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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2024, 10:53:46 PM »
A lot of jealously on this site.  What do you care if theStable.ca is successful or not?  Fractional ownership is the way the industry is going in terms of getting new owners.  Maybe we ought to be looking at the fact a lot of owners are no longer in the business....and could it be that they didn't have a good experience with some of the trainers commenting on this site???  So he has 2 young 2year olds that he is dumping in March out of like 50+ yearlings bought last fall.  I'd say that's a great percentage.  I would think any trainer would be happy if they had those odds. If any owner is not happy all they have to do is sell their shares and move along.  That's the nature of the business.  I never got a guarantee on any horse i bought in my lifetime.  I may not like every decision Anthony makes in regards to horses but he does a heck of a job and has a lot of responsibility and some owners just don't understand when it's time to sell.

1. You are right, I could care less if he dried up and blew away. I care about the industry and he is all about 100% for Amac and 0% for owners. The only thing he cares about is lining his pockets, not the industry.
2. You make it sound like its real easy to sell shares. That's true if you want to dump them at a deep discount.
3. I might be missing it but when you say fractional ownership is the way the industry is going, define fractional ownership. If its so great how many others trainers offer a 1% ownership.
4. I keep beating this point, if Amac is as transparent as he wants you to believe and I am an investor in a horse, why am I not allowed to know who else owns parts of my horse and don't give me that privacy crap as that is what he uses to make sure 5 or 10 people don't get together and gang up on him. Do you realize that even if you own 51% of a horse you have NO say....Amac makes all decisions. Amac loves puppets and their money

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2024, 08:14:32 AM »
I can genuinely see someone wanting to own 1% of a sports franchise etc. I have never understood the appeal of owning 1% of a race horse, it does not make any sense.

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2024, 09:33:10 AM »
I have never understood the appeal of owning 1% of a race horse, it does not make any sense.

It makes perfect sense. If you're getting fleeced it's far far better to own only a miniscule portion of a horse.

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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2024, 04:22:55 PM »
It makes perfect sense. If you're getting fleeced it's far far better to own only a miniscule portion of a horse.

I own 1% of a horse and it is great.
Low risk/high reward if the horse turns out to be a SS horse.
My expectations are low. If I break even or make a few dollars, I’m happy.
If the horse fails, it’s still not a huge huge investment.
I don’t have 50-100k to buy a horse on my own, so this is a much better option. Weekly updates, videos, etc.,,,

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2024, 07:28:59 PM »
would love to know the name of the horse so we can all follow him/her during the summer

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2024, 08:41:50 PM »
would love to know the name of the horse so we can all follow him/her during the summer


your a no nothing nosey piece of fucking shit

list your horses if you want of list of other peoples horses so you can belittle them when they don't race good
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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2024, 08:49:48 PM »
Lots of bitter people on this thread...it does suck being on the outside looking in.

brownmoose13

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2024, 09:54:14 PM »

your a no nothing nosey piece of fucking shit

list your horses if you want of list of other peoples horses so you can belittle them when they don't race good

At least after your first word the spelling got better. To make it simple for you I did not ask for a list just the name of one horse. Did I go slow enough for you to understand?

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« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2024, 10:42:40 PM »
At least after your first word the spelling got better. To make it simple for you I did not ask for a list just the name of one horse. Did I go slow enough for you to understand?


ok, so list ONE of your horses

or STFU ASSHOLE

Can you read that?

Is it Brownmoose because you start your day with moose cock for breakfast everyday? 

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2024, 11:09:21 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2024, 02:02:30 AM »
I DO NOT KNOW THESE FOLKS NOR HAVE I EVER SEEN ANY OF HIS PAPERWORK BUT MY BIGGEST QUESTION WOULD BE HOW IS THIS NOT A SECURITY?  THE CLIENT OR OWNER OF THE FRACTIONAL SHARE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE ANIMAL NOR INPUT---ALLEGEDLY THERE IS A SITE SETUP TO BUY AND SELL SHARES OF THE HORSES AT WILL   I GUESS YOU OWN A SMALL PICE BUT HAVE NO REAL MANAGEMENT IN THE HORSE AND IF THE OWNERS DO NOT COMMUNICATE NOR MAKE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS I WOULD BE UNCERTAIN WHY THIS IS NOT DEEMED A SECURITY BY THE SEC.  THE IRS WOULD ALSO BE INVOLVED IF THIS IS TRUE---TRULY, I AM UNAWARE OF THESE FOLKS BUT I WOULD QUESTION THE STRUCTURE TAX WISE AND IF IN FACT THIS IS A SECURITY AS PER THE SEC.

