR-OLDS (AS OF 8/11/24)

TOTAL COST: $612,000







TOTAL EARNINGS: $178,419

AVERAGE COST (18): $34,000

AVERAGE EARNINGS PER TROTTER (7) $9,828
AVERAGE EARNINGS PER PACER (12) $9,135

By Trainer:
Brown: 6
Beaver: 5
Stratton: 3
Engblom: 1
Butenschoen: 1
Kelley: 1
Julie Miller: 1

HORSE (Breeding) Sales Price (Sale) (Trainer) Earnings (# of starts)
Chanceoflightning (f, Courtly Choice) $18,000 (Goshen) (Cory Stratton) $55,190 (5)
Uncle Moneybags (g, Uncle Peter) $37,000 (Jug) (Chris Beaver) $44,650 (4)
Pants On Fire (c, Catch The Fire) $20,000 (Jug) (Brian Brown) $33,750 (3)
Surreal Believer (f, So Surreal) $15,000 (Goshen) (Stratton) $10,933 (6)
Milky Way Bay (f, Cantab Hall) $22,000 (Lex) (John Butenschoen) $9,420 (5)
Ladyanne Volo (f, Walner) $32,000 (Lex) (Beaver) $6,750 (2)
Smart Guy (g, Huntsville) $50,000 (Goshen) (Julie Miller) $6,400 (3)
   Sold 8/2/24 - $31,200 - OnGait
Miss Fancy Nancy (f, JK Endofanera) $20,000 (Lex) (Brown) $2,750 (2)
Moni Man (g, Walner) $45,000 (HBG) (Paul Kelley) $3,750 (1)
Speed Of An Angel (f, Marseilles) $31,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $3,696 (6)
Lou’s Starr (c, Sweet Lou) $32,000 (Lex) (Stratton) $600 (4)
Gowiz The Boys (f, What The Hill) $30,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $531 (3)
Dark Magic (f, Tall Dark Stranger) $55,000 (Lex) (Brown)  $0 (n/s)
Where’s Papi (c, Papi Rob Hanover) $45,000 (Lex) (Brown) $0 (0)
Blossom (f, Tall Dark Stranger) $50,000 (Lex) (Per Engblom) $0 (3)
Catch Up To Me (c, Catch The Fire) $30,000 (Jug) (Brown) $0 (n/s)
Sea Cruise (c, Downbytheseaside) $40,000 (Jug) (Brown) $0 (1)
Grooved Pavement (c, Long Tom) $40,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $0 (4)
Two Levy’s (c, Keystone Velocity) $0 (n/s)

Two thoughts:

1) AWESOME job putting this together

2) Don't walk, RUUUUN away from that hot mess

It's a tough game but those numbers are fucking terrible! They should switch to throwing darts at a board to pick the yearling next yr

[Brown jug]

makes the stable .ca look good

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I can't speak to VIP or The Stable, but at a certain point, the company's business model is not racing horses --- it's syndicating product and selling shares. If any of these companies sell this as an investment, one, they are potentially violating securities laws (unless they have massive numbers of disclaimers and doing it legally and legit).....and two, even if they are, run away from them ASAP.

These micro-shares, LP deals, whatever, are nothing more than buying an experience, providing some fun/benefits, and giving you some direct exposure to the game, albeit minimal at best. That's all. If you got some money to blow and want the experience, then it works for you. There are some legit players and bad apples, just like in any business.

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Another one on the block:

Opening bid: $5,000

SURREAL BELIEVER (2YO pacing filly)

https://ongait.com/Listings/View/29866?search=

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Ladyanne Volo (f, Walner) $32,000 (Lex) (Beaver) $6,750 (2)

Just sold for $30,000

2 more on the block:

SURREAL BELIEVER
GROOVED PAVEMENT

[gecko_eh]

Worst part is when the horse is sold, there is a commission on the sell price despite it being a loss because they claim that the horse was depreciated to 0.

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Surreal Believer (f, So Surreal) $15,000 (Goshen) (Stratton) $10,933 (6)

Bought back for $9,400

[RANDOLPH POKER]

Grooved Pavement (c, Long Tom) $40,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $0 (4)

Just sold for $11,400

[Zoomer]

Someone asked recently about them.  Here are some stats on their current 2YOs.  Not sure of the trainer on one of the non starters.

Yes, it's early in the season.  Yes, not include residual value.
Yes, doesn't include training bills and stakes payments for 8-11 months.


VIP STABLE RESULTS – 2-YEAR-OLDS (AS OF 8/11/24)

TOTAL COST: $612,000
TOTAL EARNINGS: $178,419

AVERAGE COST (18): $34,000

AVERAGE EARNINGS PER TROTTER (7) $9,828
AVERAGE EARNINGS PER PACER (12) $9,135

By Trainer:
Brown: 6
Beaver: 5
Stratton: 3
Engblom: 1
Butenschoen: 1
Kelley: 1
Julie Miller: 1

HORSE (Breeding) Sales Price (Sale) (Trainer) Earnings (# of starts)
Chanceoflightning (f, Courtly Choice) $18,000 (Goshen) (Cory Stratton) $55,190 (5)
Uncle Moneybags (g, Uncle Peter) $37,000 (Jug) (Chris Beaver) $44,650 (4)
Pants On Fire (c, Catch The Fire) $20,000 (Jug) (Brian Brown) $33,750 (3)
Surreal Believer (f, So Surreal) $15,000 (Goshen) (Stratton) $10,933 (6)
Milky Way Bay (f, Cantab Hall) $22,000 (Lex) (John Butenschoen) $9,420 (5)
Ladyanne Volo (f, Walner) $32,000 (Lex) (Beaver) $6,750 (2)
Smart Guy (g, Huntsville) $50,000 (Goshen) (Julie Miller) $6,400 (3)
   Sold 8/2/24 - $31,200 - OnGait
Miss Fancy Nancy (f, JK Endofanera) $20,000 (Lex) (Brown) $2,750 (2)
Moni Man (g, Walner) $45,000 (HBG) (Paul Kelley) $3,750 (1)
Speed Of An Angel (f, Marseilles) $31,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $3,696 (6)
Lou’s Starr (c, Sweet Lou) $32,000 (Lex) (Stratton) $600 (4)
Gowiz The Boys (f, What The Hill) $30,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $531 (3)
Dark Magic (f, Tall Dark Stranger) $55,000 (Lex) (Brown)  $0 (n/s)
Where’s Papi (c, Papi Rob Hanover) $45,000 (Lex) (Brown) $0 (0)
Blossom (f, Tall Dark Stranger) $50,000 (Lex) (Per Engblom) $0 (3)
Catch Up To Me (c, Catch The Fire) $30,000 (Jug) (Brown) $0 (n/s)
Sea Cruise (c, Downbytheseaside) $40,000 (Jug) (Brown) $0 (1)
Grooved Pavement (c, Long Tom) $40,000 (Jug) (Beaver) $0 (4)
Two Levy’s (c, Keystone Velocity) $0 (n/s)

thank you for the report great job