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Re: Fastest HORSE in the WORLD.....DUD as a STUD
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2025, 06:13:37 PM »
Every one is missing the point.....when one specific trainer has mass produced WORLD CHAMPIONS.....and none of them ......none....can be a decent stud

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2025, 06:21:49 PM »
None of those horses of Teague’s were bred real well - all kind of off breeding.  Lather Up also has had to compete with DownByTheSeaSide in Ohio so not like he was going to top tier mares. 

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2025, 06:56:09 PM »
None of those horses of Teague’s were bred real well - all kind of off breeding.  Lather Up also has had to compete with DownByTheSeaSide in Ohio so not like he was going to top tier mares.

Exactly. Keep in mind, also, Teague did not spend big money on horses. Most were gelded. Several homebreds with recognizable bloodlines but not fashionable. Rainbow Blue went on to be quite a nice broodmare.


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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2025, 07:18:24 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2025, 07:21:13 PM »
of course none of Teague's horses turned out to be great sires

George is cheap and wont pay big money for fancy bloodlines

no one expected any of them to be good sires

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2025, 08:28:51 PM »
And the genius that he is ......George bred every mare he had to all of these dud stallions and there goes the business model of success.....still has over 25 mares....omg

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2025, 09:28:32 PM »
when it comes to DUDS AT STUD, that title belongs to NIGHT PRO. Hasn't sired anything a racehorse trainer would be interested in.

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2025, 09:37:54 PM »
No one can be surprised by Night Pro being a complete failure as a sire!

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2025, 10:48:15 PM »
Does Geo Teague still have horses with Geo Forman the boxer?
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2025, 11:01:43 PM »
Not for 15 years and FOREMAN is deceased

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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2025, 10:02:21 AM »
The greatest thoroughbred Secretariat was a dud at stud also. It happens. And doubt he was on banned substances.

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Re: Fastest HORSE in the WORLD.....DUD as a STUD
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2025, 10:30:12 AM »
when it comes to DUDS AT STUD, that title belongs to NIGHT PRO.

 I always heard the biggest dud at stud was Dwayne from Ohio.

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2025, 10:41:04 AM »
of course none of Teague's horses turned out to be great sires

George is cheap and wont pay big money for fancy bloodlines

no one expected any of them to be good sires

duh

George is FRUGAL but not cheap…..  If he hits on a good one great but if not he lives his life.  Little or no pressure.
Some trainers, drivers and owners don’t want to run with the big dogs. 

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2025, 11:04:20 AM »
The greatest thoroughbred Secretariat was a dud at stud also. It happens. And doubt he was on banned substances.

Here are some of Secretariat's most accomplished winners:

Lady's Secret : Perhaps Secretariat's most successful offspring, Lady's Secret was a champion filly who won multiple graded stakes races, including the Breeders' Cup Distaff. She was also named Horse of the Year and Champion Older Mare in 1987, and was inducted into the U.S. Racing Hall of Fame in 1992.
Risen Star : He won the Preakness Stakes and Belmont Stakes in 1988 and was named champion three-year-old male. Many believe he could have also won the Kentucky Derby if he hadn't been taken so wide during the race.
Kingston Rule : This Australian-bred son of Secretariat holds the record for the Melbourne Cup, one of Australia's most prestigious races.
General Assembly : Won several graded stakes races, including the G1 Travers, where he set a track record.
Tinners Way : A versatile runner who won the Pacific Classic twice and competed successfully in both Europe and the U.S.
Pancho Villa : Won several G2 races and set a track record at Hollywood Park.
Terlingua : Won multiple stakes races and is best known as the dam of the highly influential sire Storm Cat.
Weekend Surprise : A graded stakes winner, she is most notable as the dam of four graded stakes winners, including Preakness winner Summer Squall and Hall of Fame inductee A.P. Indy.
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Re: Fastest HORSE in the WORLD.....DUD as a STUD
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2025, 11:19:07 AM »
Here are some of Secretariat's most accomplished winners:

Lady's Secret : Perhaps Secretariat's most successful offspring, Lady's Secret was a champion filly who won multiple graded stakes races, including the Breeders' Cup Distaff. She was also named Horse of the Year and Champion Older Mare in 1987, and was inducted into the U.S. Racing Hall of Fame in 1992.
Risen Star : He won the Preakness Stakes and Belmont Stakes in 1988 and was named champion three-year-old male. Many believe he could have also won the Kentucky Derby if he hadn't been taken so wide during the race.
Kingston Rule : This Australian-bred son of Secretariat holds the record for the Melbourne Cup, one of Australia's most prestigious races.
General Assembly : Won several graded stakes races, including the G1 Travers, where he set a track record.
Tinners Way : A versatile runner who won the Pacific Classic twice and competed successfully in both Europe and the U.S.
Pancho Villa : Won several G2 races and set a track record at Hollywood Park.
Terlingua : Won multiple stakes races and is best known as the dam of the highly influential sire Storm Cat.
Weekend Surprise : A graded stakes winner, she is most notable as the dam of four graded stakes winners, including Preakness winner Summer Squall and Hall of Fame inductee A.P. Indy.
  None of Secretariat's offspring achieved the same level of success or iconic status as he did on the track. Limited Direct Progeny Success: He had a few successes but was widely considered disappointing. A better broodmare sire than racehorse sire. 
« Last Edit: July 17, 2025, 11:36:28 AM by Pacer 2 »

 

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