Another Gural Employee Positive!?!

[silent one]

 
  BURKE, RONALD J CANONSBURG, PA YOB 1969
M on 9/11/2021 FINED: $500
FULL - 15 DAYS, 2/28/2022 THRU 3/14/2022
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Ron Burke was the programmed trainer of the horse DE LOS CIELOS DEO when he raced
in the 2nd race at the the Meadowlands Racetrack on September 11, 2021. Following this
race DE LOS CIELOS DEO, was required to submit a post-race blood sample for analysis.
A report from Industrial Laboratories, identified the presence of Hydroxylidocaine. At Mr.
Burkes` request, a split sample was analyzed at an approved laboratory and did confirm the
presence of Hydroxyliodcaine. A hearing was conducted on January 20, 2022 and the
Board of Judges have determined that Ron Burke is in violation of various rules and
regulations of the New Jersey Racing Commission and as a result, Mr. Burke is hereby
issued a full suspension of his New Jersey Racing Commission license for a period of
fifteen (15) days, and is also fined the sum of five hundred ($500.00) dollars. Said
suspension shall begin on February 28, 2022 and run through March 14, 2022 inclusive.

  Positive announced on 2/11. He gets to keep racing until the 28th? The Bastion of Integrity, Jeff Gural, is doing a fantastic job, isn't he?

     Sincerely, Silent One

[Parked]

“Judges have determined Mr.  Burke is in violation of various rules and regulations of the New Jersey Racing Commission “.   Sounds like maybe a package deal ?? 

[Hush Limbaugh II]

Seems like "pain killers" run pretty rampant for Mr Burke. Oxycotin, glaucine and now 3 lidocaine hot tests at Gooooffffrrrraaal llll Downs

Its not hay and oats Jeffffiiieeeeeeee 

[Horsepower]

Like everything the ARCI does (which regulates the allowable medication/withdrawal times) has got this one wrong as usual. Vet's block horses all the time with lidocaine for lameness detection. Trainers' responsibility is to bring a sound horse ready to race to the track. To that end, some horse skin products contain lidocaine as part of the treatment for skin conditions.  For all we know one of the grooms is using Aspercreme for arthritis and touched the horse. Burke is smarter than to use lidocaine to race his horses. Obviously, the withdrawal time is not correct seeing that they took the study from European Horseracing Scientific Liaison Committee instead of paying to do it themselves. What a joke.

ARCI ruling: Lidocaine 20 picograms per milliliter of total 30H- lidocaine in plasma or serum 72 hours 200 milligrams of lidocaine as its hydrochloride salt administered subcutaneously European Horseracing Scientific Liaison Committee data; Iowa State University study. Applies to total major hydroxylated metabolite (i.e., includes conjugates)

[harnessplop]

He should of gotten 120 days....

[bond]

Like everything the ARCI does (which regulates the allowable medication/withdrawal times) has got this one wrong as usual. Vet's block horses all the time with lidocaine for lameness detection. Trainers' responsibility is to bring a sound horse ready to race to the track. To that end, some horse skin products contain lidocaine as part of the treatment for skin conditions.  For all we know one of the grooms is using Aspercreme for arthritis and touched the horse. Burke is smarter than to use lidocaine to race his horses. Obviously, the withdrawal time is not correct seeing that they took the study from European Horseracing Scientific Liaison Committee instead of paying to do it themselves. What a joke.

ARCI ruling: Lidocaine 20 picograms per milliliter of total 30H- lidocaine in plasma or serum 72 hours 200 milligrams of lidocaine as its hydrochloride salt administered subcutaneously European Horseracing Scientific Liaison Committee data; Iowa State University study. Applies to total major hydroxylated metabolite (i.e., includes conjugates)

Ive Been harping about this for years. These kinds of positives should NEVER result in a trainer getting days--fines YES.
Why?
Because 1) The general public are not educated about therapeutic medications-hear about them-and immediately think horses are "doped"
             2) The real cheats-have designer drugs they use for pain or blood boosting---these need to be rooted out and remain on the front pages.They are the drugs-that define the word "doping" as they are designed to make the horse run faster than he is capable of without them.
             3) Lidocaine,Bute,Banamine,dex,robaxin etc-are everyday THERAPEUTIC medication-which at low levels do NOT and never will--make a horse go faster than he is capable of at the time of the race.
BS positives like this ruin a trainers reputation-and the integrity of racing.
Do away with suspensions for therapeutics at low levels not capable of effecting performance
Go after the PED's--perhaps only the FBI is capable of implementing this--racing Labs--are not doing it--so they go after 'soft" targets like therapeutics--to give rthe illusion they are actually "cleaning up" racing--when in actual fact--they do the reverse.
They encourage cheats to use PED's because if you are going to be suspended for using therapeutics--why not use more powerful undetectable PED's???

[Calhoun]

Ive Been harping about this for years. These kinds of positives should NEVER result in a trainer getting days--fines YES.
Why?
Because 1) The general public are not educated 
             2) The real cheats-
             3) Lidocaine,Bute,Banamine,dex,robaxin etc-are everyday THERAPEUTIC medication-which at low levels do NOT and never will--make a horse go faster than he is capable of at the time of the race.

