Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!

[Bernie Madoff]

I have learned over the years never believe a word Ron Burke says. Like all the other cheats he talks out of both sides of his mouth. Ron Burke does not give a crap about the fans. That is some lol shit.

 

[Call Sign Merlin]

Sippinonsearoc was in a $20,000 open pace at Scioto on 6/28/25, not an Ohio Sires Stakes, which goes for much more.

It was May 24th and a Buckeye Stallion Series race which go for $20k and is intended for horses that are not good enough for the Ohio Sire Stakes.  It is the equivalent of the NY Excelsior, Ontario Grassroots or PA Stallion Series.  In fact Burke won 2 other Stallion Series races that day with Swingtown and Harrisburg Heist.  Just a guy doing all he can for the sport.

[SDST2009]

It was May 24th and a Buckeye Stallion Series race which go for $20k and is intended for horses that are not good enough for the Ohio Sire Stakes.  It is the equivalent of the NY Excelsior, Ontario Grassroots or PA Stallion Series.  In fact Burke won 2 other Stallion Series races that day with Swingtown and Harrisburg Heist.  Just a guy doing all he can for the sport.

Yup. Running every small-time trainer into the ground.

[Trigger]

I knew Burke has a 100 loyal employees, most of them are members here?

Dat cool   

[Elvis Yellowfeet]

When be raced Sippininsearoc in the BSS he entered him with the intention to win the race.  My issue is with trainers who enter their horses in a race where winning is not the no 1 priority. 


A few years ago for example when Test of Faith was a monster they raced her in an open mates race one day at Pocono.  Miller sat 5th or 6th.  Moved her on the final turn , paced a final quarter in 25 flat and finished 4th and burned the public’s wallets at 1/9.  The next week she won the Graduate final by open lenghts. 

Miller should have got the rest of the year off.  So should the trainer and the horse.

[Trigger]

When be raced Sippininsearoc in the BSS he entered him with the intention to win the race.  My issue is with trainers who enter their horses in a race where winning is not the no 1 priority. 


A few years ago for example when Test of Faith was a monster they raced her in an open mates race one day at Pocono.  Miller sat 5th or 6th.  Moved her on the final turn , paved a final quarter in 25 flat and finished 4th and burned the public’s wallets at 1/9.  The next week she won the Graduate final by open lenghts. 

Miller should have got the rest of the year off.  So should the trainer and the horse.

Nigga pleeeeaaaaase!

That's what Gingras does exactly for him.

Get the easy win, placing once you commit, but this Gingras commit, when he's way up when he's feeling it and it's working out!

He's a fucking scumbag with a well oiled plan worked out with Burke i.e. hey it's not working but you can grab 2nd, 3rd, 4th from 5th with some urging to get a another 2/5 second even if you can do it, don't bother.  Hidalgo at Vagina last night was a perfect example.  Ran the same time as the BigM previous win which took little to no urging, yesterday no effort to get a better placing which the horse surely had.

Orders from Burke / Gingras is his assassin, strong ride to abort even if you have some horse for a better placing, don't push too hard! 

[Trigger]

You watch that 9th at Vagina last night, the abort was decided when Emoticon pulled from behind him to go uncovered, Gingras tipped out and went in and aborted, then closed with fastest closing time of any horse.

Hey if you're not going to ride every race life you're life depends on it, like there is no tomorrow, $300,000 purse, guess what, the Burke mob can afford to do whatever, he ain't going to be on the poverty line.

Why is harness racing on welfare, and who is its biggest recipient, bar none-

Ron Burke!

[Elvis Yellowfeet]

I hope Gural mans the fuck up and tells any drivers who don’t give ther horses the same effort Saturday as they do next week they are no longer welcome at his tracks.  Lord knows the judges won’t do shit

[Trigger]

I hope Gural mans the fuck up and tells any drivers who don’t give ther horses the same effort Saturday as they do next week they are no longer welcome at his tracks.  Lord knows the judges won’t do shit

A very nice thought, but he's a caver.  He caved to the drug clown trainer list in the federal criminal investigation, he'll stand up initially but then whatever brings in the biggest handle, and CAW!   

[The Unstable]

Burke races his top horses longer than any other trainer.

You ever wonder why so many crippled horses go on for years? 

[SeattleSlew]

What he really meant to say is I don’t want my future stallion Lou Print getting beat in an 30k race and hurting his potential value.

YES, Louprint, if managed properly, can become worth $20-$25mm.  That is what Walner was worth about 2 years ago based on legit open market sales of his shares.

[Laag]

its sad its all about the breeding industry now

I wistfully remember the 80s and 90s when you had On the Road Again and Guts battling it out and all the top NJSS action, Nihilator racing in 3 yo opens. Jate Lobell/Run the Table/Frugal Gourmet/Laag dancing all the big dances and going heats in the Oliver Wendell Holmes

Now the grand circuit is lame. Cant get more than 10 horses for Big M pace because Burke didnt bother to make most of his horses eligible..no Sippin, no Railroad Station...how about on the filly side...Looksgoodi nlulu go 48 and change last year and absolutely nothing from her this year. Rose is a bust. Burke grinding the poor 2 year olds for all the money in the world. Its funny the 2 years old last year were going just as fast as the 3 yos this year.  You think there is a problem..all the money seems focused on winning as much at 2 and then your horse is racing for scraps at 3

[Kenny]

its sad its all about the breeding industry now

I wistfully remember the 80s and 90s when you had On the Road Again and Guts battling it out and all the top NJSS action, Nihilator racing in 3 yo opens. Jate Lobell/Run the Table/Frugal Gourmet/Laag dancing all the big dances and going heats in the Oliver Wendell Holmes

Now the grand circuit is lame. Cant get more than 10 horses for Big M pace because Burke didnt bother to make most of his horses eligible..no Sippin, no Railroad Station...how about on the filly side...Looksgoodi nlulu go 48 and change last year and absolutely nothing from her this year. Rose is a bust. Burke grinding the poor 2 year olds for all the money in the world. Its funny the 2 years old last year were going just as fast as the 3 yos this year.  You think there is a problem..all the money seems focused on winning as much at 2 and then your horse is racing for scraps at 3

The HANDOUTS caused this.

[Kenny]

I hope Gural mans the fuck up and tells any drivers who don’t give ther horses the same effort Saturday as they do next week they are no longer welcome at his tracks.  Lord knows the judges won’t do shit

I cannot believe people who know so much about racing just don't get it.  If you own a horse your goal is to make the most money over the long-term. That means you do not go all out to win every race. How many time have you heard a driver or trainer say the hope to "get a piece of it" meaning the purse. If you want to see everyone go all out to win every race then make all racing winner take all and only have win betting and bets that only pay off for horses that win (daily double, pick 4, pick 5, etc.)

[Elvis Yellowfeet]

I cannot believe people who know so much about racing just don't get it.  If you own a horse your goal is to make the most money over the long-term. That means you do not go all out to win every race. How many time have you heard a driver or trainer say the hope to "get a piece of it" meaning the purse. If you want to see everyone go all out to win every race then make all racing winner take all and only have win betting and bets that only pay off for horses that win (daily double, pick 4, pick 5, etc.)

This!!!  This is the fucking problem. Fuck you.  You and people like you are the biggest problem our great sport has.


If you are racing in a parimutuel race you should be going all out to win every race.  If you want to give your horse an easy mile put him in a fucking qualifier.   

That is what Ron Burke did here and what trainers should do.

If you aren’t trying your best to win you are cheating and nothing kills the sport more than cheating.