Florida DeCoupling Bill PAsses State House 77-34

[Calhoun]

This is the Gulfstream sponsored bill.

It now goes to the Florida Senate.

If it becomes law Gulfstream can keep it's slots license and dump racing.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Highest and best use. It doesn't look pretty right now. The fact is money people beat or buy brains people and the horsemen don't have any brains anyway. Repole is tight with DeSantis but nobody knows if that will even make a difference. Stronach will consider every option to maximize the value of that land. Race at Palm Meadows? Build a new track in Ocala? Hialeah? Calder? Who tf knows. Not looking good for what could have been. Sign of the times.

Repole was right about one thing, if Stronach wanted to decouple to access capital markets and develop, the horsemen should have hired the best of the best and negotiated X years of X dates a year racing. She said she would have played ball. Who tf knows. The horsemen's association, and the members at the time, who ended up walking away, did and said nothing at all. The t-bred people do better than the harness people. We'll see.

[Racetime]

Anyone that's ever been to Plam Meadows knows it was built to have room for a Grandstand and parking lot. It's only about a half mile off the Fla Tpike.

[Checked Up]

NO doubt that Palm Meadows is a good place for a pari-mutual site,but the question I have is will they be able to draw enough patrons to sustain on racing alone?!

[Papillon]

Highest and best use. It doesn't look pretty right now. The fact is money people beat or buy brains people and the horsemen don't have any brains anyway. Repole is tight with DeSantis but nobody knows if that will even make a difference. Stronach will consider every option to maximize the value of that land. Race at Palm Meadows? Build a new track in Ocala? Hialeah? Calder? Who tf knows. Not looking good for what could have been. Sign of the times.

Repole was right about one thing, if Stronach wanted to decouple to access capital markets and develop, the horsemen should have hired the best of the best and negotiated X years of X dates a year racing. She said she would have played ball. Who tf knows. The horsemen's association, and the members at the time, who ended up walking away, did and said nothing at all. The t-bred people do better than the harness people. We'll see.

I thought they already did that

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[Trigger]

My thoughts on this, previously...as I live here and might have a better geographic pulse than those not, Rainman 2, maybe others of our kind also also...

https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=82361.msg1237901#msg1237901

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Anyone that's ever been to Plam Meadows knows it was built to have room for a Grandstand and parking lot. It's only about a half mile off the Fla Tpike.

NO doubt that Palm Meadows is a good place for a pari-mutual site,but the question I have is will they be able to draw enough patrons to sustain on racing alone?!

From what I have heard from the t-bred people: a) it would be strongly opposed (by the residents), and allegedly the town wasn't thrilled when Stronach floated the idea of PM being the permanent racetrack. It would also cost a fortune. Also, b) can you get the draw in Boynton Beach that you get in Hallandale Beach, and with a stand-alone track vs. what you currently have? I wouldn't know. Way above my pay grade, LOL.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I thought they already did that

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They did and yes, that exists in the current deal. When this whole debacle started last year when Stronach approached the horsemen's association about decoupling the track and the casino (so she could get money and develop)-----that is when the horsemen should have said, OK, you want to change the deal, then, so do we, and we are asking to change extend the guaranteed racing end date. Allegedly the horsemen asked for 10 years from the date of the agreement, she said no, and they said OK. That's what I was referring to. Their fault. They accepted a BS deal. That's why they ended up with a civil war and several members walked. Then you get a new, rival horsemen's association, and all the BS started. IMO, she said no, because she doesn't want to race any longer than she has to. The horsemen were stupid.

[Yonkers1A]

The end of Welfare racing is closing in

[Papillon]

They did and yes, that exists in the current deal. When this whole debacle started last year when Stronach approached the horsemen's association about decoupling the track and the casino (so she could get money and develop)-----that is when the horsemen should have said, OK, you want to change the deal, then, so do we, and we are asking to change extend the guaranteed racing end date. Allegedly the horsemen asked for 10 years from the date of the agreement, she said no, and they said OK. That's what I was referring to. Their fault. They accepted a BS deal. That's why they ended up with a civil war and several members walked. Then you get a new, rival horsemen's association, and all the BS started. IMO, she said no, because she doesn't want to race any longer than she has to. The horsemen were stupid.

I am fairly sure the horsemen knew there was no way in hell Belinda would give them a 10 year deal--so they "negotiated" a deal where they get 3 years notice--she said "ok"--then the horsemen grabbed the three year deal because they were in fear of 2026 being the last year

the land is too valuable--i feel the horsemen took what they could-- late in 2028 will be the end of Gulfstream