Hoosier handle - what is holding them back?

[goblue]

What is holding Hoosier Park back from achieving better handle numbers?

Meadowlands will always be #1, but in my opinion, Hoosier should be right with Mohawk competing for #2.

Full cards, competitive racing, fantastic facilities, very good track announcer, hosting major stake events, etc.

I simply do not understand how they continue to lag behind Northfield, for example, and their half-mile racing with a 1/5 favorite in every other race.

[captain morgan]

It's a c track at best

[MOHAWK FREAK]

What is holding Hoosier Park back from achieving better handle numbers?

Meadowlands will always be #1, but in my opinion, Hoosier should be right with Mohawk competing for #2.

Full cards, competitive racing, fantastic facilities, very good track announcer, hosting major stake events, etc.

I simply do not understand how they continue to lag behind Northfield, for example, and their half-mile racing with a 1/5 favorite in every other race.

I agree with “almost” everything you say.  Hoosier actually could be in the running for the top spot BUT they do little things that are just careless.  Why do they insist on running races at the exact same time as their biggest competition? Drag a few minutes.  Get a track enthusiast announcer. This guy is horrible. If you are playing multiple tracks you have no idea the gate is rolling until it’s too late. And who gives a fuck who the top three favorites are.  I have even been playing Hoosier and got caught up handicapping the pick 4 and then I hear.  “ 2-1 on blah , blah , blah 5/2 on blah and they are off”.  Great job alerting us of post time you Baffoon

[Kirby's Ace]

I agree with “almost” everything you say.  Hoosier actually could be in the running for the top spot BUT they do little things that are just careless.  Why do they insist on running races at the exact same time as their biggest competition? Drag a few minutes.  Get a track enthusiast announcer. This guy is horrible. If you are playing multiple tracks you have no idea the gate is rolling until it’s too late. And who gives a fuck who the top three favorites are.  I have even been playing Hoosier and got caught up handicapping the pick 4 and then I hear.  “ 2-1 on blah , blah , blah 5/2 on blah and they are off”.  Great job alerting us of post time you Baffoon

What's "post time"?
 
When was the last time you have saw a race go off at the so called "Post Time"? Post Time usually means at least 3 minutes to go now days! If you get shut out it's your own damn faught

[goblue]

Hoosier has a countdown clock, similar to the Meadowlands, that is very accurate and allows you to know exactly when the race is starting

[MOHAWK FREAK]

Hoosier has a countdown clock, similar to the Meadowlands, that is very accurate and allows you to know exactly when the race is starting

I’m in deep concentration handicapping. I’m not looking at the monitor. How about. “ 1 minute to post , don’t get shut out”.

[Unclejerry]

Big difference between Cleveland area and corn field Henderson Indiana, Cleveland area has some serious gambler's, Henderson not so much and never will be. 

[Papillon]

allowing CAWs in might help

[rainman2]

What is holding Hoosier Park back from achieving better handle numbers?

Meadowlands will always be #1, but in my opinion, Hoosier should be right with Mohawk competing for #2.

Full cards, competitive racing, fantastic facilities, very good track announcer, hosting major stake events, etc.

I simply do not understand how they continue to lag behind Northfield, for example, and their half-mile racing with a 1/5 favorite in every other race.

Let me count the ways:

Poor driving colony. When Trace Tetrick is the ‘best’ driver and it gets worse from there. Not a good thing.

You don’t need a “passing lane” on a big track!

Track bias changes like the wind!

IMO average stock at best at the track. The driving colony doesn’t make it better.

[MOHAWK FREAK]

Let me count the ways:

Poor driving colony. When Trace Tetrick is the ‘best’ driver and it gets worse from there. Not a good thing.

You don’t need a “passing lane” on a big track!

Track bias changes like the wind!

   I hate to break it to you.  Hoosier stock can go anywhere and be competitive. ANYWHERE.   I have seen it time and time again. 

IMO average stock at best at the track. The driving colony doesn’t make it better.

[rainman2]

So you are telling all of us here that if we get a better trainer not necessarily a trainer that “enhances” horsepower by painkillers/other methods, we can actually improve a horse from here??

[LAW AND ORDER]

Let me count the ways:

Poor driving colony. When Trace Tetrick is the ‘best’ driver and it gets worse from there. Not a good thing.

You don’t need a “passing lane” on a big track!

Track bias changes like the wind!

IMO average stock at best at the track. The driving colony doesn’t make it better.

BEST POST EVER ON PLOP. RAINMAN GETS IT. I KNOW PLENTY OF BIG GAMBLERS AND MOST OF THEM STAY AWAY FROM HOOSIER FOR A FEW REASONS. THE BIGGEST REASON IS THE DRIVERS COLONY AND THE SECOND REASON IS ITS JUST A HILLYBILLY AMISH FILLED TRACK THAT EVERYONE IS RELATED TO EACH OTHER. ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CORNFIELD AND THE PEOPLE RUNNING SHOW ARE A JOKE AND DONT HAVE A CLUE. TAKE THE RACE SECRETARY RIGHT ON DOWN TO THE GOOFY SECURITY GUARDS WHO REPORT A FLYING INSECT IF HE LOOKS SUSPICIOUS AND YOU HAVE HOOSIER PARK. THEY ARE GETTING BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER BY OHIO RACING AND YET THEY DO NOTHING TO TRY AND KEEP UP. HOPEFULLY WITHIN 5 YEARS THEY WILL BULLDOZE IT AND THE PROPERTY CAN GO BACK TO PRODUCING GREAT CORN.  THEIR TOP FIVE TRAINERS AND DRIVERS COULDNT WIN RACES AT MONTICELLO OR FREEHOLD.   

[rainman2]

Big difference between Cleveland area and corn field Henderson Indiana, Cleveland area has some serious gambler's, Henderson not so much and never will be. 

Numbers don't lie!

[rainman2]

BEST POST EVER ON PLOP. RAINMAN GETS IT. I KNOW PLENTY OF BIG GAMBLERS AND MOST OF THEM STAY AWAY FROM HOOSIER FOR A FEW REASONS. THE BIGGEST REASON IS THE DRIVERS COLONY AND THE SECOND REASON IS ITS JUST A HILLYBILLY AMISH FILLED TRACK THAT EVERYONE IS RELATED TO EACH OTHER. ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CORNFIELD AND THE PEOPLE RUNNING SHOW ARE A JOKE AND DONT HAVE A CLUE. TAKE THE RACE SECRETARY RIGHT ON DOWN TO THE GOOFY SECURITY GUARDS WHO REPORT A FLYING INSECT IF HE LOOKS SUSPICIOUS AND YOU HAVE HOOSIER PARK. THEY ARE GETTING BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER BY OHIO RACING AND YET THEY DO NOTHING TO TRY AND KEEP UP. HOPEFULLY WITHIN 5 YEARS THEY WILL BULLDOZE IT AND THE PROPERTY CAN GO BACK TO PRODUCING GREAT CORN.  THEIR TOP FIVE TRAINERS AND DRIVERS COULDNT WIN RACES AT MONTICELLO OR FREEHOLD.

Would be interesting to see what the top 5 trainers could do at other tracks in North America.  Whether it's Monticello, Freehold, or the meadowlands, the ohio circuit including northfield as well as plainridge

[Stan durbread]

Looks too me like the top drivers and trainers do just fine in Ohio all winter. But maybe that is because the drivers there suck too. Lol