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I might be in the minority but I find that the racing over the last 2 mos. Without the big guns is actually a much better product for wagering. I say this because you can toss out at least half of any field simply because the pilot is easy to identify as one that you really can’t bet.When the guns are here, literally every horse has a good quality driver aboard and you can never toss out a horse because of a substandard driver being on board. This concept applies to the amateur races as well as many of them are auto tosses.Curious if anyone one else agrees with this?
If you enjoy watching slightly better than Freehold quality racing with "B" "C" "D" and amateur drivers then I'm happy for you. I find the product almost unwatchable and rarely bet it.
This is how everyone feels, No one wants to look at 4 races a day were the 3/5 horse ran 8 beaten 22 and dropping to get in a class with other horses that are coming off dismal races and by the end of the race from first to last you need a telescope, Northfield and Mohawk always start the first race with with a 2/5 horse that is dropping into a non winners of a peanut and these horses seem to win with ease against other horse that have been fading in their past races, Open a program up from 15 years ago and these racist did not exist at the top tracks but if you do like races were most horses kill a race because they cant keep up. At the runners they go 60 percent for first and that makes winning way more important than sitting on the rail and picking up nice purses and killing the look of what a race should not look like, I have never seen a horse person on this site ever come up with an idea to improve racing and i just read about disgruntled gamblers who want to watch and bet on a product that is exciting. There is no better situation for any form of gambling than excitement for your betting dollar such as a football bet that is 50-50 with 3 minutes to go and see a QB in trouble and escaping with a perfect throw and a great catch and then 5 minutes later at 4 a bunch of new exciting games start and build your blood pressure to the moon by making you feel like you are part of the action, Having people that do not gamble like big breeding people and horsemen run this sport have killed the game and these people should never be at the table when the topic of making this game better, Places like weg put in a staggered gate and horsemen object and next it is taken away or added distant races like they have everywhere outside north AMERICA and again the horsemen dont like it and boom its gone or telling drivers no holes or a big fine and drivers who are over paid working MORONS not even making an attempt to follow that rule and boom it disappears but one GREAT idea that they have kept is the very popular SWINGER bet that has remained because of its popularity and the people who make these rules only making 6 digit pay for some of the great rules and decisions made who in their mind are under paid workers who have made this game were it is today and in line are the sons and daughters of these people who will make racing great again.
I am certainly not a horseman but here is an idea....the leader at the 1/4 pole gets 10% of the pursethe leader at the 1/2 pole gets 10% of the pursethe leader at the 3/4 pole gets 10% of the pursethe other 70% you can divide to the top four finishers--maybe 40/15/10/5at least the races would be more interesting to watch
I have not watched or handicapped the Meadowlands. My bets have been at Mohawk. I do look at results and see better payoffs.
At Mohawk did you ever in the past believe that one day you would see a 2-5 shot that you did not see being the favorite let alone 2-5 Do the people running this game that never gable understand this is going on.
There is way to much smart money at Mohawk. Horses leave, odds drop, and they win. Others are bet to much and I play against. Far to many of those are winning too.I thought Erinwood Big Mack would be the favorite....paid $2.90 & staggered home a winner.
fewer people now challenge the fact that they(CAW) are betting well after the race startsa few here still think its legit like Stan Durbread and SAW--but they choose not to believe itits egregious beyond any reasonable doubt
Pap in 1970 when entering a racetrack with no rebate you would seethe very well off lawyers and construction owners that would either bet huge chalk or many like playing the game like it was a huge lottery and they did not care about losses but the memories of the huge payoff would linger for a long time but upper management job was to figure out how to serve low quality food and make a profit where any gaming group knows the key is not to make huge off the food and keep it reasonable priced and good and keep you betting, When the casinos came in and the first time these people went they had a casino host come over and greet them and make sure they knew how appreciated they were and asked if they would like to eat free in the steak house and then a week later in the mail they would be offered free rooms at a real nice place with a spa and a swimming pool and a dealer the moment you sat down would say good luck and welcome and be rooting for you and this system was never figured out by racetracks and when they wanted to treat the customer well and told horsemen that it would cost them it was always vetoed because they believe that the show they put on is the greatist show on earth and never really cared one inch about the customer who they thought were getting away cheap, A few years ago Gural went over to the horsemen at vernon and asked them to lower the rake and this was vetoed by the most stupid people on earth, If you went home and were served the same type of food you ate that day at a racetrack you would divorce your wife but i can say that one racetrack had great sandwiches and that was HAZEL PARK
The 14th race last night was over before it started. The winner was absolutely pounded in the p3 and DD. Poor driver from poor post. All you need to know.Any handicapping you may have done before they flashed the will pay to be thrown out the window
