Stiff job, 12th race, Harrahs, D. Miller

[COTTONWOOD FARM]

 only grandstand goofs call this a stiff, lets look at the race

condition   nw1
purse 12,000
date  april 22

mr miller did zactly what he is sposed to do with a nw1 in april, make money, teach how to race and keep in class to make more money, for owners and connections.  this race is not carded for you gambling grandstand goofs, it is there for the important people, the people in the industry.  if you feel you have to gamble on a nw1,in april, you have a problem and should seek help for your addiction

[MR.DALRAE]

I like the racing there

[seriously]

The best part about this thread is that the biggest problem with the sport is identified.

Cottonwood says "make money, teach...."

Others talk about the merry-go-round, no movement aspect of racing there.

Why do 4th and 5th place finishers get any money?  Why isn't win rewarded more?  70-20-10 is a good start.  Of course, set aside a certain amount to pay other starters, but make it a nominal fee that all other starters share evenly. 

Stop reward mediocrity and lack of effort. 

[The Rame]

Have to pay to ship.Have to pay the groom.Have to pay for lasix.  If you are only paying top 3 you won't be racing very long.

[FourStarzMark]

Have to pay to ship.Have to pay the groom.Have to pay for lasix.  If you are only paying top 3 you won't be racing very long.

You mean horses would actually have to....have to RACE TO MAKE MONEY?? No more sitting on the pylons until the 5/8ths pole? I still say we need a Pull Pole. If you are in the 3 hole and you don't pull somewhere between the quarter and the half, and you have clearance, driver is fined $500. Escalating fines for repeat offenders

[Rabbi Of Racing]

The bottom line after all this BS in this thread is,the original post by Easy Irv is correct,total stiff by Dave,end of story

[Easy Irv]

The bottom line after all this BS in this thread is,the original post by Easy Irv is correct,total stiff by Dave,end of story

Thank you. Somebody here that really knows and understands harness racing!!

[Rabbi Of Racing]

Comets Candy 

[Easy Irv]

Comets Candy 

Emerald Scar!

[Steven Mannygoat]

miller should gwt days and money on the 7 should be refunded

Oh yea didn't it pay 18 dollars 8-7?

[Red4455]

Don't ever remember David Miller not trying, sometimes even the best make mistakes
everything happens really fast on the track

[At the Eighth Pole]

Don't ever remember David Miller not trying, sometimes even the best make mistakes
everything happens really fast on the track

IMO your memory is correct as far as Ohio and the Meadows. You take a guy off the farm, put him in the big city with bills to pay, cashing large tickets is more important than "trying."  It is a shame, but with dwindling handle and purses; let the sucker at the mutuel window beware.

[Steven Mannygoat]

I still don't understand why if he was betting 7-8 exacta big he didn't reverse it some. 8-7 paid decent

[bond]

I still don't understand why if he was betting 7-8 exacta big he didn't reverse it some. 8-7 paid decent

Nw 1 and Nw 2--should be non betting races--held before the start of the program in order to protect betting public.

Yes-drivers and trainers milk the system-and rightly so--some horses have v limited ability and once out of these classes become non competitive.

[seriously]

Simple solution, change the purse distribution structure.  Why reward mediocrity?

Oh wait, it is harness racing and.....hold on, I have to pause my beta, turn down my 8 track, while I answer my rotary, and then I'll finish my thought.