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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2025, 06:42:12 PM »
If NJ state said they were closing the Meadowlands, and Gural said to himself, let me take over the Meadowlands because I think I can get a casino there, that's fine. You are a moron if you think differently. Like every other track owner/operator in the industry, he is not a nonprofit. He is supposed to want a casino. Anybody would. That aside, he is a horseman. He's an owner, breeder, he owns a farm. He's supported racing more than any other track owner/operator in the game. Rooney did a wonderful job at YR, right? The only one thing that $hithole has going for it is purses, and that only helps owners. If you don't think Gural has done a good job, has done enough, whatever, no problem. Say so. Once. Then walk away, SFTU, and go play bingo.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2025, 06:47:31 PM »
I do think Gural has done a good job, but I believe he's fighting an uphill battle to get a casino, and one wonders, how much longer will he be willing to keep losing money before he says enough is enough, I gave it my best shot.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2025, 07:43:09 PM »
3 months in advance, they are advertising for people to come to the track, dress up as chickens and race each other. He's doing a damn fine job
 

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2025, 07:48:07 PM »
Sounds like another amateur race.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2025, 08:28:04 PM »
3 months in advance, they are advertising for people to come to the track, dress up as chickens and race each other. He's doing a damn fine job

https://playmeadowlands.com/event/meadowlands-racetracks-chicken-run/

Here it is. A Public Service announcement.   Do you think Gural and Settemoire will be donning chicken outfits.

I was told from a reliable source they will even let Petrelli in for the night. As long as he brings in Gaygoots as his date.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2025, 09:19:12 PM »
https://playmeadowlands.com/event/meadowlands-racetracks-chicken-run/

Here it is. A Public Service announcement.   Do you think Gural and Settemoire will be donning chicken outfits.

I was told from a reliable source they will even let Petrelli in for the night. As long as he brings in Gaygoots as his date.

They are charging $65 for a chicken costume and $45 for a kids version.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2025, 09:22:19 PM »
The suspense is killing me. Quit crying poverty and pull the plug already. tmbz1

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2025, 10:09:24 PM »
yes i agree gural does care about racing
he is a decent size breeder
at some point its not how long he wants to stay involved but his age will dictate, not a young man

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2025, 12:05:53 AM »
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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2025, 12:08:15 AM »
I do think Gural has done a good job, but I believe he's fighting an uphill battle to get a casino, and one wonders, how much longer will he be willing to keep losing money before he says enough is enough, I gave it my best shot.

Best guess on how he is losing at the following:

Meadowlands

Vernon

Tioga

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2025, 01:25:56 AM »
Mr. Gural has done the best with what there is. You can’t make chicken soup out of chicken shit.  Once the big M falls, it’s all over. Ohio will hold on a few more years until current deal is over. Decoupling will occur eventually.  No one bets on Ohio or PA racing. Owners, trainers and drivers love it. Public doesn’t support it.  Enjoy the Meadowlands while you can and stop complaining. The glory days are gone and not coming back.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2025, 01:52:50 AM »
I love this part of the consent form, very inviting. 

I acknowledge that participating in a Meadowlands Chicken Run carries with it the potential for serious injury and/or death.

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2025, 03:34:09 AM »
Best guess on how he is losing at the following:

Meadowlands

Vernon

Tioga

Gural keeps complaining all the time how he's losing money racing at Meadowlands, I'm not his accountant, ask him. I doubt he's making much if any money at Vernon, just look at how low the purses are. I have no idea how he's doing moneywise at Tioga. He's old and not in the best of health, be interesting to see what happens should he pass away in the next few years.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2025, 05:42:06 AM by gh2009 »

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2025, 07:20:45 AM »
If he could make a deal for a casino I would bet he would put the % of profit allowed to racing,  all back into purses except a small % over several years to reimburse his losses.
The breeders can’t afford to see The Meadowlands close.  When Gural passes or gives up, and only then will the deep pocketed breeders step in .  When that happens everyone will be wishing for the Gural days.   

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Re: If the Meadowlands closes, what effect would it have on the industry?
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2025, 08:33:06 AM »
Mr. Gural has done the best with what there is. You can’t make chicken soup out of chicken shit.  Once the big M falls, it’s all over. Ohio will hold on a few more years until current deal is over. Decoupling will occur eventually.  No one bets on Ohio or PA racing. Owners, trainers and drivers love it. Public doesn’t support it.  Enjoy the Meadowlands while you can and stop complaining. The glory days are gone and not coming back.

He made a decision to allow CAWs such as Elite Turf Club into his pool and has provided almost zero transparency to the wagering public about it. That's not doing the best the can. Wvery single person who has bet $2 (like Jessica Otten believes) is entitled to complain all they want

 

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