Author Topic: What the difference between a top notch trainer and an average one besides cost?  (Read 5672 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Gaagoots

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4791
Everybody thought Pelling was a genius only to find out he was using a box of soda before anybody else.

A good trainer knows lameness and feeds a horse properly, also doesn’t over train.

95% of them are just gassers now.

Kirbys Ace

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2706
Everybody thought Pelling was a genius only to find out he was using a box of soda before anybody else.

A good trainer knows lameness and feeds a horse properly, also doesn’t over train.

95% of them are just gassers now.

Wait a minute here. This is not a SCM thread. WTF are you doing posting here!

 73cv.2
SCM getting ready for the big race!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruQryPkB5w0

SCM Harness Racing new Pope!
https://www.youtube.com/live/n1mA_lT3WMI

rainman2

  • Living Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 22028
Everybody thought Pelling was a genius only to find out he was using a box of soda before anybody else.

A good trainer knows lameness and feeds a horse properly, also doesn’t over train.

95% of them are just gassers now.

Can you please name a few trainers in the other 5%??

Generation XYZ

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3573
  • HARNESS RACING IS DEAD, CALL THE CORONER!
Can you please name a few trainers in the other 5%??

Thats a good question. How many could there be?
Pay to Play, Play to Win!

White Rabbit

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 578
I don’t think it matters if it’s a top trainer with a stakes horse or a blue collar trainer with an overnight horse. In my experience it comes down to the owner being financially disciplined, if a top trainer goes to the owner,”Said horse is off needs to be shut down for a bit “, that’s the owner’s decision because there paying the bills. Most of the time owners response will be said horse is heavy staked , don’t want to miss up coming stakes, is it that serious can’t we work through it. Blue collar trainer with an overnight horse for and average owner, get slightly different response but same general sentiment, is it that serious horse is racing good can’t we work through it.
Wether it be top stakes horse or overnighters both categories of trainers would like to keep racing but the majority of trainers in both categories know that if they do the outcome with out rest will be negative.
At the end of the day 70% of the trainers , top trainers or blue collar, have the conversation with the owner and it’s their decision because they’re paying the bill.
Comes down to financial discipline on the owner’s behalf.

BoKnows

  • Top Claimer
  • ***
  • Posts: 235
In my experience, the difference between the top trainers and average ones is about $2500 per month in vet bills and about $40 per day in their day rate.

Gaagoots

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4791
Wait a minute here. This is not a SCM thread. WTF are you doing posting here!

 73cv.2
😂😂

Gaagoots

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4791
Can you please name a few trainers in the other 5%??
hummm that’s a good question Rainman…

Mailbox Money

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1231
The better barns also attract the best caretakers due to the fact that they have everything they want to care for the horse. Besides that they never worry about pay glitches or rarely getting win bonuses!  tmbz1

panhunter

  • 4 claimer
  • **
  • Posts: 85

Generation XYZ

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3573
  • HARNESS RACING IS DEAD, CALL THE CORONER!
Ther difference between 75.00 -175.00 per day. thats the difference.
Pay to Play, Play to Win!

Kirbys Ace

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2706
Top trainers use a 2nd trainer to admin the go go juice.

Average ones do it their self.
SCM getting ready for the big race!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruQryPkB5w0

SCM Harness Racing new Pope!
https://www.youtube.com/live/n1mA_lT3WMI

rainman2

  • Living Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 22028
Ther difference between 75.00 -175.00 per day. thats the difference.

Wow, my trainer doesn't charge these rates and I consider him one of those 5% trainers that is listed on an earlier post here!
At 175/day I should own a t-bred at the Saratoga meet and race for big $$$

Generation XYZ

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3573
  • HARNESS RACING IS DEAD, CALL THE CORONER!
Wow, my trainer doesn't charge these rates and I consider him one of those 5% trainers that is listed on an earlier post here!
At 175/day I should own a t-bred at the Saratoga meet and race for big $$$

Baffert is almost 300.00 per day
Pay to Play, Play to Win!

rainman2

  • Living Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 22028
Baffert is almost 300.00 per day

So my standardbred trainer who is in the best 5% of trainers from the previous post and less than 75/day is a bargain!

 

shout out

Refresh History
  • Sound off !
  • kantseeback: I personally knew the exersize rider for Ruffian, her first name was Johanna
    Today at 08:57:01 AM
  • Harness Racing Revolution: [link]
    July 07, 2025, 11:08:05 AM
  • Trigger: RIP Michael Madsen
    July 06, 2025, 10:11:21 PM
  • Kirbys Ace: What a great filly she was.
    July 06, 2025, 08:52:44 PM
  • Calhoun: Ruffian... 50 years ago today
    July 06, 2025, 07:44:16 PM
  • dougie: Got chicken and bet $10WP onWP on Horacio De Paz'shorse who won at 8-1. I love the trainer, but was afraid of the layoff. Coming back strong with $20Win and $60 Place on #7Elegant in the 7th at the Spa.
    July 06, 2025, 04:28:04 PM
  • dougie: Wound up winning $379 yesterday at the Spa and making my first bet here in the 3rd. Big jockey upgrade to Irad on the #2 Fantasy Performerin the 3rd. Trainer Serpe very underated.
    July 06, 2025, 02:20:44 PM
  • dougie: Thanks Trigger!!!!!I'm not a really big gambler. But I love the Spa!
    July 06, 2025, 01:59:34 PM
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal