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If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« on: March 07, 2024, 02:05:33 PM »
I am new so nice to meet everyone . I have a question and look forward to all responses.   If you were appointed CMO of a major racetrack and was giving one chance to drive new fans and change the face of Harness Racing what would you do?  Or do you really believe the game is dead and why bother trying anything at all?

Thanks so much for your time

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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2024, 02:15:43 PM »
I am new so nice to meet everyone . I have a question and look forward to all responses.   If you were appointed CMO of a major racetrack and was giving one chance to drive new fans and change the face of Harness Racing what would you do?  Or do you really believe the game is dead and why bother trying anything at all?

Thanks so much for your time

You ask a good question thats been the quandary for a business hell bent on destroying itself from the outside in, and the inside out. If you look at the feature draws at TB tracks, such as Gulfstream, Saratoga, Churchill, Fairgrounds, etc. they all create a see and be seen atmosphere that draws people in. Most of the draw at these tracks during the various meet schedules, is as many outside the industry as those that are in.  Why you ask? Mainly because they create a higher end product conducive to a higher end social model. When I say product I am speaking not just the race card, but dining, bar areas, events, (other than the drag shows at Big M).  A case in point to a failed venue performance is exactly the Big M, quite literally outside one of the biggest population demographics on the east coast and they can't draw a packed attendance on Hambletonian day to save themselves. Monmouth Park can pull a bigger attendance. for its summer race finally. 
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2024, 03:12:32 PM »
You ask a good question thats been the quandary for a business hell bent on destroying itself from the outside in, and the inside out. If you look at the feature draws at TB tracks, such as Gulfstream, Saratoga, Churchill, Fairgrounds, etc. they all create a see and be seen atmosphere that draws people in. Most of the draw at these tracks during the various meet schedules, is as many outside the industry as those that are in.  Why you ask? Mainly because they create a higher end product conducive to a higher end social model. When I say product I am speaking not just the race card, but dining, bar areas, events, (other than the drag shows at Big M).  A case in point to a failed venue performance is exactly the Big M, quite literally outside one of the biggest population demographics on the east coast and they can't draw a packed attendance on Hambletonian day to save themselves. Monmouth Park can pull a bigger attendance. for its summer race finally.
Back at the old M1 Hambletonian days you couldn't even find a seat. jam packed.
I have seen every promotion known to man, some of them worked for a while but ultimately failed.
You can't attract people to a product that is widely known for cheating, especially for decades.
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2024, 03:21:21 PM »
Back at the old M1 Hambletonian days you couldn't even find a seat. jam packed.
I have seen every promotion known to man, some of them worked for a while but ultimately failed.
You can't attract people to a product that is widely known for cheating, especially for decades.

Please define cheating??

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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2024, 03:28:05 PM »
Who are you? ill Clinton? ngc3

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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2024, 04:18:24 PM »
Please define cheating??


C'mon Rainman, are you kidding me?

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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2024, 04:26:55 PM »

C'mon Rainman, are you kidding me?

Drug positives
-race collusion

Please elaborate.
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2024, 04:30:24 PM »
Why does he need to? You seem to be doing fine on your own. tmbz1

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2024, 04:42:30 PM »
Why does he need to? You seem to be doing fine on your own. tmbz1

I’m waiting to see how others define cheating.
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2024, 04:51:57 PM »
Drug positives
-race collusion

Please elaborate.
Thank you
HOW ABOUT CHEATING AS IN RACETRACK OFFICIALS AND TRACK MANAGEMENT? SOMETIMES ITS NOT ALWAYS THE HORSEMEN. YOU GET MY DRIFT. ITS STARTS INSIDE THE RACE OFFICE AND JUDGES BOOTH.
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2024, 05:22:51 PM »
HOW ABOUT CHEATING AS IN RACETRACK OFFICIALS AND TRACK MANAGEMENT? SOMETIMES ITS NOT ALWAYS THE HORSEMEN. YOU GET MY DRIFT. ITS STARTS INSIDE THE RACE OFFICE AND JUDGES BOOTH.

Didn’t this happen in the t-Breda with Linda Rice too??

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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2024, 06:23:50 PM »
Right? Linda Rice can't do any thing wrong.
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2024, 06:25:19 PM »
Didn’t this happen in the t-Breda with Linda Rice too??
DIDNT IT HAPPEN IN THE GSY, YONKERS RACE OFFICE AND CHICAGO TRACK OWNERS? BUT NOOOOOOOO ITS ALWAYS THE HORSEMANS FAULT.
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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2024, 06:40:44 PM »
Drug positives
-race collusion

Please elaborate.
Thank you

Go on go on, that's a start. You are getting warmer, it's a long list.

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Re: If you had one chance to .... What would you do?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2024, 07:01:19 PM »
Go on go on, that's a start. You are getting warmer, it's a long list.

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