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wizardofoz

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Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« on: July 07, 2025, 11:58:53 PM »

RACE 1 - Ocean Downs - MD - July 7, 2025
Conditions: MARYLAND SIRE STAKES 3 Year Old Colts & Geldings Preliminary No.2
Gait: Trot Purse: 10,000 Class: MDSS3YOCGT Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 77-0 PM
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
4    Yall Keep Dreaming
 3, Yall Beneath Me-
 Upside Blue Chip    4    1/5H    1/12    1/25    1/25    1/22   1:54.3    29.3   *0.05     Johnathan Ahle    Richard Hans
3    Roan Ridge
 3, Il Mago-Travel Ridge    3    2/5H    2/12    2/25    2/25    2/22   1:59.0    29.0   12.90     Russell Foster    Jason Walters
1    Swervingmervin
 3, Il Mago-Tipsy Tiara    1    3/7H    3/13H    3/26H    3/27H    3/27   2:00.0    29.4   7.30     Declan Donoway    Darren Ferrell
5    Tj Jadster
 3, Il Mago-
 Marlene And Grace    5    4/10    4/15    4/28    4/30    4/32T   2:01.1    30.3   24.30     William Carter    Walter Bozman Jr
2    Onepotatatwototat a
 3, Il Mago-
 Muscles Lady Ann    2X    5/DIS    5X/DIS    X5/DIS    5/DIS    5/DIS          33.60     Justin Vincent    Leon Harris
Time:    28.2   56.4    (28.2)   1:25.0    (28.1)   1:54.3    (29.3)        

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2025, 12:06:14 AM »
The Yonkers Trot went in the same time of 1:54:3.  Stallion pedigree:  https://www.msrfonline.com/files/stallions/2022/YALLBENEATHME.pdf

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2025, 12:25:28 AM »
I'm not following the 1/2 mile circuits, so I cheated and looked, nope, not that I can see.

Took the turns very well.

We're just talking about Magnitude in the T-breds, for me same kind of issue, bottom's out the field.  They get these types to rate, it's more than likely the end of the season early for their competition.

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2025, 01:14:27 PM »
another Hans piece who is showing freakish talent over the half mile Ocean track

he has had a few-not just GooGoo GaGa

I would never underestimate Hans when he has a trotter that moves this well

surely he will grab the MDSS races at Ocean and Rosecroft-but it would be great if he raced vs Grand Circuit quality

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2025, 04:28:30 PM »
Hans should consider testing the waters against the best 3 year old trotters out there.
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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2025, 10:11:08 PM »
YALL KEEP DREAMING
Ocean Downs - MD   07/16/25   Race 2  ENTRIES 7:00 PM  (Wednesday)

Fastest 3yo Trotter 1/2 miler in the world right now! 

Thanks Wizardofoz  ;D
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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2025, 10:40:06 PM »
i bet burke would give lots of money for him.

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2025, 11:58:50 PM »
You keep going back and it gets interesting for me.

Cams Rocket is a pacer, while mother Koras Trotter their offspring  Googoo Gaagaa

https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cams+rocket

Googoo Gaagaa & Jordanna Paige their offspring Yall Beaneth Me    

Yall Beaneth Me & Upside Blue Chip their offspring is Yall Keep Dreaming

All brought to you by Richard Hans Stable
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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2025, 12:46:11 PM »
As long as he stays in Maryland and races against MD bred rats, he'll do good! He is a nice horse, but he must be uncontrollable for them not to try and ration out that speed. I have seen horses like him fall apart when they actually have to race another horse of his caliber. But for now, as long as he stays trotting, he looks unbeatable for this circuit!

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2025, 01:26:59 PM »
As long as he stays in Maryland and races against MD bred rats, he'll do good! He is a nice horse, but he must be uncontrollable for them not to try and ration out that speed. I have seen horses like him fall apart when they actually have to race another horse of his caliber. But for now, as long as he stays trotting, he looks unbeatable for this circuit!

I agree with you, horse cannot rate.

The other stuff were good insights based Hans MO.

The stud fee on this horse's sire Yall Beneath Me is $30k, that's big if they're lined up for it.

Me agreeing with you, there might be hope for us yet!   ;D
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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2025, 01:34:52 PM »
I agree with you, horse cannot rate.