BS positives like this ruin a trainers reputation-and the integrity of racing.
 

Please F*** Yourself.

Stacking non-PEDs is wrong, illegal and kills horses.  Look at Baffert.

Not only should trainers get suspended, owners should as well.  The horses involved as well.

You earn your living on a welfare basis and NEVER, NOT ONCE have you commented on the need to protect the gambling product.

Your "just a little pregnant" rhetoric is just too pathetic.  Even for you.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Ive Been harping about this for years. These kinds of positives should NEVER result in a trainer getting days--fines YES.
Why?
Because 1) The general public are not educated about therapeutic medications-hear about them-and immediately think horses are "doped"
             2) The real cheats-have designer drugs they use for pain or blood boosting---these need to be rooted out and remain on the front pages.They are the drugs-that define the word "doping" as they are designed to make the horse run faster than he is capable of without them.
             3) Lidocaine,Bute,Banamine,dex,robaxin etc-are everyday THERAPEUTIC medication-which at low levels do NOT and never will--make a horse go faster than he is capable of at the time of the race.
BS positives like this ruin a trainers reputation-and the integrity of racing.
Do away with suspensions for therapeutics at low levels not capable of effecting performance
Go after the PED's--perhaps only the FBI is capable of implementing this--racing Labs--are not doing it--so they go after 'soft" targets like therapeutics--to give rthe illusion they are actually "cleaning up" racing--when in actual fact--they do the reverse.
They encourage cheats to use PED's because if you are going to be suspended for using therapeutics--why not use more powerful undetectable PED's???

For years, the horse in question has had wildly erratic form. If you don't like the current rules, please leave the game and do something else. Cheating, even if you believe the rules are wrong, hurts everyone.

[horses first]

Lol, another reference did I see to a groom may be using something. How many times do we need to go down that path? Since we don't know the overage, I doubt anyone should refer to that lame excuse? The point in which someone made is trainers' responsibility to bring the horse back in NOT a lame position to race. More days should be given if you want to enter and race lame horse. Will agree with Calhoun on the T-bred side where this type of behavior usually ends to more drastic fate to the horse.

[Locked in with pace]

 curious who the replacement trainer will be by state

[MR.DALRAE]

There will be  none,,the whole barn  will get 15 days off ,,,for RAndR,,,with no training bills for the horses

[bond]

Please F*** Yourself.

Stacking non-PEDs is wrong, illegal and kills horses.  Look at Baffert.

Not only should trainers get suspended, owners should as well.  The horses involved as well.

You earn your living on a welfare basis and NEVER, NOT ONCE have you commented on the need to protect the gambling product.

Your "just a little pregnant" rhetoric is just too pathetic.  Even for you.

Last time I checked this is a forum-where people express opinions.
Now you are entitled to your opinion here in USA-and I am also.
You dont like it fair enough-debate me  and tell me where Im wrong-if I am-Ill apologize and move on.
Not  you  however Calhoon-you go straight to the vitreous troll shit.
So in response you can go f-yourself also-because you are a dumb, no nothing, egotistical imbecile .
Heres something new for you--you try and learn something before mouthing off.
FACTS---1) Burke did not get a stacking penalty-and penalties for stacking are already in place.No one in their right mind would use stacking these days-knowing how easily they can be caught and the severe penalties.
Baffert-Medina Spirit-died NOT from stacking but from a Heart Attack--which happens to 8-900 horses a year on USA tracks. Any die from stacking you Moron?? They die for all sorts of reasons--bad track, heart conditions,bleeding,leg breaks etc etc-never heard of one dying from stacking--please send me proof and Ill apologize for being so wrong.
            2) I dont make my money from racing-I happen to own a few and love horses/racing--if it all goes away tomorrow-I wont like it-but Im fine.
            3)I just happen to believe the current system-where tracks use ridiculous thresholds is flawed-and is ruining racing and integrity with it. Fix it--or do away with it altogether-like they do in other countries--nothing within 7 days--0--that is easy and leaves no excuses-no worries about thresholds-there are none.

            4) FYI-"a little bit pregnant" does not exist--so theres that.

Haters going to hate--theres plenty on this site-so I dont give a shit  about them--I have my opinion-and Im sticking with it. Not reading any sensible comments to fix things--just spew hatred--yeah thats really helpful.

PS---I love the FBI and what they are doing. Not so much racetracks and Labs.-Let me know what good they have done the last 40 years.

[slivercharm]

Is Burke still fcking that otten chick

Did he pay for her new tits?

[silent one]

  Nice to see history repeating itself at the integrity laden Pig M.

   
8    De Los Cielos Deo 8    4°/3Q   1°/2  1/   1/4  1/4    1:50.3   28.1  *1.40 Yannick Gingras Ron Burke

   Sincerely, Silent One

[pocketrocketwinner]

  Nice to see history repeating itself at the integrity laden Pig M.

   
8    De Los Cielos Deo 8    4°/3Q   1°/2  1/   1/4  1/4    1:50.3   28.1  *1.40 Yannick Gingras Ron Burke

   Sincerely, Silent One

"Theraputic drugs don't make horses run faster than they can naturally"

Nothing to see here.

-Bob Baffert
-Bond