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Gaagoots

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Everybody thought Pelling was a genius only to find out he was using a box of soda before anybody else.

A good trainer knows lameness and feeds a horse properly, also doesn’t over train.

95% of them are just gassers now.

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Everybody thought Pelling was a genius only to find out he was using a box of soda before anybody else.

A good trainer knows lameness and feeds a horse properly, also doesn’t over train.

95% of them are just gassers now.

Wait a minute here. This is not a SCM thread. WTF are you doing posting here!

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Everybody thought Pelling was a genius only to find out he was using a box of soda before anybody else.

A good trainer knows lameness and feeds a horse properly, also doesn’t over train.

95% of them are just gassers now.

Can you please name a few trainers in the other 5%??

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Can you please name a few trainers in the other 5%??

Thats a good question. How many could there be?
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I don’t think it matters if it’s a top trainer with a stakes horse or a blue collar trainer with an overnight horse. In my experience it comes down to the owner being financially disciplined, if a top trainer goes to the owner,”Said horse is off needs to be shut down for a bit “, that’s the owner’s decision because there paying the bills. Most of the time owners response will be said horse is heavy staked , don’t want to miss up coming stakes, is it that serious can’t we work through it. Blue collar trainer with an overnight horse for and average owner, get slightly different response but same general sentiment, is it that serious horse is racing good can’t we work through it.
Wether it be top stakes horse or overnighters both categories of trainers would like to keep racing but the majority of trainers in both categories know that if they do the outcome with out rest will be negative.
At the end of the day 70% of the trainers , top trainers or blue collar, have the conversation with the owner and it’s their decision because they’re paying the bill.
Comes down to financial discipline on the owner’s behalf.

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In my experience, the difference between the top trainers and average ones is about $2500 per month in vet bills and about $40 per day in their day rate.

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Wait a minute here. This is not a SCM thread. WTF are you doing posting here!

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Gaagoots

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Can you please name a few trainers in the other 5%??
hummm that’s a good question Rainman…

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The better barns also attract the best caretakers due to the fact that they have everything they want to care for the horse. Besides that they never worry about pay glitches or rarely getting win bonuses!  tmbz1

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Ther difference between 75.00 -175.00 per day. thats the difference.
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Top trainers use a 2nd trainer to admin the go go juice.

Average ones do it their self.
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Ther difference between 75.00 -175.00 per day. thats the difference.

Wow, my trainer doesn't charge these rates and I consider him one of those 5% trainers that is listed on an earlier post here!
At 175/day I should own a t-bred at the Saratoga meet and race for big $$$

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Wow, my trainer doesn't charge these rates and I consider him one of those 5% trainers that is listed on an earlier post here!
At 175/day I should own a t-bred at the Saratoga meet and race for big $$$

Baffert is almost 300.00 per day
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Baffert is almost 300.00 per day

So my standardbred trainer who is in the best 5% of trainers from the previous post and less than 75/day is a bargain!

 

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