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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2018, 11:14:11 PM »
i think there will be some mitigating circumstances that arise soon
Of course.   Have you ever heard a trainer say “damn, you guys caught me”?

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2018, 11:15:28 PM »
Horse had a hip replacement?

no

thats titanium

cobalt is widely used for battery
it doesnt conduct electric and is a great shell

its in high demand
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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2018, 11:17:32 PM »
i think there will be some mitigating circumstances that arise soon

You all know theres Cobalt in horse feed, right? ,

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2018, 11:18:36 PM »
You all know theres Cobalt in horse feed, right? ,

It's a trace element. A horse would probably have to eat like 20 pounds of hay to raise its cobalt levels.

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2018, 11:20:44 PM »
It's a trace element. A horse would probably have to eat like 20 pounds of hay to raise its cobalt levels.

exactly

there is some naturally in the feed but not nearly close to the threshold

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2018, 11:24:35 PM »
no

thats titanium

cobalt is widely used for battery
it doesnt conduct electric and is a great shell

its in high demand

oh wait it is a conductor

interesting

i was always told it wasnt

my bad

okdfool

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2018, 12:04:46 AM »
It's a trace element. A horse would probably have to eat like 20 pounds of hay to raise its cobalt levels.

I'm talking about feed, not hay, ...

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2018, 12:13:29 AM »
exactly

there is some naturally in the feed but not nearly close to the threshold

Not 'naturally', it's listed as a ingredient on the bag, that means it was put in the feed mixture manualy,   and who gets to dictate what a horses 'threshold' is?  They are all different,  one can be dehydrated , and another not,  everything in the 'feed' can effect each horse differently.   

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2018, 12:24:28 AM »
Dan is one of the poster boys in Ohio.

WAIT A MINUTE !!!
  This guy has been in the business for 40 years.  He's a well respected horseman, as some of you point out.  Slow down the accusations  -  if he decided to go to the dark side - he'd be light years ahead of these half-ass cheaters.   All of us know that these unscrupulous trainers that trampoline a horse after a week are the real scoundrels. So, knock it off !

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2018, 01:06:36 AM »
He maybe one of the good guys but the commission came up with a threshold that's far enough from the environment numbers to not be a contaminate. So that it came in over..it is a over. Why doesn't the horse have to sit three weeks like other places and then test clean before next start? This was a 2 yr old trot filly that's in to go tomorrow for 275k. So do the other owners in that race have a beef?

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2018, 02:10:42 AM »

WAIT A MINUTE !!!
  This guy has been in the business for 40 years.  He's a well respected horseman, as some of you point out.  Slow down the accusations  -  if he decided to go to the dark side - he'd be light years ahead of these half-ass cheaters.   All of us know that these unscrupulous trainers that trampoline a horse after a week are the real scoundrels. So, knock it off !

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2018, 03:08:08 PM »
You'll have trouble finding a trainer thats  say “damn, you guys caught me”?

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2018, 03:31:49 PM »

WAIT A MINUTE !!!
  This guy has been in the business for 40 years.  He's a well respected horseman, as some of you point out.  Slow down the accusations  -  if he decided to go to the dark side - he'd be light years ahead of these half-ass cheaters.   All of us know that these unscrupulous trainers that trampoline a horse after a week are the real scoundrels. So, knock it off !

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Stop sniffing glue already you incompetent fucktard. He uses it. Why he got a positive. 2 years ago he was claiming horses left and right and launching them with concrete hands driving them. Ya good horseman my balls. What's good for the goose.....

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2018, 03:50:23 PM »
Not 'naturally', it's listed as a ingredient on the bag, that means it was put in the feed mixture manualy,   and who gets to dictate what a horses 'threshold' is?  They are all different,  one can be dehydrated , and another not,  everything in the 'feed' can effect each horse differently.   

There's no reason to have cobalt supplemented in a diet unless the horse is B12 deficient so why is it even in the feed at all?

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Re: 9/7/2018 Fines and Suspensions
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2018, 05:26:32 PM »
There's no reason to have cobalt supplemented in a diet unless the horse is B12 deficient so why is it even in the feed at all?

I totally agree, and if it's so bad for them then why manufacturers put it in their food?

 

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