I KNOW IN THE PAST THIS WOULD BE DEEMED A SECURITY ---IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THESE FOLKS FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET AROUND THIS---I ALSO KNOW MANY MANY OTER ENTITIES WERE SHUT DOWN BY THE SEC FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE SEC GUIDELINES.

I WOULD THINK THESE FOLKS HAVE A GREAT SECURITIES ATTORNEY---IF NOT, I WOULD HIRE ONE ASAP IF THE PARTNERS ARE GETTING A BIT UPSET---THAT IS WHEN THE SEC STEPS IN-----

IN CLOSING I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY DOCUMENTS ON THIS STRUCTURE NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE INVOLVED ---I AM SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WITHOUT THE TRUE FACTS BUT WITH KNOWLEDGE OF SECURITY INFO.

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« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2024, 09:18:09 AM »
I can genuinely see someone wanting to own 1% of a sports franchise etc. I have never understood the appeal of owning 1% of a race horse, it does not make any sense.
I own a sliver of 9 thoroughbreds --- Sense, doesn't need to make sense... Just having fun.

For a small amount I am buying into horses costing hundreds of thousands, trained by the best in the country. Getting the best care, updates in most case weekly and many times videos attached of them breezing and comments from the trainer. An opportunity to get into the paddock before the race, winner circle photo's which if you are there, can get your picture taken. Outings that are setup at tracks like Keenland and Churchill ( which I have attended ) barn visits, training farms, breeding farms.

In most  cases, I have not made my one time initial investment which covers everything (understand that in Amac's case there are training bills ) ranging from $42 and have paid as much as $205 for a three horse package.

But --- Did own in On Mage - last years KY Derby Winner. Made nice money at the cost of $50 share. Awaiting next payment from the money he is making from going to stud. 

So to me - for a small amount - little risk - and honestly little monetary reward, but having a heck of a time, I have trained, driven, and owned harness horses. Learning how things our down in the thoroughbred world has been a great experience.

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2024, 09:23:30 AM »
I own a sliver of 9 thoroughbreds --- Sense, doesn't need to make sense... Just having fun.

For a small amount I am buying into horses costing hundreds of thousands, trained by the best in the country. Getting the best care, updates in most case weekly and many times videos attached of them breezing and comments from the trainer. An opportunity to get into the paddock before the race, winner circle photo's which if you are there, can get your picture taken. Outings that are setup at tracks like Keenland and Churchill ( which I have attended ) barn visits, training farms, breeding farms.

In most  cases, I have not made my one time initial investment which covers everything (understand that in Amac's case there are training bills ) ranging from $42 and have paid as much as $205 for a three horse package.

But --- Did own in On Mage - last years KY Derby Winner. Made nice money at the cost of $50 share. Awaiting next payment from the money he is making from going to stud. 

So to me - for a small amount - little risk - and honestly little monetary reward, but having a heck of a time, I have trained, driven, and owned harness horses. Learning how things our down in the thoroughbred world has been a great experience.

same here Dink, I own a couple of shares through Myracehorse.  No big hits yet, however i did win a lottery for a trip to thw paddock at Aqueduct.


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« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2024, 09:47:58 AM »
Why do I owe anyone on here an explanation for why I want to own 1%, 2% or 5% of a standardbred ?  Why do I give a hoot who my partners are on any horse I own a piece of ?  What I do know is that anytrime I text AMAC, I get an answer in minutes.  It's not always the answer I want to hear, but I'm fine with that.  And trust me, AMAC is not making the killing the dolts on here think he is.  You boys have no idea what goes into running a 100+ horse stable spread over 5 or 6 racetracks or training centres.  Keeping books and sending monthly invoices and an elaborate website plus live videos of the babies training at least every other week.  All this stuff is labor intensive and labor isn't cheap.  Also he has to carry the expenses on any unsold portion of ANY horse he offers to the public.  Go to WestPoint Thorughbreds where they sell $1.00 lettery tickets for $1.30 (if you ask them why, they will tell you "we buy at wholseales and sell at retail").  AMAC doesn't mark-up his horses at all !!

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Re: Anthony Macdonald and the Stable 100,000 dollar disaster.
« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2024, 10:44:58 AM »
gentleman( to be clear i have no vested interest )
we have been through all of this before
 to each their own and buyer beware
everyone needs to have a interest or hobby, maybe some people on here have 1,2,3,4 different streaming services costing $10-$20 each monthly
instead of paying that perhaps some folks would rather put that money into a few shares of some race horses
if people don't like it they will stop purchasing shares and it will downsize or go away
they won a few grand circuit races in Lexington and i am sure for many owners that was a huge thrill as it should be



 

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