New Rule. You dont show at Meadowlands Pace and Jug your are out

[captaintreacherous]

It's really nonsense that these Top horses donot show up at the

Jug..

They need their "Blankee" cause the HMT and (2) heats

too tough..


Beau Jangles impressed me until someone mentioned he was

basically a Canada Sire Stakes horse...and now skipped

the Pace in NJ.....If he is a No Show in Jug....it will be

a writeoff horse.

Cant sit at home beating weaker.....in Sire Stakes

padding your earnings..

and this was the Horse of the Year in our sport ??

Great horse...so lets see him race!!!!!

[Kenny]

It's really nonsense that these Top horses donot show up at the

Jug..

They need their "Blankee" cause the HMT and (2) heats

too tough..


Beau Jangles impressed me until someone mentioned he was

basically a Canada Sire Stakes horse...and now skipped

the Pace in NJ.....If he is a No Show in Jug....it will be

a writeoff horse.

Cant sit at home beating weaker.....in Sire Stakes

padding your earnings..

and this was the Horse of the Year in our sport ??

Great horse...so lets see him race!!!!!

The whiners cry they can't go two heats and might get an outside post. The duel eligible in KY has made it even worse.

[Brown jug]

total agreement fella
horses today are considered far superior to even 5-10 years ago
but they cant go to Delaware and race 2 heats ??
they feel the need to baby these 3 yr olds late in the season
but the same owners /trainers blast the shit out of them in june/july of their 2 yr old season
like it or not the jug is the only place the sport gets 40,000 people to watch the races
it should be more of a festival of racing spread over more days having al the best horses there  for at least 3 days
the sport continually shots itself in the foot
 

[mwins]

LOAD MANAGEMENT.

If it's good enough for the NBA....

[Rdp066]

It's really nonsense that these Top horses donot show up at the

Jug..

They need their "Blankee" cause the HMT and (2) heats

too tough..


Beau Jangles impressed me until someone mentioned he was

basically a Canada Sire Stakes horse...and now skipped

the Pace in NJ.....If he is a No Show in Jug....it will be

a writeoff horse.

Cant sit at home beating weaker.....in Sire Stakes

padding your earnings..

and this was the Horse of the Year in our sport ??

Great horse...so lets see him race!!!!!

"Your" out?  I think "you are" out of your fucking mind with stupidity writing like a fifth grade dropout.

[rainman2]

total agreement fella
horses today are considered far superior to even 5-10 years ago
but they cant go to Delaware and race 2 heats ??
they feel the need to baby these 3 yr olds late in the season
but the same owners /trainers blast the shit out of them in june/july of their 2 yr old season
like it or not the jug is the only place the sport gets 40,000 people to watch the races
it should be more of a festival of racing spread over more days having al the best horses there  for at least 3 days
the sport continually shots itself in the foot

Many years ago, you had no Pepsi North America Cup and Breeders Crown, so the Messenger, and the Jug were go to races for the money.  Priorities have changed.  More bigger races yield more competition coming out of the woodwork.  It's easy to map out a schedule of big races, actually racing them all is a more difficult thing to accomplish!

[Stan durbread]

It's really nonsense that these Top horses donot show up at the

Jug..

They need their "Blankee" cause the HMT and (2) heats

too tough..




Beau Jangles impressed me until someone mentioned he was

basically a Canada Sire Stakes horse...and now skipped

the Pace in NJ.....If he is a No Show in Jug....it will be

a writeoff horse.

Cant sit at home beating weaker.....in Sire Stakes

padding your earnings..

and this was the Horse of the Year in our sport ??

Great horse...so lets see him race!!!!!

So you are saying only Ontario Sired show up for the Metro and Breeders Crown?  You obviously just started watching harness racing a couple months back

[Kenny]

Many years ago, you had no Pepsi North America Cup and Breeders Crown, so the Messenger, and the Jug were go to races for the money.  Priorities have changed.  More bigger races yield more competition coming out of the woodwork.  It's easy to map out a schedule of big races, actually racing them all is a more difficult thing to accomplish!

The Breeders Crown has existed for 42 years.

The North America Cup has existed for 43 years.

[rainman2]

The Breeders Crown has existed for 42 years.

The North America Cup has existed for 43 years.

Racing and mentalities have since the Breeders Crown and the Pepsi North American Cup have come along!  It isn't life and death to race the Jug anymore.  More money and opportunities elsewhere and on bigger sized tracks too!  The only reason people go to the Jug today is that they raised the purse money compared to years ago. 

[Kenny]

Racing and mentalities have since the Breeders Crown and the Pepsi North American Cup have come along!  It isn't life and death to race the Jug anymore.  More money and opportunities elsewhere and on bigger sized tracks too!  The only reason people go to the Jug today is that they raised the purse money compared to years ago.

It is the sire stakes and the woke attitude that has infiltrated many aspects of life including the horsemen. Take away the slots handouts and that goes a long way to fixing this.

[Brown jug]

the problem is horseman and owners all think short term, how can i make the most money in the shortest time
to hell with the overall good of the sport and its future
the sad thing is for most of these big trainers and owners they have more than enough money already
put your best horses in the jug/jugette and come enjoy a few days of fair racing, put on a show for 40,000 or more who show up.... man up , so you might draw an outside post , shit happens

[Lockedin with Pace]

Owning horses is an expensive proposition and people with cheaper horses rarely make money on the smaller circuits. Aside from the Grand Circuit horses, the ones making the most money are at Yonkers and in Ohio, mostly with overnight horses.

[rainman2]

the problem is horseman and owners all think short term, how can i make the most money in the shortest time
to hell with the overall good of the sport and its future
the sad thing is for most of these big trainers and owners they have more than enough money already
put your best horses in the jug/jugette and come enjoy a few days of fair racing, put on a show for 40,000 or more who show up.... man up , so you might draw an outside post , shit happens

Are most of the horsemen today the big guys or the little guys?

The little guys have to make sure they don't get financially hurt while the big guys don't have to worry!

Big difference of where you are in the business and where you want to go in the present as well as the future.

[Bitter Truth]

Brown Jug: I appreciate your love of The Jug but no way they draw 40k anymore.
Biggest crowd in North America harness racing, yes. 40k no

[LUCPARK]

The HEBREW TRACK OWNER has upset so many trainers and owners

Plus all his fees to race at that track

Many choose other options

THE BIG M PACE has lost its luster

Jeffrey has killed the  run and excitement out of racing at the bigm

Alwsys cryin about money

Upsets and makes people feel uncomfortable

It’s his track  but not run very well