Harness Racing thriving

[Sweet]

If Harness Racing is thriving then why do they need the welfare money from the casinos  ?

This thread, like all of his threads and posts combine have proved to a certainty one thing for sure...

Pacer 2 is a harness racing bottom feeder.

At the very bottom with the piss & manure.

He's the lowest paid, volunteer twat at or on behalf of the USTA who continues to promote everything bad about racing like it's normalized proportionally in the world we live in.  He's also a regular type gambler.  A fucking socialist too.

I'm the recipient of his IGGYing me, I couldn't be more elated to trash this scumbag, lowlife with immunity...feels great!, and inspiring to continue to make this whole industry feel so uneasy they really start not sleeping well, make mistakes...

[Any1Left]

Trig,,, Think about it and yes you are a 100 percent right that the game is worse than dead but that is for the fans and no future fans in the future but for trainers and drivers and management the game is in great shape because they could care less about the fan or gambler and believe me they watch races and no that its a shit show and could care less and if management could do something their choice would be to get rid of me and you because they believe we are the problem,,,,,           One day it will be over and that is why unlike in harness history where it was generation after generation with people with the same last names and that is no longer the case with some of the biggest families like WAPLES and FILLION and LA CHANCE are not going to exist very soon,          Trig during the depression 99 percent of the people suffered but there was no depression for the CAPONE boys and it the same in racing with the only people getting up the rear is the gamblers.

[G]

        Saratoga just had their biggest opening day handle EVER!  Gabe Prewitt brings record handles wherever he goes. Successful horsemen are making fortunes! The game is in great shape despite the negative Nancys false claims.

Saratoga is doing just fine and I agree with you.

[Papillon]

ECONOMIC INDICATORS ON U.S. RACES
February 12, 2026: $3,065,719
                         2026          2025                % Change
Total Wagered   $118,152,118   $130,471,945   -9.44%

[Sweet]

ECONOMIC INDICATORS ON U.S. RACES
February 12, 2026: $3,065,719
                         2026          2025                % Change
Total Wagered   $118,152,118   $130,471,945   -9.44%

Pacer 2 will have the #'s on what even more corrupt thing went up +9.44 in revenue  and shame us all. 

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

ECONOMIC INDICATORS ON U.S. RACES
February 12, 2026: $3,065,719
                         2026          2025                % Change
Total Wagered   $118,152,118   $130,471,945   -9.44%

240 mil lost in last two years alone. But they all bang on state capital doors screaming for more welfare because they create jobs. Their worst nightmare is now the public and those politicians that were elected by them is being educated. Opening that can of worms with people asking why are they funding a criminal industry that uses living beings which are discarded like trash after the fact. While people are starving, homeless, veterans, etc who actually deserve a leg up. Not non stop welfare to fund a dead industry that does nothing to improve anything. Slowly the veil hiding what has been done for decades is being pulled back. It's called reality and accountability. Five years, that's the timeline. You'll have plenty to talk about here. 

[Sweet]

240 mil lost in last two years alone. But they all bang on state capital doors screaming for more welfare because they create jobs. Their worst nightmare is now the public and those politicians that were elected by them is being educated. Opening that can of worms with people asking why are they funding a criminal industry that uses living beings which are discarded like trash after the fact. While people are starving, homeless, veterans, etc who actually deserve a leg up. Not non stop welfare to fund a dead industry that does nothing to improve anything. Slowly the veil hiding what has been done for decades is being pulled back. It's called reality and accountability. Five years, that's the timeline. You'll have plenty to talk about here. 

Key people are paying off the key politicians, over and under the table...they only see green, never red, white and blue nor give a fuck about a horse.

[Stan durbread]

In 2025, $483,239,570 was distributed in purses in 33,412 races over 3,070 race days,
1.3 billion in handle.
For simple comparison in California alone 12 billion was handed out in food stamps. Let’s not compare an industry that provides jobs and tax revenue to simple welfare. The slots agreements are a tax on casinos not the public.

[Sweet]

In 2025, $483,239,570 was distributed in purses in 33,412 races over 3,070 race days,
1.3 billion in handle.
For simple comparison in California alone 12 billion was handed out in food stamps. Let’s not compare an industry that provides jobs and tax revenue to simple welfare. The slots agreements are a tax on casinos not the public.

Hey, It's my favorite big mouth coward who talks a large game but wouldn't put his money where that fucked up hole in his face is  ...i.e. Sylvia Hanover 

Shmucko the clown, MAGA is full of welfare - yup those trash pails too  ...SNAP, section 8, HUD don't come close to Corporate welfare that never seems to trickle back as they promise 

As for your fucking twatface friends we don't want the cheaters and druggers to starve  or lose their job  ...they deserve to be tortured to death. 

[dougie]

In 2025, $483,239,570 was distributed in purses in 33,412 races over 3,070 race days,
1.3 billion in handle.
For simple comparison in California alone 12 billion was handed out in food stamps. Let’s not compare an industry that provides jobs and tax revenue to simple welfare. The slots agreements are a tax on casinos not the public.

Stan, the question I always ask is " How many tracks would be able to actually thrive without some sort of help?" I think that while a few tracks might make it without the "help", most would not. And what is harness racing's prospects in the years ahead? No gambling "venture" can survive if it is viewed as corrupt. And while harness racing's poor "policing" of its fixers and horse abusers chases away new fans, the loyal old ones are getting less and less. Racing here in Maine, a once "thriving" example of small track racing, is in sad shape. I feel for the honest horseman trying to make a living in a sport very few people under the age of 50 really know. But harness racing's officials need only look in the mirror to see who's to blame for the demise of harness racing.

[Sweet]

Stan, the question I always ask is " How many tracks would be able to actually thrive without some sort of help?" I think that while a few tracks might make it without the "help", most would not. And what is harness racing's prospects in the years ahead? No gambling "venture" can survive if it is viewed as corrupt. And while harness racing's poor "policing" of its fixers and horse abusers chases away new fans, the loyal old ones are getting less and less. Racing here in Maine, a once "thriving" example of small track racing, is in sad shape. I feel for the honest horseman trying to make a living in a sport very few people under the age of 50 really know. But harness racing's officials need only look in the mirror to see who's to blame for the demise of harness racing.

Animal abuse, cruelty, cheating gamblers is not a job nor a living, it's a crime...a pack of inbred gypsy retards 

[dougie]

Animal abuse, cruelty, cheating gamblers is not a job nor a living, it's a crime...a pack of inbred gypsy retards 

I agree.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Saratoga is doing just fine and I agree with you.

That is cause you are 2 bozos who are too ignorant to know why saratoga broke records on opening day and haven't come close since

[Any1Left]

ECONOMIC INDICATORS ON U.S. RACES
February 12, 2026: $3,065,719
                         2026          2025                % Change
Total Wagered   $118,152,118   $130,471,945   -9.44%

Cmon PAP your smarter than this post as you know those stats are pure bullshit because ELITE taken away would make the stats real and then it becomes reality,    -9.44 Percent can not be true with the people including me who understand that they are dealing from the bottom of the deck and you cant win,    New people are told that a huge overlay is an underlay because its not trying and underlays are winning in droves and that is not what gamblers look for a 25 percent chop with only underlays being in position to win.

[Pacer 2]

  But harness racing's officials need only look in the mirror to see who's to blame for the demise of harness racing.

      What demise?  Horsemen and horses are making more than EVER!