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HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« on: November 12, 2018, 09:46:23 PM »
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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 10:34:17 PM »
All the gamblers will be dead

J bong still juicing them

Bobby somolin son.. Rollin, yes that is the poor kids name, will be leading groom and warm up driver
gonna start a syndicate betting balmoral, who wants to invest?

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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 10:41:32 PM »
No real horses, just robots, driverless. Really, in 20 years I expect the number of tracks to be 50% less than today. Little guy will be a dinosaur. No more place and show betting. Game is dying a slow death.

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 10:59:20 PM »
All that will remain are mile and 7/8 mile tracks. And pompano of course but that track will be down to racing walkovers.

The 1/2 mile and 5/8 tracks  will be replaced by sports books and slots. If industry is lucky, one or two of these tracks may be influenced (quid pro quo for getting sports  books and more slots)to aquire  mile locations which will keep the industry going for another 25 yrs.

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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2018, 11:13:40 PM »
All the gamblers will be dead

J bong still juicing them

Bobby somolin son.. Rollin, yes that is the poor kids name, will be leading groom and warm up driver
No freaking way that kid's still alive in 20 years! Ira however, will still be alive, still mooching off of JB and his millions.

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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2018, 12:52:18 AM »
No real horses, just robots, driverless. Really, in 20 years I expect the number of tracks to be 50% less than today. Little guy will be a dinosaur. No more place and show betting. Game is dying a slow death.

New Hampshire tried that a few years ago as an alternative to casino gambling. Bettors would wager on horse races raced in the past from Rockingham. As with casino gambling, never passed.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2018, 07:07:16 AM »
Hopefully there will be major contraction and the most "successful" tracks will have "super" meets that run for 6-8 weeks. Perhaps eliminating the overwhelming amount of different wagers will make it less confusing to the novice bettor or a newcomer. I know neither will happen , but I can dream.
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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2018, 08:43:28 AM »
harness racing will probably only exist as a video game on x-box.

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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2018, 08:44:28 AM »
There are MANY owners/breeders/trainers, etc. in this business that are up there in age-- 50+ if not older.  Once they leave the scene, who will pick up the slack?


millenials have zero interest in harness racing
there is your answer?

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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2018, 09:51:53 AM »

millenials have zero interest in harness racing
there is your answer?

The "degenerate" gene is still passed down from dad. I know many millenials already hooked on harness.

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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2018, 10:14:54 AM »
harness racing will probably only exist as a video game on x-box.

As stupid as this may sound. If you want to engage the younger generation and get their attention, that thinking is the correct approach. These kids live in a virtual world, so how do you translate that into Harness Racing to spur their interest. Everyone agrees we need bettors, but you need to get them in the building or to at least watch and understand the game first. The technology exists to make the business more interactive.
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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2018, 10:24:37 AM »
First u need :


Massive Comps   (as the casinos offer...buffets.. Free Play)


If u donot have the freebies u are deadwood....



Also...all the old plants need to be shuttered.....


they need NEW infrastructure with sportsbars,casinos,

entertainment,sportsbooks, etcetc


The "old" harness tracks ...???  it is over



Elvis has left the building....


This is 2018      soon 2019......


ONly a few track operators have a clue.....


and ...luv him or not ....Jeff Gural is a visionary....


Stop by at Tioga Downs....and see what a racetrack


should look like.....or Pocono Downs......


Hotel, Casino, restaurants, Sportsbars,  etc etc


Modern......no 1940's motif.....the young crowd


wants glitz....


As one 20 something said.....


"who wants to waste an evening watching dumb horses go round in circles???

  BORRRRRRRRRINGGGG GGGGG.   "


lots of city kids are inti upscale eats, sushi bars etc....


cutting edge restaurants.....


Have u been to BRooklyn NY lately???


Unbelievable what is going on.....

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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2018, 11:47:45 AM »
Gotta find a way to parlay link a now legal sports bet with a horse race to generate interest...it would force any generation of sports bettor to pay attention to a horse track, even at a small introductory level.
ie..maybe exclusively on saturdays to start.. 330p et college football game with say, the delmar feature..both results hit about 630p et.  Would create excitement...and/or which you could parlay maybe that night's 730p nba start. Milwaukee and Toronto with meadowlands feature, both results hitting around 10p et.
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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2018, 11:50:39 AM »
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Re: HARNESS IN 20 YRS,,,WHATS GONNA CHANGE
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2018, 12:00:16 PM »
Bottom line......



   wagering on harness races has fallen out of favour....



    the only players are   60 over crowd.....


    have u seen the evening simulcast players ???



     It is like a welfare office....or retirement village....


     and this.....???    will support the Industry????



      Surely, u jest????


     watching a few harness races for the crowd that is into it

    is great.....but few care anymore......


    Even the Tbreds Belmont and Aqu  gets a smaller

    crowd than old days.....

    Interest just not there....and most have busted out...


    With the ridiculous 26 and 27 opening quarters that

     the drivers go.....the product is unhandicapable... ....


     so ....players have moved on......quite simple.


     U used to be able to actually handicap YR.....


     A   3-5   or 2-5 would win a good 85% of the time...


    NOt so now....they lose 1/2 the time.....way overbet.


   

 

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