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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2020, 10:54:08 PM »
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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2020, 07:57:31 AM »
Someone told me Lou Pena was clean, I can't remember who..
Oh wait, it was Lou Pena...

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2020, 10:54:40 AM »
Someone told me Lou Pena was clean, I can't remember who..
Oh wait, it was Lou Pena...

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2020, 02:40:06 PM »
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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2020, 03:05:03 PM »
It's true, some clean horseman are better than other clean horseman, but given any group of say, 10 totally clean trainers of varying ability that we'll say are from slightly below average, to very good, the differences in performance would still be moderate. Assuming all use good quality feed and hay, competent farriers, and good honest vets, and all have programs of 4 to 5 miles of jogging a day, with a training mile mid week, it is mathematically impossible for any one of these hypothetical trainers to improve upon any other, by more than one second, at the most.
On a totally level playing field, the "good" trainers would bat around .290, and the less talented ones would range from .220 to .250. That's what an honest racetrack leader board should look like, because devoid of drugs, it becomes all about the natural ability of the horse. The trainer's influence in a clean game would be 10-15 percent of the equation, at most.
So good trainers would roughly win at a rate that would be similar to pure random? With no consideration to classification, purchasing power, and drivers services? It's a Pareto distribution, numbers won't change much even if you eliminated all cheating.

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2020, 03:37:10 PM »
They all give alittle something XTRA when they need cash. FACT

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2020, 10:56:25 PM »
There was a grey gelding named FOLGER who was juiced a few times and won.

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2020, 11:55:21 PM »
I have a question if the driver/jockey who is employed by a trainer for first call services an there knowingly driving juiced up animals are they as guilty as the trainerís they drive for???????

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2020, 12:04:28 AM »
Paul Jessop been clean for 10 years doesnít win . Was dirtY many years ago as well as his father never lost . In Canada Yves Filion clean wins rarely only when he breeds a monster


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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2020, 06:27:49 PM »
Guess you donít know them that well...

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2020, 04:06:53 PM »
Is equipoise cheating?

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Re: Successfull trainers who donít cheat
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2020, 04:07:33 PM »
NO

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