WHATS THE BIGGEST SHAM IN HARNESS RACING YOU ASK????

[Parked]

Then the solution should remain if a horse test positive its suspended, regardless of the appeal process. If a trainer becomes subject to devaluing an owners asset, then NOW there is skin in the game for a trainer to fly above board.

Agreed the racing commissions are pencil pushers waiting for retirement benny's But you make them police situations like a traffic cop. The more tickets he rights, the more revenue the states receive in fines.  The propblem is an easier fix than the old guard wants to partake.

Agree. New blood..  a new broom sweeps clean.   And get the politicians out of the commissions. 

[Stan durbread]

HERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION:

When a trainer and particular horse get a positive test result. The horse is on mandatory 30, 45, or 60 day suspension.  30 days in my opinion is enough for an owner to get pissed off enough to make an administrative decision that the trainer fly right or they will be moving the horse elsewhere. Regardless if the move is made within that allotted time period, the horse remains suspended until the time is up.  When you make ownership accountable, and provide owners recourse against trainers. the problems will begin to disapait overnight, or the industry will be faced with a new problem, a lack of trainers. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Sadly they have been doing this exact thing in Ontario for almost 10 years and 99% of the horses are with the same trainer when allowed to race again. Menary once had the same horse on suspended list twice in same year and the owners stayed with him

[Grandstand Handicapper]

The racing commission, track owners/operators, etc., can easily catch a beard in place for a suspension. NYRA did it with Rick Dutrow. Once again it falls on the governing body to enforce the rules as well as catch the cheats. Give them a chance to cheat and they will.

[Locked in with pace]

THE BIG-NAME TRAINERS GETTING A POSITIVE, THEY APPEAL IT, AND ITS SETTLED YEARS LATER WHEN THEIR RACING SEASON IS DONE. THERE SHOULD BE A REALISTIC TIME FRAME.

[The Exporter]

What ever became of the investigation into beards and hidden ownership in Delaware, a few years back. The State was calling in some trainers and asking for billing and bank records. Was that just fluff or did they find all was good and clean in the First State?

[Generation XYZ]

THE BIG-NAME TRAINERS GETTING A POSITIVE, THEY APPEAL IT, AND ITS SETTLED YEARS LATER WHEN THEIR RACING SEASON IS DONE. THERE SHOULD BE A REALISTIC TIME FRAME.

Like I said. Regardless of the Trainers appeal process, Let them have 5 years if they want. The Horse is automatically suspended for an allotted time frame, effectively degrading the bloodstock value by loss of valuable racing).  When trainers are subject to devaluing an owners assets, then and only then will the bull shit doping stop! Owners will become as responsible for hiring above board trainers. or they dont race.

[Parked]

Like I said. Regardless of the Trainers appeal process, Let them have 5 years if they want. The Horse is automatically suspended for an allotted time frame, effectively degrading the bloodstock value by loss of valuable racing).  When trainers are subject to devaluing an owners assets, then and only then will the bull shit doping stop! Owners will become as responsible for hiring above board trainers. or they dont race.

Return purse money and horse does not race as long as appeal is in effect

[pocketrocketwinner]

Why is Michael Burke listed as trainer at yonkers friday?

[HarnessFan1981]

Why is Michael Burke listed as trainer at yonkers friday?

Positive test- post race

Horse:
LATER DUDES

Pharmaceuticals:
Betamethasone (Class 4)

Additional Details:
Blood sample #915585 collected at Northfield Park on 7/9/23 from the horse Later Dudes was found to contain Betamethasone at a concentration of 18+-1 picograms per milliliter of plasma. This exceeds the Regulatory Threshold of 10 picograms per milliliter adopted by the OSRC. Second Class C violation in the last 365 days. Mr. Burke had a telephonic hearing with the judges on 11/1/23. He is hereby fined $1000 and suspended for 15 days. Later Dudes is disqualified, and as a result of the disqualification the purse is ordered to be returned ($10,000.00). The penalty will be reduced to 7 days suspension, $1000 fine and loss of purse if not appealed. O.S.R.C.-3769-18-01(B)(1),(10),(13),(15)&(16) 18-02 18-99 During his suspension Mr. Burke is denied the use and privileges of all grounds sanctioned by the OSRC. Any horses that he wants to transfer to another owner or trainer must be approved by the judges or OSRC. Mr. Burke has 48 hours to appeal this ruling.   
Fined: $ 1,000
Full suspension - 7 days:
12/15/2023 - 12/21/2023
Horse  Disqualified, Purse Redistribution

[pocketrocketwinner]

Isn't Michael the assistant trainer in the very same barn trained by Ron?

If yonkers allows this on their raving side/ imagine what they allow to be done in their slot machines. Should have their casino license revoked

[HarnessFan1981]

Isn't Michael the assistant trainer in the very same barn trained by Ron?

If yonkers allows this on their raving side/ imagine what they allow to be done in their slot machines. Should have their casino license revoked

Yup

Same thing happened last year. Michael Burke was listed trainer from Dec 1-15 when Ron was suspended. Sent 39 to the gate + 4 horses qualified. They raced at Yonkers, Dayton, Philly and Northfield.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Seems like only yonkers is allowing this. No burke of any kind Friday at Philadelphia or the Meadows on friday.

This is a really really big sham that needs to be addressed and punished.

[Generation XYZ]

Seems like only yonkers is allowing this. No burke of any kind Friday at Philadelphia or the Meadows on friday.

This is a really really big sham that needs to be addressed and punished.

I gave you guys the answers to prevent this bullshit. But NO ONE wants that to happen. So ultimately the sport kills itself from the inside out. Burke is a vial cancer to the sport, almost as bad as that gaping tumor know as Russel Williams

[Parked]

2 nd violation  and only 7 days ??  Must be nice.   

[pocketrocketwinner]

I gave you guys the answers to prevent this bullshit. But NO ONE wants that to happen. So ultimately the sport kills itself from the inside out. Burke is a vial cancer to the sport, almost as bad as that gaping tumor know as Russel Williams

Gave who the answers, posters on horseplop? Hopefully an attorney will how NY state how their racino is operating deceitfully, horsepeople and gamblers are being deceived. Get the entire gaming license revoked,  starting with the existing slots