Author Topic: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers  (Read 3261 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Harness Stats

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1260
9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« on: October 09, 2023, 04:11:34 PM »
Yonkers Tuesday Race 2 ... Dash for the Cash .. They made it a true open with Covered Bridge, Leonidas, This Is The Plan and three others.  Should be interesting at least.

seen2much

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1502
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2023, 04:51:12 PM »
They should be firing off the gate. Will there overdriving like the Jug?

Bernie Madoff

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4665
  • In the beginning, man created"god".
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2023, 05:24:38 PM »
Yonkers Tuesday Race 2 ... Dash for the Cash .. They made it a true open with Covered Bridge, Leonidas, This Is The Plan and three others.  Should be interesting at least.



 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
He who laughs last, laughs best.

rainman2

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 21554
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2023, 05:35:07 PM »
They should be firing off the gate. Will there overdriving like the Jug?
It’s only 9/16 if a mile !!  A better question is will overdriving lead to a major incident on the track??  This isn’t the sharpest driving colony in North America today!!

MIKE CAMPBELL

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1721
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2023, 06:16:28 PM »
It’s only 9/16 if a mile !!  A better question is will overdriving lead to a major incident on the track??  This isn’t the sharpest driving colony in North America today!!
The shorter distance favors the honest horsemen, as gassed horses are stronger longer but doing it on a half mile track makes post position even more of a deciding factor. I would love to see half mile dashes at M1.

rainman2

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 21554
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2023, 06:25:34 PM »
The shorter distance favors the honest horsemen, as gassed horses are stronger longer but doing it on a half mile track makes post position even more of a deciding factor. I would love to see half mile dashes at M1.

Is it worth watching a catastrophic incident on/off the racetrack as a result of this race??  Asking for a friend!!

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2023, 07:07:23 PM »
The shorter distance favors the honest horsemen, as gassed horses are stronger longer but doing it on a half mile track makes post position even more of a deciding factor. I would love to see half mile dashes at M1.
That would be fascinating. I think you'd see a 51.4

JIDGE

  • Open / FFA
  • ****
  • Posts: 327
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2023, 07:46:42 PM »
Gotta say not a big fan of the short dashes. It eliminates most of the strategy and can't be helpful in keeping a horse sound -- especially on a half. I think the mile and a quarter, or a mile and a half is a little more intriguing alternative, but I'm for the standard mile.

MIKE CAMPBELL

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1721
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2023, 08:47:50 PM »
Gotta say not a big fan of the short dashes. It eliminates most of the strategy and can't be helpful in keeping a horse sound -- especially on a half. I think the mile and a quarter, or a mile and a half is a little more intriguing alternative, but I'm for the standard mile.
I think distance lames one up. I believe shorter races would keep horses around longer. I know when I first got in the business, the old timers would tell me when a horse gets tired at the end of a mile is usually when they hurt themselves. I have no proof either way but I do know the chemicals being used today don't make a horse go faster, it just makes a horse not tire as quickly. That is why you see horses pacing last quarters in 25 seconds and not gaining a length on the leader.

onabrake

  • Open / FFA
  • ****
  • Posts: 387
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2023, 08:48:03 PM »
Yonkers ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 they still "race" there. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

PineHurstPacer

  • Open / FFA
  • ****
  • Posts: 347
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2023, 01:16:20 AM »
fun to watch I guess

not sure why an owner or trainer would risk putting a horse in here though

just not bred to race like they will be asked to

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2023, 01:19:58 AM »
I think distance lames one up. I believe shorter races would keep horses around longer. I know when I first got in the business, the old timers would tell me when a horse gets tired at the end of a mile is usually when they hurt themselves. I have no proof either way but I do know the chemicals being used today don't make a horse go faster, it just makes a horse not tire as quickly. That is why you see horses pacing last quarters in 25 seconds and not gaining a length on the leader.
Or pacing in the low part of 1.50 and not getting a check. Never thought I'd see that!

rainman2

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 21554
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2023, 04:21:33 PM »
The shorter distance favors the honest horsemen, as gassed horses are stronger longer but doing it on a half mile track makes post position even more of a deciding factor. I would love to see half mile dashes at M1.

A 9/16 mile race would be more intriguing to the horsemen ad well as the getting public!!  The next question is should it be for the ‘full purse’ since they are going 9/16 ??  Does it matter if they make events like this at Yonkers, The Meadowlands, or any other track??

Harness Racing Revolution

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2940
  • #defundharnessracing
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2023, 05:44:51 PM »
Been done. Never sticks novelty wears off fast. And each horse loses 3 starts to this one in their lifetime being torched.
If you post about me, you hate puppies.

rainman2

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 21554
Re: 9/16 mile OPEN pace at Yonkers
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2023, 06:28:25 PM »
Been done. Never sticks novelty wears off fast. And each horse loses 3 starts to this one in their lifetime being torched.

If you own them, you want to race for good money now, and you deal with the potential issues down the road if there are any!

 

shout out

Refresh History
  • Sound off !
  • Kole Hanover: Bo Camouflage
    May 08, 2025, 07:49:02 PM
  • Kole Hanover: Maybe no one noticed him on track?
    May 07, 2025, 08:53:19 PM
  • titans1127: Bo Sowers going from getting his picture taken on Monday to driving in Qualifiers this morning.
    May 07, 2025, 10:36:07 AM
  • Harness Racing Revolution: Maybe he's the new track photographer?
    May 05, 2025, 05:46:55 PM
  • titans1127: Bo Sowers in the winners circle in the 1st at Monti
    May 05, 2025, 12:46:43 PM
  • Harness Racing Revolution: So who is the real trainer at Sowers-Sowers-Rawlings???
    May 03, 2025, 11:06:33 AM
  • Harness Racing Revolution: Guess this time Jason won't be calling me to beard for who is behind all this like last time.  73cv.2
    April 28, 2025, 10:47:25 AM
  • Papillon: whoever Bartlett drives is the next Per
    April 28, 2025, 10:31:59 AM
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal