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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2023, 10:02:39 PM »
I thought he always advertised $2000 a month all in

That might be Canadian dollars but in US dollars a couple years ago it was 75 a day. No vet charges and believe the charge for video pre month charge that doesn't go away if the horse is kept at 3, 4, or 5. Meaning those many videos you see for 2 yr old doesn't go away for zero videos of a 4 yr old who races all the time. When the horses go to Tim Twaddle who probably charges 45 a day at best your still charged the Stable rate.

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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2023, 10:17:21 PM »
I would love to see how much .was spent on yearling and race horses and how did they bring in .He said he had a great year

This is just one sale Lexington since they post information. Remember they spend and buy a lot of horses at the Ohio Jug sale. Buy a lot at Harrisburg. Spend a lot in ONT. 
Lexington 2021 535k. Lexington 2022 962k. 2023 Lex 1.09M.
I will say the more they spend they have gotten better horses. They did sell a 100k TL filly couple years back for 600k. U can bet Amac had shares in that one. When they where spending less it was cheap junk to pad the training bills.
Amac taking R&R in Costa Rica life is probably good? At least beats his lone shot at public office in Ont.

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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2023, 11:11:42 PM »
and people couldn’t wait to buy a share and own a piece of a gold cup horse.
especially Sintra. who won it.
supply and demand bud.
People lined up madoff to, that's not a sign of success

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Re: Stable.Ca stiffs
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2023, 01:22:45 AM »
ANOTHER REASON WHY THIS COULD BE COSIDERED A SECURITY.

IF THIS WAS INVESTIGATED BY THE SEC----THIS ENTIRE MODEL COULD POSSIBLY BE DEEMED A SECURITY WHICH COULD CLOSE THE ENTITY DOWN.   

THE MODEL IS BRILLIANT BUT FLAWED.

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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2023, 01:26:40 AM »
Every stable makes good and bad buys. They aren't all profitable choices and in many instances , they're losers.  I see people often ragging on Anthony and the stable.ca.  honestly that makes you look unintelligent. Regardless of your take on profitability, the stable is one of the last positives in our industry. Anthony does a great job promoting his barn and racing in general and has single handedly gotten more people involved in this business than probably every trainer across the country. His business model is highly innovative and has even lead to other trainers trying to spin off this type of ownership.  He's as sharp as they get, especially in a business riddled with nit wits. Definitely someone worth following to learn a thing or too about running a successful operation.

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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2023, 09:14:18 AM »
Please define successful operation

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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2023, 10:38:23 AM »
He runs a "business" and his objective is to make money.  And I'm sure he is making a ton.  Sorry I didn't come up with this idea first!  Like him or not, it was a good idea for the ones at the top of the pyramid!  tmbz1

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« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2023, 11:50:54 AM »
He runs a "business" and his objective is to make money.  And I'm sure he is making a ton.  Sorry I didn't come up with this idea first!  Like him or not, it was a good idea for the ones at the top of the pyramid!  tmbz1
this is the wave of the future -- not just for these microstables, but look at any winners circle at Meadowlands... 3-4-5-6 partners....

I've been involved in mico share ownership in thoroughbreds.... Can't say I've made a lot of money -- was not expecting to - I have two shares in Mage, Derby winner, that has done very well and covered costs. Couple of graded stakes winners, another that has made some money that has cleared $480k in earnings. Have the walls in my office with win pictures from all over and been able to be in the winners cirlce.

Point is -- we complain and complain that owners are shrinking. That there are a handful of trainers with a handful of owners that control everything.    Along comes A-Mac with a very interesting business model.  He has brought in probably hundreds of new owners into the business that are in a position to buy 1% and afford it...... And yes he probably is making a bunch..... So now we complain and complain.....

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Re: Stable.Ca stiffs
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2023, 12:14:18 PM »
this is the wave of the future -- not just for these microstables, but look at any winners circle at Meadowlands... 3-4-5-6 partners....

I've been involved in mico share ownership in thoroughbreds.... Can't say I've made a lot of money -- was not expecting to - I have two shares in Mage, Derby winner, that has done very well and covered costs. Couple of graded stakes winners, another that has made some money that has cleared $480k in earnings. Have the walls in my office with win pictures from all over and been able to be in the winners cirlce.

Point is -- we complain and complain that owners are shrinking. That there are a handful of trainers with a handful of owners that control everything.    Along comes A-Mac with a very interesting business model.  He has brought in probably hundreds of new owners into the business that are in a position to buy 1% and afford it...... And yes he probably is making a bunch..... So now we complain and complain.....

Many of us understand what you are saying. Many of these 1% people probably can afford more than 1%. If this $$$ is available, can’t they buy bigger percentages and/or their own horses, and/or form their own partnerships/partnership groups?  This way you get more $$$$ invested and more people involved and maybe a few more $$$ at the betting windows too!!
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« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2023, 12:16:05 PM »
I have been told by people in the Stable.Ca that in the last 3 years only 9 people have gone on to purchase at least 10% of a horse with Amac or with someone else. I do not think anyone buying a 1%, 2%, or 3% share of a horse is "getting in the business". If it does then I am in the automotive, healthcare, oil, and computer business among others with my stocks but not really

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« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2023, 12:34:15 PM »
I have been told by people in the Stable.Ca that in the last 3 years only 9 people have gone on to purchase at least 10% of a horse with Amac or with someone else. I do not think anyone buying a 1%, 2%, or 3% share of a horse is "getting in the business". If it does then I am in the automotive, healthcare, oil, and computer business among others with my stocks but not really

I think that is why he can make it sellable with so many as 1-5% ownership especially when they went to buckets with 5 or 6 horses inside. Sold as entertainment and some access into horse racing. Where as the early days of buying babies, cheap babies the money and ROI was unacceptable, and usually never mentioned. Now he doesn't need to show as much to investors maybe a few bigger ones but the 1 percent isn't leaving.

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« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2023, 01:48:24 PM »
umm, i think you all went through all of this a year or so ago
rinse and repeat
 its a business, if people dont like it than they will not participate
its like any business model, your customers/consumers will tell you if they like what you are doing by showing up or not


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Re: Stable.Ca stiffs
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2023, 03:11:08 PM »
He has a lot of happy owners .that's all that counts

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« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2023, 04:44:30 PM »
He has a lot of happy owners .that's all that counts

Not nearly as happy as Amac ...." If the clients were not meant to be fleeced they would not be sheep"

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Re: Stable.Ca stiffs
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2023, 04:55:50 PM »
We do know this is primarily charity for a few, and a pyramid game for others, right?   


 

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