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Getting new owners.
« on: November 05, 2025, 02:22:55 PM »
I've been a trainer for over 5 years now but have always just trained my own 2-4 horses as a hobby/2nd job. I am 3rd generation horseman as my dad and grandpa did the same thing. I always do well with the horses i train and I've recently been kicking around the idea of doing it full time and I am unsure how to pickup owners.

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2025, 02:42:14 PM »
Not until Faralfough allows open competition testing

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2025, 02:48:42 PM »
I've been a trainer for over 5 years now but have always just trained my own 2-4 horses as a hobby/2nd job. I am 3rd generation horseman as my dad and grandpa did the same thing. I always do well with the horses i train and I've recently been kicking around the idea of doing it full time and I am unsure how to pickup owners.

Getting close to your drivers as boots on the ground hearing info all the time, maybe offer them a finder fee, guaranteed drives..

Not sure where you live, but you could start a conversation with trainers in other jurisdictions about transferring horses to locations you're stabled.  Sharing...

You could follow the suspended trainers list closely and pitch owners as soon as their trainer is suspended for a great length of time. 

Go to auctions, hang around the more exclusive parts of the track, get very friendly with race secretaries.

Start a fractional ownership advertising and put the word out so they can come in for a piece to start, it doesn't ave to be 1% min but 10%.

Keep your ear to the ground and see if any trainers are retiring.

You can keep your identity concealed here but what about sharing your general location i.e. state, expertise i.e. young horses, improving claimers, trotters and or pacers...

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2025, 05:27:40 PM »
I've been a trainer for over 5 years now but have always just trained my own 2-4 horses as a hobby/2nd job. I am 3rd generation horseman as my dad and grandpa did the same thing. I always do well with the horses i train and I've recently been kicking around the idea of doing it full time and I am unsure how to pickup owners.
I wish you good luck if you go full time. I had 4 cheap claimers in the 90's at Pompano Park with two great partners. The mistake we made was to have 4 cheapies rather than 2 mid level claimers. I paid the bills for the group, met with the trainer weekly, and talked with the Vet and farrier when needed. We lost a shit ton of money, but did meet some great folks in the business. I think it's a "game" that is outta reach for most middle class guys like me. But forming partnerships reduces the risk/reward and allows "regular folk" like me to have some fun and be part of the action. I hope you land a rich guy with a lot of cash to spend. I think that's the dream of all trainers.

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2025, 07:10:20 PM »
Keep winning races and they will find you.

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2025, 09:03:56 PM »
That's true, keep wining races. It takes time. It's a bit tougher today than it was in the 80's and 90's, but it still happens. If you train a few horses, race them where they win or at least very competitive, shoot good numbers, and when applicable the horses race better than the board says they should, people will notice. That's how I found my original trainer. He had 3 horses at the time. I gave him one, then a second. Then I bought a good horse and gave it to him. Two years later he had 20 horses in the barn. Hard work and producing results will always pay off. It might not be how you wanted it or expected, but it will pay off. Good luck!

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2025, 12:38:03 AM »
I've been a trainer for over 5 years now but have always just trained my own 2-4 horses as a hobby/2nd job. I am 3rd generation horseman as my dad and grandpa did the same thing. I always do well with the horses i train and I've recently been kicking around the idea of doing it full time and I am unsure how to pickup owners.
I’m this business the best way to get owners is to get a couple positive test. Sad but true unfortunately.

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2025, 02:35:07 AM »
I wish you good luck if you go full time. I had 4 cheap claimers in the 90's at Pompano Park with two great partners. The mistake we made was to have 4 cheapies rather than 2 mid level claimers. I paid the bills for the group, met with the trainer weekly, and talked with the Vet and farrier when needed. We lost a shit ton of money, but did meet some great folks in the business. I think it's a "game" that is outta reach for most middle class guys like me. But forming partnerships reduces the risk/reward and allows "regular folk" like me to have some fun and be part of the action. I hope you land a rich guy with a lot of cash to spend. I think that's the dream of all trainers.

Dougie, a friend of mine told me about the same thing in the 90's. He was a partner on some cheap ones at Monti and said he and his partners were better off spending the same money on a good mid-level claimer at M1.
Eventually he got out, sold the horses and gave all of his equipment to Kyle DiBenedetto.
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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2025, 06:28:58 AM »
I've been a trainer for over 5 years now but have always just trained my own 2-4 horses as a hobby/2nd job. I am 3rd generation horseman as my dad and grandpa did the same thing. I always do well with the horses i train and I've recently been kicking around the idea of doing it full time and I am unsure how to pickup owners.
Go on horseplop and post as BEARDEDTROLL…..

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2025, 08:23:26 AM »
KEEP YOUR DAY JOB!
TRAIN AS A HOBBY ONLY!
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2025, 08:34:37 AM »
Go on horseplop and post as BEARDEDTROLL…..

that's pure comedic gold right there pal---well done!

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2025, 09:01:55 AM »
Dougie, a friend of mine told me about the same thing in the 90's. He was a partner on some cheap ones at Monti and said he and his partners were better off spending the same money on a good mid-level claimer at M1.
Eventually he got out, sold the horses and gave all of his equipment to Kyle DiBenedetto.
kantseeback, we had four cheap $4000-$5000 claimers at Pompano Park. Truth be told, we should have had a couple of $8000-$10000 claimers instead. The dailys and the vet bills just grinded us out. I was young and thought I could be a "big shot" in the "game". Truth was we were crushed by stables like Gordon Norris, Kelly Sheppard, Tom Harmer, and a up and comer named Joe Pavis Jr. In the two years we lost combined about $90,000. A expensive experience! LOL!

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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2025, 09:09:48 AM »
kantseeback, we had four cheap $4000-$5000 claimers at Pompano Park. Truth be told, we should have had a couple of $8000-$10000 claimers instead. The dailys and the vet bills just grinded us out. I was young and thought I could be a "big shot" in the "game". Truth was we were crushed by stables like Gordon Norris, Kelly Sheppard, Tom Harmer, and a up and comer named Joe Pavis Jr. In the two years we lost combined about $90,000. A expensive experience! LOL!

My friend and his partners had one horse that did ok but I think it was a 2500 claimer if my memory is right, Strike King.

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2025, 09:42:55 AM »
My friend and his partners had one horse that did ok but I think it was a 2500 claimer if my memory is right, Strike King.
Strike King was a chestnut by strike out.  He raced in $35,000 claimers at the Meadowlands at one point

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Re: Getting new owners.
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2025, 10:03:12 AM »
Strike King was a chestnut by strike out.  He raced in $35,000 claimers at the Meadowlands at one point

Yes, Strike King was a good horse at one time but when my friend and his pals bought him, they got him super cheap and were told he would never win again. Then he hired Kyle DiBenedetto to train him and entered him at Monti in I think it was the 2500 claiming level. Strike King went on to win some races for them, I think 4 or 5 but then SK aged out.
Sadly, as so many other one-time decent geldings he would up spending his last races running for peanuts at Monticello.

 

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