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Ray-may not be a tough guy-but he reacts like a MF when he is getting screwed. He once dragged Steve Starr -race secretary at Yonkers across his desk-because Starr screwed with the draw. Ray never got kicked out of Yonkers for that action-so I assume Ray was right to scare the shit out of Starr.
Art Unger, guys were fucking with Andy. He waited on the hill at Monti, and set it all straight. Threw them around like rag dolls, No hard feelings. I don't think Ray is or was scared of Josh, pitiful drunk.