Successfull trainers who don’t cheat

[Emperor Dapple]

While on the subject of innuendo, the shots on social media trying to tie Rene Allard into this mess were totally unnecessary. To be perfectly frank, his eight horses at Pocono were scratched because the training facility was shut down. No one could come or go. Therefore, there were many horses that couldn’t get to the track. It really bothers me the amount of negativity there is in our sport and how quickly we jump the gun and pronounce evil.........Just ask the Guru

Friend, you may have missed the memo but there is a Federal Indictment against Mr Allard.. This isn’t social media nonsense.

[Fatboy]

Ake Svanstedt

[Harness Stats]

There is a list of current successful trainers based on 2020 earnings on page 1 of this thread.
 
For anyone who truly wants to give a good response to the topic here tell us who you think are the cleanest ones from that list

[TTitans1]

No, you`re the idiot. What clean trainers are you referring to? Which clean trainers can you compare to eachother? Who do you know that`s clean and making money in this game?

[Stan durbread]

There are plenty of clean trainers in racing. Unfortunately not too many know there names because the media only hypes super high percentage guys

[Jazzman]

clean trainers all dead or out f buissness

[Here they come]

According to you there aren’t any, so no need to name any.

[Here they come]

Your mentality is if any team or individual consistently defeats another they are cheaters. Your logic titan is ridiculous. Like I said. Idiotic

[Here they come]

There’s not one trainer that anyone can name that someone will say isn’t a cheat, so naming any is a waste of time. Too many narrow minded individuals on this forum.

[TTitans1]

According to you there aren’t any, so no need to name any.

You are the fuckhead running your mouth but you can`t name one! Not one making money anyway. Fuck you, I raced horses in about 10 states for 35 years and know most of these guys. You aren`t going to tell me any different.

[Carnival People]

Rabbi just made my point. That’s the mentality of
Almost everyone on this site. If your doing well your
cheating. No one can make money in harness racing
Who’s not a criminal. I just think most people are jealous
of the ones who do and assume and accuse

This is a very complicated situation because the real hay and oats trainers fall or fell by the wayside.  Everyone likes to have a little edge, but your truly gifted horsemen are gone.  They have been replaced by monsters.  It started with the likes of Robinson and Gelrod etc.  It would take freak of nature horses for an all-natural trainer to win races to such an extent that he would win enough to attract any attention.  It's not jealousy.  It's frustration.  What if you worked all day with water and horse manure and you get yourself a nice decent lawn. But your neighbor used specially designed and dangerous chemicals for every inch of his lawn and it was a lush green gorgeous weed free lawn that everyone loved to look at.  How would you feel?   

[Here they come]

Agree carnival, not everyone does things the same way though. Doesn’t mean there a chemist or juicing. Some horseman are simply gonna be better than others.  I’m glad we’re cleaning house with these bad apples. Hope they get some more. I’m tired of these guys taking money out of my pocket. Just want a level playing field

[Curious Fan]

Speaking of Gelrod, how many bottles of cobalt was he selling while hooked up with Bryce's Brotherlaw Sam D.   Answer: 1000's and yet Bryce never once caught Gelrod passing off brown paper bag across the street from NJ training centers.  Anyway according to Jeff there were only 2 people that supplied the entire industry and the business is now officially clean.   New Jeff can eradicate the Corona Virus and save the world.  Jeff for president!

[hoosierboy]

They (we) all cheat to some extent!

Agree totally

[Freedom at Last]

Ake Svanstedt

I guess shocking your horses doesn’t count??