Can Beau Jangles beat 4 others Sunday?

[Lance]

Yes weak maternal line on Beau Jangles....


Dam was at best a mediocre race horse

Raced 35 starts over 4 years....

Made $35,000

Rich N Elegant only won five races, had a mark of 1:56:4 and sold to Hanover for $12,000. 

[captaintreacherous]

Captains Quarters Family


1. Precious Beauty (The Foundation Dam)
If you are looking at the legendary mother of the family, Precious Beauty (by Jate Lobell) produced 12 to 14 foals, virtually all of whom turned out to be exceptional earners. Her standout progeny include:

Sportswriter ($1,566,460) – World champion, Dan Patch & O'Brien Award winner, and winner of the North America Cup.

Precocious Beauty ($838,004) – Dan Patch & O'Brien Award-winning 2-year-old pacing filly of the Year (who later became the dam of mega-star pacing stallion Tall Dark Stranger [$2,020,195]).

Prescient Beauty (her daughter)

2. Prescient Beauty (The Daughter & Broodmare)
Prescient Beauty (p, 2, 1:50.4, $464,250) was a high-class racehorse herself—winning major stakes like the Three Diamonds at age 2. As she transitioned into a broodmare career, she has produced multiple registered foals, including:

Captain's Quarters – A standout stakes-level performer (including winning the Metro Pace) sired by Captaintreacherou s...earning $1 Million(CA) in limited starts.

Readyforprimetime – A high-profile yearling colt (by Bettor's Delight) that commanded $500,000 at the Lexington Selected Sale.




Comparing the  weak maternal line of Beau Jangles to the

 above would be insanity.

  NIjinsky also had super maternal line....

[captaintreacherous]

The dam of the Standardbred pacer Nijinsky is Pirouette Hanover (sired by Western Ideal).  Dam: Pirouette Hanover......Foal s produced:

She has produced numerous foals (with records indicating multiple previous foals, including at least 9 to 13 living foals and multiple winners such as Pedro Hanover, Paparazzi Hanover, and Nijinsky himself)

[captaintreacherous]

If you go back far enough on many horses you will find

one really good mare way back...

That doesnot, in my opinion classify as a great

maternal line..

When you look at Captains Quarters..the names in the

family are off the charts...

Tall Dark Stranger, Sportswriter, Prescient Beauty,

Downbytheseaside, Swingtown....the list goes on and on.

Family winnings are approaching $15 Million usd!!!

Very Rare to see this.


compared to the maternal line and family of Beau Jangles...


well....there is no comparison......l ogically.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

What % decrease in stud value do you suggest if he was syndicated last year until waiting until this year? 50%? Which 3 year old pacer would you breed to next year for free if given the chance?

To answer your first question.....it would be massive! With the numbers that were being thrown around last year (no, not the nonsense/BS here, but at the sales, by some of the big farms who were courting the connections of BJ), it would have been a debacle of a deal. If BJ was syndicated last year, it wouldn't be the first time a bust happened. It's happened before. No one was a bigger fan of BJ than me. I thought he had the potential to be truly a great horse-----one that could, potentially, go down as one of the great ones-----but I wasn't making that a fait accompli. Unfortunately, this year the horse simply didn't come back as expected, hoped, etc., he got sick, the rest of the class caught up to him, he didn't keep progressing, and so on. As far as your second question.....zero . I am not impressed anywhere near enough with any 3yo this year to breed a mare to next year. I don't see any real, legitimate, major stallions out there in this year's crop.

[Brown jug]

good info guys
hopefully it can continue without the thread getting hijacked
i agree with the comments on the maternal lines , beau is not strong
however grandstand i would consider brandon blvd as a potential sire
his record at 2 and so far at 3 is very impressive , also lets be honest if he does not draw 8 in his elim and 10 in the final, he wins the na cup as well
he is a son of downbytheseaside , another successful son of sbsw
his dam is alexis  faith ( american ideal) who was an exceptional race mare herself, her first foal was a tds who was good, brandon is her second foal , full brother born in 2024
the second dam is cannae cammie , also an exceptional race mare , she is the dam of test of faith ($2.5m) in addition to alexis faith and a few other good ones, this family will  make more noise in the coming years

overall i feel certain that if brandon blvd continues to do well in 2026 he will stand in 2027 somewhere
he has the on track performance and pedigree to warrant it

[Sweet]

good info guys
hopefully it can continue without the thread getting hijacked

Why don't you hijack a piece of pussy, long long long over due and stuffed up 

The have a nice site called Paceadvantage, nice people - the nicest zzzzzzzzzz  , no hijacking, all 47 supporters, they were crying because you're here and not there 

[SeattleSlew]

I don't see any real, legitimate, major stallions out there in this year's crop.

I am assuming you mean on the pacing side.  Trotting side is a powerhouse led by Apex, and nobody can diss his bloodlines!!

[Lance]

I am assuming you mean on the pacing side.  Trotting side is a powerhouse led by Apex, and nobody can diss his bloodlines!!

Good point.  Winning the Hambo with his bloodlines, what is his fee for his first year.  Got to be at least $25 - $30k.

[captaintreacherous]

and the sire of Brandon Blvd?


Yes...Downbythese aside.....


from the family of Metro Winner and NA Cup Runnerup


Captains Quarters...


who may be one of the most underrated new stallions

in the sport...next to Nijinsky...


and yes we know he is a Bettors Delight....


while CQ is a CT

[Grandstand Handicapper]

however grandstand i would consider brandon blvd as a potential sire
his record at 2 and so far at 3 is very impressive , also lets be honest if he does not draw 8 in his elim and 10 in the final, he wins the na cup as well
he is a son of downbytheseaside , another successful son of sbsw
his dam is alexis  faith ( american ideal) who was an exceptional race mare herself, her first foal was a tds who was good, brandon is her second foal , full brother born in 2024
the second dam is cannae cammie , also an exceptional race mare , she is the dam of test of faith ($2.5m) in addition to alexis faith and a few other good ones, this family will  make more noise in the coming years

overall i feel certain that if brandon blvd continues to do well in 2026 he will stand in 2027 somewhere
he has the on track performance and pedigree to warrant it

Yeah, I did think about him. Jeez, how can you not, LOL. So, for me, I only breed one or two mares a year, and I breed to sell. I also don't keep mares very long. His "stats" and resume, and all that have the makings of a stallion. But I don't breed for that or because of that. He does have a good, solid, pedigree, and more importantly, a strong "family" (good foundation and back, current performers, past, and so on). He must have-----he sold for $425k as a yearling! LOL. I saw him at the sale, and I saw him up close at 2 and 3, and he absolutely grew from 2 to 3. He will make a stallion somewhere. He's the top prospect I would suspect. However, for me, he's not the hot, big buzz, have to look at, first crop stallion. Whether he'll be a good stallion or not, that's a conversation for another time, LOL.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I am assuming you mean on the pacing side.  Trotting side is a powerhouse led by Apex, and nobody can diss his bloodlines!!

Yes, I was only speaking to the pacing side. Apex is one of those sons of a WC out of a WC.....who actually made it! LOL. Aside from that, he has a very strong, commercial and performer strong family. You are absolutely right-----super strong bloodlines!

[Kenny]

Why don't you hijack a piece of pussy, long long long over due and stuffed up 

The have a nice site called Paceadvantage, nice people - the nicest zzzzzzzzzz  , no hijacking, all 47 supporters, they were crying because you're here and not there 

Typical.