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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2025, 12:53:39 PM »
When be raced Sippininsearoc in the BSS he entered him with the intention to win the race.  My issue is with trainers who enter their horses in a race where winning is not the no 1 priority. 


A few years ago for example when Test of Faith was a monster they raced her in an open mates race one day at Pocono.  Miller sat 5th or 6th.  Moved her on the final turn , paced a final quarter in 25 flat and finished 4th and burned the public’s wallets at 1/9.  The next week she won the Graduate final by open lenghts. 

Miller should have got the rest of the year off.  So should the trainer and the horse.

no one is twisting the public's collective arm to bet races or horses that have a high chance of being out for a tightener.

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2025, 01:00:33 PM »
no one is twisting the public's collective arm to bet races or horses that have a high chance of being out for a tightener.

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Very smart, sit out and watch and let the handle do the talking!

I read another comment suggestion a while back regarding this situation, don't call or post the times during the race, and do so after the race.  That would be interesting.


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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2025, 02:37:39 PM »
It was May 24th and a Buckeye Stallion Series race which go for $20k and is intended for horses that are not good enough for the Ohio Sire Stakes.  It is the equivalent of the NY Excelsior, Ontario Grassroots or PA Stallion Series.  In fact Burke won 2 other Stallion Series races that day with Swingtown and Harrisburg Heist.  Just a guy doing all he can for the sport.



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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2025, 06:32:15 PM »
It was May 24th and a Buckeye Stallion Series race which go for $20k and is intended for horses that are not good enough for the Ohio Sire Stakes.  It is the equivalent of the NY Excelsior, Ontario Grassroots or PA Stallion Series.  In fact Burke won 2 other Stallion Series races that day with Swingtown and Harrisburg Heist.  Just a guy doing all he can for the sport.



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For the sport? Come on. He's doing all he can for himself. I am not saying I blame him, but call a spade a spade.

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2025, 07:54:16 PM »
no one is twisting the public's collective arm to bet races or horses that have a high chance of being out for a tightener.
ther should be zero chance he’s out for a tightener.  If he wants a tightener he should be in a qualifier. 

If he wants a tightener in a parimutuel race the driver should be fined and suspended for lack of effort

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2025, 08:08:40 PM »
ther should be zero chance he’s out for a tightener.  If he wants a tightener he should be in a qualifier. 

If he wants a tightener in a parimutuel race the driver should be fined and suspended for lack of effort

Are you new to the sport?

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2025, 09:05:33 PM »
For the sport? Come on. He's doing all he can for himself. I am not saying I blame him, but call a spade a spade.

Sarcasm my guy - I think jamming grand circuit level horses into ‘n’ races meant for lesser horses is one of the worst things for the sport and Ohio is probably one of the worst offenders. 

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2025, 09:06:35 PM »
ther should be zero chance he’s out for a tightener.  If he wants a tightener he should be in a qualifier. 

If he wants a tightener in a parimutuel race the driver should be fined and suspended for lack of effort

You must really hate the NBA or other professional sports. 

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2025, 07:14:37 AM »
TYLER GEORGE PUT A HORSE IN AT HOOSIER PARK THAT WAS FOR HORSES ON THE FAIR CIRCUT WINS BY 20 AND 1 WEEK LATER PUT IN FOR THE SIRE STAKES AND WENT IN 148  ngc3

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2025, 11:20:45 AM »
The Burke operation is unparalleled. You simply can't argue that. Whether they are doing something illegal or not is no different than the same discussion about anyone else. Simply put, if you are racing on hay, oats, and water only, you are at a competitive disadvantage, because virtually everyone is doing something. Everyone looks for an edge. It sucks, but it's reality.

I am not going to give Burke the Nobel prize for saying something everyone knows is true. He chose option b instead of option a. Prep races, elimination races, whatever, and trying to be 100% for a final, is simply part of the sport. Other sports have similar situations. Whether it's tanking a match/game for an easier opponent, sitting starters, whatever, it happens. Either factor it in to your handicapping or don't. You have to do one or the other.

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2025, 06:07:31 PM »
Ron burke is a crybaby  as an owner I'm glad Capone raced him in a race it helps pay the bills. Tioga has a race to fill and it worked out Burke races horse anywhere  a lot of times its just a training mile  so shut the fuck up about a young kid trying to have a barn that is being successful. Your not the most loved trainer in the sport  just ask your help

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2025, 06:11:40 PM »
Sarcasm my guy - I think jamming grand circuit level horses into ‘n’ races meant for lesser horses is one of the worst things for the sport and Ohio is probably one of the worst offenders.

Like Confederate in KYSS...

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2025, 06:15:05 PM »
 
Sarcasm my guy - I think jamming grand circuit level horses into ‘n’ races meant for lesser horses is one of the worst things for the sport and Ohio is probably one of the worst offenders.

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2025, 06:25:45 PM »


Call it what it is. Cheating. 



Now that's funny!!!  Ron Burke talking about cheating. 

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Re: Atta Boy Ron Burke!!!!
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2025, 02:09:00 PM »
You must really hate the NBA or other professional sports.

Well those sports exist for purposes other than gambling and if gambling was their sole supply of income the NBA would be out of business by noon tomorrow

 

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