Author Topic: What are the most important factors to signal a driver will give max effort?  (Read 4931 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Powerful Patricks Ghost

  • Guest
What would you say are important factors, either known or unknown to public, whether driver will give a maximum effort to win?

1) Race has been fixed (Unknown)
2) Big purse (Known)
3) Horse being claimed (Known and unknown)
4) Race has been fixed (Unknown)
5) Horse must leave class (known)
6) Narratives e.g. horse's last start, driver/trainer/owner record. (Known and Unknown)
7) Horse received pre-race and vet work (Unknown)
8 ) Quid pro quo e.g. driver has been promised something (other than money) for a favorable finish (unknown)

Any others that I'm missing here? Doesn't have to be something that is likely, just possible. Doesn't have to be something that could be known to the public but those examples are preferred.

Powerful Patricks Ghost

  • Guest
it doesn't matter there racing for to much money the slot money should go to the fan not the thieving motherfu--- trainer driver lets give back to the slot 95 back pay back instead giving these crooks that money its disgusting or to roads or education youll still have raceing trainers put up the purse then they can fuck each other like in the day

This isn't helpful in the last but thanks?

AGUA CALIENTE

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2453
  • Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.
I used to bet for them to get a half assed try out of them.

Jctoronto

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1581
Many years ago..and probably true today..jockeys getting 100 dollar win tickets slid into boot by trainer or owner..'riders up'

like aqua caliente, youd think that incentive thing would help the cause

caddy

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1476
  • vienerschnitzel
it doesn't matter there racing for to much money the slot money should go to the fan not the thieving motherfu--- trainer driver lets give back to the slot 95 back pay back instead giving these crooks that money its disgusting or to roads or education youll still have raceing trainers put up the purse then they can fuck each other like in the day

you're overgeneralyzing - there might be a few sneaks in the paddocks - but, there are a lot of above board trainers and honest drivers trying their best. 

Mbdreamer

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 507
When the driver announces to a few of us railbirds as he turns for the gate, “I think I can win this race,” wins at north of 10-1, and as he comes back to the winner’s circle says, “I told you so!”  This actually happened earlier this month at Ppk, and I was smart enough to have a ticket.  He shall remain anonymous!

Claimed Again

  • Guest
What would you say are important factors, either known or unknown to public, whether driver will give a maximum effort to win?

1) Race has been fixed (Unknown)


Specifically define "fixed" Does that mean they are all in on it? There are usually a few in the race that are not part of the "clique"

Not a terrible idea to tip the driver, done it. Not all the time, but if your horses is ripping it up week after week. I know with Julie Krone, the accepted procedure was a $50 Win bet.


Superfecta

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4516
When the driver's wife or girl friend is hanging near the winner's circle, bet and don't be shy.

Low Groove

  • Open / FFA
  • ****
  • Posts: 370
Steve Smith off, anyone else on

Jctoronto

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1581
Lore at Greenwood Raceway late 80s...condren used to drive a couple of greek owners.....when owner and fam and friends there in clubhouse, owner WASNT there to celebrate loss.....go hard.....
--and of course nothing when clubhouse empty

toothman

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 744
When, during the post parade, the driver points to himself and mouths the words "bet on me!"

toothman

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 744
Driver changes used to be HUUUUUUGE

Fatboy

  • Living Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 53304
WHEN HE PASSES BLACK BOX

Powerful Patricks Ghost

  • Guest
Specifically define "fixed" Does that mean they are all in on it? There are usually a few in the race that are not part of the "clique"

Not a terrible idea to tip the driver, done it. Not all the time, but if your horses is ripping it up week after week. I know with Julie Krone, the accepted procedure was a $50 Win bet.

For the sake of the thread I'm using a pretty loose definition. Classic example would be everyone is in on it. Probably the rarest and hardest to do. Most common (I'd imagine) is one major favorite going dead.  Purpose of the thread was to gather what people perceive as getting a winning steer.

So far, personally paying the driver in the form of a wager or tip seems to be the  most suggested outcome. Followed by incentives from connections (owner's family being at the track). 

Nothing that can really be publicly known so far.

slimshady

  • Guest
If the driver warms up after the post parade like they have been shot out of a gun, I believe you can expect that horse to be leaving a ton.

If a win will move a horse up in class its next start and it has no chance of winning at that class, I'm not betting it to win this week. 

If a trainer with an excellent chemist for a vet claims a horse or is given a horse that is competitive, but just doesn't have good enough closing speed to be consistently good, bet it.   When the juice kicks in, that horse is going to have its best final quarter on record.     

 

shout out

Refresh History
  • Sound off !
  • Kirbys Ace: Seek counseling ASAP!
    Today at 12:12:22 PM
  • The king of the game: This is John Talley I'm not going to be like everybody else and hide about their true name on here I know a lot of people promise you can talk shit about me behind my back on here but two pussy to ever say it to my face I know I might talk a lot of shit but best and believe every fucking time I back that shit up I went to work for Littlest Staples to the biggest stables and guess what I whip ass never got the respect I deserve this fucking racist ass business now I know I was a wild child back in the day but I stand up for myself yeah I beat a lot of y'all up but why because y'all call me nigger treat me like I'm just a piece of shit knowing the real reason all these trainers got all these good horses is when I was actually there it's funny how every fucking horse I ever touched in my life turns out to be something call it skill I call it a gift I ain't never been one to use drugs either and still with ass I went to work the last time I came in this business working less Givens funny how he was the top five trainer at Dover Downs with less than 20 fucking horses and wins number one on the percentage and number two on money last year I've run this shit when I'm in the business the only way people can get me out is by lying on me it's just like Dover Downs give me a gear suspension for calling a female that walked over to my face starting shit a whore said I lied on the test getting the license bullshit they wanted to give me the year cuz they got tired of seeing the number one sign up in the winter Circle every fucking week oh I almost forgot to tell you she punched me in my face she never got arrested she got 30 days every time I punch somebody in their mouth I got years so don't tell me this this game ain't corrupted it ain't favoritism cuz that's some bullshit and some fucking racist shit I'm not one of these Uncle Tom ass niggers I'm not kissing your ass you will respect me because I'm great I take great care of horses I never take it out on the horses but you know what I'm loving my retirement getting my mother fucking check every month so fuck this game if y'all want to be like that go fuck yourself just know I left the game on fucking top again and tell Jim King he can go fucking suck a dick cuz when I was in the game he couldn't beat me bitch
    Today at 08:47:25 AM
  • Onthefront11: On fire at Yonkers
    October 18, 2024, 04:26:12 PM
  • Onthefront11: Per
    October 18, 2024, 04:25:51 PM
  • Calhoun: God Bless you, Uncle Jerry. Welcome back.
    September 27, 2024, 11:34:09 AM
  • Unclejerry: Lets Move To Mohawk for final 3
    September 26, 2024, 09:52:40 PM
  • Unclejerry: R7 Flamboro another Superfecta $66.45
    September 26, 2024, 08:44:18 PM
  • Unclejerry: Uncle Jerry Gives out $115.10 Trifecta at Flamboro
    September 26, 2024, 08:07:12 PM
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2024, SimplePortal