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Lance

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2019, 12:49:51 AM »
My buddy Dave got caught with a black box at the Jug in ‘98. Wife caught him. Man she was pissed.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2019, 12:55:55 AM »
My buddy Dave got caught with a black box at the Jug in ‘98. Wife caught him. Man she was pissed.
I am surprised it took this long for the black box joke.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2019, 12:02:49 PM »
I took Yonkers entries this Friday 22ND and I could of taken any track.

Horses racing 98
On lasix        79
SO 80.6 % OF HORSES ARE ON LASIX.

BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS ELIMINATE LASIX.







Duke  ....   right on about Laxix, although I don't think a majority are on it.

Why do you think 90% of some trainers horses are on Lasix and others have none on it.
HHMMMMMM  !!!
What a joke.

I've owned 8 horses and none of them needed Lasix.
I've seen trainers with upwards of 75% of what they have racing, on it.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2019, 12:55:39 PM »
every horse bleeds, to a certain extent, under the stress and strain of racing. some bleed more than others. some only break capillaries deep in their lungs while others break larger vessels all the way out through their nostrils and the blood comes dripping out of their nose. the more often they bleed noticeably the more likely they are to bleed again and the accumulation of blood in their lungs makes them more susceptible to lung infection. if Lasix is allowed, it is definitely a beneficial drug.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2019, 03:30:42 PM »
       North America less California now is the only place in the whole world that allows lasix. 80% bleeders is high and I doubt that number is representative of bleeders. It`s only used to mask other drugs and give you a few extra points in the blood/gas department. It would be interesting to see how many of Allard`s horses are on lasix.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2019, 03:40:20 PM »
To answer my question: Allard is racing 19 horses at Yonkers 3/22 and 3/23 and Sat at Pocono.
All 19 horses are on lasix.
The intent of this drug is NOT to help cheaters to Tube horses at will.
I think that it safe to say that 100% of Allards are on lasix and probably a few more gas trainers if you check.

LASIX NEEDS TO GO.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2019, 06:15:58 PM »
To answer my question: Allard is racing 19 horses at Yonkers 3/22 and 3/23 and Sat at Pocono.
All 19 horses are on lasix.
The intent of this drug is NOT to help cheaters to Tube horses at will.
I think that it safe to say that 100% of Allards are on lasix and probably a few more gas trainers if you check.

LASIX NEEDS TO GO.

I'm sure cash and bitcoin need to go to cause some people do illegal stuff with it.  How about holding vets accountable for letting them put a non bleeder on it.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2019, 12:40:08 AM »
I forget the name but a year ago Allard gave an interview on a horse, I can’t remember  the exact quote but said the horse was sound and didn’t bleeed a bit, yet the horse in question was on Lasix. How can you tell the public the horse doesn’t bleed yet justify racing him on lasix?

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2019, 01:00:22 AM »
every horse bleeds, to a certain extent, under the stress and strain of racing. some bleed more than others. some only break capillaries deep in their lungs while others break larger vessels all the way out through their nostrils and the blood comes dripping out of their nose. the more often they bleed noticeably the more likely they are to bleed again and the accumulation of blood in their lungs makes them more susceptible to lung infection. if Lasix is allowed, it is definitely a beneficial drug.
Good points. Let's not forget the benefit of expelling fluids. Fluids weighing as much as 30 pounds.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2019, 06:55:00 AM »
Because every horse should race on lasix!

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2019, 03:18:04 PM »
It`s not nonsense as they all bleed to some extent. Lasix will also lower blood pressure and help to calm one down. I`ve been on it myself for the last 7 years and it hasn`t hurt me and I take it every day. It can only help the horse.

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2019, 12:49:25 PM »
It`s ridiculous because every jurisdiction gives a different amount. In PA. you get up to 10 cc`s of lasix and 4 of amicar if you want, in Ontario you get max 5 cc`s NO amicar. 

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2019, 03:31:12 PM »
By the time your horse races

The 10 cc of lasix does nothing therapeutic

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Re: HOF horseman gets busted with black box.
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2019, 04:31:53 PM »
I wish Mr MacIntosh all the best.

First horse I jogged was at his place.

God Bless Bob and family.

 

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