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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2026, 03:45:10 PM »
How are you going to determine if a trainer is cheating?
It's already known that not every illegal substance shows up on a test.

When you take the photos in the winner's circle, do you ask any questions?


Pacer2 uses the argument there's cheating in all sports, and the cheaters get caught, same goes for trainers. It's either being totally naive or stupid because as you say, not all illegal substances show up on tests.

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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2026, 03:50:59 PM »
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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2026, 05:07:49 PM »

Pacer2 uses the argument there's cheating in all sports, and the cheaters get caught, same goes for trainers. It's either being totally naive or stupid because as you say, not all illegal substances show up on tests.

Let’s wind the clock back 50+ years.
The East German swimmers on steroids in the Olympics.
The tragedy horses in the sakes that were built like linebackers. 
Lance Armstrong getting caught.
In each case this took time to be caught and dealt with.

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« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2026, 06:10:10 PM »
Correcting the typos. 

The Teague horses and quite a few others in the sales years ago that were built like linebackers and quickly crashed to earth after they weren’t in their program anymore.   

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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2026, 09:56:34 PM »
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« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2026, 10:29:44 PM »
Let’s wind the clock back 50+ years.
The East German swimmers on steroids in the Olympics.
The tragedy horses in the sakes that were built like linebackers. 
Lance Armstrong getting caught.
In each case this took time to be caught and dealt with.

Same in MLB. While true, what is worse is when we see the blind eye, the deaf ear, and these things being swept under the rug. Lance Armstrong is the perfect example. JMO, but I think McGuire/Sosa same thing. Bob Baffert's positive in the SA Derby? Enough. No more. The sport and the industry needs to be overhauled and in many cases reconstructed. Very rocky road to get there, but it will happen.

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« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2026, 10:34:12 PM »
Same in MLB. While true, what is worse is when we see the blind eye, the deaf ear, and these things being swept under the rug. Lance Armstrong is the perfect example. JMO, but I think McGuire/Sosa same thing. Bob Baffert's positive in the SA Derby? Enough. No more. The sport and the industry needs to be overhauled and in many cases reconstructed. Very rocky road to get there, but it will happen.

You call yourself a Journalist, you're a fucking cowardly cunt.

Not one word about Ron Burke.

Scumbag.

You too.

You're just another that preys off racing, but when the shit hits the fan, nada.

Why the fuck are you here anyway you panzy.

You complain about the element here at plop, but Ron Burke nada.

Live with yourself, you detestable coward and journalist cover up artist.

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« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2026, 11:18:33 PM »
You call yourself a Journalist, you're a fucking cowardly cunt.

Not one word about Ron Burke.

Scumbag.

You too.

You're just another that preys off racing, but when the shit hits the fan, nada.

Why the fuck are you here anyway you panzy.

You complain about the element here at plop, but Ron Burke nada.

Live with yourself, you detestable coward and journalist cover up artist.

I'm no fan of Burke. Unless it's some exotic, designer drug that has no place on the racetrack/farm, I have no problem with a trainer appealing a suspension. There MUST be uniform, universal standard rules that apply everywhere and have reciprocity. If you don't have that, your model is a joke. I also have no problem on a first offense taking the days when it's convenient. Forcing a trainer to take a suspension when he has a horse in a stakes race is not the answer in my mind. Too much potential collateral damage. Second offense, force the trainer to take the days during the meet where the positive occured and have every state honor it. Third offense, immediate suspension. Any penalty is deferred during an appeal, but lengthened if found guilty. Something along these lines.

However, this is going to be very difficult and will cost more than current to inforce. Backstretch and farms. Even if horses are coming from authorized, governed training centers, it's hard to police and govern them. But the industry must.

I admire Gural for everything he's done. However, I don't think he played fair when it came to Burke, and possibly another of his trainers. I want to see the details before I say he was wrong. I don't buy into the race office needs so and so to fill the entry box. I also don't buy into nobody wants to go against so and so because he'll boycott your overnight races. People said the same thing about David Brooks and the market would fall apart if he sold all his horses. People are saying similar things about Howard Taylor. There is no one owner, not even Burke and his partners, who are bigger than the business or the sport. If someone ever does become bigger, then you no longer have a sport of a business.

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« Reply #68 on: Today at 03:33:35 AM »
All addressed here Dingus, to you both, thanks  tmbz1

https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=85580.msg1292612#msg1292612

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« Reply #69 on: Today at 01:12:37 PM »
Lucpark promised some action by Monday.  We’ll see what, if anything, transpires regarding this subject.
I have a feeling nothing will change.

 

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