There is only one era that counts and that was the JC and others at the big M as it was all strategy with many moves during a race and back then i found out how far WEG drivers were behind in talent as BRENT DAVIES and WILLIAM MEGANS were the first to try with zero success and then it was HAROLD STEAD AND DOUG BROWN and RON WAPLES and none of these drivers had success but DOUG BROWN who was leading driver at the time was a huge lemon down there and looked like a fool and that showed me how far ahead the top group really was. Now i see drivers that never won a driving title anywhere in Canada and miles behind guys who had no success being on peoples list of all time greats , Also when i see guys put down drivers who drove great racehorses as great drivers it makes zero sence as Clint galbraith and Stanley dancer were two real crappy drivers and Grand circuit drivers to me do not qualify as beating JIM MILLER and DOUG ARTHUR ot the KOPAS family and many others who drove in those races could not win races in a colony of every day drivers, Steve Condren who was a good everyday driver that never won a driving title is a not a hall of fame driver if he drove the Meadowlands and Trevor Ritchie who got lucky and drove a few good ones was not a top 5 driver in his prime at Windsor but he was still a very good driver, I believed at one time that RON WAPLES who was miles the best at WEG was the greatist as he won races with some of the stupidist chalks sitting in and running 3 yards in a stretch drive was the best ever and when driving at the big M he showed me how wrong i was as he was not on the same planet with top Big m drivers.