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The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« on: October 12, 2024, 10:52:14 AM »

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2024, 11:11:24 AM »
While I still feel there are and will be growing pains, HISA IMO is the answer. Yes, they and it needs to adapt more, and more collaboration is needed, but this type of decisiveness is a cancer. For years the industry's organizations did nothing. Now someone else is doing something. So the industry organizations say no, let us do it. After you've proved you can't? Won't? Chose not to?

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2024, 11:58:44 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, HISA was against any drugs in a horses bloodstream. There are some drugs that are a necessary evil, Altrenogest (Regumate), Omeprazole (Gastrogard), Sucralfate, Furosemide (Lasix). These drugs are good for the horse, and the betting public. I hate betting on mares that are showing heat!

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2024, 03:06:44 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, HISA was against any drugs in a horses bloodstream. There are some drugs that are a necessary evil, Altrenogest (Regumate), Omeprazole (Gastrogard), Sucralfate, Furosemide (Lasix). These drugs are good for the horse, and the betting public. I hate betting on mares that are showing heat!

I don't think it was absolutely zero. There are many drugs that are "allowed" under their guidelines----what is regulated is how they are used, when, etc. They have an entire set of rules/regulations, schedules, etc. The same for veterinary work, injections, and so on.

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2024, 03:52:55 PM »
Allow me to let you all in on a little secret. Everything we've seen here over the past five years is all self inflicted and more than deserved. For the most part there are two sides to it. The criminals who are in control of the industry, and the majority of horsemen who play mostly by the rules and are too scared to speak out. I don't care what anyone says, it's too late. You have a dead industry that the public will never support, it only survives by subsidy and welfare, then the last nail in the coffin will be government oversight. It's actually embarrassing. And for the most part everyone in the game knew it was coming and let it all happen. It will never fully evaporate, but it's shrinking every year. There's a few states that have figured out a new business model that somewhat works, but again they also are heavily backed by the states. As for others, you're seeing reality. You all just saw another track in NJ have the plug pulled just like that. Your leadership knew for years. Most of you were in the dark. What does that tell you???
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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2024, 04:00:52 PM »
Allow me to let you all in on a little secret. Everything we've seen here over the past five years is all self inflicted and more than deserved. For the most part there are two sides to it. The criminals who are in control of the industry, and the majority of horsemen who play mostly by the rules and are too scared to speak out. I don't care what anyone says, it's too late. You have a dead industry that the public will never support, it only survives by subsidy and welfare, then the last nail in the coffin will be government oversight. It's actually embarrassing. And for the most part everyone in the game knew it was coming and let it all happen. It will never fully evaporate, but it's shrinking every year. There's a few states that have figured out a new business model that somewhat works, but again they also are heavily backed by the states. As for others, you're seeing reality. You all just saw another track in NJ have the plug pulled just like that. Your leadership knew for years. Most of you were in the dark. What does that tell you??? Good post and i agree,,,,,,,,

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2024, 05:28:44 PM »
Freehold is a shithole .

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2024, 05:36:24 PM »
Anyone ever search how many times this guy says "you guys out east"? Almost as if he's over trying to convince you all of something. Sun and Moon??? Hmmm....
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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2024, 08:59:35 PM »
The article bemoans the federal government as possibly coming in and ruining the even playing field they worked so hard to create.
Huh, chemists under every rock is an even playing field for the betting public to wager on?
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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2024, 01:44:15 AM »
Hisa or Hisa, the criminals are one step ahead.


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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2024, 01:45:54 PM »
I agree yet the major thoroughbred tracks are thriving!

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2024, 01:53:39 PM »
I don't think the Southern California thoroughbred tracks are, in spite of their handle. Their maiden special weight only goes for $54,000 which is nothing compared to other tracks which handle their kind of money, especially with the high cost of living out there. In fact, in recent years, purses for most of their stake races have been cut to make up for an overpayment in purses.

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2024, 09:00:23 AM »
Wealth of knowledge........

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Re: The current landscape of our sport and industry.....
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2024, 09:14:33 AM »
I don't think the Southern California thoroughbred tracks are, in spite of their handle. Their maiden special weight only goes for $54,000 which is nothing compared to other tracks which handle their kind of money, especially with the high cost of living out there. In fact, in recent years, purses for most of their stake races have been cut to make up for an overpayment in purses.

"only go for $54,000". What's the avg maiden race in harness?

 

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