SVANSTEDT VS TAKTER VS ALAGNA VS BURKE

[Locked in with pace]

Would be very interesting to see these actual numbers ?

1. How many horses they bought at the major sales 2 and 3 years ago?
2, How much money they spent for these horses?
3, How much money have these purchases made to date?

 Would be curious to see these actual numbers. They usuually buy most of the more expensive ones, and you see many of their horses in the big races , but many don't do well.  Some don't make it at all.

[The Exporter]

There is a very active market in Europe and other parts of the world for well bred trotters of all performance levels. Often double and triple what the North American market will value them at. Trotters are king 🤴.

[Brown jug]

in terms of getting quality and quantity yearlings its not even close, alagna leads by a mile with high priced yearlings and homebreds , results have not been great the last few years for that barn
ake is ake, no matter what he gets he can make them trot
takter actually doesn't buy as many high priced ones as you think
burke does a bit of everything but he stays away from the outrageously high priced yearlings and now has many homebreds to train down

[Jazzman]

alagna stable looses between 5 and 6 million annualy witch is about normal for colt trainers

[Ramnap]

Smarter to just buy em, leave em in a stall for a year and a half then amish em.  Everybody wins and you dont have to cripple em up. Trainer gets paid and taxes get written off. Thats what its all about these days.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Some do well, and some don't. Maybe there is an ebb and flow to it. Log the sales results, get the winter training roster from all the major training centers (some trainers won't show up on those because their facility doesn't publish one), and track the results. Top trainers start out with more than just what they/their owners purchased, because many are also sent horses (homebreds). Alagna is a good example. He's been sent some regally bred horses for years now. Good horseman, good trainer, but Tony has simply had a bad run. Even his owners say so, LOL. His earning were over $9m at one time. That dropped to 7 and change, 5 and change, and this year, he's what? Sure, there's reasons, but at the heart of it, he's simply had a bad run.

[Kole Hanover]

alagna stable looses between 5 and 6 million annualy witch is about normal for colt trainers

 Normal for "colt trainers" to lose between 5 & 6 million yearly?

 Are you talking thoroughbreds perhaps?
 What other standardbred trainers burn through that much money every year?
 Harris' cash cow would lose a couple mill but 5/6 is a huge net loss

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Normal for "colt trainers" to lose between 5 & 6 million yearly?

 Are you talking thoroughbreds perhaps?
 What other standardbred trainers burn through that much money every year?
 Harris' cash cow would lose a couple mill but 5/6 is a huge net loss

Not normal. Doesn't happen. No trainer can afford their business to lose $5m annually.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Normal for "colt trainers" to lose between 5 & 6 million yearly?

 Are you talking thoroughbreds perhaps?
 What other standardbred trainers burn through that much money every year?
 Harris' cash cow would lose a couple mill but 5/6 is a huge net loss

It is possible to burn through that kind of cash. Simple math will tell you 100 horses @ 5 grand per month for 1 year is 6 million and I didn't even factor in purchase price.

[Kenny]

alagna stable looses between 5 and 6 million annualy witch is about normal for colt trainers

Where did you get this information?  Hearsay?