I remember when Pena was winning everything. Some friends and I were at the Kahuna Wedge bar. There was a big burly guy drinking beer. He was talking to another guy. He said that he had a good 2 year old trotter. His comment was if I race against this Pena guy and lose....I'll kick his ass. There is no way this cheat will be stealing from me. It was amusing and have no idea who his horse, trainer, or if ever raced against Lou.