The other stuff were good insights based Hans MO.

The stud fee on this horse's sire Yall Beneath Me is $30k, that's big if they're lined up for it.

Me agreeing with you, there might be hope for us yet!   ;D

Not many lining up at those prices.  Breeds his own and sells off some too.  Doesn’t seem like he is that interested in others breeding to them if he’s asking 30k.  Any stats on how many were bred to either one that weren’t bred by him? 

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2025, 05:43:31 PM »
As long as he stays in Maryland and races against MD bred rats, he'll do good! He is a nice horse, but he must be uncontrollable for them not to try and ration out that speed. I have seen horses like him fall apart when they actually have to race another horse of his caliber. But for now, as long as he stays trotting, he looks unbeatable for this circuit!

you may very well be correct

but I feel he is 20-25 lengths faster vs what he has been facing-so it may appear "uncontrollable" I just think they are letting him trot as he pleases-freely and without being held back/rated

you never know with Hans--he may supplement him later in the year if he continues to look like this

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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2025, 05:57:26 PM »
Not many lining up at those prices.  Breeds his own and sells off some too.  Doesn’t seem like he is that interested in others breeding to them if he’s asking 30k.  Any stats on how many were bred to either one that weren’t bred by him?

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YALL BENEATH ME STUD ANALYSIS

From 6 starters, sire of 5 in 2:00, with earnings of $648,941, including:
ONLY I EXIST (M) 2,1:57.2f; 3,1:56.1f-'24 ($293,006). At 2, winner leg
Maryland Sires S. at Ocean (2), Rosecroft (2), Final Maryland Sires
S. at Rosecroft, Ocean. At 3, winner leg Maryland Sires S. at Ocean
(2), Rosecroft (2), Final Maryland Sires S. at Rosecroft, Ocean,
Maryland Stbd. Race Fund at Ocean. (Get Rich Quick by Cantab
Hall)
YALL KEEP DREAMING 2,1:58.4f-'24 ($130,800). At 2, winner leg
Maryland Sires S. at Ocean (2), Rosecroft (2), Final Maryland Sires
S. at Rosecroft, Ocean, Maryland Stbd. Race Fund at Ocean.
(Upside Blue Chip by Dream Vacation)
War Pony 3,1:59.3f-'24 ($80,716). At 2, second in leg Maryland Sires S.
at Ocean (2), Rosecroft (2), Final Maryland Sires S. at Rosecroft;
third in Maryland Stbd. Race Fund at Ocean. At 3, third in leg
Maryland Sires S. at Ocean (2), Rosecroft, Final Maryland Sires S.
at Rosecroft, Ocean. (Upside Blue Chip by Dream Vacation)
YALL JUST LOVE ME (M) 2,1:57.1f-'24 ($78,797). At 2, winner leg and
Final Maryland Sires S. at Rosecroft; second in leg Maryland Sires
S. at Ocean, Rosecroft, Final Maryland Sires S. at Ocean.
(Likeavirgin Lindy by Like A Prayer)
Y'ALL KNOW ME (M) 2,1:58.4f-'24 ($45,222). At 2, winner leg Maryland
Sires S. at Rosecroft; second in leg Maryland Sires S. at Ocean,
Rosecroft, Final Maryland Sires S. at Rosecroft; third in Final
Maryland Sires S. at Ocean, Maryland Stbd. Race Fund at Ocean.
(World Tour by Muscles Yankee)
Yall Racing Snails 2,Q2:04.1h ($20,400). At 2, third in Final Maryland
Sires S. at Ocean. (Ginger Hanover by Donato Hanover)
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Re: Is there a better half mile 3 year old trotter in the USA?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2025, 06:07:37 PM »
You keep going back and it gets interesting for me.

Cams Rocket is a pacer, while mother Koras Trotter their offspring  Googoo Gaagaa

https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cams+rocket

Googoo Gaagaa & Jordanna Paige their offspring Yall Beaneth Me    

Yall Beaneth Me & Upside Blue Chip their offspring is Yall Keep Dreaming

All brought to you by Richard Hans Stable

That’s interesting.  I own a trotter bred by Richard Hans, and his mother is out of Cams Rocket too. 
Has made $433k.

 

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