Author Topic: Monti Purses  (Read 3808 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

bello

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3044
Monti Purses
« on: January 06, 2025, 10:22:26 AM »
Looks like they took another significant hit.

How low can they go?

Locked in with pace

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1157
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2025, 04:54:40 AM »
It doesn't matter there. A huge % of the horses that race there have no where else to go. They have to accept the purses or get out of the business. I don't know how owners can pay their bills with such small purses.

Scooteroo

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1551
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2025, 06:30:22 AM »
Very few horses earn their keep at Monticello, and even less when Freehold was still open, plus alot of other tracks with low purses, but for some reason most of the owners are still racing which makes no sense when you lose money almost every year.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2025, 06:35:36 AM by gh2009 »

bond

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2316
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2025, 07:01:11 AM »
Wouldn't you need to have an outside job--or have owners to survive at Monti??

Plus these owners-would then need to have income outside of racing and use the losses as a tax break.

Thats what is about the only thing that keeps racing going because the handle isnt sufficient to turn a profit for 90% of people that work in the industry.???

kantseeback

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4137
  • RAINMAN IS THE ANTICHRIST
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2025, 10:13:49 AM »
Monti is doing the limbo rock on purses.

BigMFan

  • NW-1
  • *
  • Posts: 26
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2025, 02:15:22 PM »
Would expect Monti horses to ship down to Meadowlands when Sunday racing starts in February.

Grandstand Handicapper

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2021
  • Which wolf wins? The one you feed.
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2025, 07:02:02 PM »
I can't imagine very many horses are paying their own way at Monticello. I suspect many trainers are doing some sort of deals, looking for some sort of advantage. I hate to venture what the daily rate is for a good trainer there.

bello

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3044
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2025, 07:51:01 PM »
Monti drivers are "great" handicappers. Other than occasional new and very temporary blood ( right now Beckwith and W Carter) the same guys have been racing against each other literally for decades. Drivers make a living betting, and will do best when the temporary carpetbaggers go back to their own tracks.. Owners are usually fairly local and love being in the game. They do not have visions of grandeur. They like going into the winners circle with big smiles on their faces. Trainers eke out a steady income, all be it not much.

Papillon

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1701
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2025, 01:30:47 PM »
« Last Edit: January 08, 2025, 01:32:18 PM by Papillon »

GOAT

  • Top Claimer
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2025, 03:48:23 PM »
You think Monti's purses are bad, look at Hawthorne. Several 3000 $ purses. Horrible.

rainman2

  • Living Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 22018
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2025, 11:10:15 PM »
Wouldn't you need to have an outside job--or have owners to survive at Monti??

Plus these owners-would then need to have income outside of racing and use the losses as a tax break.

Thats what is about the only thing that keeps racing going because the handle isnt sufficient to turn a profit for 90% of people that work in the industry.???

The same is true for many of those who race at Vernon Downs!
 
They only race approximately 8 months at Vernon too!

kantseeback

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4137
  • RAINMAN IS THE ANTICHRIST
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2025, 02:30:39 AM »
The same is true for many of those who race at Vernon Downs!
 
They only race approximately 8 months at Vernon too!

I remember for a while Dan Daley was king up there.
His wife and he owned, trained and he drove the horses, somehow, they made money?

Another guy I always scratched my head about was Jack Rice. He always only had a couple of horses with his wife and shipped all over NY state. How did he make money?

CMJAnew

  • Top Claimer
  • ***
  • Posts: 234
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2025, 05:13:11 AM »
I don’t follow Monti ‘real’ close, but don’t their purses go up and down ‘seasonally’ in a reverse correlation as the number of ‘local’ tracks change?
Reread It

PIGLAND

  • Living Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 165074
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2025, 07:42:11 AM »
monti purses are higher than yonkers purses would be without slot welfare

Jctoronto

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1893
Re: Monti Purses
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2025, 11:21:55 AM »
Are Monti horsemen now betting with three hands through the wickets instead of just two hands? Are horsemen now wagering heavier 'early seeding' win pool dollars, so as to alter the odds, to $$ hammer down the exotics like never before.  ALL IN ATTEMPTS TO HELP MAKE ENDS MEET.

We out here in gambler land hope not.

 

shout out

Refresh History
  • Sound off !
  • Trigger: Tank yuh fi di help Mon
    Today at 12:56:24 PM
  • Calhoun: $40,000 yearling by a $15,000 sire... beats a $ Million worth of Browns. Fuck The ChadBeats $
    Today at 08:27:40 AM
  • Trigger: Unless Calhoun touts otherwise 8), Happy 4th!, SAR 8th - #8 full bro to wood winner, and G1 winner, Zulu!
    July 03, 2025, 10:08:54 PM
  • dougie: A decent 3rd.
    July 03, 2025, 05:42:44 PM
  • dougie: Yikes....a speed duel!
    July 03, 2025, 05:41:17 PM
  • dougie: Took a shot on #1 in the 9th at the "Spa".
    July 03, 2025, 05:40:04 PM
  • Trigger: Very nice tout Calhoun!  tmbz1
    July 03, 2025, 05:08:16 PM
  • Calhoun: Thx I'm leaning to the 5 there.  Those CD/GP full field races look the best on the page. 1/2 length from being a G3 winner.
    July 03, 2025, 03:59:35 PM
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal