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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2023, 06:46:24 PM »
My immediate reaction is to side with Shetler but I've heard this denial stuff before from dear friends who were guilty as sin.
And if you listen to me I've always been innocent.
So does anyone know the truth of this? Is it really a malicious fabrication?

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2023, 06:53:15 PM »
My immediate reaction is to side with Shetler but I've heard this denial stuff before from dear friends who were guilty as sin.
And if you listen to me I've always been innocent.
So does anyone know the truth of this? Is it really a malicious fabrication?

Years back, my wife taught at a public school and she had hundreds of stories about kids denying actions right in front of her.  So, yeah, people lie.

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2023, 08:05:08 PM »
right or wrong i have no idea in this instance
however i wish associations etc would be this diligent in proving and following up on all cases

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2023, 08:26:14 PM »
look park ,has hooser gone bad?

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2023, 08:34:34 PM »
With out knowing Shelter or being there it's a tough one to commit on. Iam not heartless but I know today it's the best chemist not the best trainer who wins the most races. My lawyers told me deny,deny,deny and you're not guilty until you run out of money.

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2023, 09:12:57 PM »
Anyone see the video? If i was him i would demand to get it and make it public if it shows a dose syringe 🤷‍♀️

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2023, 10:12:37 PM »
I found this quote from the article very interesting.
"EPO (All-natural blood builder to supercharge speed, strength and endurance)"

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2023, 10:20:34 PM »
I have no idea what side to trust/believe but what I do find interesting is this

Shelter explained. “All they found in their search was two empty bottles that had plunger ends on them that you could stick a needle in them, but they were not horse related. They found them in my cooler in the back of my truck and they had been there for six to eight months. I had forgotten about them when I used them in Florida during the winter.”

How damn long does a normal person carry a cooler around in the back of a truck and never open it up?  I personally don’t keep a damn cooler in my truck for 6-8 months
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2023, 10:21:07 PM »
I CALL BULLSHIT. THE DENY DENY DENY, ONLY WORKS FOR HOWARD TAYLOR. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2023, 09:30:05 AM »
Right or wrong, the commission has decided that Andy is not a credit to the industry....they will continue to haunt him.
Life is not always fair.  this is an opportunity for Mr. Shetler to choose a new career path.
Turn the page.....only Andy knows the truth...obviously the gods of Indiana harness racing have an intense hard on for the guy.

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2023, 10:01:19 AM »
Indiana is a no win state.  They will bury him and anyone he's associated with.  His best option is to get a trailer and move to Mark Ford's farm.  They let anyone in there.

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2023, 10:34:27 AM »
Indiana is a no win state.  They will bury him and anyone he's associated with.  His best option is to get a trailer and move to Mark Ford's farm.  They let anyone in there.

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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2023, 10:56:54 AM »
All the more reason that harness racing needs HISA.  I don’t know Andy very well but this is a clear cut case of them nailing a little guy to the cross and turning a blind eye to people like Tyler George and Erv Miller and people they like. Andy will never be able to beat them. Look what they did to Brandon bates for having a gun in his parked car in the parking lot. When joe Morris, Rick Moore and the commission have it in for you, that’s it. This is why I Hope HISA or we get one large racing commission that oversees the sport on a national level. One set of rules that apply across the board.
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