Who is the best horseman you ever knew personally?

[Kirby's Ace]

Pete Wathen Sr   rip

[Wild bull]

I have a couple of Fred's recipes for tightener and sweat.

.   Good for you asshole now go drink a few gallons of it

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Larry stalbaum you guys can say it's the juice but work for him a week and you'll learn more that week then in a lifetime anywhere else

If Stalbaum is the best you know, that says more about you than him dick breath. He's been thrown out of every track he's ever raced at. BTW..When are you going to get that coat hanger removed from your head?

[The Exporter]

Fred Bradbury mentioned twice. I am surprised. Not by Fred's skill and knowledge but to be the best someone ever knew. I met Fred in 1977 in Aiken, SC. He was long past his prime and working as the track superintendent. Fred was special person to me. He took his time and always came by to see how I was doing. Many people were judgmental of Fred. They would have nothing good to say about his habits and demons. But, everyone would end the conversation with, "despite all that, he is one hell of a hosemen".

[Wild bull]

If Stalbaum is the best you know, that says more about you than him dick breath. He's been thrown out of every track he's ever raced at. BTW..When are you going to get that coat hanger removed from your head?

.  Larry has probably forgotten more than you'll ever know cuntbag yes he's been kicked out of places but it's been awhile and he's still making money hell I bet his daughter has made more in this business than you dummy

[rainman2]

.  Larry has probably forgotten more than you'll ever know cuntbag yes he's been kicked out of places but it's been awhile and he's still making money hell I bet his daughter has made more in this business than you dummy

Correct. I asked a Saratoga trainer that a while ago. The only thing Larry does he that he has his own “special feed”program. Watch how his horses race in cycles. At least Larry isn’t afraid to drive one compared to some others in the business.

[kooter for hipin]

Jimmy Cruise

Frank T Ace.....Jimmy Cruise       

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Frank T Ace.....Jimmy Cruise       

Nice horse. Was sub 2:00 when it was special.

[kooter for hipin]

Nice horse. Was sub 2:00 when it was special.

Owned by Saul Finklestone et al.  I think.  That was my era at Roosevelt and Yonkers.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Owned by Saul Finklestone et al.  I think.  That was my era at Roosevelt and Yonkers.

Well, then you are in your mid 70's like me.

[wizardofoz]

William "Bib" Roberts knows his onions!

[Sam R]

Larry Stahlbaum is pretty good in my book. As a driver he can tell you something after a race.

[tumbleweed]

Correct. I asked a Saratoga trainer that a while ago. The only thing Larry does he that he has his own “special feed”program. Watch how his horses race in cycles. At least Larry isn’t afraid to drive one compared to some others in the business.

Also helps that his biggest owner is a well respected vet.

[hoosierboy]

Tony Morgan

[kooter for hipin]

Well, then you are in your mid 70's like me.

78 and of the same mind!