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Monti Purses
« on: January 06, 2025, 10:22:26 AM »
Looks like they took another significant hit.

How low can they go?

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2025, 04:54:40 AM »
It doesn't matter there. A huge % of the horses that race there have no where else to go. They have to accept the purses or get out of the business. I don't know how owners can pay their bills with such small purses.

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2025, 06:30:22 AM »
Very few horses earn their keep at Monticello, and even less when Freehold was still open, plus alot of other tracks with low purses, but for some reason most of the owners are still racing which makes no sense when you lose money almost every year.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2025, 06:35:36 AM by gh2009 »

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2025, 07:01:11 AM »
Wouldn't you need to have an outside job--or have owners to survive at Monti??

Plus these owners-would then need to have income outside of racing and use the losses as a tax break.

Thats what is about the only thing that keeps racing going because the handle isnt sufficient to turn a profit for 90% of people that work in the industry.???

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2025, 10:13:49 AM »
Monti is doing the limbo rock on purses.

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2025, 02:15:22 PM »
Would expect Monti horses to ship down to Meadowlands when Sunday racing starts in February.

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2025, 07:02:02 PM »
I can't imagine very many horses are paying their own way at Monticello. I suspect many trainers are doing some sort of deals, looking for some sort of advantage. I hate to venture what the daily rate is for a good trainer there.

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2025, 07:51:01 PM »
Monti drivers are "great" handicappers. Other than occasional new and very temporary blood ( right now Beckwith and W Carter) the same guys have been racing against each other literally for decades. Drivers make a living betting, and will do best when the temporary carpetbaggers go back to their own tracks.. Owners are usually fairly local and love being in the game. They do not have visions of grandeur. They like going into the winners circle with big smiles on their faces. Trainers eke out a steady income, all be it not much.

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2025, 01:30:47 PM »
« Last Edit: January 08, 2025, 01:32:18 PM by Papillon »

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2025, 03:48:23 PM »
You think Monti's purses are bad, look at Hawthorne. Several 3000 $ purses. Horrible.

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2025, 11:10:15 PM »
Wouldn't you need to have an outside job--or have owners to survive at Monti??

Plus these owners-would then need to have income outside of racing and use the losses as a tax break.

Thats what is about the only thing that keeps racing going because the handle isnt sufficient to turn a profit for 90% of people that work in the industry.???

The same is true for many of those who race at Vernon Downs!
 
They only race approximately 8 months at Vernon too!

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2025, 02:30:39 AM »
The same is true for many of those who race at Vernon Downs!
 
They only race approximately 8 months at Vernon too!

I remember for a while Dan Daley was king up there.
His wife and he owned, trained and he drove the horses, somehow, they made money?

Another guy I always scratched my head about was Jack Rice. He always only had a couple of horses with his wife and shipped all over NY state. How did he make money?

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2025, 05:13:11 AM »
I don’t follow Monti ‘real’ close, but don’t their purses go up and down ‘seasonally’ in a reverse correlation as the number of ‘local’ tracks change?
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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2025, 07:42:11 AM »
monti purses are higher than yonkers purses would be without slot welfare

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Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2025, 11:21:55 AM »
Are Monti horsemen now betting with three hands through the wickets instead of just two hands? Are horsemen now wagering heavier 'early seeding' win pool dollars, so as to alter the odds, to $$ hammer down the exotics like never before.  ALL IN ATTEMPTS TO HELP MAKE ENDS MEET.

We out here in gambler land hope not.

 

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